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Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by triplewisdom: 10:41am On Feb 09, 2016 |
lovings: 1 Like |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by YonkijiSappo: 10:43am On Feb 09, 2016 |
iHustle: Who told you Oduduwa has no meaning in the Yoruba Language, there are MANY MANY names that begin with Odu in Yoruba, examples Odumakin, Odufuwa, Odusola, Odubiyi, Odutola etc. Odu in Yoruba means the Mysteries of Ifa divination. The Ifa corpus is even called "ODU IFA" Oduduwa is Odu da Iwa.... The mysteries that makes behaviour. Contracted to 'ODUDUWA" , as per the rules of many African languages when vowels follow in a word. Keep lying to yourselves in that Benin.... first one Bini guy said It was Izoduwa, now, you are saying Imadoduwa.....lol.... next name you people will call him is Ogisoduwa. Imado ko, Antelope ni. Keep twisting it.... twist that history very well. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by triplewisdom: 10:43am On Feb 09, 2016 |
Biafrarep: 2 Likes |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by IME1: 10:44am On Feb 09, 2016 |
so this beautiful day in Nigeria we cannot live in peace and harmony? what shall it profit a man if where he comes from is superior to his neighbour's? or what shall a man give in return from the fact that he was born into a group he chose not? whoever caused this 7 pages so far thread that has caused so much hate posts and incorrect historical facts and unnecessary superiority complex should not be happy because those commenting (myself inclusive) would have used our time, energy and internet access to better life and ensure unity. Coincidentally i read Ephesians 4:1-6 this morning which urges unity, tolerance and love! oh yes love! afterall Binis marry Yorubas & vice versa. So also do they interact in schools, jobs, sports, commerce & even entertainment. Lets live in peace! PS: don't waste your time in gossip, strife, bullying, abusing or ridiculing! 2 Likes |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by FuckTheMod: 10:44am On Feb 09, 2016 |
clefstone:Dumb! So oba of Benin doesn't use any of the modern inventions? People grow up... |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by absoluteSuccess: 10:44am On Feb 09, 2016 |
Omeny:Great, Please what does omo stand for in Edo language? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by fejikudz(m): 10:53am On Feb 09, 2016 |
HartIse:seconded 1 Like |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by aoshi: 10:53am On Feb 09, 2016 |
emmanuelpopson:Oga, do not speak on things you don't know. There is nothing like erediuawa II for a start. Have you read any book on the Benin empire? Why is a country named after Benin (pronounced bene, why is that?) Have you read/heard the Binis' version of the Oranmiyan story? Please do that. Hearing from both sides helps. What's with the the squabble between the Alaafin and Ooni? |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by YonkijiSappo: 10:55am On Feb 09, 2016 |
absoluteSuccess: Hhahaha, I would be surprised if he comes here and gives you an answer that does not have to do with the Yoruba language. 1 Like |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by Dbisector(m): 10:56am On Feb 09, 2016 |
This call for history review, and I asked how many king and kingsmen truly know this history of thier very own native or others, most of them don't have interest or never growup here. |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by aoshi: 10:57am On Feb 09, 2016 |
YonkijiSappo: Like twisting that Oduduwa came from the sky with a cock and sand ba? Then, he came from Egypt, then from the middle east. I wonder if there are black princes in the middle east? 1 Like |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by forgiveness: 10:58am On Feb 09, 2016 |
comos: Now, let's go to the Oldest Empires in West Africa. Remember, i said Empires not kingdom hence i removed the kingdoms on the list. The Oyo Empire (1400–1895) was a West African empire of what is today western Nigeria. The empire was established by the Yoruba in the 15th century and grew to become one of the largest West African states encountered by colonial explorers. It rose to preeminence through wealth gained from trade and its possession of a powerful cavalry. The Oyo Empire was the most politically important state in the region from the mid-17th to the late 18th century, holding sway not only over other Yoruba states, but also over the Fon kingdom of Dahomey (located in the state now known as the Republic of Benin). Benin Empire (1440–1897), a large pre-colonial African state of modern Nigeria. The Kingdom of Dahomey (1600–1900) was a West African kingdom in part of modern Benin Kaabu Empire (1537–1867), a Mandinka Kingdom of Senegambia (centered on modern northeastern Guinea-Bissau but extending into Casamance, Senegal) that rose to prominence in the region thanks to its origins as a former province of the Mali Empire. After the decline of the Mali Empire, Kaabu became an independent kingdom. Asante Union (1701–1894), a pre-colonial West African state of what is now the Ashanti Region in Ghana. The empire stretched from central Ghana to present day