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Re: Why We Attacked Zakzaky, Other Shiite Members – Nigerian Army by FuckTheMod: 8:45am On Dec 14, 2015
trigar12:
I don't know why people say they are peaceful. How can you be a peaceful organization when you carry (unlicenced) gun about.
According to what I ve read so far, they threaten people and they ve been going Scot free under the 16years misrule of PDP. Can this happen in the western countries ? No, they will be wiped out with immediate effect.

It's better to be save, than to be sorry

#mycents


Did the army even accuse them of carrying any weapons?.?


How many casualties were recorded on the army sides?

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Re: Why We Attacked Zakzaky, Other Shiite Members – Nigerian Army by maasoap(m): 8:47am On Dec 14, 2015
slyzy:
Why should they block public roads?
We have seen how travellers were always made to spend 3 to 5 days on Lagos/Ibadan expressway by Redeem due to road block, how many of the their members had been killed?
My advice is that the Nigeria Army shouldn't create another Boko Haram because you can't suppress these people by using violence, you will only succeeded in radicalising them. What happened to monitoring including air surveillance?
Re: Why We Attacked Zakzaky, Other Shiite Members – Nigerian Army by preetyb(f): 8:47am On Dec 14, 2015
Although I am a christian but still I don't support this rubbish. How can u kill people bcus they blocked roads? Even if it is wrong to do so, there should be mercy at some point. What happen to the use of tear gas? .

I think we need to apply the ADR methods in cases like this unless the people are armed.

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Re: Why We Attacked Zakzaky, Other Shiite Members – Nigerian Army by HaneefahRN(f): 8:49am On Dec 14, 2015
The Govt really needs to do something abt these trigger happy soldiers. When did civilians become toys they can use in practising their shooting skills? Instead of them to go and face BH they are busy opening fire on unarmed civilians. I pray they don't create another BH from this attack
Re: Why We Attacked Zakzaky, Other Shiite Members – Nigerian Army by maasoap(m): 8:49am On Dec 14, 2015
Trunaijian:
Do you think the Nigerian Army would attack and shoot unarmed people without just cause? Under a democracy with the whole world watching? There is more to this. Lets ask ourselves why the group carry arms, why they block public roads built by tac payers money? Zakzakky's so called Shiite group has no right to prevent people from going about their lawful business, they consider theirselves superior to other Muslims on what grounds? They were very fast to make an official statement in order to mislead the public and gain sympathy. We cant be fooled, they are the kings that preach terrorism using religion as a platform. Wipe them all!
Cut the crap. Na today e don start? They did the same thing last year, abi u don forget. NA killing innocent people since 1800
Re: Why We Attacked Zakzaky, Other Shiite Members – Nigerian Army by Zaikon(m): 8:50am On Dec 14, 2015
tarano:
It is quite unfortunate that things have to degenerate to this level.

Again the Shiite, the Islamic Movement in Nigeria are not harmless as we all think. It is a religious and political organization with the aim of having an islamic republic like in Iran. The followers are always harmed with AK 47 as the move along with the procession to Husainiyya Baqiyatullah, Zaria obstructting traffic on Highways.

There are intelligence report connecting this group's to Boko Haram and other violent Islamic groups in Africa and the middle east... I.e Hezbollah

Sooner or later this was going to happen. The Nigeria army has been keeping a watchful eye on this group.
Albany
Re: Why We Attacked Zakzaky, Other Shiite Members – Nigerian Army by Trunaijian: 8:55am On Dec 14, 2015
maasoap:
Cut the crap. Na today e don start? They did the same thing last year, abi u don for. orget. NA killing innocent people since 1800
ok. I guess I'd rather be protected by BH.
Re: Why We Attacked Zakzaky, Other Shiite Members – Nigerian Army by jonnieoneng: 8:57am On Dec 14, 2015
nedu2000:
Well,though wrong but since the army could shoot IPOB supporters in the east,it shows they r not biased.
Little consolation though.RIP to the dead and a panel of enquiry set up for both set of deaths (east and northern nigeria)
There is a saying never dare a man carrying a gun.The dead in all both scenerio were either insensitive or plainly stupid.Only a fool will block the convoy of the COAS while the Army is fighting against insurgents.Also only fool will demonstrate in agitation for a cause that madr Nigeria to fight a war that killed 30000 sodiers in front of the soldiers who will be called upon to fight,so the motive is to kill then be4 they actually start a war
Re: Why We Attacked Zakzaky, Other Shiite Members – Nigerian Army by bigerboy200: 8:58am On Dec 14, 2015
ewigmee:
That's why you kill them? There are owanbes on our roads every weekend. Catholics and other Christians go on procession, or is shia procession different. Every life is precious and mustn't be wasted.
Do catholics and other Christians u mentioned go on procession with Guns and knives?? Such that they could even take on d Army for about 8 hrs? Let's b objective...That sect is anything but peaceful..i stay in Funtua,close to Zaria...so I knw what I am saying...

