sweetgala:

1- Reliability and history


so funny. why build a new port if it won't be reliable.


2 - Safety


when last did u hear of a kidnapping. don't oil bearing vessel use d same water body..

people also get kidnapped in lagos and south west.



3 - Demand


if government remove bureaucracy, and other calculated effort to keep onne dysfunctional. then we can talk about demand..

why do the wastern folks always come up with reasons to defend injustice against ss and se.

beats me. back to back.

chiefobdk:
why do the wastern folks always come up with reasons to defend injustice against ss and se.

beats me. back to back.

What injustice? Shey na SW folks say make Ibo importers no use Onne Port?

chiefobdk:
why do the wastern folks always come up with reasons to defend injustice against ss and se.

beats me. back to back.

When it comes to business profitability, sentiments are not involved. Money and market talks, bullshit walks. Anybody that goes against the grain is just charitable at best. Government has built and invested in the ports and it's time for the market to create a demand for it's use.

All the tribal sentiments is just unnecessary cry

RealityShot:
Why is the onne sea port not clearing containers?
Why is it not helping to deliver imported petrol?

Why did Nigeria spend so much to build sea port
99% of goods are still imported through the older sea port in lagos?

Onne unlike lagos is a very free place..
Trucks can park and load whatever without encroaching into port Harcourt city I unlike lagos.

So y not use that port?

Why pay shipping companies demurrage daily to wait till they get discharged/offloaded at lagos port?

Is it politics again?

Nigeria should learn effective and efficient ways of living...

dont start with your margilization.....you dont have the population in that area....its very simple......

sweetgala:

2 - Safety

PH is the Capital of kidnapping in Nigeria, it is also in proximity to the MEND and ND vandalism and piracy. Why would a ship ladden with goods worth millions of dollars go near such a port, some of these foreign owned and registered ships are not even insured to go near onne.

It is up to the PH SG and governors forum of that GP zone to resolve the security issues for their own benefit. You can't blame a bunch of Yoruba people in Lagos for the actions of PH and ND citiEnrry and it's effect.

Sweetgala, I must confess, you are just too intelligent. You correctly highligted the reasons so as to school the uninformed ones.

@ realityshot, you guys should clear your heads of this mentality that hausa /fulani and yorubas are your problems and therefore your enemies. Your region is not the only one sidelined in Nigeria. Infact, all regions and the masses are the ones that have been sidelined.

I can relate with the security reason highlighted above. let me tell you a personal experience. My company would have loved to commence ferry business that would run through the whole of SS but for the militancy, kidnapping and pirate activities there, they moved the business to Benin and Ghana which will commence in the second quarter of this year.

@chiefobdk, if I hear say kidnapping no dey SS again. Also Read the paragraph above

Are you to blame? is the SS region to blame? is my company to blame. The answer is NO. It's just unfortunate the way things have turned out in Nigeria

May God heal Nigeria

Every submission on this thread so far has no answer or the hidden truth on this subject.

This thread is above Nairaland discussions because of recent invasion of the forum by idle and non-scholarly minded people.

There are scholarly and intensive research works already concluded that can give you insight on this subject.

Search for them, there are many uncovered facts you will learn and some, you can't bear depending on your orientation.

raumdeuter:


What injustice? Shey na SW folks say make Ibo importers no use Onne Port?

if the port is ok to use. why then do folks avoid it. Abi people in port Harcourt Don't also import?

Pls think.

Super1Star:


It is so expensive to deliver to Onne because of the following:

1. The importers had a choice of filling destination port themselves and they wrote Lagos with their own pen.

2. Th hazards for liners to berth in Onne is too much and it is not commensurate with the reward. Hence, captain decline carrying cargoes meant for such dangerous water. Anyone that will berth there will be at a higher cost.

3. Due to the fact that more ships are not berthing there, the charges might cost more because the cost of running a port is almost th same whether the port is in Zungeru or Sambisa or Kandahar. It is those small number of berthing ships that will bear the brunt of the total operational cost of the port. Hence the charges.

This will decrease greatly if only the importers from SE can simply fill Onne as destination port, can insure the lives of the crew and pay premium for the risk the ship is undertaken.

Per the bolded, why is Onne hazardous and its water dangerous? Is Douala port also hazardous and it water dangerous?

IsraeliAIRFORCE:
Every submission on this thread so far has no answer or the hidden truth on this subject.

This thread is above Nairaland discussions because of recent invasion of the forum by idle and non-scholarly minded people.

There are scholarly and intensive research works already concluded that can give you insight on this subject.

Search for them, there are many uncovered facts you will learn and some, you can't bear depending on your orientation.

This is like belching hot air. If you have any meaningful contribution to the subject then table it.

soulpeppersoup:


How many container will be board on a ship to onne? If you can load a full ship it will be delivered to your onne port. But since only a few container are heading to east, it is economic waste.

prove the bolded..

all this ewedu people are not different from their quota system counterparts up north,so the don't know that the ZOO GOV deliberately incapacitate onne? O dear me! so it is the responsibility of igbo importers to tell vessel were to Beth .free education and quota system is more dangerous than Boko Haram

chiefobdk:



if the port is ok to use. why then do folks avoid it. Abi people in port Harcourt Don't also import?

