snailspeed:


You are talking nonsense my friend. That is nothing but a propaganda line. When GEJ went to see the soldiers in Baga before the elections, they were very excited to see him. The lastest video currently flying around on social media shows how the current government has been treating our soldiers in the front lines like rags. Even the ones that died fighting for the country were treated like trash and buried without honour. So forget your fake propaganda. It wont fly!

Very few are wise or chose to be. You're one wise one devoid of bandwagon mentality.

snailspeed:


In addition to being a sycophant for Buhari, you are really not that intelligent. Just read your own post again. If the $2.2B money was diverted to purpose other than arms purchase then Dasuki is certainly guilty of corruption of the whole sum, not the one he used to buy things for himself. Isnt he the one who disbured it? Or someon else was in charge of the money who now debursed Dasuki's own share to him? You are terribly confused! You dey fall hand no be small. Shameful!

guy trust me TonyeBarcanista is intelligent but he just happen to be compromised at the moment,its a shame though cos i highly revered him in the past ,cant believe he can really stoop so low.

snailspeed:


He is yet to refute? What nonsense is that? Has he accepted too? What kind of refuting do you want him to do? He should call a world press conference or give a SOTU speech to refute it? The man has said take me to court and I will give my case. But the tyrant has kept him incacerated and away from the public and you are here trying to push falsehood? Very shameful my friend

Dasuki has already been charged to court. He is in detention for a different case. He wants to run abroad in the name of bail. The FG however is dishing the meal bit by bit.

Perhaps, you are not aware that Sambo released statement on this issue and NEVER in the statement refuted the $2.2 billion sum.

Again, save your epistle for the judge.

TonyeBarcanista:

Can't you read? He is GUILTY of corruption but can't be charged for looting the whole money. Those that participated will also be charged alongside. The FG has decided to prosecute them independently. This is common sense. Dasuki can be charged as conspirator to what goes to Dokpesi but he can't be charge for stealing what goes to Dokpesi. Dokpesi will be charged for that.

You have been employing insult and name calling to backup your claim. Honestly, this is a testament that you have weak argument.

If Dasuki and the DFA didn't refute the $2.2billion, I wonder what you base your premise on. Perhaps, a paymaster of yours is involved... Anyway, save that for the judge

You have nothing to say my friend. If I call you a sycophant, it is not an insult. It is a compliment

You just repeated the same nonsense you posted before (and nonsense is not an insult. It means something doesnt make sense). If Dasuki gave Dopkesi monies that he should not have giving him in the first place, Dasuki will be guilty of fraud, not just conspiracy. That is diversion of funds. That is misappropriation! You do not even need a Dopkesi to prosecute him for that! You dey fall hand bro

TonyeBarcanista:

Dasuki has already been charged to court. He is in detention for a different case. He wants to run abroad in the name of bail. The FG however is dishing the meal bit by bit.

Perhaps, you are not aware that Sambo released statement on this issue and NEVER in the statement refuted the $2.2 billion sum.

Again, save your epistle for the judge.

now you have opened a new chapter by defending tyranny. pls can we know of the new crime he was detained for? is there any law that allows for a man to be detained beyond 48hrs without charging him to court? this are evidence of tyranny and no matter how hard a tyranny sells its agenda a bad democratic govt will always be a better option.


pls just stop making fun of yourself on this thread

theshadyexpress:


Sambo dasuki is indeed alive but will not be allowed to say his side of the story by the EFCC and DSS. can you tell me when he spoke about how he received approval for 2,1 bn dollars? thats all i asked of you or did sambo dasuki tell u all this in person? you have long lost your penchant for objectivity and its shameful. the TonyeBarcanista of before will provide a link and sufficient proof to defend his points but now he has been reduced to defending beer parlour thrash. dont know what made you change but i must say that if its for monetary considerations then its not worth it

Sambo Dasuki has released statement with respect to the subject and never DID he refute the $2.2billion sum in the statement. The second major player, a Director of Finance in the ONSA also didn't refute the total sum. On what basis are you taking your position? Is it not when the suspects refutes that we will ask EFCC and DSS to produce the documentry evidence in their disposal?