Togo and Côte d'Ivoire, bordered by the Sahelian Dagomba kingdom to the north (a sub-state of the Mossi), and Dahomey to the east. Today, the Ashanti monarchy continues as one of the constitutionally protected, sub-national traditional states within the Republic of Ghana. Kong Empire (1710–1894) centered in north eastern Côte d'Ivoire that also encompassed much of present-day Burkina Faso. Bamana Empire (1712–1896) based at Ségou, now in Mali. It was ruled by the Kulubali or Coulibaly dynasty established c. 1640 by Fa Sine also known as Biton-si-u. The empire existed as a centralized state from 1712 to the 1861 invasion of Toucouleur conqueror El Hadj Umar Tall. Sokoto Caliphate (1804–1903), an Islamic empire in Nigeria, led by the Sultan of Sokoto, Sa’adu Abubakar. Founded during the Fulani Jihad in the early 19th century, it was one of the most powerful empires in sub-Saharan Africa prior to European conquest and colonization. The caliphate remained extant through the colonial period and afterwards, though with reduced power. Republic of Liberia. Toucouleur Empire (1848–1893), established as a jihadist stete bu Al hajj Umar Tall in present Mali, upon the conquest of the kingdoms of Segu and Masina. Wassoulou Empire (1878–1898), a short-lived empire of built from the conquests of Dyula ruler Samori Ture and destroyed by the French colonial army. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_kingdoms_in_pre-colonial_Africa 1 Like
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Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by YonkijiSappo: 11:00am On Feb 09, 2016 |
aoshi: That is not twisted history, that is the Yoruba myth of creation, where the world started in Ile-Ife. Same way christians and Muslims believe the myth that Adam and Eve were the first humans created somewhere in first Garden which started in the middle East by God. And other world cultures also have theirs. What is the Bini myth of Creation? , and why does Ogiso mean "Sky King" ..... which is strikingly similar to the original Yoruba account? loool.... this guy does not know his own story. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by honvalid(m): 11:05am On Feb 09, 2016 |
I agreed. |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by Segekesy(m): 11:07am On Feb 09, 2016 |
NOETHNICITY:Yoruba's never forcefully attach anybody to itself do you know that in the same bini today there are some indigene still claiming to be yoruba forget about what this chief is saying, if you doubting me go to bini and verify, secondly go to Kogi state today the Okun's will tell you they are 100% from Yoruba's , maybe after 50years when they have gained dominance the same people will come to tell us that they are not from yoruba's they may even claim yoruba originated from Okunland. Somebody asked a question here that why do bini before now buried their dead kings in ile-ife? 2 Likes |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by fireforfire: 11:08am On Feb 09, 2016 |
Oba atokpeye.... iseeeeee!!!!! Long live d oba of benin. Na u we sabi... any oda Oba is a counterfeit esp d "oba of lagoon" 1 Like |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by Josh316(m): 11:08am On Feb 09, 2016 |
AnnaKareninaFan: TEACH THEM..... SCHOOL THEM.... We need to revive history lessons in Nigeria so that we can always speak the truth regardless. Till then, we will keep telling lies to our children and grand-children |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by aoshi: 11:09am On Feb 09, 2016 |
YonkijiSappo: Clap for yourself. You replied intelligently right? |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by YonkijiSappo: 11:11am On Feb 09, 2016 |
[size=14pt]Heads of Former Benin Monarchs Were Actually Buried in Ile- Ife, Says Prince Isede[/size] PRINCE Michael Isede, a grand son of the last Ogiso of Benin Kingdom and deputy national chairman, Community Development Committee of Oil Producing Communities in Delta State, says heads of former Benin monarchs were buried in Ife.http://allafrica.com/stories/200405100888.html There you have it folks...... actual history corroborated by a true son of an Ogiso... Not all these modern born Benin history twisters that know nothing of their actual past. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by Nobody: 11:11am On Feb 09, 2016 |
chowlade:u don't know what u re saying, d Benin tradition is unique, d most respected & its no second to any in d country... plus if u must know, there re only two kingdom recognized in d world.. Benin kingdom & united kingdom 2 Likes |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by Josh316(m): 11:12am On Feb 09, 2016 |
forgiveness: Good one! Let us start the movement to revive history so that our heritage will never be lost. I am for the true revival of unadulterated Nigerian History and we need to ensure it is preserved. |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by Nobody: 11:12am On Feb 09, 2016 |
chowlade:u don't know what u re saying, d Benin tradition is unique, d most respected & its no second to any in d country... plus if u must know, there re only two kingdoms recognized in d world.. Benin kingdom & united kingdom |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by forgiveness: 11:15am On Feb 09, 2016 |
