mostyg:

The big-bang theory doesnt in anyway proof that God did not create the universe.God could have commanded the universe to be formed in that way.
One sure thing is that the universe did not come into existence just by itself. "Everything remains in state of rest until an external force acts on it"...Newton

That's just sophism and can't be proven. I just stated possible reasons backed by science. If you have any plausible evidence to support God created the universe bring forth so we can argue for or against it.

ronald4lif:


That's just sophism and can't be proven. I just stated possible reasons backed by science. If you have any plausible evidence to support God created the universe bring forth so we can argue for or against it.

I am not too good in arguing. Will you believe in God's existence if you see convincing evidences?

mostyg:

I am not too good in arguing. Will you believe in God's existence if you see convincing evidences?

Certainly will. I'm for believing anything that can be backed with evidence.

ronald4lif:


Certainly will. I'm for believing anything that can be backed with evidence.

The summary of big-bang theor yis that the universe and its content were once a unit before an explosion that made them parted ways.

Lets consider what God told his messenger some 1400 years ago.
Quran 21 vs 30.." Have not those who disbelieve known that the heavens and the earth were joined together as one united piece, then we parted them"

Does this not explain the big-bang theory?

Because they are LOCAL and DENSE!
Toto na empire to them o!

mostyg:

The big-bang theory doesnt in anyway proof that God did not create the universe.God could have commanded the universe to be formed in that way.
One sure thing is that the universe did not come into existence just by itself. "Everything remains in state of rest until an external force acts on it"...Newton

this I agree with

EnlightenedSoul:


Night for me, but morning to ya

This is absolutely true....


So, I do think it bitter, especially times I ponder the long term.

You and mindfulness I love you guys. I agree with this truth. This one man one woman issue could be discussed mutually and if you still love the man then girl take your number and Sidon.

Mindfulness:


@bold

It doesn't sound f'd up to me. It is true and this is another reason why I do not feel any jealousy any longer.

People being disposal is another branch from abandonment issues... That is counter action and that's not healthy either. It's better than surrender but it's still not the answer. There are abandonment issues when you run from intimacy.

True talk dear.

Richy4:
It is Not a country thing... all over the world, no one like a cheating partner... some women grudgingly forgive not because they are the forgiven type but because they are financially challenged... The man is the bread winner of the house... how will she manage on her own especially with kids.....?

But in advanced countries the Law made it quite easy for the ladies when it comes to separations... ... They will take half of what the man has... on top of that, the man will pay welfare for the kids weekly or monthly depending on his wages until the kid turns 18.

Not that African women forgives, the law was not favourable to them....

Nubian113:


You and mindfulness I love you guys. I agree with this truth. This one man one woman issue could be discussed mutually and if you still love the man then girl take your number and Sidon.

I love you too!

I will respond to your post later as I am about to leave the house and I would love to dedicate an appropriate amount of time to what you have shared with me. I feel honored. Have a lovely day!

ronald4lif:


In essence you're saying God created the earth? That hasn't been proven beyond what religious doctrines teaches. And which are unfounded.

There are a few theories as to how the earth came into existence. The key one is called "The Big Bang." It supposes that the entire mass of the universe is constantly expanding and contracting. At some point in the continuum of time, all the matter in the universe took up a very very small amount of space.

The pressure caused by this compression caused the universe to explode in a super heated blast (the big bang) sending it all over the universe. (It's a known fact that the universe is indeed still expanding - as proven by the doppler effect when viewing celestial bodies in telescopes)

Also, over time all these particles began to cool and clump together forming stars, moon etc and planets and such.

The gasses and temperature on our planet were just right so that certain forms of bacteria were able to come into being. The rest is a process known as evolution.

The likelyhood of this happening combined with the likelyhood that you can actually read this electronic message thousands of miles away from me is so highly improbable that anyone would have to understand it to be a complete miracle.

Nebular hypothesis is a more acceptable explanation to the formation of the earth and how it came into existence.