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Re: Why We Attacked Zakzaky, Other Shiite Members – Nigerian Army by maasoap(m): 8:59am On Dec 14, 2015
preetyb:
Although I am a christian but still I don't support this rubbish. How can u kill people bcus they blocked roads? Even if it is wrong to do so, there should be mercy at some point. What happen to the use of tear gas? .

I think we need to apply the ADR methods in cases like this unless the people are armed.
It wasn't even the road block in real sense of it. These people were moving, they were not stationary. What that meant was slow traffic. They didn't stay in one place, why would they block the road when they were actually going from one end of town to another.
And the human rights abuse by the Nigeria Army continues.
Re: Why We Attacked Zakzaky, Other Shiite Members – Nigerian Army by maasoap(m): 9:03am On Dec 14, 2015
bigerboy200:

Do catholics and other Christians u mentioned go on procession with Guns and knives?? Such that they could even take on d Army for about 8 hrs? Let's b objective...That sect is anything but peaceful..i stay in Funtua,close to Zaria...so I knw what I am saying...
How many soldiers died? How many guns recovered? That's to show that NA don mumu you.
Re: Why We Attacked Zakzaky, Other Shiite Members – Nigerian Army by SKINNYTIGER(m): 9:03am On Dec 14, 2015
Who do we believe now. ..? Everyone with their own side of the story. . Obviously one party must be lying sha... But who is the lying party...
God help Nigeria

there is always 3 side of the story.2 from both sides and the truth
Re: Why We Attacked Zakzaky, Other Shiite Members – Nigerian Army by callmenow: 9:04am On Dec 14, 2015
That is the reason why the western world ganged up to stop selling weapons to Nigeria. After obasanjo Odi massacre, the USA and European Union stopped even light arms sale to Nigeria. Even Russia refused to sell to Nigeria. Infact, no arms should be sold to any Nigeria government. Our army are trigger happy, excitable and kills indiscriminately. No probe are ever instituted after every killing. This has also become a weekly affair for Nigeria army. Buhari should issue a state for shooting two weeks of the eboes and the latest one. Sanity must prevail.
Re: Why We Attacked Zakzaky, Other Shiite Members – Nigerian Army by senator2k9(m): 9:06am On Dec 14, 2015
tintingz:
Useless set of soldiers, so if these protesters were to be students is this how they will kill them?

What happen to crisis crontrol, like the tear gas or rubber bullets?

Now because these people are Muslims you "militias" decide to kill unarmed people.