the Bini chiefs, who had earlier requested for spiritual and political direction from Ife after the death of Ogiso Owodo of Igodomigodo were led by Oranmiyan. He however met opposition from the kin of the Ogiso, and was refused entrance into the City. Oranmiyan camped at a place called Uselu. His foreign style management didn't go down well with the chiefs and they usually spied on him, all this made Oranmiyan declare that only a son of the soil can cope with the attitude of the Igodomigodo people and called the land "Ile - Ibinu" meaning Land of Vexation. On leaving Ile-Ibinu(later Ibini, and corrupted to "Benin" by the Portuguese), he stopped briefly at Ego where he had an affair with Erinwide, the daughter of the Enogie(Duke), Eweka I was the result of this affair but by now Oranmiyan was far away never to return. His foreign style means? Benin means, Ile ibinu( ile= land, ibinu= Anger/vexation) in Yoruba language. Or is it also that also meaning in Bini language https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oranyan |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by MrPresident1: 11:19am On Feb 09, 2016 |
This thread pains me to the bones for the quantum of ignorance in it. 'Yoruba' is a mighty tree under which shade a lot of God's creatures find peace and accommodation. For reasons of political expediency, as I so strenuously warned in a thread before, so many issues should remain in the background perpetually, so many people will not be happy with the truth, if you find it, please preserve society, and then point the way to any seeker who is looking for knowledge, you point the way, you do not break the secret. The true seeker will eventually find truth. When elders attempt to interpret symbols literally, they will kindle the fire that will burn the world. 5 Likes |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by whytfaz(m): 11:19am On Feb 09, 2016 |
Don't be dumb Binis aren't part of yorubas read history instead of jumping like senseless E-diots, the modern day Benin was known as igodomingodo, the last igodo died without. An heir and women were forbidden from ruling, they heard a land was prospering and peaceful so they sent some chiefs to Ile ife to tell oduduwa to come and be their Igodo or Ogiso, he sent his son Oranmiyan when Oranmiyan came he married aa beautiful lady saw the land was full of angry people, in annoyance he name it ile-ibinu, meaning land of anger,the people of the land didn't know what it meant but with time it translated to "Bini". Oranmiyan said only a person born in the land could rule them he had a son. After he left and his son was grown he took the title of "Eweka 1" that's how the name Ogodomingodo was changed to Bini and modern day Benin, the Bini Dynasty never came from yoruba but was somehow related, even Oranmiyan knew tthe land was different from any he had ever been in he went back and became. The ooni of ife, the Bini people are normally filled with pride so issues like this will normally. Annoy them also like that cow that called us biafra we don't have any ties with them either we are one unique set of people love it or hate it. |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by seunajia: 11:20am On Feb 09, 2016 |
tayooluwole: A ma wa se nkan bayii o Did you read what that guy wrote? He said the names with Oba prefix only came to existence in Yorubaland in the 50s. Yet he mentioned Obasanjo and Obafemi that were born years and years before. Learn to read and comprehend, you hear? Now gerout! |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by NOETHNICITY(m): 11:20am On Feb 09, 2016 |
Segekesy:Although, am not Benin but I lived in Benin my whole life and unless u show us those tribes in benin that they re Yorubas am yet to see any! Maybe u re mistakingly referring to pple in Owan areas sharing bother with ondo state and pple in Akoko Edo area also bothering ondo! Those tribes are not Benins and even though some of them speak Yoruba they still ve their own languages and culture which is non yoruba! Okun pple proudly claim to be yoruba because they re Yorubas! I understnd a bit of Benin and Yoruba langauge and they re completely different! 1 Like |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by comos: 11:21am On Feb 09, 2016 |
FuckTheMod: in the poo |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by forgiveness: 11:21am On Feb 09, 2016 |
Josh316: You are right. We only need to know the truth. For this our country, i don't think our Government is thinking about it. |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by nisai: 11:22am On Feb 09, 2016 |
Anje ekuru kotan oba Alaka tun gban owo re sawo.I wonder what made him to spew such rubbish at a time like this that we all are praying for unity amongst the yorubas.Some obas can't just restrain their mouth.Imagine, ranking himself among the top five obas. 1 Like |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by JIGHU(m): 11:22am On Feb 09, 2016 |
BROS omo n'oba DOES NOT MEAN THE DESCENDANT OF OBA .....STOP THE FUCKERY, ASK FOR THE MEANING AND DONT BE IGNORANT.....IT MEANS the CHILD WHO BECAME KING OPCNAIRALAND: 1 Like 1 Share |
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