PS: I'm not a sycophant like some of you. I can boast anywhere that I have never received any dime from any politician dead or alive. If I'm employed by a politician today, I will only accept if it suits my principle. Stop judging me with your own standard!

theshadyexpress:


guy dont let me lose my respect for you, can you please show us the link where Dasuki said GEJ approved "2,1 bn dollars" for arms purchase?

for crying out loud if you want to support APC govt do it with pride and stop acting a script

A man that can't stand for something will fall for anything. Forget that guy you quoted, his tongue in cheek cum tacit posts in favor of APC already gave him out, he's back to his vomit, he's just after his stomach. if you are talking about respect, Omen.ka comes to mind.

TonyeBarcanista:

Dasuki has already been charged to court. He is in detention for a different case. He wants to run abroad in the name of bail. The FG however is dishing the meal bit by bit.

Perhaps, you are not aware that Sambo released statement on this issue and NEVER in the statement refuted the $2.2 billion sum.

Again, save your epistle for the judge.

Which judge? The one DSS and EFCC are avoiding and flauting their orders? Hahaha

He doesnt have to or need to refute anything. He said take me to court and Nigerians will hear the whole truth. Your propaganda is meaningless and weak. It is EFCC that is avoiding the courts not Dasuki. You tell that to the judge when you decide to finally go to court.

TonyeBarcanista:

Sambo Dasuki has released statement with respect to the subject and never DID he refute the $2.2billion sum in the statement. The second major player, a Director of Finance in the ONSA also didn't refute the total sum. On what basis are you taking your position? Is it not when the suspects refutes that we will ask EFCC and DSS to produce the documentry evidence in their disposal?


PS: I'm not a sycophant like some of you. I can boast anywhere that I have never received any dime from any politician dead or alive. If I'm employed by a politician today, I will only accept if it suits my principle. Stop judging me with your own standard!

Your post says it all! You are indeed a sycophant! And a big one at that! Repeating that he didnt refute your claim is very shallow. It means nothing. Did he also admit it? Nah! Its just cheap propaganda. The same way you have brought out news like Metuh ate papers, Metuh agreed to return N400 million, Dasuki called so many people names, Dopkesi called so many peoples names! All are nothing but cheap propaganda

I did not know that sane men still exist in Nigeria. Thanks OP.

TonyeBarcanista:

Sambo Dasuki has released statement with respect to the subject and never DID he refute the $2.2billion sum in the statement. The second major player, a Director of Finance in the ONSA also didn't refute the total sum. On what basis are you taking your position? Is it not when the suspects refutes that we will ask EFCC and DSS to produce the documentry evidence in their disposal?


PS: I'm not a sycophant like some of you. I can boast anywhere that I have never received any dime from any politician dead or alive. If I'm employed by a politician today, I will only accept if it suits my principle. Stop judging me with your own standard!

you just repeated thesame crap again, pls can you show us the link or are you the link?

just give it up already, youve made a big mess of yourself today

snailspeed:


You have nothing to say my friend. If I call you a sycophant, it is not an insult. It is a compliment

You just repeated the same nonsense you posted before (and nonsense is not an insult. It means something doesnt make sense). If Dasuki gave Dopkesi monies that he should not have giving him in the first place, Dasuki will be guilty of fraud, not just conspiracy. That is diversion of funds. That is misappropriation! You do not even need a Dopkesi to prosecute him for that! You dey fall hand bro

Dasuki didn't "give" Dokpesi any money according to him. He said Jonathan told him to "give" Dokpesi money. Dokpesi didn't deny receiving money.

Now, the ONSA don't have tender board, this means no valid contract was awarded. For what purpose was Dokpesi paid? Which contract did he win? If Jonathan really gave "verbal" approval, then you can only charge Dasuki for conspiracy and accessory wrt Dokpesi but the person that authorised it and the recipient will be charged for the theft(or the recipient can be charged for money laundary). If Dokpesi claim that he won contract without tender board, it is also a crime because it is against the Public Procurement Act. Meanwhile, we will like to see the contract(if he so claim).

