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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 11:49pm On Jan 12, 2016
ElFenomeno1:
RIP United.
Enjoy your wine and minced goat angry
Goodnight
Why you dey go sleep? Are you bored too like LvG?
Come & collect olosho if you want

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by tess1(m): 11:50pm On Jan 12, 2016
AdeLaNa1:
10 points out of a possible 33!! lipsrsealed lipsrsealed

Yes, go and check his stats this season. He`s adding nothing to the the team this season. It`s like he`s been one of the problems we have in the team. Teams now know how to deal with his heading threat in the box. As a matter of fact, we`ve only won one game with him in the starting line up in the EPL this season.
I`ll suggest we sell him and go and buy Wijnaldum.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by A40(m): 11:50pm On Jan 12, 2016
SIRcumalot:
Happy birthday na three goals we go score today.
Chei. You called it

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by tess1(m): 11:55pm On Jan 12, 2016
elampiro:


He was the center defender pair with Smalling for set plays against us and crosses. Without him, Smalling will be over labored and we would concede more. That's the only thing I saw him do.

But those who said Herrera should have stayed missed it. Herrera was poor most part in the second half. He was deservedly pulled out.

What about other games he has played for us? Or is it that if we don`t have him in our team, we wouldn`t be able to defend aerial threat?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by airmark(m): 11:57pm On Jan 12, 2016
adeyemi2015:

Drink less pls! The match was played at St James Park!



Rooney tried, Herrera also had a nice game! Fellaini played shit all through, Martial flopped because he was played outta position, Lingard was easily dispossessed anytime he's on the Ball, and missed a sitter..... in summary: LVG needs to be replaced asap!

chrisley024:
The game wasn't played at OT this man.

That Mike Dean is a confused ref though.

Dont mind me i was disappointed in newcastle tonight. I was expecting man utd to drop all 3 points and meet us down the ladder in no time.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 11:59pm On Jan 12, 2016
SailorXY:
from comments on United blogs, it seem to be. I hope to catch the replay.

The thing is that any complains you hear till the end of the season is just a cumulative assessment, especially when the three points is not copped. Them don play rubbish for far too long.

For a strange reason I was pleased with van gaal today and felt sorry for him at the same time, his only mistake was leaving fellaini to continue

It was a really good game, very entertaining
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:00am On Jan 13, 2016

We should have long sealed the game. Two clear chances and some half chances. Smalling had a totally off day.

Our defending is horrible. From the midfield to defence, we don't do well to frustrate the opposition from finding spaces to us. We have set of tough matches coming up and I wouldn't like Blind to be the one pairing Smalling. But the is the situation we find ourselves because even if Jones and Rojo become fit today, they wouldn't be at their best.

We also need Valencia to return to free Young for the right wing.

Martial will need to build on his long distance speed. He has great acceleration over a shirt distance but cannot run with great speed over a long distance.

After Fellaini picked a yellow, Mark Dean ensured he didn't award any free kick in favour of Fellaini even when he was fouled. That was frustrating.

Memphis has to be thought how to tackle and defend a ball. He offers no protection to his full back. When he appears to mark, he ends up even confusing his full back.

Lingard and Fellaini should have sealed it. Fellaini nodded the ball to the goalkeeper even though the goal was wide open before him. He keeps stamping the goalkeeper.

We played one of our best games without dominating possession. Van Gaal should learn from that. Sometimes too I ask why our midfielders cannot travel with the ball. When Smalling overlaps, he takes the ball past players with ease into final third. But our midfielders cannot do that.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:05am On Jan 13, 2016
tess1:


What about other games he has played for us? Or is it that if we don`t have him in our team, we wouldn`t be able to defend aerial threat?

The problem is we had only one defender who could defend aerial threat. We should have at least three. The two centre backs and one full back. It was always hard scoring against us from crossing when we had Brown (RB) and Rio+Vidic.

We need to find solution to Blind. I blame Jones and Rojo who keep going on long term injuries.

Should we appoint a coach like Mourinho, Blind wouldn't be a central defender. He will be a back up left back.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hariorh: 12:13am On Jan 13, 2016
elampiro:

Sometimes too I ask why our midfielders cannot travel with the ball. When Smalling overlaps, he takes the ball past players with ease into final third. But our midfielders cannot do that.



