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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by AlPeter: 11:52pm On Feb 11, 2016
waleola09:

The first ogiso is Igodo, I delibrately showed you those two pictures of Statue Known as the child of Obatala(Oba-tala) and the Egyptian god Bes so you can see the plain similarity between the two and to let you know that even before any Ogiso or whatever the word Oba has been a Yoruba word except you want to tell me the Ogiso dynasty predates the Egyptans,
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_Ogiso list of the Ogisos Note; the first is known as Oba Igodo or Igodo. Igodo means 'Brightly' Oba Igodo means 'shines Brightly' Note also the 28th Ogiso was Ogiso ODUWA.
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by AlPeter: 12:00am On Feb 12, 2016
nairaimporter:


Omo oba ni edo means the son of the king that now resides in edo.

Oduduwa had 7 sons, one of them went to bini to become king.
that's Yoruba translating but am giving you the Benin meaning which is the real one since ITS A BENIN TITLE.

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by waleola09: 12:00am On Feb 12, 2016
AlPeter:
i never denied the presence of Olokun in Ife, what am telling you is that Olokun was introduced to your people by prince Ekalarderhan. Olokun is regarded as the favorite son of Osalobua, God, in Benin mythology which had been, long before Oduduwa. BTW answer my question. That OLOKUN FACE LOOK MORE LIKE AN ORA PERSON'S FACE
The other time you asked me to use google to search for the name of the first Ogiso which I did and I gave you the answer to be Igodo and not Oba. Now I believe google is your friend too, so I'll like you to search for Olokun on google and see for yourself if it's an indigenous Yoruba orisha or not. And for your information sir, Olokun is not a man/son by gender she's a female goddess so it's obvious she's not the favorite son of Osalobua as you stated. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olokun. Good night and happy night rest.
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by Charlesdock(m): 12:03am On Feb 12, 2016
With the way you guys dey drag mata we would need to wake these our ancestor up oo to let them tell us the truth. Oya Oduduwa where are thou wake up by fire! grin .

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by waleola09: 12:08am On Feb 12, 2016
Charlesdock:
With the way you guys dey drag mata we would need to wake these our ancestor up oo to let them tell us the truth. Oya Oduduwa where are thou wake up by fire! grin .
Abeg no kill me with laugh oh. Me am just caughting fun here as this thing dey go ni jare.

Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by AlPeter: 12:09am On Feb 12, 2016
waleola09:

The other time you asked me to use google to search for the name of the first Ogiso which I did and I gave you the answer to be Igodo and not Oba. Now I believe google is your friend too, so I'll like you to search for Olokun on google and see for yourself if it's an indigenous Yoruba orisha or not. And for your information sir, Olokun is not a man/son by gender she's a female goddess so it's obvious she's not the favorite son of Osalobua as you stated. Good night and happy night rest.
read my reply to the other guy. I am talking the Benin MYTH HERE about the Olokun. BTW check the name of first Ogiso properly. Secondly, I know both Traditions of Benin and Yoruba. If you want me to I can twist the Yoruba myth to collaborate with The Greek and Norse legends.
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by hotwax: 6:40am On Feb 12, 2016
temmytaryour:
https://z-1-scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/12715317_469667533220022_5047731796138533610_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoiYiJ9&oh=9b115f2782cb70aadf5475e90d177662&oe=576B7337

Thank you. The benin idots can shutup now.

When we tender artifact, scientific, historical evidence to them, they go into hiding. All they shout is Oni is a benin prince. Blasphemy
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by hotwax: 6:53am On Feb 12, 2016
Even Benin people know they dont use Oba before. They use "Ogiso"

Aweka an Ife Prince went there and Install Oba and Omo'Noba in Edo meaning Omo Oba.

Omo Oba means son or subject of Oba. Someone who is accountable to Oba.

Omo and Oba are never Benin words. They were borrowed from Yoruba. Yoruba also sold them many artworks, terracota, weaving, fashion, Language and spirituals e.t.c.

Oba is a word for dominion.

[b]Ba [/b]is the verb meaning suppress or dominate

Oba is the noun.

Ba - alee: Dominate over a land. Thats why we call village head Baale.

Ba-ale: Dominate a house (head of the house)

Ba, Oba, Baale are yoruba words.

There is no crime in benin people borrowing it, but twisting facts is a crime.

Alubosa is not a Yoruba word. It was borrowed from the hausa. Its only a yoruba fool who will claim alubosa is a yoruba word.

Infact its an arabic word.

Benin people wise up.
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by ritababe(f): 7:18am On Feb 12, 2016
akinlolumichael:
@ Ritababe! kindly prove it

prove what
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by ritababe(f): 7:19am On Feb 12, 2016
akinlolumichael:
kai! ritababe u must be a real Benin person but your facts were wrong. oduduwa was a prince in mecca. it is d clash between d people of mecca that brought oduduwa to ife. do ur research very well.

am not Benin
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by Super1Star: 8:16am On Feb 12, 2016
AlPeter:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_Ogiso list of the Ogisos Note; the first is known as Oba Igodo or Igodo. Igodo means 'Brightly' Oba Igodo means 'shines Brightly' Note also the 28th Ogiso was Ogiso ODUWA.

There is nothing like Oba in the dynasty of Ogisos.