If they start retaliating, throwing bombs and causing mayhem Una soldiers go start running up and down, to save chibok girls we no see good result.
students are so INTELLIGENT that they will never block the chief of army staff from passing.
Re: Why We Attacked Zakzaky, Other Shiite Members – Nigerian Army by jonnieoneng: 9:07am On Dec 14, 2015
maasoap:
We have seen how travellers were always made to spend 3 to 5 days on Lagos/Ibadan expressway by Redeem due to road block, how many of the their members had been killed?
My advice is that the Nigeria Army shouldn't create another Boko Haram because you can't suppress these people by using violence, you will only succeeded in radicalising them. What happened to monitoring including air surveillance?
Don't try to create a religious dimension to this.No one has ever spent 3-5 days because of RCCG people are too smart for that,pls no christian group will carry guns and block the convoy of an ordinary sergeant not to talk of a Lt General
Re: Why We Attacked Zakzaky, Other Shiite Members – Nigerian Army by jonnieoneng: 9:10am On Dec 14, 2015
callmenow:
That is the reason why the western world ganged up to stop selling weapons to Nigeria. After obasanjo Odi massacre, the USA and European Union stopped even light arms sale to Nigeria. Even Russia refused to sell to Nigeria. Infact, no arms should be sold to any Nigeria government. Our army are trigger happy, excitable and kills indiscriminately. No probe are ever instituted after every killing. This has also become a weekly affair for Nigeria army. Buhari should issue a state for shooting two weeks of the eboes and the latest one. Sanity must prevail.
Re: Why We Attacked Zakzaky, Other Shiite Members – Nigerian Army by jonnieoneng: 9:16am On Dec 14, 2015
callmenow:
That is the reason why the western world ganged up to stop selling weapons to Nigeria. After obasanjo Odi massacre, the USA and European Union stopped even light arms sale to Nigeria. Even Russia refused to sell to Nigeria. Infact, no arms should be sold to any Nigeria government. Our army are trigger happy, excitable and kills indiscriminately. No probe are ever instituted after every killing. This has also become a weekly affair for Nigeria army. Buhari should issue a state for shooting two weeks of the eboes and the latest one. Sanity must prevail.
You don't seem to get what is happening... The west has their agenda for Nigeria and I hope u didn't forget the CIA report that says Nigeria will disintegrate by 2013.They simply want to weaken the military to facilitate the disintegration but God is a Nigerian
Re: Why We Attacked Zakzaky, Other Shiite Members – Nigerian Army by femu(m): 9:17am On Dec 14, 2015
senator2k9:
students are so INTELLIGENT that they will never block the chief of army staff from passing.


can u justify this in a law court/international forum or to your children.

If u were a teacher is this what you would be proud of impacting?
Re: Why We Attacked Zakzaky, Other Shiite Members – Nigerian Army by macaranta(m): 9:21am On Dec 14, 2015
Blocking roads now?.not assassination attempt again?smh
Re: Why We Attacked Zakzaky, Other Shiite Members – Nigerian Army by yussuffer7881: 9:24am On Dec 14, 2015
Some people are very useless in this case because if you was the one involve in such a way you are totally blocked from that road or was delayed to some hours the next thing is Govts are not doing enough or is because Buhari is a muslim and remember this is how Boko Haram started slowly by given them chance they became blood sucker in this country or is there any part in our Holy Books that make provision that you should make yourself happy and make some suffer? The road should be free for all user and not frustrating others please be wise enough.

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Re: Why We Attacked Zakzaky, Other Shiite Members – Nigerian Army by jonnieoneng: 9:30am On Dec 14, 2015
maasoap:
How many soldiers died? How many guns recovered? That's to show that NA don mumu you.
Infact u are the one mumued by religious sentiment.If you mallam gives a fatwah to kill u will do so without thinking.I pity those killed,but next time other people will clear the road when an army chief is passing and noy foolishly block the road
Re: Why We Attacked Zakzaky, Other Shiite Members – Nigerian Army by donj84: 9:32am On Dec 14, 2015
dayo23:
The Nigerian Army on Saturday stated its reason for attacking members of the Islamic Movement of Nigeria.
The Army had on Saturday said the group blocked the road and attempted to kill the Chief of Army Staff, Tukur Buratai, in Kaduna State.
In a statement on Sunday by its spokesperson, Sani Usman, the Army described the incident as ‘most unfortunate’ but blamed the sect for blocking roads meant for the public.
“Yesterday’s incident involving clashes between detachments of the Nigerian Army, accompanying the Chief of Army Staff Lieutenant General TY Buratai and followers of Sheikh Ibrahim El Zak-Zaky, suspected to be members of the Shiite Sect in Zaria, leading to loss of lives as a result of the Shiite group members’ blocking roads and not allowing other passers-by to go about their lawful businesses and activities, was most unfortunate,” Mr. Usman, a Colonel, said.
“The Nigerian Constitution guarantees the rights of any group of persons and Sheikh El Zak Zaky’s followers to hold a peaceful march or procession unhindered, but it also guarantees other people’s rights of way on public highways. It is important to note that over the years this group has subjected ordinary citizens using public roads to untold hardship, delays, threats and disruption simply because they insist on using public space irrespective of inconvenience and hardship on other law abiding citizens and motorists.
This cannot be tolerated and must stop!
“As soon as order is restored to the situation in Zaria city and its environs, the police will conduct an enquiry and the public will be informed.
“In the meantime, the public is advised to go about their lawful business and report any suspicious persons or incidents to the police,” the Nigerian Army said.
Mr. Usman did not give details of the various attacks or whether Mr. Zakzaky had been arrested or not.
The Islamic Movement has said its members were unarmed and that soldiers attacked its members in three different parts of Kaduna including Mr. Zakzaky’s home.
The Shiite group said the son and wife of Mr. Zakzaky were among ‘hundreds’ of its members killed by the soldiers.



