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Re: Onne Sea Port by Nobody: 6:36am On Jan 19, 2016
I blame both our own Niger deltans and also all successive governments...It is a blame we all have to carry..Our collective foolishness is why these other ports aren't working...

Tribalism
Militancy
Greed

All three is why only the lagos seaport is working..well...For now I port for true federalism the only true way for our leaders to think and independently do things to generate jobs and revenue...

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Re: Onne Sea Port by sweetgala(m): 10:56am On Jan 19, 2016
dami212:

U ve not said anything at all. That ur safety or insecurity as an excuse is really funny. Which part of Nigeria that is safe. Y not tell shell, cheveron, Agip, NNPC and other oil companies to leave our offshore becos of insecurity. You yorubas are just too greedy and self centred, I ve always believe that u guys are d major problem of Nigeria. U shout one Nigeria wen things are favourable at ur end.

Lol, you are silly.

Wiser individuals know the truth for what it is ; the higher spate of kidnappings, oil pipeline vandalism and militancy, why then did all the multinationals move their administrative offices to Lagos, and base their staff thore, flying them to the oil installations when required.

The ND is not safe by a long comparison to the SW. Blame the Yoruba all you want, the fact remains the Yoruba have secured their society to a higher standard than others. As is the SE are making their region unfavourable for capital investment because of the Biafra agitations, any investors need to be bold to put their money there, and that's why the governors are putting up a strong faces against the Biafra protests which is raining on their parade.

Same as the northeast which has insurgency, why would I put my money in the path of danger. Those ships have insurance that covers their trading routes , and the captains can be sued for losses incurred due to negligence.

Keep screaming Yoruba on NL while you and your brethren render your environs unattractive, it's a bloody competition for capital, there is so much money and each governor has to prove they are well suited to receive it so far, Ogun state and Lagos are doing great jobs of exploiting their geographical , societal advantages, elrufai seems determined to correct the ills of his State. do something while the time is right

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Re: Onne Sea Port by Living4christ(m): 11:01am On Jan 19, 2016
raumdeuter:


Whats so special? 20M economically viable residents plus another 25million within a 3hrs drive of Lagos.

Show me anywhere that has such. People graviatate to where the market is.

Ask why every company wants to be in New York compared to Wisconsin

Let me tell u y they are there, it is becuz of established business and does business are there because of seaports , do noting special
Re: Onne Sea Port by Living4christ(m): 11:05am On Jan 19, 2016
sweetgala:


Ask all the SE traders who have moved from their base in the east to Lagos, with the high rent and cost of commerce why it is so attractive.

Ask the foreign missions and multinationals who moved their HQ to Lagos in the light of the insecurity in the ND and SE amdd North due to kidnapping and brigandry. Even with the craze NURTW have tbey have never been known to kidnap a expatriate for ransom.

Ask the numerous governors who have run Lagos from Maruwa to Ambode who know the secret to attracting internal and external investors is creating a good environment, I was shocked when my cousin who is doing rather very well in Abuja told me during weekends Abuja is empty cause everyone goes to Lagos to enjoy the fruits of their labour.

Ask the citizenry who have created an accommodating enviromr for all who come to seek the Nigerian dream of fame and fortune so long they come with good intentions.

Lagos is the centre of Nigeria, and while PH and Enugu can be fun they do not have the woaw factor Lagos has, be jealous very jealous.

I'm not even a lagosian I hate the city, it is too rowdy for me, too busy, too congested, but I appreciate the reality of things.

Stop blaming the Yoruba for taking what they had and making good gains over time, this your tribalistic excuse is getting long in the tooth. Blame the citizenry of that state for not assaulting the ills in their society, God forbid the day the son born into a good house with ancestry decenfs into the vagabond levels MEND did, destroying the pipelines and by so doing the rivers and farms their people feed off. Go find out what the Yoruba call such children

SMH. If I ask them u know wat they will say? Let me tell u wat they will say, development and it was as a result of the seaport that is there that is y many people pitch there tent there to cut expenses in logistics. So sea port is only the special reason people build shops there.
Re: Onne Sea Port by Living4christ(m): 11:09am On Jan 19, 2016
sweetgala:


America - Nigeria.

Now who is confused, do you understand the golf in our respective economies, the economy of California is bigger than that of the whole of Nigeria. We are speaking if an organised system, more ships dock and get processed at the Oakland port daily than three major countries in west africa combined.

Using the same analogy do you know how many airports and train stations America has. My good friend come back when you realise demand is relative.

