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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by saintfizzo(m): 10:10am On Feb 11, 2016
Tunami:
the binis are saying that there is nothing like oba in yorubaland but its a lie because even before they start using the title (oba) people are already answering the name. Sango's second wife's name name is Oba who according to history turned into a river in IWOLAND.
. Bro the pronunciation is different,Oba (sango's wife) is pronounced with the intonation signs "re" "do", while oba (king) is pronounced with signs "re" "re"....

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by ritababe(f): 10:10am On Feb 11, 2016
MrPresident1:


Stop hyperventilating. Let the Oba of Benin come out and say he is not part of the house of Oduduwa.

You people don't know any history, the wise Ooni has avoided using the word 'Yoruba' which is the cause of the whole controversy.

Let Oba of Benin come out and say he is not Oduduwa and this matter will rest forever!

why will he say that when oduduwa your first king was a bini man.

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by Elxandre(m): 10:11am On Feb 11, 2016
martineinstein:
Ooni is too young to start unnecessary controversy...the monarch that almost colonized almost the entire southern Nigeria(from Lagos to kogi to bayelsa) and part of middle belt is now under u?.. If not for British punitive expedition of 1896,ooni would have been conquered by oba of Benin....
many first class monarchs are under oba of Benin,especially oba of Lagos,obi of onitsha,asagba of asaba,olu of Warri,dein of agbo etc. Even the traditional bands of Lagos,'eko' is a bini word....ooni should go and rest joor

Oba agha t'okpe e!....ise!
Hi,
Are you Martineverest?
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by Ricmayak1: 10:11am On Feb 11, 2016
This is how they gradually start war. When the heat is on them, they start crying innocence all over.

Share/Tsaragi comes to mind.

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by shamecurls(m): 10:13am On Feb 11, 2016
Remii:



Full title of Oba of Benin is His Royal Majesty [b]Omo n'Oba
n'Edo Uku Akpolokpolo Erediauwa.

Omo Oba, a prince, child of the king. Historically, Eweka 1 was a son of Oranmiyan.
[/b]
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by Gassa007: 10:13am On Feb 11, 2016
Wendyslim:
Most of dem speak yoruba fluently better than some yoruba born self
Cos they grew up in the West.Yoruba is not their language

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by ijebu2020: 10:13am On Feb 11, 2016
OZAOEKPE:
LIKE THIS 'OWANMBE' KING WAN KPEME, HOW DARE YOU CHALLENGE THE GREAT OBA OF BENIN. THE OBA OF BENIN IS NOT LIKE OTHER OBAS THAT THRIVE ON BRIBES, AND THAT MAKES HIS 'JUJU' SO POTENT THAT EVEN THE ONI OF IFE CAN BE 'GUNNED DOWN' BY THE GREAT OBA OF BENIN.

Mr Man. try to talk and make sense so in your own mind..only your OBA OF BENIN has juju..this is one bad thing about you Benins.you guys always think that you got juju and all those fettish things..let me tell you if you dont know you only know your worth and what you have but you dont know what others have okay. So keep shut and stop spewing bad bad thngs frm ur mouth.
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by erusen: 10:14am On Feb 11, 2016
johnydon22:
bro me am lost here ooo.. I am Igbo, so I have no idea what's really the matter..

I think they need to clerify things for us who know neither versions of the stories being peddled
,the ooni is trying to claim say Benin is part of Yoruba hierarchy, I have a fair knowledge about the heritage and history of my people, but I think is the Oba of Benin(he is presently not with us,he has gone to the great land of his ancestors) office's that will have to come out and have a final say in this issue,but I do know that eko is a bini language,and that before the 50's there was nothing like oba of Lagos it was called elekko of Lagos,around 1898 or so it was the Europeans that came to the rescue of Yoruba labd being invaded by Oba of Benin,Benin had a much larger empire that was submissive to Oba of Benin until it broke of to many other tribes in the south south today,so this ooni must be looking for a hell lot of trouble with his mouth,we binis are famous for having a short temper oh,even the majority of Bini consider the yorubas here in Edo state as dirty people, I hope I didn't offend any body oh.