http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/195138-why-we-attacked-zakzaky-other-shiite-members-nigerian-army.html




For the record, am not supporting anybody, am a free thinker..Now another addition to the list of springing revenge groups in nigeria:
1) Boko haram: it didn't excalate to what it is now when the leader Yusuf was alive..he was able to control them not to attack innocent citizens..until they killed him,they assuming that cutting the head will only weaken the body and they were very wrong... the second in command from Niger republic brought is own idea of revenge and the followers followed suit to their master..we all know how pple have died in the hand of boko haram..this is what they wud have adverted by giving a fair trial to Yusuf or better still play the game of prison break and him dieing in action
2) Biafra : soldiers opening fire on protesters..so is the Nigeria govt thinking they wud just lie low like dat esp wen they are side by side with the militants..even the militant you pple kept busy by guarding those pipelines and fixing them in various positions, I heard that they are planning to rip them off those duties..
3)Shiite muslims: killing pple dat were not with armed..pls wats the use of rubber bullets or shocking batons..now you have killed his wife and child/children..and arrested him, when are we going to learn that in nigeria that removing the head of a person dosnt stop the body from still committing worse havoc..
These are the reasons why I decided I won't go for NDA short service again because the military is obey the last command and me, der are commands you will give me that I won't follow..so before they take me as a rebel, I shud just peacefully live my civilian life..God help Nigeria
Re: Why We Attacked Zakzaky, Other Shiite Members – Nigerian Army by Gee15: 9:37am On Dec 14, 2015
OZAOEKPE:

SORRY SHIITES, SUNNI WAN KILL UNA FINISH. GO AND BEG IRAN YO HELP YOU grin


People made comments about you but I never knew you don't think before typing ,Iran to help what do you mean ,you need to be locked up for making such statement.
Re: Why We Attacked Zakzaky, Other Shiite Members – Nigerian Army by jonnieoneng: 9:38am On Dec 14, 2015
femu:



can u justify this in a law court/international forum or to your children.

If u were a teacher is this what you would be proud of impacting?
Since u have introduced the law,I want to ask when it became lawful for a group to block the highway.Yes,I will gladly teach my students to respect uniform men as this will keep them alive
Re: Why We Attacked Zakzaky, Other Shiite Members – Nigerian Army by Gee15: 9:45am On Dec 14, 2015
donj84:


For the record, am not supporting anybody, am a free thinker..Now another addition to the list of springing revenge groups in nigeria:
1) Boko haram: it didn't excalate to what it is now when the leader Yusuf was alive..he was able to control them not to attack innocent citizens..until they killed him,they assuming that cutting the head will only weaken the body and they were very wrong... the second in command from Niger republic brought is own idea of revenge and the followers followed suit to their master..we all know how pple have died in the hand of boko haram..this is what they wud have adverted by giving a fair trial to Yusuf or better still play the game of prison break and him dieing in action
2) Biafra : soldiers opening fire on protesters..so is the Nigeria govt thinking they wud just lie low like dat esp wen they are side by side with the militants..even the militant you pple kept busy by guarding those pipelines and fixing them in various positions, I heard that they are planning to rip them off those duties..
3)Shiite muslims: killing pple dat were not with armed..pls wats the use of rubber bullets or shocking batons..now you have killed his wife and child/children..and arrested him, when are we going to learn that in nigeria that removing the head of a person dosnt stop the body from still committing worse havoc..
These are the reasons why I decided I won't go for NDA short service again because the military is obey the last command and me, der are commands you will give me that I won't follow..so before they take me as a rebel, I shud just peacefully live my civilian life..God help Nigeria