Pls think.

Ibo men do a lot of Importing into Nigeria, why have they chosen not to use Onne rather Lagos?

They are imprting consumer goods

lemme ask you if you are to import consumer goods to sell, would you rather choose a port close to the market SW or just import through a port far away from the market due to sentiments?

Ask your importer brothers why they chose Lagos over Onne

kayfra:


This is like belching hot air. If you have any meaningful contribution to the subject then table it.

What is the difference between these two presentation.

1. A man sees you on the street and looks at you and reads from his bible thus "woe unto you hypocrite" and continue his preaching

And

2. A man approaches you walking on the street a calls you a hypocrite.

raumdeuter:


Ibo men do a lot of Importing into Nigeria, why have they chosen not to use Onne rather Lagos?

They are imprting consumer goods

lemme ask you if you are to import consumer goods to sell, would you rather choose a port close to the market SW or just import through a port far away from the market due to sentiments?

Ask your importer brothers why they chose Lagos over Onne

Mr. stop attaching so much importance to lagos. last I checked lagos population is 20 million..

not all importer offload in lagos...you 're not making sense to me...

what of importers in SS SE. you just cancelled Anambra Rivers Akwaibom Abia Imo Bayelsa Ebonyi Delta Edo Enugu Crossriver

the population of this places. not enough to own a functional port?

chiefobdk:



Mr. stop attaching so much importance to lagos. last I checked lagos population is 20 million..

not all importer offload in lagos...you 're not making sense to me...

what of importers in SS SE. you just cancelled Anambra Rivers Akwaibom Abia Imo Bayelsa Ebonyi Delta Edo Enugu Crossriver

the population of this places. not enough to own a functional port?

What's this one saying?
The question is who stopped your fellow landlocked parasite from patronising the onne port?
Infact, it would be a welcome thing because Lagos needs to be decongested from you losers!

raumdeuter:


Whats so special? 20M economically viable residents plus another 25million within a 3hrs drive of Lagos.

Show me anywhere that has such. People graviatate to where the market is.

Ask why every company wants to be in New York compared to Wisconsin

People aggravate there because it had already being made a commercial center through deliberate, shortsighted and backward leadership of our FG thereby crippling Nigeria's economic potential nearly irreparably.
It is not the other way round like you posted.

chiefobdk:
Mr. stop attaching so much importance to lagos. last I checked lagos population is 20 million..

not all importer offload in lagos...you 're not making sense to me...

what of importers in SS SE. you just cancelled Anambra Rivers Akwaibom Abia Imo Bayelsa Ebonyi Delta Edo Enugu Crossriver

the population of this places. not enough to own a functional port?

So what stops other importers from offloading in Onne. especially Ibo importers

Lagos is the center of commerce and the nearby SW states all have a big population to support the import.

Most of the imported materials are consumed disproportionally in the SW, be it phones, electronics, vehicles etc

next time when you wan import use Onne, Nobody dey hold you

Yanks101:
People aggravate there because it had already being made a commercial center through deliberate, shortsighted and backward leadership of our FG thereby crippling Nigeria's economic potential nearly irreparably.
It is not the other way round like you posted.

What do you mean by people "aggravate"? Can you just type pidgin

Why was your village not chosen to be the capital? Calabar and lokoja too were capitals

And FYI lagos has ceased to be Nigeria's capital for almost the past 25yrs. Yet everyone would rather leave there.

You too make your own villa the commercial capital. I am sure the most importnat people in your village either do business in Lagos or have something to do with lagos

DiademSh07:

What's this one saying?
The question is who stopped your fellow landlocked parasite from patronising the onne port?
Infact, it would be a welcome thing because Lagos needs to be decongested from you losers!

.


How apc argue.

IsraeliAIRFORCE:


What is the difference between these two presentation.

1. A man sees you on the street and looks at you and reads from his bible thus "woe unto you hypocrite" and continue his preaching

And

2. A man approaches you walking on the street a calls you a hypocrite.

Ngwakwe, why the over dramatization? If you have stumbled on a document that explains the true reasons behind the under utilisation of Onne port, how difficult is it to simply share it for deliberation.

I wonder why Nigerians make simple things look overwhelming.

raumdeuter:



So what stops other importers from offloading in Onne. especially Ibo importers

who 're the ibo importers?

If u r talking about Igbo importers patronising Onne.

Dats the point of this thread. government need to probe Onne port..and other ports in d south south.

chiefobdk:



who 're the ibo importers?

If u r talking about Igbo importers patronising Onne.

Dats the point of this thread. government need to probe Onne port..and other ports in d south south.

LOL!
Wetin concern FG? Na govt ask you make you no patronise am?
Ibos are just clowns!

chiefobdk:



who 're the ibo importers?

If u r talking about Igbo importers patronising Onne.