Its simple. Their opponents refused to issue travel visa for them.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by tess1(m): 12:15am On Jan 13, 2016
elampiro:


The problem is we had only one defender who could defend aerial threat. We should have at least three. The two centre backs and one full back. It was always hard scoring against us from crossing when we had Brown (RB) and Rio+Vidic.

We need to find solution to Blind. I blame Jones and Rojo who keep going on long term injuries.

Should we appoint a coach like Mourinho, Blind wouldn't be a central defender. He will be a back up left back.

You could see in my post that i wasn`t even talking about today`s game alone. Even with his presence there we still conceded 3 goals and we would`ve conceded more but also for De gea.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by A40(m): 12:15am On Jan 13, 2016
Elampiro right now

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:15am On Jan 13, 2016

We should never have allowed that Newcastle player to get into that good crossing position for the final equalizing goal. We were complacent in the build up to the pass that got him there. At 90th minute, no one gets behind your defence when you are leading. We were even in control having throw in after throw-in on the right wing in their final third. All of a sudden I think we had two vs two on our left full back area and they escaped. Horrible!

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:22am On Jan 13, 2016
Conceded 3 goals against a team thst hasn't scored in 7 hours.



I just saw the above. shocked
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:25am On Jan 13, 2016
A40:
Elampiro right now

It would have been sweet if we won. It's painful to get a draw when we should be climbing the table.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by tess1(m): 12:28am On Jan 13, 2016
elampiro:

We should have long sealed the game. Two clear chances and some half chances. Smalling had a totally off day.

Our defending is horrible. From the midfield to defence, we don't do well to frustrate the opposition from finding spaces to us. We have set of tough matches coming up and I wouldn't like Blind to be the one pairing Smalling. But the is the situation we find ourselves because even if Jones and Rojo become fit today, they wouldn't be at their best.

We also need Valencia to return to free Young for the right wing.

Martial will need to build on his long distance speed. He has great acceleration over a shirt distance but cannot run with great speed over a long distance.

After Fellaini picked a yellow, Mark Dean ensured he didn't award any free kick in favour of Fellaini even when he was fouled. That was frustrating.

Memphis has to be thought how to tackle and defend a ball. He offers no protection to his full back. When he appears to mark, he ends up even confusing his full back.

Lingard and Fellaini should have sealed it. Fellaini nodded the ball to the goalkeeper even though the goal was wide open before him. He keeps stamping the goalkeeper.

We played one of our best games without dominating possession. Van Gaal should learn from that. Sometimes too I ask why our midfielders cannot travel with the ball. When Smalling overlaps, he takes the ball past players with ease into final third. But our midfielders cannot do that.


Those midfielders who would`ve travelled with the ball will not try it because of SAFE PASS PHILOSOPHY. They`ll not want to find themselves on the bench in the next match because of not playing to instruction and this is affecting their games. Smalling can afford to do that because he has no competitor in the defence. I`ve seen Smalling loss the ball when taking the ball forward countless of times without him being benched.

I don`t know why he didn`t even start Paddy as the right back with Young supporting him and also a threat on that right with Martial on the left.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by airmark(m): 12:47am On Jan 13, 2016
elampiro:
Conceded 3 goals against a team thst hasn't scored in 7 hours.



I just saw the above. shocked



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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by tess1(m): 1:06am On Jan 13, 2016
Who knows this guy Saul Niguez of Ath. Madrid? Read that there`s offer from Man Utd for him.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 5:21am On Jan 13, 2016
tess1:
Who knows this guy Saul Niguez of Ath. Madrid? Read that there`s offer from Man Utd for him.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AtleticoFans/status/686612091969638401

Don't no the guy but looks like deal won't happen.



What I want to no is how we missed this Payet dude ?
I guess we've decent players in that position already but still the guy na baller.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 5:31am On Jan 13, 2016
tess1:


Those midfielders who would`ve travelled with the ball will not try it because of SAFE PASS PHILOSOPHY. They`ll not want to find themselves on the bench in the next match because of not playing to instruction and this is affecting their games. Smalling can afford to do that because he has no competitor in the defence. I`ve seen Smalling loss the ball when taking the ball forward countless of times without him being benched.

I don`t know why he didn`t even start Paddy as the right back with Young supporting him and also a threat on that right with Martial on the left.
But we didn't play to the philosophy today,
Herrera found Martial with some lovely pass,even fellani bad as he was yesternight was vital to lingaard first goal and played rooney through ,but rooney missed it.
I put this draw down to Smalling,our best defender playing is first bad game this season.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 7:06am On Jan 13, 2016
Our forward players gave Newcastle defenders space, especially Colocini, to move the ball while they gave us none. I thought LvG was going to solve that in the 2nd half but he resorted to hoofing to Fellaini.

