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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:59pm On Feb 06, 2016
agaugust:


Modular construction. AntiShip Missile position is on the sides by modular removal of oil spill control tanks
Well i don't know about all that, but removing the rubber duck and the emergency boat, you could easily fit 4 ASMs. Although i don't see any space for SAMs, this comes all comes back to the "fitted for but not with" issue.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ballballo: 10:09pm On Feb 06, 2016
Henry240:
Senegalese Peacekeepers

The rank on the soldier makes me think he is a Ghanaian soldier. Plus Senegalese military Como is way different.

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:12pm On Feb 06, 2016
ballballo:


The rank on the soldier makes me think he is a Ghanaian soldier. Plus Senegalese military Como is way different.

Are Ghanaian peacekeepers deployed in South-Sudan?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:18pm On Feb 06, 2016
jln115:

Judging by the photo's ive seen of Nigerias P18Ns i can't see were they can be fitted with SAMs, but i do agree they can carry up to 4 ASMs.

I wasn't referring to Nigeria's Corvettes per say, hence my use of pennants in my description. However Nigeria's Corvettes are much larger than the average Type056.


Bangladeshi Corvettes are much smaller and they pack a significant punch.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by agaugust: 10:41pm On Feb 06, 2016
MikeCZAR:
I always advise you to keep quiet if you don't know somethings.

Is the vessel "fitted for but not with" ?

Go watch 10th to 20th seconds time point on the Chinese promo video of P18N and see the oil spill control tanks, position called amidships if you dont know marine tech. Thats where the Type 056 AShM are installed. P18N now named NNS Centenary is modular and convertible from gun OPV to missile light frigate/corvette. Ask questions when you dont know things, dont be ashamed to ask, I won't laugh at you for asking to be taught what is beyond your level of knowledge, I am your friend.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuUeO0NhMhg

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 10:50pm On Feb 06, 2016
agaugust:


2. One second hand Type 039 Song Class submarine from China $120 million

.

Having one of anything is a bad idea.

Because if you divide a ships life it is

- 1 third operational
- 1 third in training
- 1 third in maintenance

That means it will be non-operational more than operational. Plus, Song class are extremely maintenance heavy... even Thailand (who have a carrier) decided that they could not operate the sub.

It would be best to continue with the corvetts, until you have 4 and then start with frigates, minimum number 3.

3 is the magic number for ships... because it means you allways have one at sea, one training/on standby and one in maintenance. Thus, you met operational, training and upkeep simultaneously. It also means you can get away with having only 2 full crews and one skeleton crew.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 10:51pm On Feb 06, 2016
agaugust:


Modular construction. Anti-Ship Missile position is on the sides by modular removal of the two oil spill control tanks located on amidships position on each hull side.

Fitted for but not with.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 10:52pm On Feb 06, 2016
jln115:

Well i don't know about all that, but removing the rubber duck and the emergency boat, you could easily fit 4 ASMs. Although i don't see any space for SAMs, this comes all comes back to the "fitted for but not with" issue.

That red life craft triggers my "military aesthetics autism".

Would it kill ya to put some freaking paint on the thing!!

wink

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 10:53pm On Feb 06, 2016
agaugust:


Go watch the Chinese promo video of P18N and see the oil spill control tanks, position called amidships if you dont know marine tech. Thats where the Type 056 AShM are installed. P18Nis modular and convertible from gun OPV to missile light frigate/corvette. Ask questions when you dont know things, dont be ashamed to ask, I wont laugh at you for asking to be taught.

No need for such an aggressive post.

Please, this is not the other thread, controll yourself.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 10:55pm On Feb 06, 2016
MikeCZAR:
Last one.

The G5 155mm howitzer.

The howitzer's Performance:

Rate of fire: 3 rounds per minute.

Range:

- VLAP rounds: 51
- Standard rounds: 31kilometres.
- Base bleeds: 41kilometres.

Able to travel up to 16kilometres per hour in level surfaces/roads.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIa0M8WS64E

That one gunners benoni accent kills me everytime grin grin grin
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 10:58pm On Feb 06, 2016
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 11:15pm On Feb 06, 2016
Henry240:



Bangladeshi Corvettes are much smaller and they pack a significant punch.

OMG

I just spent 30min reading about the Bangladeshi Navy

Pretty impressive fleet they have... perhapse a model for Nigeria?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:21pm On Feb 06, 2016
agaugust:


Your photo shows NNS Aradu anchored close to the dry dock and refitted ships. She is likely close to her turn for refit.

For NN 2016-2030, I would suggest.

1. Refitted, slightly modernized-upgraded, fully reloaded and armed as missile frigate NNS Aradu $80 million maximum cost for 15 years life span, or else brand new P18N missile armed light frigate $120 million for 30 year life span.

2. One second hand Type 039 Song Class submarine from China $120 million for 20 year life span.

Total cost $200 to $250 million for conventional warfare fleet 2016-2030. Economic reality.

The other acquisitions for the next 15 years will be OPV, MPV, IPV, logistics support/supply ships, auxillary ships, long range patrol/SAR/Interceptor and insertion helicopters AW 139 and long range cheap Niger Delta patrol Super Mushashak turboprop aircraft.

However, the navy has officially decided 2016 :

1. Potential NNS Aradu refit
2. Refit of about ten old vessels of approx 58m sizes.
2. Four brand new missile patrol boats, two units each of 24m and 35m guided missile armed fast attack crafts. Approx total cost $120 million. Paid for.
3. One brand new Landing Ship Tank, budgeted for.
4. One brand new Survey vessel, budgeted for. (Nigeria's 'EEZ' limit about to be expanded by UN, need to do new territory survey and draw new national hydrological map)
5. 100 IPVs. All paid for.
6. Wants eight long range patrol helicopters, funds not yet granted
.