Not only does America have a population that dwarfs ours, its has an economy we can not aspire to in the next 20 years unless we do 2 years of dry fasting and prayers and then hope we get lucky.

I have not said Onne is not viable or is not crucial in our national development, I've just raised some valid points why many vesel may shy away from it for now.
At present we have a FG who have an integrated plan to improve infrastructure and diversify the economy and onne is an integral part of that, we have a FG who know the rail and road system has to be in place and functional to support goods and services brought in and out of Nigeria, a FG who would not use the completion of the very necessary 2nd Niger bridge as a political leverage.

tell me one country that have access to sea that use only one sea Port

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Re: Onne Sea Port by Living4christ(m): 11:12am On Jan 19, 2016
Tequilah:


Guy, receive sense in Jesus name. shocked This issue has been debated on several threads and it has nothing to do with tribalism, and a lot to do with insecurity, and failure of SE importers to consign their goods to Onne. Shuo!!

What made it insecure? Is it not the way u handle there resources and leave them to starve? Which insecurity that can not be addressed?

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Re: Onne Sea Port by Super1Star: 11:17am On Jan 19, 2016
Living4christ:


Let me tell u y they are there, it is becuz of established business and does business are there because of seaports , do noting special

Are there no seaports in Calabar, Onne and warri?

What is this one saying?

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Re: Onne Sea Port by sweetgala(m): 11:19am On Jan 19, 2016
Living4christ:


tell me one country that have access to sea that use only one sea Port

I've never in any of my write ups advocated for use of only Lagos sea port or even insinuated that the current condition is ideal or the only option. I've only stating the facts that have bedevilled the onne sea port in particular.

Lagos has town functional ports and is adding a third as part of it's free trade zone. That is a state with a plan into the future, from Tinubu to BRF to Ambode and whomever comes after him they have a clear picture if the future they want to realise.
Re: Onne Sea Port by Living4christ(m): 11:26am On Jan 19, 2016
Super1Star:

Are there no seaports in Calabar, Onne and warri?
What is this one saying?
None can import directly becuz of FGcrippling policy.
Re: Onne Sea Port by sweetgala(m): 11:30am On Jan 19, 2016
chiefobdk:




1- Reliability and history


so funny. why build a new port if it won't be reliable.


2 - Safety


when last did u hear of a kidnapping. don't oil bearing vessel use d same water body..

people also get kidnapped in lagos and south west.



3 - Demand


if government remove bureaucracy, and other calculated effort to keep onne dysfunctional. then we can talk about demand..

You must be a joker in this same Nigeria we currently you are taking of reliability, let's just close that conversation quickly. I'm am engineer by profession and trust me I was sad with the technical deployments in many parts if Nigeria.

Concerning safety, the wise man says "the first step in solving a problem is acknowledging it's constituents and it's existence" you can keep lying to yourselves that there is no kidnappings in SE and SS , as of today a new branch of militants are attacking pipelines all the way down the Ondo axis and into lower Lagos , when the investors send a team to build a risk report they'll duly find the security issues and fail the area as inappropriate for investment or of extreme risk.

You might want to check the US consulate, and UK foreign office situation report on ND and SE, it is currently marked as not advisable for travel.

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Re: Onne Sea Port by sweetgala(m): 11:44am On Jan 19, 2016
Yanks101:
People aggravate there because it had already being made a commercial center through deliberate, shortsighted and backward leadership of our FG thereby crippling Nigeria's economic potential nearly irreparably.
It is not the other way round like you posted.

Lagos had an economic advantage no doubt, but they have made some great efforts in the last several decades to ensure that advantage is not lost. It is a competition between states and not a charity case

The real.MVP is however Ogin state who have decided to reap the rewards of proximity to Lagos as a fat growing industrial complex

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Re: Onne Sea Port by sweetgala(m): 11:48am On Jan 19, 2016
DiademSh07:

LOL!
Wetin concern FG? Na govt ask you make you no patronise am?
Ibos are just clowns!

While his sentiments don't match the reality of things, FG has a duty to investigate why Onne which they spent a lot of money on is not in demand and apply an appropriate fix.

The only losers in the inefficiency of Onne is FG who realise less revenue from there
Re: Onne Sea Port by kayfra: 11:50am On Jan 19, 2016
Living4christ:


None can import directly becuz of FGcrippling policy.