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by blazetitov: 10:15am On Feb 11, 2016
wiseoneking:
It was initially a benin prince (who was banished from benin) that was the first oni of ife. He was later wanted back to benin to take over the kingship of benin but he refused and send his son who was later made king. He is saying that all direct decendant of oni of ife are actually sons of Benin. We all know that Benin Kingdom and its Obaship cannot be compare with any other.

Thanks. What is the name of the Benin prince that was banished from Benin?
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by tuscani: 10:17am On Feb 11, 2016
The superiority of Oba of Benin is not disputable. No governor politician or president is involved in crowning the Oba of Benin. Oba of Benin is Chosen by God , it is by birth.

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by brownlord: 10:17am On Feb 11, 2016
pulsa:


you learnt metal works from us.

metal what?

So you rather believe oduduwa Fell from heaven/sky with a bag of soil that's spread across the face of the earth than he was a prince in Benin who got banished and wandered into the forest, right?


Was earth without form and void, water everywhere and the inhabitant lived like fish before oduduwa came and transformed everyone to human?

Why not think along the line, that the bini prince got banished from Benin and went into the forest, discovered by Yorubas and then regarded him as God sent and made him king than the tales of how he fell from sky with soil and all trash you are fed with.

As a child, there was always a saying that "Oba owns the land from here to oversea" I kept wondering in my ignorance then how it was possible. It got to a stage before I said to myself what they actually meant was in every country, state or town was first ruled by an Oba before other forms of government was introduced.

oduduwa falling from sky and other stories you are fed with that made you believe he's descendant was sent to Benin doesn't make sense any sane person than a prince banished from Benin and found in another region and was regarded as god since and then made oba

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by OBAGADAFFI: 10:17am On Feb 11, 2016
The Edo people don't seem to know their history.

Igodomigodo was the first name before Benin.
Who changed it to Benin

Ogisos was the title before is was changed to Oba.
Who changed the king title to Oba.

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by tuscani: 10:18am On Feb 11, 2016
Tunami:
the binis are saying that there is nothing like oba in yorubaland but its a lie because even before they start using the title (oba) people are already answering the name. Sango's second wife's name name is Oba who according to history turned into a river in the present day IWOLAND.
The superiority of Oba of Benin is not disputable. No governor politician or president is involved in crowning the Oba of Benin. Oba of Benin is Chosen by God , it is by birth.
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by Jesusloveyou: 10:18am On Feb 11, 2016
blazetitov:

“The Ooni of Ife, by historical facts, is a son of the Oba of Benin, so they are not in the same class".

How can the guy from benin be contradicting himself by saying the Ooni of Ife was a son of the Oba of Benin and at the same time saying that the Oba of Benin stool has no relationship with the Yoruba race. I don't get it.
a simple question to settle dis rift,- before dividing d country into region then state, who was d head of d empire, - benin kingdom(empire) and yoruba kingdom or empire, we are only aware of benin kingdom,nothing like yoruba kingdom, benin kingdom extende from ondo to onitsha, and is because of sharing into region and state that reduce d benin empire, in Ooni of ife view- because benin were group into western region that makes he think benin is under yoruba empire, for ur information we only had benin kingdom which extend to lagos and cotonou even togo, d president of togo bears bini name

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by FuckTheMod: 10:18am On Feb 11, 2016
[s]
OZAOEKPE:
LIKE THIS 'OWANMBE' KING WAN KPEME, HOW DARE YOU CHALLENGE THE GREAT OBA OF BENIN. THE OBA OF BENIN IS NOT LIKE OTHER OBAS THAT THRIVE ON BRIBES, AND THAT MAKES HIS 'JUJU' SO POTENT THAT EVEN THE ONI OF IFE CAN BE 'GUNNED DOWN' BY THE GREAT OBA OF BENIN.
[/s]
Ode

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by Blackkie: 10:19am On Feb 11, 2016
7th day christening of babies is practiced all in the East and South South also.
The pagans do it so also christians.