This your theory was written by who, was the person there to witness it, I m not just basing my findings on religion or science alone, I m telling you about common sense here, everything you read on the internet was written by people, all the books you read in schools were written by people. My common sense tells me God exist and I m a living witness to it. God speaks to me and confirms it, I have seen to many miracles in my life to know God exists. Go and study about human ear alone, look at the construction, pay more attention to it and come tell me what you think could be responsible for its formation.

Mindfulness:


I wouldn't call it queer behavior.

Maybe you should stay true to yourself and re-consider whether a monogamous relationship is your preference instead of beating up on yourself to fit into societal conventions, which do not do yourself and they way you are any justice.

We have been brainwashed into believing that we can only love and desire one person and we should be doing so for the rest of our lives when in fact our natural inclination is a different one.

Your sermons are a veiled acquiescence to unhinged social conduct, a call to surrender to the impulsive and bestial disposition of men which God has given enough intelligence to discountenance.

You seem to merge all human emotions into a common term of love. Your emboldened call for the resignation of man's very core --love-- to any emotional impression, however fleeting it may be , is quite worrisome, especially to women.

Mindfulness:


Ok, let us all agree that cheaters are wicked potential murderers and children of Lucifer himself. Helpful?

You don't need to agree with me, that you believe that cheating is part of life does not make it right, that you also believe that you, someone else or the man you got married to, cannot but cheats is still your business, you are free to believe whatever you want, as a man thinketh in his heart, so is he.
Cheating is one of the bad habits that one acquired over time till it becomes almost an involuntary, it can actually becomes a lifestyle, it is sinful and Satan uses it to afflict people and cause them to suffer eternal regrets and condemnation.
@mindful, if you want to know about God's principles, let me know, I can put you through, some of the things you quoted up are based on the word of God, and you don't want to share religious belief.

lezz:
Your sermons are a veiled acquiescence to unhinged social conduct, a call to surrender to the impulsive and bestial disposition of men which God has given enough intelligence to discountenance.

You seem to merge all human emotions into a common term of love. Your emboldened call for the resignation of man's very core --love-- to any emotional impression, however fleeting it may be , is quite worrisome, especially to women.

Her sermons are actually impracticable and so unrealistic, except you have been a victim of several depression or cheats in relationship that now makes you think you can develop thick skin to repel such. All humans are not the same and can't be the same. She was just assuming a super woman which her write up could not butress

McSquishi:


If someone cheats and them doing that makes you say society is the culprit, that seems like blaming. It certainly seems to alleviate the cheater of personal responsibility.

I wasn't attempting to make an unfair analogy using the murder scenario. It was an attempt to make the point clearer by using an example of a wrongdoing that has less grey area.

Understood, and I get your meaning, but as you pointed out, some actions have more gray areas, whilst others are black and white. There're reasons for that.

I wasn't trying unburden the cheater of personal responsibility or wrongdoing - that isn't in contention here (at least, not on my part) - rather, what I've been trying to say is, the cheater's act of transgression isn't always all there is to consider.

Mindfulness:


You think one can be too positive? Interesting. I disagree

That's neat. Are you really that zen?

bjcole:

Her sermons are actually impracticable and so unrealistic, except you have been a victim of several depression or cheats in relationship that now makes you think you can develop thick skin to repel such. All humans are not the same and can't be the same. She was just assuming a super woman which her write up could not butress

My fears exactly.

Nubian113:


You and mindfulness I love you guys. I agree with this truth. This one man one woman issue could be discussed mutually and if you still love the man then girl take your number and Sidon.

What's love got to do, got to do with it?

BjCole, I stand to applaud your efforts here. I've also found McSquishi' post very good, even if not as many. And also a worthy mention for Lezz, late-on, but very insightful entries.

It behoves to challenge moral bankruptcy, no matter how "logically sweetened" or otherwise dressed up. Like BJ said "the fool has said in his heart there is no God"...and without God, what objective morality can there actually be? Hence attempts to reduce men and their motivation to those of brute beasts.

Very well done. Please keep it up.


TV

TV01:
BjCole, I stand to applaud your efforts here. I've also found McSquishi' post very good, even if not as many. And also a worthy mention for Lezz, late-on, but very insightful entries.