I doubt if you even understand how prosecution works.

theshadyexpress:


you just repeated thesame crap again, pls can you show us the link or are you the link?

just give it up already, youve made a big mess of yourself today

abeg shift jare. Just ask for link rather than concocting insults. Read Dasuki's statement (notice that he didn't refute the said $2.2billion)
https://www.today.ng/news/national/51484/arms-deal-ex-nsa-dasuki-indicts-jonathan-says-he-acted-on-his-instruction

theshadyexpress:


enlighten yourself bro, NSA office is not for arms purchase alone,they carry out other functions and all these are budgeted for


Find out and thank me later

A look at the post should tell a good reader that I was not going to submit that post. I abandoned it for a reason and Even so, it didn't imply your assumption.

TonyeBarcanista:

Comprehension is indeed an issue here. Sambo Dasuki's office as NSA(ONSA) was given $2.2billion to purchase arms. The money was "diverted" to purpose other than arms purchase. The whole money didn't end up in Dasuki account alone, some other people participated. How can you then charge Dasuki for the whole $2.2billion? This is a straightforward thing. You can only charge Sambo for stealing whatever is traced to him, and perhaps as conspirator and accestory in what went to others.

Hence, this.....

""Secondly, you can't charge Dasuki for "stealing" or diverting $2.2billion when you are yet to establish that he diverted/stole all the monies on his own.""

Sir, are you "by the above" agreeing that Col. Sambo Dasuki ... "stole", "diverted", "shared", "misappropriated", "distributed", "cornered", "ate"...the entire 2.2B USD either by himself or through his "cronies"?

Jonathan Approves All Payment- Dasuki

N/B: He didn't refute the said $2.2billion figure
www.dailytrust.com.ng/news/general/arms-contracts-payments-endorsed-by-ex-president-jonathan-dasuki/120239.html

snailspeed:


Nigerians will not condemn me. The APC zombies and paid hacks on NL are not a representation of Nigerians. They are just rice eaten sycophants trying to survive.

ehya. it is well. at least am happy you realized that your mind is going at snail speed. try upgrade you hear.

your post is dead on arrival. the looters will be fished out and prosecuted. if your dad is among them, trust me this article won't help him.

you just wasted space.

rolchi:


Sir, are you "by the above" agreeing that Col. Sambo Dasuki ... "stole", "diverted", "shared", "misappropriated", "distributed", "cornered", "ate"...the entire 2.2B USD either by himself or through his "cronies"?

Listen... The Office of the NSA under Dasuki misappropriated the $2.2 billion. The NSA is a person within the ONSA. His level of involvement for now does not imply that he diverted the whole. There are other players that got their own through an approval from "above". You can't charge Sambo for stealing the whole.

There is a difference between Office of the NSA and the person of the NSA, just as there is a difference between office of the President and the President.

TonyeBarcanista:

Dasuki didn't "give" Dokpesi any money according to him. He said Jonathan told him to "give" Dokpesi money. Dokpesi didn't deny receiving money.

Now, the ONSA don't have tender board, this means no valid contract was awarded. For what purpose was Dokpesi paid? Which contract did he win? If Jonathan really gave "verbal" approval, then you can only charge Dasuki for conspiracy and accessory wrt Dokpesi but the person that authorised it and the recipient will be charged for the theft(or the recipient can be charged for money laundary). If Dokpesi claim that he won contract without tender board, it is also a crime because it is against the Public Procurement Act. Meanwhile, we will like to see the contract(if he so claim).

I doubt if you even understand how prosecution works.

When I said you are not intelligent, you said it was an insult but see now?