We use two makeshift defenders when we've 3 taking home free money while on the sick bed angry

Get in a RW and loan out Lingard, dude is average, while Martial should be on the left or CF. He's less effective on the right.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:21am On Jan 13, 2016
chrisley024:
Our forward players gave Newcastle defenders space, especially Colocini, to move the ball while they gave us none. I thought LvG was going to solve that in the 2nd half but he resorted to hoofing to Fellaini.

We use two makeshift defenders when we've 3 taking home free money while on the sick bed angry

Get in a RW and loan out Lingard, dude is average, while Martial should be on the left or CF. He's less effective on the right.

I saw that too, and it's not the first time. Rooney was always some yards from Newcastle last men when they had the ball making it easier for them to comfortably start a build up, then I wonder if LVG is now too old to read the game. And whether his assistance have any experience.

I don't think I will support Giggs to take over. He should learn from one more experienced coach like Mourinho.

That draw was so painful. I am beginning to get nervous on how we will end the season.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 8:22am On Jan 13, 2016
Lingard is not average, he needs to work on his strength, he falls way too easily when wrestled for de ball with an opponent.
I think we lost the game due to smalling having a bad game, nd don't 4get dat lastnite was de only time we've played a different system from the possesion based game for almost a year+
lingaard missed a great chance to make it 3-1 but i'm very much convinced that we lost de match due to bad defending.
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.POSITIVES: though i didn't like de idea of a lower class team lyk newcastle dominating us, i was excited by our attacking play lastnite, herrera was excellent with his forward pass, how i wish martiaL played on de left side, we would've caused NewcastLe more problems. Rooney looked very sharp lastnite, his performance last nite even got me thinking if truly the possession based game was the real reason why he has been poor. And not to 4get DDG is WorLd cLass..
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.We may forgive L.V.G and his red army if they would send the scoucers to de cleaners next week.
Till then
#GGMU

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 8:30am On Jan 13, 2016
SCHOLES BACKS MAN UTD TO MAKE TOP FOUR BUT RULES OUT TITLE WIN

"They looked a real threat, there was an intent to score goals. Every fixture feels like a tricky fixture. You're not sure what United you're going to get."

"At home they've struggled. The last eight results haven't been good enough. You're playing against a team second bottom here, confidence is really low, and they've not won that game as well.

"Is it a team that can go on to win the league? I don't think so. Top four? That's a definite possibility. They should be good enough for top four without a shadow of a doubt."

http://m.goal.com/s/en-ng/news/4071/premier-league/2016/01/12/19275482/scholes-backs-man-utd-to-make-top-four-but-rules-out-title
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 8:35am On Jan 13, 2016
chrisley024:
Our forward players gave Newcastle defenders space, especially Colocini, to move the ball while they gave us none. I thought LvG was going to solve that in the 2nd half but he resorted to hoofing to Fellaini.

We use two makeshift defenders when we've 3 taking home free money while on the sick bed angry

Get in a RW and loan out Lingard, dude is average, while Martial should be on the left or CF. He's less effective on the right.
Martial shouldn't be played as a RW anymore! He's more effective playing as a LW, CF and I believe he wouldn't flop in a 4-4-2 Formation as a supporting Striker!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 8:38am On Jan 13, 2016
Manchester United missed chances to blame for Newcastle
loss - Van Gaal

