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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 9:33pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
kai that Inter team wouldn't do shyte if we made that final. with Rooney in ogbono feli feli form? Bayern had a lucky progression, before the red card they were torn to shreds. after the red card & Rooney's limp, they were still on the ropes due to Nani's profligacy (i know he still had a MotM performance) & the cross bars help! Inter would not defend that deep & we wouldn't try to monopolize possession like Bayern. the game would have been more open. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:36pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
raumdeuter: You can see for yourself how English teams were disadvantaged because of internal Labour laws. So United could have 5 English, 5 other UK players, 1 non UK player as regular XI in the league, then on European nights United will be forced to source 3 more English players from reserve or Academy to play Europe. It could be worse if the regular bench is made up of players from Wales, Scotland, Ireland . |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 9:41pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
elampiro: UEFA told all teams they would only be able to use 3. Some teams had more than 3 and had to drop them to play European matches So whose business is it if English teams acquired more players than UEFA allowed to play |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 9:48pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
raumdeuter:Compare with Fergie 49 cups in Total |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 9:49pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
elampiro: Were English clubs aware that UEFA only allows 3 foreigners? Were English clubs aware that anyone not from England is a foreigner? If UEFA has a law that a keeper cannot hold backpass but in Estonian league they still allow backpass Should they complain when they get to play UEFA matches and they arent allowed to use backpasses |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 9:57pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
Odunharry: Out of those 49 just 2 are champions league. Isnt this more like a local champion type of deal 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:57pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
raumdeuter: The law that three foreign players had to play, did it start in 1994/1995 season as you try to make us believe? I want to believe the law was already effective, but it always favored other leagues which had a similar law with Eufa. But English league couldn't make a similar laws because of the common ground in UK as a whole. So it was hard bringing quality players from outside UK due to the British laws which favored their people but hostile to foreigners particularly non Europeans. What am I saying. Teams from other leagues didn't have to reshuffle their team when they play in Europe. But English team will have so much changes to make because many first team players wouldn't be eligible due to difference in laws. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 10:01pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
elampiro: Where did I make you believe anything started in 1995? can you show me? The law has always been from the early 90s which was why Milan had only 3 foreigners in the 1991 team yet English teams are complaining they did not let them use more than 3 when no one was using more than 3 |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:04pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
raumdeuter: I read that the laws were not there in the 70s. The UK already had a system before Eufa brought their laws. The government of the entire UK economy was more important than football. It's just like having a free trade and free movement in West Africa. It's like saying you as a club cannot discriminate against players from Wales, Ireland and Scotland. And that's Queen's law. So your hands are tied. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 10:05pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:11pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
raumdeuter: You said they announced it when 1995 season was about to start. Anyway, English team were simply saying, their govt law didn't restrict players/workers from anywhere in UK because of common Labour law (perhaps). Their FA probably were unable to implement the Eufa restriction because of a government law. So the clubs were torn in the fight between their govt and Eufa. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 10:13pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
raumdeuter:oh lawd....Dayo how many are European cups |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by tess1(m): 10:18pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
raumdeuter: You have just said what i had been saying that it is only with Barca team that this can happen time and time again. Pep winning it with Barca doesn't make it special because Enrique has done the same thing from no where. Are you even following my responses at all? You are making me repeat myself. I've said this several times. I'm done with this. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dongorgon5(m): 10:21pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
SailorXY:That Inter team will beat any team, I repeat any team that year. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by tess1(m): 10:23pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
ollah1: You now see that your earlier lies have been exposed. Don't come here and be spewing lies. There's no need arguing with you about Local Champion because you don't even know the meaning. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 10:33pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
tess1: Aside from Pep which other rookie coach has won with barcelona |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by pelvicky(m): 10:46pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
tess1:u guys need to stop this line...anybody can win trophy with Barcelona..bla bla. it's becoming old so...which club shd you win it with to make it special or barca dey play with 12men |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:02pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
David de Gea has revealed that capturing the Premier League title in the 12/13 season is still the greatest moment of his Manchester United career. In what turned out to be Sir Alex' last season as Manchester United boss, United won the league in dominant fashion and De Gea received a winners’ medal for his efforts in guarding their goal. When asked to identify the greatest moment of his Manchester United career, De Gea told the club’s official website: “When we won the league – that was a really special moment. The greatest thing about Man Utd is the clubs history, the greats that have represented this team and the fans are incredible too." De Gea also identified a save he made in the 2011/12 season as his best to date. He pulled off a stunning save against Chelsea at Stamford Bridge in a 3-3 draw. “The one from Juan Mata against Chelsea – the save from the free-kick in February 2012.” |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 11:14pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
elampiro: Can you quote where I said this? Anyway, English team were simply saying, their govt law didn't restrict players/workers from anywhere in UK because of common Labour law (perhaps). Their FA probably were unable to implement the Eufa restriction because of a government law. So the clubs were torn in the fight between their govt and Eufa. UEFA laws are still what everyone follows in football, If locally you choose any yeye laws then its not an excuse when you fail |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 11:14pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
Odunharry: 2 are Champions leagues |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 11:20pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
raumdeuter:Chaii.. see post shifting |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 11:24pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
Odunharry: Post shifting from what to what |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 11:27pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
raumdeuter:lol.. I asked how many are European cups you are telling me about UCL |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 11:33pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
Odunharry: I am not concerned about fake European cups my focus from time has always been on UCL |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 11:53pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
Dongorgon5:we will never know ![]() |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 7:26am On Dec 02, 2015 |
tess1: He was a local champion. 4 finals, 7 semis and won the ucl just twice. He was a great local champion. He won domestic titles no doubt but what stopped hik from repeating same feat in europe. Some people have also agreed tothe b fact that it was really poor for a manager that was in control of a team for 26 years to win just two ucl but here you are arguing pointlessly. Fergie was a local champion. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by JayKayMaybachz(m): 7:52am On Dec 02, 2015 |
ollah1:To argue with u t is like forcing a mad man to take a snap shot |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:57am On Dec 02, 2015 |
raumdeuter: Those Eufa laws would be hard to implement in UK because of the nature of the territory which had been before football came into the world. One fact is that only English teams had to shuffle their first team when they went to play in Europe. And it was a big problem bringing none UK citizens to further compound the problem. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:13am On Dec 02, 2015 |
ollah1: 25 years. Remove 5 years ban. Remaining 20 years. Remove those years English teams had to reshuffle their team when they went to Europe. We are looking at minimum of 7 years here because even after the restriction was lifted in 1995, the clubs couldn't have changed their teams in just a year. Remaining 13 years for SAF to really compete in Europe. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:23am On Dec 02, 2015 |
Raumdeuter, you are talking like you don't know how powerful the law is. (1) Law ensured there was no discrimination against workers or restriction in number of workers of UK citizens within the territory. (2) European court of Justice through the Bosman ruling ensured discrimination against workers of members States, restrictions in the the number of hires of citizens of members States were prohibited/removed. In this case football clubs were mandated to allow players the choice to walk away once their transfer was over. Secondly, players of European citizens could move from one club to another in numbers without any restrictions in number of players that can be employed by a club. So the almighty Eufa bowed to court ruling, and you think English clubs/FA should have disobeyed the laws of their land? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 8:52am On Dec 02, 2015 |
JayKayMaybachz: It's not matter of argument. Mou even said it point blank. " You can teach me anything but not winning one ucl in 22 years" |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 9:04am On Dec 02, 2015 |
ollah1:if you're asked to provide the source now you'll disappear like fart. |
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