Pray tell. What policy is that?
Re: Onne Sea Port by asha80(m): 11:51am On Jan 19, 2016
sweetgala:


Lagos had an economic advantage no doubt, but they have made some great efforts in the last several decades to ensure that advantage is not lost. It is a competition between states and not a charity case

The real.MVP is however Ogin state who have decided to reap the rewards of proximity to Lagos as a fat growing industrial complex
not sure about the level playing ground for that 'competition'...moreover most of the rds in those ogun industrial axis in agbara and ibafo are in decrepit condition so I wonder the real effort of the ogun govt here and it seems more like a spill over effect of congested Lagos and companies looking for cheaper and more expansive lands to locate their industries to feed the congested lagos...more like the situation of Onitsha commerce spilling over to asaba despite the hopelessness of delta governments over the yrs

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Re: Onne Sea Port by IsraeliAIRFORCE: 12:00pm On Jan 19, 2016
sweetgala:

UK foreign office situation report on ND and SE, it is currently marked as not advisable for travel.

You deserve a month ban for violating rule No 8.

If you don't know what to say just keep quiet and stop disseminating falsehood on Nairaland
Re: Onne Sea Port by Super1Star: 12:05pm On Jan 19, 2016
Living4christ:


None can import directly becuz of FGcrippling policy.


State the exact FG policy that is crippling those ports.


How can there be a port owned by FG and FG will deliberately us its own policy to cripple it?

I am waiting for your crippling policy to be stated.

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Re: Onne Sea Port by Living4christ(m): 12:29pm On Jan 19, 2016
Super1Star:



State the exact FG policy that is crippling those ports.


How can there be a port owned by FG and FG will deliberately us its own policy to cripple it?

I am waiting for your crippling policy to be stated.

Refer to the post for better understanding.
Re: Onne Sea Port by kayfra: 12:36pm On Jan 19, 2016
Living4christ:


Refer to the post for better understanding.
Wtf! Zero substance.

Lolz

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Re: Onne Sea Port by DiademSh07: 12:53pm On Jan 19, 2016
Living4christ:

Refer to the post for better understanding.
LOL! Ibo and dullness!

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Re: Onne Sea Port by Tequilah: 1:03pm On Jan 19, 2016
Living4christ:
What made it insecure? Is it not the way u handle there resources and leave them to starve? Which insecurity that can not be addressed?

Guy, you are asking me what made it insecure? Are you a Nigerian? shocked Or have you been residing in outer space? Haven't you heard of the atrocities being committed by the Niger-Delta militants? They have refused to desist, despite all the millions pumped into the amnesty programmes and surveillance contracts that GEJ gave to try & rehabilitate them. Just recently, a gas pipeline was blown up in Escravos area. And not only that, kidnappers have also joined militants in raising the insecurity in the area.

If you know how to address the insecurity, go over there and address it and stop yarning crap on this thread.

You need to educate yourself and stop reasoning like a kid! undecided

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Re: Onne Sea Port by kayfra: 1:08pm On Jan 19, 2016
badnature:
all this ewedu people are not different from their quota system counterparts up north,so the don't know that the ZOO GOV deliberately incapacitate onne? O dear me! so it is the responsibility of igbo importers to tell vessel were to Beth .free education and quota system is more dangerous than Boko Haram

FGN directly incapacitated Onne Port by investing $300 million dollars on the port. Lolz

Please tell me you have a functioning brain or your batteries are just low.

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Re: Onne Sea Port by Living4christ(m): 2:00pm On Jan 19, 2016
Tequilah:


Guy, you are asking me what made it insecure? Are you a Nigerian? shocked Or have you been residing in outer space? Haven't you heard of the atrocities being committed by the Niger-Delta militants? They have refused to desist, despite all the millions pumped into the amnesty programmes and surveillance contracts that GEJ gave to try & rehabilitate them. Just recently, a gas pipeline was blown up in Escravos area. And not only that, kidnappers have also joined militants in raising the insecurity in the area.

If you know how to address the insecurity, go over there and address it and stop yarning crap on this thread.

You need to educate yourself and stop reasoning like a kid! undecided

What do u expect? when u are playing politics with there live.
Re: Onne Sea Port by Tequilah: 2:06pm On Jan 19, 2016
Living4christ:
What do u expect? when u are playing politics with there live.

Honestly, your clueless way of reasoning is pathetic. So you are justifying the atrocities committed by the militants and kidnappers, that has led to the insecurity in the SS?

How old are you, sef? Only juveniles reason the way you do....

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Re: Onne Sea Port by sweetgala(m): 3:32pm On Jan 19, 2016
IsraeliAIRFORCE:


You deserve a month ban for violating rule No 8.