columbus007:
D battle of supremacy,well all I can tell as a bini born is that both yorubas and d binis share same common cultures and traditons,take for instance if a child Is born it takes 7days for christening same as yorubas,bt not wit other tribes,we av so much in common,lets admit all these and embrace peaceful co-existence,the earth is of the Lord and it's fullness thereof,let no man drag nothg by no means undecided

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by tuscani: 10:19am On Feb 11, 2016
Tunami:
the binis are saying that there is nothing like oba in yorubaland but its a lie because even before they start using the title (oba) people are already answering the name. Sango's second wife's name name is Oba who according to history turned into a river in the present day IWOLAND.
The superiority of Oba of Benin is not disputable. No governor politician or president is involved in crowning the Oba of Benin. Oba of Benin is Chosen by God , it is by birth.
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by brownlord: 10:20am On Feb 11, 2016
pulsa:

Benin's are not part of the Yoruba land, but they are part of the oduduwa ( odu-to-da-iwa) dynasty; which created the Yoruba race.

Izoduwa I know, oduduwa I know not
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by ritababe(f): 10:21am On Feb 11, 2016
free2blast:
More active than the oba benin that have been like a statue in his palace.

is better for him to remain in his palace and protect the culture of bini people than to go outside and be ranting nonsense just like Oni of Ife.

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by OBAGADAFFI: 10:21am On Feb 11, 2016
erusen:
,the ooni is trying to claim say Benin is part of Yoruba hierarchy, I have a fair knowledge about the heritage and history of my people, but I think is the Oba of Benin(he is presently not with us,he has gone to the great land of his ancestors) office's that will have to come out and have a final say in this issue,but I do know that eko is a bini language,and that before the 50's there was nothing like oba of Lagos it was called elekko of Lagos,around 1898 or so it was the Europeans that came to the rescue of Yoruba labd being invaded by Oba of Benin,Benin had a much larger empire that was submissive to Oba of Benin until it broke of to many other tribes in the south south today,so this ooni must be looking for a hell lot of trouble with his mouth,we binis are famous for having a short temper oh,even the majority of Bini consider the yorubas here in Edo state as dirty people, I hope I didn't offend any body oh.

And there was noting like Oba, in benin kingdom.

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by Blackkie: 10:21am On Feb 11, 2016
Everyone will wait for the Bini Kingdom to reply them officially.
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by pulsa(m): 10:21am On Feb 11, 2016
brownlord:


metal what?

So you rather believe oduduwa Fell from heaven/sky with a bag of soil that's spread across the face of the earth than he was a prince in Benin who got banished and wandered into the forest, right?


Was earth without form and void, water everywhere and the inhabitant lived like fish before oduduwa came and transformed everyone to human?

Why not think along the line, that the bini prince got banished from Benin and went into the forest, discovered by Yorubas and then regarded him as God sent and made him king than they tales of how he felt from sky with soil and all trash you are fed with.

As a child, there was always a saying that "Oba owns the land from here to oversea" I kept wondering in my ignorance then how it was possible. It got to a stage before I said to myself what they actually met was in every country, state or town was first ruled by an Oba before other forms of government was introduced.

oduduwa falling from sky and other stories you are fed with that made you believe he's descendant was sent to Benin doesn't make sense any sane person than a prince banished from Benin and found in another region and was regarded as god sent since and then made oba
dude what did I say and what are you saying, I said you learnt metal works from us, check out for yourself the head of ice bronze work which predated any metal works in Benin.
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by bluaero(m): 10:23am On Feb 11, 2016
JoeBlocks:
I await the Oba of Benin response to this.

If you think the Oba of Benin will respond to this, you are wasting your time. The throne of the Oba of Benin is obviously too sacred and belongs to only one family. Hence we already know who the next Oba will be. The Ooni of ife is just a comic political appointment picked by governors and politicians of yoruba land. Benin kingdom has a well documented history for your information.