PA Sport
January 12, 2016
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.Louis van Gaal insisted
Manchester United had only themselves to blame after twice squandering leads to draw 3-3 at struggling Newcastle. The Dutchman saw his side race 2-0 ahead and after being
pegged back, go 3-2 up with just
11 minutes remaining before
unlikely hero Paul Dummett
rescued a point for the Magpies
on an eventful evening at St
James' Park.
Van Gaal, whose side have now
slipped to sixth place in the
Premier League table after a run
of just one victory in eight
attempts, said: "I am very
disappointed, but we have to
blame ourselves because we
could have finished this match
much earlier. There were big
chances for [Jesse] Lingard and
[Marouane] Fellaini and we didn't
do that. I have said that also to
my players. "The referee makes a decision on
a penalty that maybe has a big
question mark over it, but we
could have finished the game by
ourselves much earlier.
"There was the deflected shot
from Dummett to equalise, but
okay, that is happening and that
is luck for Newcastle United. But
you have to force the luck and
finish the chances when you get
them when they are so big.''
Van Gaal gave credit to Newcastle
for their style of play and insisted
his team was able to attack more
freely than in recent weeks
because the Magpies did the
same.
Van Gaal said: "Newcastle was
attacking. They wanted to attack,
and that is the difference. I am
saying that all the time, but you
are doubting my words and my
vision.
"When you see two teams who
want to attack, then you see a
game like this. But when you see
a match that only one team
wants to defend and wastes time
and frustrates the opponent...''
Rooney's ninth-minute penalty
got United on their way and they
looked to be coasting when
Jesse Lingard made it 2-0,
although Georginio Wijnaldum
gave the Magpies hope three
minutes before the break.
Aleksandar Mitrovic levelled from the spot with 67 minutes gone,
but Rooney looked to have won
it with a fine 79th-minute strike
until defender Dummett lashed
home a last-gasp equaliser with
the help of a deflection off Chris
Smalling.
Referee Mike Dean gave two
penalties on the night -- one to
Manchester United for handball
against Chancel Mbemba and the
other to Newcastle for Smalling's
tussle with Mitrovic -- both of
them contested by the respective
managers, and might have given
at least one more.
Van Gaal added: "In my opinion,
there is no discussion about the
penalties. I have seen the video
and you see Mbemba is putting
his hand to the ball and that was
why Fellaini could not head the
ball. He did it with purpose and
consciously, so that is a penalty.
"The heavyweight wrestling
between Mitrovic and Smalling,
you can clearly see that he
[Mitrovic] is pushing the head of
Smalling to the ground. Then it is
about heavyweight champions
and who is the heavyweight
champion at the end of it, and
that was Smalling in his eyes. I
cannot understand that.'
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 8:45am On Jan 13, 2016
“When I sign a contract I will announce it immediately,” he said. “Maybe it will be two years until I will coach a team in England.”

“I am very happy about my experience in Munich. I am working until my last second here.

“After that I will go home and wait to see if it is possible to move to England or not. If it’s not, then I won’t.”


Pep Guardiola


With Louis van Gaal‘s contract set to run out in 2017/18, that falls in line with the Man United job.
I think we may eventually get Pep as our next Manager.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 8:47am On Jan 13, 2016
elampiro:


I saw that too, and it's not the first time. Rooney was always some yards from Newcastle last men when they had the ball making it easier for them to comfortably start a build up, then I wonder if LVG is now too old to read the game. And whether his assistance have any experience.
that was where we lost the game cos it made their defenders to occupy the midfield while their midfielders and forwards overloaded our half. Coloccini was left free to spread passes while Blind that should have done so for us was engaged by their forward. Our lack of a CMF to dictate play also worsened it.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 8:58am On Jan 13, 2016
weedtaker:
Manchester United missed chances to blame for Newcastle
loss - Van Gaal

PA Sport
January 12, 2016
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Van Gaal added: "In my opinion, there is no discussion about the penalties. I have seen the video and you see Mbemba is putting his hand to the ball and that was why Fellaini could not head the ball. He did it with purpose and consciously, so that is a penalty. "The heavyweight wrestling between Mitrovic and Smalling, you can clearly see that he [Mitrovic] is pushing the head of Smalling to the ground. Then it is
about heavyweight champions and who is the heavyweight champion at the end of it, and that was Smalling in his eyes. I cannot understand that.'

Smalling is heavyweight champion. Weyrey ni van Gaal yii
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 8:59am On Jan 13, 2016
SIRcumalot:

Happy birthday na three goals we go score today.

Prophet of life grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 9:12am On Jan 13, 2016
weedtaker:
Lingard is not average, he needs to work on his strength, he falls way too easily when wrestled for de ball with an opponent.
if you ain't strong or can't shield your ball then you need miracle to survive in this league
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:18am On Jan 13, 2016
chrisley024:
that was where we lost the game cos it made their defenders to occupy the midfield while their midfielders and forwards overloaded our half. Coloccini was left free to spread passes while Blind that should have done so for us was engaged by their forward. Our lack of a CMF to dictate play also worsened it.

They still had two or three men in front of Rooney. Colochini passed it left and right without us charging the three of them. So we should actually have more men in midfield.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 9:21am On Jan 13, 2016
chrisley024:
if you ain't strong or can't shield your ball then you need miracle to survive in this league
he can work on it.

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