1- $80 million for such an upgrade for only 15 years seems like a waste of money to me. I say we instead go for 3 new Corvettes (lionel4power sorry), the same size as our P18N class


2- I'm not a fan of submarines for the Nigerian Navy at this point. We need to work on and feel our strategic gaps. Instead let us build our ASW component, while we wait for fleet recapitalization to be completed, then we can add 3 submarines.


3 - I agree with the rest.


* Refit for the Aradu would commence soon, every other ship planned for has been completed and they are back at sea

* Point II(II), are you referring to the orders Xnurr44 talked about late last year?

*Point 6, the Navy already flies over 10 Helicopters ( 6 A109, 4 Bells and atleast 1 AW139). Additional AW139s should be the ideal purchase or AgustaWestland Lynx.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:35pm On Feb 06, 2016
patches689:


OMG

I just spent 30min reading about the Bangladeshi Navy

Pretty impressive fleet they have... perhapse a model for Nigeria?

Exactly!


Very impressive fleet they have. I mean for a country most people haven't even heard of, they certainly know how to bite if threatened. I was surprised at their fleet.


I love their locally built OPVs, and they have 5 of these in service. (Photo attached)

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:43pm On Feb 06, 2016
Tanzanian Troops

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:07am On Feb 07, 2016
SAAF Gripen D

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:13am On Feb 07, 2016
"Love comes in all shapes
and sizes. In this case a Beryl."


Nigerian Army Commando

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:23am On Feb 07, 2016
patches689:


That red life craft triggers my "military aesthetics autism".

Would it kill ya to put some freaking paint on the thing!!

wink
Think they were removed when they entered service with the NN.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:31am On Feb 07, 2016
Henry240:


I wasn't referring to Nigeria's Corvettes per say, hence my use of pennants in my description. However Nigeria's Corvettes are much larger than the average Type056.


Bangladeshi Corvettes are much smaller and they pack a significant punch.
The Bangladeshi Corvettes don't have a hanger, were as the Nigerian variant does, that's one of the reasons the Nigerian variant is larger.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:39am On Feb 07, 2016
Henry240:


1- $80 million for such an upgrade for only 15 years seems like a waste of money to me. I say we instead go for 3 new Corvettes (lionel4power sorry), the same size as our P18N class


2-I'm not a fan of submarines for the Nigerian Navy at this point. We need to work on and feel our strategic gaps. Instead let us build our ASW component, while we wait for fleet recapitalization to be completed, then we can add 3 submarines.


3 - I agree with the rest.


* Refit for the Aradu would commence soon, every other ship planned for has been completed and they are back at sea

* Point II(II), are you referring to the orders Xnurr44 talked about late last year?

*Point 6, the Navy already flies over 10 Helicopters ( 6 A109, 4 Bells and atleast 1 AW139). Additional AW139s should be the ideal purchase or AgustaWestland Lynx.
Although I agree somewhat, I still feel if you guys have the funds you should definitely consider acquiring at least 3 subs, they are a massive force multiplier. I don't know much about Nigerian waters, but our waters are absolutely perfect for Diesel subs, just ask NATO!!
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by stillchris: 12:52am On Feb 07, 2016
patches689:


No need for such an aggressive post.

Please, this is not the other thread, controll yourself.

don't be a hypocrite. you should direct your comment at @mikeza

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:59am On Feb 07, 2016
patches689:
Random
I would love to see a few cockpit pics of the Drummer 2 upgraded Oryx!
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ballballo: 3:02am On Feb 07, 2016
Henry240:


Are Ghanaian peacekeepers deployed in South-Sudan?
YES THEY ARE

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ballballo: 3:06am On Feb 07, 2016
1.GHANA PEACEKEEPING IN SOUTH SUDAN
2.GHANA PEACEKEEPING IN SOUTH SUDAN
3.UN PEACEKEEPING IN LEBANON
4.SOUTH SUDAN

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ballballo: 3:11am On Feb 07, 2016
GH
1
2 PEACEKEEPING- SAHRAWI DEMOCRATIC ARAB REPUBLIC
3. LEBANON MAN LOVE HIS DOG
4.CAMBODIA.

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZAR: 6:13am On Feb 07, 2016
agaugust:


Go watch 10th to 20th seconds time point on the Chinese promo video of P18N and see the oil spill control tanks, position called amidships if you dont know marine tech. Thats where the Type 056 AShM are installed. P18Nis modular and convertible from gun OPV to missile light frigate/corvette. Ask questions when you dont know things, dont be ashamed to ask, I wont laugh at you for asking to be taught what is beyond your level of knowledge, I am your friend.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuUeO0NhMhg

Is the ship "Fitted for but not with"? The answer is no.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZAR: 7:13am On Feb 07, 2016
patches689:


That one gunners benoni accent kills me everytime grin grin grin
We call it the South African accent now. grin grin grin grin
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:50am On Feb 07, 2016
kenya special forces

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:53am On Feb 07, 2016
African countries participating in the Indian navy's International Fleet Review 2016

*Nigeria

*South-Africa

*Kenya

*Namibia

*Egypt

*Sudan

*Somalia

*Seychelles

*Djibouti

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:56am On Feb 07, 2016
kenyan special forces

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:07am On Feb 07, 2016
A remotely-controlled robot of the Kenya Defence Forces (KDF) examines a suspect vehicle which was found to be a vehicle borne IED in the Changamwe area of Mombasa, Kenya

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 10:10am On Feb 07, 2016
africaken:
kenyan special forces

you see the guy in the center of the picture?

10 internets to the guy who can tell me what he has done wrong

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