If you don't know what to say just keep quiet and stop disseminating falsehood on Nairaland

I like doubting Thomases

Here is the what the Americans think

https://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/alertswarnings/nigeria-travel-warning.html


And the British

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/nigeria/safety-and-security

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Re: Onne Sea Port by IsraeliAIRFORCE: 3:42pm On Jan 19, 2016
sweetgala:


I like doubting Thomases

Here is the what the Americans think

https://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/alertswarnings/nigeria-travel-warning.html


And the British

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/nigeria/safety-and-security


Inter-communal violence can occur throughout Nigeria.

There is no where Southeast was mentioned

Why didn't you prefer SS/SW instead you included SE? Is Ondo not in Niger delta?
Re: Onne Sea Port by sweetgala(m): 3:57pm On Jan 19, 2016
IsraeliAIRFORCE:



There is no where Southeast was mentioned

Why didn't you prefer SS/SW instead you included SE? Is Ondo not in Niger delta?

I don't know if you want me to read and translate for you too,

This is a screenshot from the same British link above

These things exist, it does not make me happy it does, I'm a Nigerian as well, Last I checked Kanu and his ilk are still not successful and SE is part of Nigeria and therefore my home if I choose it to be so. Why would I wish bad on it out of hatred.

I'm not that type of person. The people that live there and do business there are Nigerians, what is my gain in their sufferings

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Re: Onne Sea Port by IsraeliAIRFORCE: 4:08pm On Jan 19, 2016
sweetgala:


I don't know if you want me to read and translate for you too,

This is a screenshot from the same British link above

These things exist, it does not make me happy it does, I'm a Nigerian as well, Last I checked Kanu and his ilk are still not successful and SE is part of Nigeria and therefore my home if I choose it to be so. Why would I wish bad on it out of hatred.

I'm not that type of person. The people that live there and do business there are Nigerians, what is my gain in their sufferings

You are a hypocrite. If you consider the report a gospel truth why did you not post the screenshot of this part from US State you quoted

U.S. citizen was kidnapped in Kogi state. In May 2015, two U.S. citizens were kidnapped in Ondo and Anambra states in separate incidents.

Kidnappings of foreign nationals and attacks against Nigerian police forces in Lagos state and the Niger Delta region continued to affect personal security for those traveling in these areas.

Why remove Ondo and Lagos State even Abuja wasn't left out.

We are talking about Lagos and Onne ports
Re: Onne Sea Port by Super1Star: 4:53pm On Jan 19, 2016
Living4christ:


Refer to the post for better understanding.

How does the post authenticate your dubious claim of Government crippling its own ports?
Re: Onne Sea Port by sweetgala(m): 5:54pm On Jan 19, 2016
IsraeliAIRFORCE:


You are a hypocrite. If you consider the report a gospel truth why did you not post the screenshot of this part from US State you quoted



Why remove Ondo and Lagos State even Abuja wasn't left out.

We are talking about Lagos and Onne ports

Did I ever exclude that other parts of Nigeria are absolute safe zones. The bone of contention is the safety of a particular area. And it was contested, the fact kidnappings happened in kogi has or Ondo with false foes not remove the reality of insecurity in the ND and SE

Between both of us without lying through your teeth, which of the areas would you readily associate with insecurity and brigandage

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Re: Onne Sea Port by Living4christ(m): 6:53pm On Jan 19, 2016
Tequilah:


Honestly, your clueless way of reasoning is pathetic. So you are justifying the atrocities committed by the militants and kidnappers, that has led to the insecurity in the SS?

How old are you, sef? Only juveniles reason the way you do....

If the sw pass through have of wat SS pass through u guys will pick arms, have u visited the place that feed u? when u visit the villages that gives naija oil, and see the underdevelopment u will understand.
Re: Onne Sea Port by Living4christ(m): 6:56pm On Jan 19, 2016
Super1Star:


How does the post authenticate your dubious claim of Government crippling its own ports?

How come u posted on a thread without reading it? The Op mentioned some things that makes importers not use onne port, one is the that all goods have to be cleared in Lagos which is one of the crippling policy.
Re: Onne Sea Port by Super1Star: 10:06pm On Jan 19, 2016
Living4christ:


How come u posted on a thread without reading it? The Op mentioned some things that makes importers not use onne port, one is the that all goods have to be cleared in Lagos which is one of the crippling policy.


Shows us the FG's policy that states all goods must be cleared in Lagos.

I do not understand why conducting a little research on the issue is your problem. What made the beer parlour opinion of the OP to be the correct FG's policy?

our cases are clearly of the blind leading the blind.

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