First of all Dasuki did not say anywhere that GEJ asked him to give Dopkesi money. That is from the stable of EFCC and APC. Those are the ingredients of propaganda. There is no valid statement from Dasuki so far except for the one released by his lawyer where he denied all the allegations and stated clearly that he has not named anyone as allegded by the EFCC and the media. He has said he will give his own story in court. So you fail woefully

Jonathan cannot give verbal approval for money. That is a cheap propaganda from your kind. Jonathan has said he didnt sign any such $2.2B arms deal yet you keep repeating it as fact, form where, I dont know. Only the courts can finally decide what really transpired on that.

And if Dasuki claim that he got a verbal order to disburse money and carried it out, he will be making a fool of himself because this is not a military regime. This is a democracy. No court will take that as evidence. He will instead be charged with diversion of funds and even theft in this case. You no know book at all

TonyeBarcanista:

Listen... The Office of the NSA under Dasuki misappropriated the $2.2 billion. The NSA is a person within the ONSA. His level of involvement for now does not imply that he diverted the whole. There are other players that got their own through an approval from "above". You can't charge Sambo for stealing the whole.

There is a difference between Office of the NSA and the person of the NSA, just as there is a difference between office of the President and the President.

You are talking in circles. Please make some sense at least. lol

theshadyexpress:


guy dont let me lose my respect for you, can you please show us the link where Dasuki said GEJ approved "2,1 bn dollars" for arms purchase?

for crying out loud if you want to support APC govt do it with pride and stop acting a script

Pls be civil in ur response to other pple's posts. I was enjoying the whole thing to the point you called buhari presidiot. Nobody not even the OP called anyone names here. Pls stop the insult let's enjoy ourselves by constructively making our points.

Nuff said.

Ioannes:



ehya. it is well. at least am happy you realized that your mind is going at snail speed. try upgrade you hear.

your post is dead on arrival. the looters will be fished out and prosecuted. if your dad is among them, trust me this article won't help him.

you just wasted space.

I said in my last thread that "there is now an army of career sycophants and prospective sycophant from among the masses(victims) that are ever ready to "defend" the perpetrators of this wicked act."

If his father or paymaster is involved, all he needs to do is to get a good lawyer instead of insulting our collective intelligence.

Come o! To all intents and purposes, Dokpesi is a business man. He rendered services and got paid for them. If u are a professional rendering services do u inquire into the source of ur professional fees? Did Dokpesi directly operate the accounts of the NSA?

Secondly, u keep saying of the total sum of $2.2billion being investigated, Dasuki cannot be charged for all. How so if the accusers are sure of their claims and figures? Dasuki was NSA and is allegedly responsible for the disbursement of this sum. Explain why he will not be charged for all...did d money not pass through him in its entirety for onward disbursement to those mentioned?

I ask now, what will be the charge against others? Receiving money without querying the source? Who does that? If Dasuki is not charged for all before its distribution to other persons then what will be the basis of charging others seeing as they weren't part of the office of the NSA and did not directly handle the money in question?

snailspeed:

In addition to being a sycophant for Buhari, you are really not that intelligent. Just read your own post again. If the $2.2B money was diverted to purpose other than arms purchase then Dasuki is certainly guilty of corruption of the whole sum, not the one he used to buy things for himself. Isnt he the one who disbured it? Or someon else was in charge of the money who now debursed Dasuki's own share to him? You are terribly confused! You dey fall hand no be small. Shameful!

TonyeBarcanista:

Can't you read? He is GUILTY of corruption but can't be charged for looting the whole money. Those that participated will also be charged alongside. The FG has decided to prosecute them independently. This is common sense. Dasuki can be charged as conspirator to what goes to Dokpesi but he can't be charge for stealing what goes to Dokpesi. Dokpesi will be charged for that.