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by pulsa(m): 10:23am On Feb 11, 2016
Jesusloveyou:
a simple question to settle dis rift,- before dividing d country into region then state, who was d head of d empire, - benin kingdom(empire) and yoruba kingdom or empire, we are only aware of benin kingdom,nothing like yoruba kingdom, benin kingdom extende from ondo to onitsha, and is because of sharing into region and state that reduce d benin empire, in Ooni of ife view- because benin were group into western region that makes he think benin is under yoruba empire, for ur information we only had benin kingdom which extend to lagos and cotonou even togo, d president of togo bears bini name

check out the "Oyo empire" before spewing your ignorance.
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by pulsa(m): 10:26am On Feb 11, 2016
brownlord:


Izoduwa I know, oduduwa I know not
what difference does that make he chose the Oyo empire to rule over and sent his son to rule over the Benin empire
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by ritababe(f): 10:26am On Feb 11, 2016
Ricmayak1:
This is how they gradually start war. When the heat is on them, they start crying innocence all over.

Share/Tsaragi comes to mind.

exactly, they know how to start war and when the war start they start crying for help.
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by Olabestonic001(m): 10:27am On Feb 11, 2016
Christane:
I even thought dz young ooni wat enlighten enough nw z here talkn abt wat e dnt knw ...d ancient benin kingdom z d most legendary and respected monarhical empire world wide ..even d queen of england no reach oba of benin ..nt to talk of ordinary Ooni making false accusation dat edo state z forge from yoruba land thru oduduwa ...edo have their own language lyk bini,esan,estako,auchi etc etc ...i knw sum yoruba reside in benin bt i dnt knw hw dy get their ...bt d oba of benin as z own class nd cant b match by any king in d world nt to talk of a yoruba king ...

But if we look it critically, why does Binis speaks Yoruba but Yoruba's cant speak a bit of Benin?
In Yorubaland, Oba means "the One in charge", can someone tell me the meaning in Benin?
Why do Bini borrowed tradition such as worshiping from Yorubaland but Yoruba don't?
Why does Yoruba have a far-spread than Bini?
We should ask sincere and serious questions.
In all reality, the Esogan saying they've nothing to do with Yoruba's and still claiming that the Ooni was a descendant of Bini is very contradictory.
And lets all know that The Ooni is the traditional Head of the Yoruba race worldwide even up to some Brazilian's Yoruba's and why claim seniority if you're truly senior? Ooni should just continue in his process of uniting the Yorubas.

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by erusen: 10:27am On Feb 11, 2016
OBAGADAFFI:
The Edo people don't seem to know their history.

Igodomigodo was the first name before Benin.
Who changed it to Benin

Ogisos was the title before is was changed to Oba.
Who changed the king title to Oba.
your first Yoruba king was a banished prince from bini kingdom,ogiso was change to oba like 500 years ago,elleko of Lagos was changed to oba of lagos around1950

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by ritababe(f): 10:29am On Feb 11, 2016
blazetitov:


Thanks. What is the name of the Benin prince that was banished from Benin?

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by pulsa(m): 10:29am On Feb 11, 2016
Jesusloveyou:
a simple question to settle dis rift,- before dividing d country into region then state, who was d head of d empire, - benin kingdom(empire) and yoruba kingdom or empire, we are only aware of benin kingdom,nothing like yoruba kingdom, benin kingdom extende from ondo to onitsha, and is because of sharing into region and state that reduce d benin empire, in Ooni of ife view- because benin were group into western region that makes he think benin is under yoruba empire, for ur information we only had benin kingdom which extend to lagos and cotonou even togo, d president of togo bears bini name
the president of Benin republic bears a Yoruba name and is a Yoruba man, there are Yoruba kings in Benin republic, and there are far more Yoruba's in Togo than there are Benin's there I.e adebayo the Togolese striker.

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by brownlord: 10:30am On Feb 11, 2016
pulsa:

what difference does that make he chose the Oyo empire to rule over and sent his son to rule over the Benin empire

He said what?
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by JoeBlocks(m): 10:30am On Feb 11, 2016
bluaero:


If you think the Oba of Benin will respond to this, you are wasting your time. The throne of the Oba of Benin is obviously too sacred and belongs to only one family. Hence we already know who the next Oba will be. The Ooni of ife is just a comic political appointment picked by governors and politicians of yoruba land. Benin kingdom has a well documented history for your information.
LMFAO.

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