Did you do anything relating to security,pls read about ISPS and know that we have different security levels and need to know your area security level so you know what you should do or not to do,from what he said peaceful protest would have averted this not road block,am not in support of anyone just giving you points.
Re: Why We Attacked Zakzaky, Other Shiite Members – Nigerian Army by Pavarottii(m): 9:48am On Dec 14, 2015
Reski:
When will Nigerian security agencies ever learn. This is thesame high handed tactics that gave birth to bokoharam.
It's time for president buhari to act and bring an end to this unwanted bad publicity to his administration.
Pmb should order an inquiry into this matter to unravel the validity of the alleged human right's abuses as claimed by shites and appropriate measures should be taken to punish culpable army commander's.
If sheik zakzy and his group where also found to have broken the law at any point in time during this debacle the law should be allowed to take it's course. Nigeria is a sovereign nation and as such no individual or group is bigger than her.
I get ur plea. But people are forgetting that buhari is a core fulani, not just a northerner. There is also differences in the north. And to the best of my knowledge, he is not a shitte. Rather he is a sunni. So if we are waiting for buhari to release a press statement on the matter. That will be slim. Or has buhari ever released a statement or IPOB, BH, ND Exmilitant, Fulani herdsmen, OPC. He has never; to me I see him as a biased and tribalistic. And that's the truth. Cos his body lang. Says so....

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Re: Why We Attacked Zakzaky, Other Shiite Members – Nigerian Army by jaybee(f): 9:54am On Dec 14, 2015
tarano:
It is quite unfortunate that things have to degenerate to this level.

Again the Shiite, the Islamic Movement in Nigeria are not harmless as we all think. It is a religious and political organization with the aim of having an islamic republic like in Iran. The followers are always harmed with AK 47 as the move along with the procession to Husainiyya Baqiyatullah, Zaria obstructting traffic on Highways.

There are intelligence report connecting this group's to Boko Haram and other violent Islamic groups in Africa and the middle east... I.e Hezbollah,


Sooner or later this was going to happen. The Nigeria army has been keeping a watchful eye on this group.

The bolded, I can testify; it's very true. But the italicized I can't say. I know El Zak-zaky has been overtly vocal against boko haram and it's jihad in northern Nigeria.

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Re: Why We Attacked Zakzaky, Other Shiite Members – Nigerian Army by petitejolie(f): 9:59am On Dec 14, 2015
If u believe dis guys were unarmed den u can believe many cock and bull story in dis world. Don't sit where u are and start feeling lyk the son of God with u pitiful writings. If not DAT dis country is a lawless one, dis guys shud av bin put in dier place longtime a go.its good dey nip dis in d bud. But I still don't like how dey went about it.
Re: Why We Attacked Zakzaky, Other Shiite Members – Nigerian Army by Wandeabbas: 10:01am On Dec 14, 2015
Oh God please not these people again. We already have the menace of Boko haram to deal with.
Re: Why We Attacked Zakzaky, Other Shiite Members – Nigerian Army by Austin4lif: 10:02am On Dec 14, 2015
trigar12:
I don't know why people say they are peaceful. How can you be a peaceful organization when you carry (unlicenced) gun about.
According to what I ve read so far, they threaten people and they ve been going Scot free under the 16years misrule of PDP. Can this happen in the western countries ? No, they will be wiped out with immediate effect.

It's better to be save, than to be sorry

#mycents
PDP should also be blamed for Islam
Re: Why We Attacked Zakzaky, Other Shiite Members – Nigerian Army by tantan: 10:05am On Dec 14, 2015
Iam a muslim but i dont know why this sect prefer to do thier religious activity on the highways, and during that they will obstruct people from passing thru that way, why cant u go to ur mosque or rent a public place to do it. Most it be on the highway.
Re: Why We Attacked Zakzaky, Other Shiite Members – Nigerian Army by bigerboy200: 10:23am On Dec 14, 2015
maasoap:
How many soldiers died? How many guns recovered? That's to show that NA don mumu you.
So who were battling the Nigerian army for almost 8hours? The sporadic gunshots we were hearing,was coming from where

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