If Dasuki and the DFA didn't refute the $2.2billion, I wonder what you base your premise on. Perhaps, a paymaster of yours is involved... Anyway, save that for the judge

snailspeed:
I have been following the so called Dasukigate and I am amazed how easy it is for a government to use the media to deceive and distract the ignorant masses. History has shown that propaganda remains the biggest tool of any government that intends to enslave a people. Unfortnately, even the current opposition has been quite incompetent in putting the records straight

For the records, there is nothing like a $2.1B arms money. It was a propaganda masterstroke well concotted by the DSS and EFCC to distract everyone from the incompetence of the Buhari administration. That is why former president Goodluck Jonathan has come out twice now to put the records staright that he never approved any $2.1B arms money. But it seems the ignorant masses still dont get it. So where did the "$2.1B arms money" headline originate from?

$2.1B was the monies that was allocated to the office of the NSA throughout Dasuki's tenure as NSA. These monies come under SECURITY VOTE. It was not money allocated to the purchase of weapons as the DSS and the EFCC have claimed. That is why they cant take Dasuki to court. They will lose woefully. Security vote is not money allocated for arms purchase. Of the whole monies that make up the $2.1B, only the $300 million from the returned Abacha loot was actually recommended for the purchase of arms. That is why in court, the charges brought against Dasuki was in that range. But they are likely going to lose in court for that because weapons were actually purchased. Whether they are worth $300 million is what the EFCC will have to prove in court. But from the way they have been refusing to follow the court process, one is safe to assume that they dont trust their own case against Dasuki.

But why did they go with the headlines of "$2.1 Billion arms purchase money" when they knew it was not the case? Because the whole anti coruption fight was only a propaganda stunt from the beginning. It was a well crafted stunt to distract the masses and persecute any dissenting voice so Buhari can fully consolidate power. Does that mean I think many of the politicians mentioned in the scandal are clean? By no means! Nigerian politicians are corrupt without a doubt including the presidency and everyone in the rulling APC party. The president's campaign itself was sponsored from corruption. The Amaechi corruption scandals are well documented with very strong evidence.

If Dasuki has stolen any funds, he should be prosecuted accordingly, but the media propaganda and charade has got to stop. Media trial is injustice in itself. I find it really deceitful when I see lines like "what will you tell the Nigerian soldiers that didnt have weapons to fight and were killed because Dasuki shared the arms money". That is nothing but propaganda and trying to appeal to sentiments to push a narrative. If that were the case, what has the same military been using to fight BH in the last 8 months since Buhari has not bought any new weapons? What weapons did the army use to push back BH prior to the 2015 elections? Did they push BH back with their bare hands too? Even Lie Mohammed claims BH has been defeated. With which weapons did the army defeat BH? With their bare hands?

It is important we put all these straight so we dont fall for cheap propoaganda by a government that has completely lost its way. The same government that claims they are fighting corruption came out with a terrible corruption laden budget where they intended to connect cables from the President's residence to the drivers residence with N300 million. In fact, the budget of yams was so laden with coruption that they had to shamelessly withdraw it.

The world has changed. If the current government thinks they will continue to rule with propaganda, they should think again because they will be exposed again and again. Thank God for social media and the Internet!

Receive multiple blessings this year!

TonyeBarcanista:

I said in my last thread that "there is now an army of career sycophants and prospective sycophant from among the masses(victims) that are ever ready to "defend" the perpetrators of this wicked act."

If his father or paymaster is involved, all he needs to do is to get a good lawyer instead of insulting our collective intelligence.

You are the biggest career sycophant I have ever seen. You are a real jester! Hahahahahahaha

Lalasticlala come and see your nairaland intellectual sycophant Tonyebarcanista embarrassing himself as usual

freeze001:
Come o! To all intents and purposes, Dokpesi is a business man. He rendered services and got paid for them. If u are a professional rendering services do u inquire into the source of ur professional fees? Did Dokpesi directly operate the accounts of the NSA?

Secondly, u keep saying of the total sum of $2.2billion being investigated, Dasuki cannot be charged for all. How so if the accusers are sure of their claims and figures? Dasuki was NSA and is allegedly responsible for the disbursement of this sum. Explain why he will not be charged for all...did d money not pass through him in its entirety for onward disbursement to those mentioned?