Dats the point of this thread. government need to probe Onne port..and other ports in d south south.

Wetin concern govt inside?

On your shipping document, they ask you destination port, You see Onne you ignore and choose Lagos

So you want govt to start probing why Emeka chose Lagos? Maybe they should starting probing why Obi chose to marry Nneka instead of Adaora then to satisfy you

chiefobdk:



who 're the ibo importers?

If u r talking about Igbo importers patronising Onne.

Dats the point of this thread. government need to probe Onne port..and other ports in d south south.

Government has played their part by providing a port. Tell the importers to use the port.

Kapish

IsraeliAIRFORCE:


What is the difference between these two presentation.

1. A man sees you on the street and looks at you and reads from his bible thus "woe unto you hypocrite" and continue his preaching

And

2. A man approaches you walking on the street a calls you a hypocrite.

You have anything to share at all?

[quote author=asha80 post=42098344] my question is this.was this so in the 60s? Yes most of trade in Nigeria is focused towards Lagos but has it been always so?people are complaining Lagos is conjested(with dangote refinery and lekki port coming up it would only get worse) but have fg sat down to see how it can lift the burden of the country put on Lagos?[/quote]

I can't understand why the federal govt both past and present are not reasoning along this line. People have raised some good points why Lagos seaport is the best option for importing goods but if both the state and federal govt are serious about decongesting Lagos state then making the onne seaport more functional will be a good place to start.

[quote author=Folksyharry post=42109642][/quote]I think fg might actually like the congestion of lagos

raumdeuter:


What do you mean by people "aggravate"? Can you just type pidgin

Why was your village not chosen to be the capital? Calabar and lokoja too were capitals

And FYI lagos has ceased to be Nigeria's capital for almost the past 25yrs. Yet everyone would rather leave there.

You too make your own villa the commercial capital. I am sure the most importnat people in your village either do business in Lagos or have something to do with lagos

Sorry, my mistake for thinking you've had a rare moment of sanity.
It won't happen again.
Btw,Your rebuttal is bullshit and elementary, but then refuting it would be a waste of time.
One thing you should know and remember though is that your country would remain the poverty-striken back-water habitat it currently is, with lagos posing as a pseudo-megacity, not even in the class of its african peers.
I sure that is all that matters afterall, a one-eyed king in the midst of the blind who is not meant to be king in the first place.

Goodluck Jonathan really failed the minority, apart from the glorified Federal University at Otuoke, there is nothing to show for his years in office. The Onne - Port Harcourt road is not in a good state.

sweetgala:


It is not politics and the government beyond creating a favourable environment, by making clearing charges and conditions more attractive in onne can not force private owned vessels to dock at oone if Lagos remains favourable.

There are several reasons and I'll expand on them

1- Reliability and history

For many years this vessels which trade and call at the Nigerian port have docked in Lagos, the captain understand the area from a seafaring perspective.They've always gone to Lagos and have a planned route which may involve visiting multiple ports along West Africa. Ships are not planes they take weeks to cross the ocean. There is no reaon a ship can not dock at onne and then process to Lagos

2 - Safety

PH is the Capital of kidnapping in Nigeria, it is also in proximity to the MEND and ND vandalism and piracy. Why would a ship
ladden with goods worth millions of dollars go near such a port, some of these foreign owned and registered ships are not even insured to go near onne.

It is up to the PH SG and governors forum of that GP zone to resolve the security issues for their own benefit. You can't blame a bunch of Yoruba people in Lagos for the actions of PH and ND citiEnrry and it's effect.

3 - Demand

Lagos remains the centre of commerce and trade on Nigeria, and it is used and accessed by all Nigerians, some 50% of imported consumer goods on those ships belong to people from SE, these same people can bring the goods through onne but they'd rather land their goods safely in Lagos ths risk it being hijacked in PH.

Lagos is more central and accessible to.other parts of Nigeria than PH , if the second Niger bridge is built this may equalise things a little.

Govenemt can not force the concept of demand to change, it can only alter it's supply of said demand to encourage individuals to use alternatives

There are other reasons but those are simple immediate ones

U ve not said anything at all. That ur safety or insecurity as an excuse is really funny. Which part of Nigeria that is safe. Y not tell shell, cheveron, Agip, NNPC and other oil companies to leave our offshore becos of insecurity. You yorubas are just too greedy and self centred, I ve always believe that u guys are d major problem of Nigeria. U shout one Nigeria wen things are favourable at ur end.

This topic have been discussed severally on this forum, but there r some things I don't get........ 1) R importers asked where they want their containers to b offloaded? 2) If yes, why don't my Igbo friends choose onne instead of Lagos (abi Onne no dey d form)..... Why Im asking z that they offload in Lagos then move t to d S.E for those whose businesses r there which to me z costly... So to my fellow igbos crying "underground masturbation" abi na marginalisation by d Fulanis n Yoruba's, I think we should ask our Igbo brothers why they don't use t instead of coming online to make t seem progress of igbos z tied to other tribes (Abeg no abuse.... Abeg o)