It behoves to challenge moral bankruptcy, no matter how "logically sweetened" or otherwise dressed up. Like BJ said "the fool has said in his heart there is no God"...and without God, what objective morality can there actually be? Hence attempts to reduce men and their motivation to those of brute beasts.

Very well done. Please keep it up.


TV

Thanks Bros, your moniker rings a bell, you are an old contributor here I guess, what else can we contribute here than to help people build good homes and let people know that these things are possible if you can condition your mind towards it. This month made me 9yrs in marriage, we have had cases where some couples would not want to withstand.
My wife and I had been through a lot but we resolve that all things work together for good for those that love God. There was a period of ignorance in my life that I felt like I was tired of my wife, thank God that it was not too late for me, after working on my self, I discovered that my wife does not even have any problem, now we live happily and we are working towards a perfect home. Why will you cheat on your spouse if you have not lost your mind, the person you claimed you loved before, all of a sudden you don't love her or him again, then you didn't love in the first place.

EnlightenedSoul:


What's love got to do, got to do with it?

Everything and nothing, depending on where you stand in your emotional development.

EnlightenedSoul:


That's neat. Are you really that zen?

Answer the question!

bjcole:


You don't need to agree with me, that you believe that cheating is part of life does not make it right, that you also believe that you, someone else or the man you got married to, cannot but cheats is still your business, you are free to believe whatever you want, as a man thinketh in his heart, so is he.

Where did you read that cheating is right?

Cheating is one of the bad habits that one acquired over time till it becomes almost an involuntary, it can actually becomes a lifestyle, it is sinful and Satan uses it to afflict people and cause them to suffer eternal regrets and condemnation.

@mindful, if you want to know about God's principles, let me know, I can put you through, some of the things you quoted up are based on the word of God, and you don't want to share religious belief.

I have unmediated access to God's word so you are not needed.

lezz:
Your sermons are a veiled acquiescence to unhinged social conduct, a call to surrender to the impulsive and bestial disposition of men which God has given enough intelligence to discountenance.

You seem to merge all human emotions into a common term of love. Your emboldened call for the resignation of man's very core --love-- to any emotional impression, however fleeting it may be , is quite worrisome, especially to women.

What are you worried about?

EnlightenedSoul:


What's love got to do, got to do with it?

But a second-hand emotion. Who need a heart huh lol

*Listening to Tina Turner now* thanks

Mindfulness:


Answer the question!

Is it possible to be too positive, you mean?

EnlightenedSoul:


Is it possible to be too positive, you mean?

Yes.

Nubian113:

But a second-hand emotion. Who need a heart huh lol

*Listening to Tina Turner now* thanks

I actually don't think it's a secondhand emotion or agree with the rest of the song, really lol. That line is the pretty accurate on it's own, tho, IMO.

Mindfulness:


Yes.

That's relative to the person's POV. It's normal to see the negative in negatives and the positive in positives, but I know some people are more capable than others in seeing the silver-lining/bright side.

Mindfulness:


What are you worried about?

You require folks to give into their impulses which you have called "natural inclination" rather than exercise restrain which is a mark of superior being as against that of premial existence.

McSquishi:
I was saying the singular act the op's topic discussed is cheating. Thus suggesting that I am judging based on one character trait is sorta silly as only one "character flaw" is the topic of discussion.

Earlier I commented that I was taught lying & cheating are morally wrong and u replied "who wasn't"... So, now I'm confused at your attempt to justify cheating and hesitation to label it "bad".

Entering into a monogamous relationship is a voluntary act. It's a promise to your partner that you'll be faithful. Breaking that promise is a character flaw, it shows bad character.

If you don't agree with that, that's fine. Going back and forth is pointless though.

You have already said it rightly earlier jare I don't understand where that guy is going to with his rgument

lezz:
You require folks to give into their impulses which you have called "natural inclination" rather than exercise restrain which is a mark of superior being as against that of premial existence.

Where did you read it? And since when has an impulse become a natural inclination?