I ask now, what will be the charge against others? Receiving money without querying the source? Who does that? If Dasuki is not charged for all before its distribution to other persons then what will be the basis of charging others seeing as they weren't part of the office of the NSA and did not directly handle the money in question?

Dasuki has already refuted the accusations through his lawyers statement. What other refuting do you expect again? He has said he will present his case in court. Isnt that simple enough to understand? Anything else is just propaganda and media trial

TonyeBarcanista:

I said in my last thread that "there is now an army of career sycophants and prospective sycophant from among the masses(victims) that are ever ready to "defend" the perpetrators of this wicked act."

If his father or paymaster is involved, all he needs to do is to get a good lawyer instead of insulting our collective intelligence.

I wonder o, my brother, their intention is to distract us. it won't work.

snailspeed:


Please leave that propaganda line. I wont fall for it. Nobody is a crook until a court says so. As soon as the court pronounces them as crooks, I will come back here and call them that, you can trust me on that. Until then, I will not call someone a crook because Buhari or the EFCC say they are. On a more general level, I can refer to Nigerian politicians as crooks because we all know that there is corruption in the system. But using that as an alibi to label anyone as corrupt so you can go after them or keep them shut is nothing but tyranical and anti democratic and I will never support that.

Epic!

read through ur link...didnt find where he accepted 2,2 billion figure.....

TonyeBarcanista:
Jonathan Approves All Payment- Dasuki

N/B: He didn't refute the said $2.2billion figure
www.dailytrust.com.ng/news/general/arms-contracts-payments-endorsed-by-ex-president-jonathan-dasuki/120239.html

snailspeed:


There is no such money for arms deal. It isnt whether the money belongs to government or not. What they did was to calculate all the money that passed through the NSA's office for his tenure and come out to say it is money for arms. It was a well crafted lie (though not so well crafted for those who ask simple questions). The only money that was recommended for arms was the $300 million returned Abacha loot which NOI clearly explained. The rest are just lies and propaganda

Word!

snailspeed:


When I said you are not intelligent, you said it was an insult but see now?

First of all Dasuki did not say anywhere that GEJ asked him to give Dopkesi money. That is from the stable of EFCC and APC. Those are the ingredients of propaganda. There is no valid statement from Dasuki so far except for the one released by his lawyer where he denied all the allegations and stated clearly that he has not named anyone as allegded by the EFCC and the media. He has said he will give his own story in court. So you fail woefully

Jonathan cannot give verbal approval for money. That is a cheap propaganda from your kind. Jonathan has said he didnt sign any such $2.2B arms deal yet you keep repeating it as fact, form where, I dont know. Only the courts can finally decide what really transpired on that.

And if Dasuki claim that he got a verbal order to disburse money and carried it out, he will be making a fool of himself because this is not a military regime. This is a democracy. No court will take that as evidence. He will instead be charged with diversion of funds and even theft in this case. You no know book at all

Perhaps, you don't know how you have shifted from the original subject to commenting on the roles of the player. Perhaps, this may be my last reply to you.

1. First, you claimed that the $2.2billion extra budget for arms was a scam that it was "only" $300m. However, the said $300 million only form a part of the $2.2billion and was repatriated late 2014, while the total sum of the extra-budgetary spending for arms started even before that time.
www.dailytrust.com.ng/news/general/arms-contracts-payments-endorsed-by-ex-president-jonathan-dasuki/120239.html

This has knocked off your entire argument

2. You claimed that Dasuki didn't mention Dokpesi but Dasuki maintained that all disbursement care ordered by Jonathan(including payment of N10billion to PDP delegates)
https://www.today.ng/news/national/51484/arms-deal-ex-nsa-dasuki-indicts-jonathan-says-he-acted-on-his-instruction

Even Metuh admitted collecting N400million frrom ONSA after doing a "special assignment" for Jonathan.


Thirdly, you have no argument. If you think you do, please, approach the judge.

Fourthly, I have no business to comment whether or not Dasuki really got GEJ's authorisations, that's their own business. They should tell the judge.