Oba started with Eweka 1, son of Oranmiyan, the great grandson of Oduduwa.
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by einsteine(m): 11:06am On Feb 12, 2016
The Benin Empire was so great that when the people of Dahomey wanted to choose a new name for their country, they didn't choose Oyo, or Ife, they choose Benin.
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by uncleade(m): 11:14am On Feb 12, 2016
gbosaa:


I thought it's only their women that is filthy and unhygienic. People say that Yoruba women and doti are like Siamese twins. I didn't know Edo people consider all of them as doti people. Where is spanishkid to confirm this.
Dirty but not a race of prostitutes. it's only among bini that u see a mother sends out her own daughter to prositute.infact in Burkina faso where i live, 90% of Ashwo girls are binis. but the only problem is that they always identify themselves as yorubas or igbos.and as we all knows that outside Nigeria, only hausa, yorubas and igbos are recognized. nobody knows about any cockroaches called edo or ibini or whatever they call themselves.
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by Ubenedictus(m): 11:17am On Feb 12, 2016
shinel:
Oba of Benin spokeman is a confused man...

'oni of Ife is a son of Oba of Benin' And we are not Yoruba race. What a confusing statement! We need clarity pls...
d kings are connected by blood but binis are not yorubas..
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by AlPeter: 11:27am On Feb 12, 2016
Super1Star:


There is nothing like Oba in the dynasty of Ogisos.

Oba started with Eweka 1, son of Oranmiyan, the great grandson of Oduduwa.
confirm things first, before talking. I gave a link check it up. Do you speak the language? do you know the meaning of 'UNKPO OBA'? If you do then no further discussion but i can bet.
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by AlPeter: 11:33am On Feb 12, 2016
hotwax:
Even Benin people know they dont use Oba before. They use "Ogiso"

Aweka an Ife Prince went there and Install Oba and Omo'Noba in Edo meaning Omo Oba.

Omo Oba means son or subject of Oba. Someone who is accountable to Oba.

Omo and Oba are never Benin words. They were borrowed from Yoruba. Yoruba also sold them many artworks, terracota, weaving, fashion, Language and spirituals e.t.c.

Oba is a word for dominion.

[b]Ba [/b]is the verb meaning suppress or dominate

Oba is the noun.

Ba - alee: Dominate over a land. Thats why we call village head Baale.

Ba-ale: Dominate a house (head of the house)

Ba, Oba, Baale are yoruba words.

There is no crime in benin people borrowing it, but twisting facts is a crime.

Alubosa is not a Yoruba word. It was borrowed from the hausa. Its only a yoruba fool who will claim alubosa is a yoruba word.

Infact its an arabic word.

Benin people wise up.
oba was use by the Benins more than 1000years before any Yoruba king was called Oba. Omogbae, Omokheoha, omowume, omoye are all Benin names
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by Super1Star: 11:35am On Feb 12, 2016
AlPeter:
confirm things first, before talking. I gave a link check it up. Do you speak the language? do you know the meaning of 'UNKPO OBA'? If you do then no further discussion but i can bet.

Tell us what it means.

Let us take it from.there.
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by Ubenedictus(m): 11:35am On Feb 12, 2016
oloyede252:
oh God.too much dense people on this thread..lemme ask you a simple question.was there anything like benin kingdom before the coming of oduduwa to edo land?if you're intelligent you will agree wiht the ooni.but you are too dull to understand.
was there anything like ooni before oduduwa?
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by Ubenedictus(m): 11:59am On Feb 12, 2016
hotwax:


Egbas and Ijebu discovered Lagos. They traded with Benin and Portugues. They sold artworks, Slaves, religion beliefs to Benins.

Why do benin worship Sango?

ESU ?

Obatala?

Be warded in knowledge and not just ethnic rants. We are one.

And when you guys trace your root, you fail. You dont know your root. Just because you hate Yorubas you are trying to erase your origin.

A Benin guy was saying Benins were from Igbo Land...I cried for him
how come oba akiolu clearly states that his stool originated from bini?
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by Ubenedictus(m): 12:11pm On Feb 12, 2016
hotwax:



Even the current oba of benin came to Ile-Ife for approval. It shows your age. Ask elders in your town (not an insult)
tthis is a lie my dear, no oba of bini goes for approval in ife.
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by Ubenedictus(m): 12:12pm On Feb 12, 2016
Super1Star:



All these one everybody is blowing nah grammar.

We are daring the Oba of Benin or his stooges to come out and say he is not from the House of Oduduwa.

Simple.

What is there in uttering those simple words as statement.

he just told u that the house of oduduwa is from bini.
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by AlPeter: 12:21pm On Feb 12, 2016
Super1Star:


Tell us what it means.

Let us take it from.there.
Unkpo Oba means red cloth. I speak Yoruba wella and also understand Benin so you will knw wen I tell you words borrowed and words not
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by Ubenedictus(m): 12:33pm On Feb 12, 2016
RaptorX:
You must really be dumb or just being silly if you don't know that the Biafran army captured and occupied Benin city during the mid west invasion, before they were beaten back in Ore on their way to Lagos. The federal army finally evict them from Benin and the entire mid west and chased them all the way to Onitsha .
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by Ubenedictus(m): 12:35pm On Feb 12, 2016
nairaimporter:


Omo oba ni edo means the son of the king that now resides in edo.

Oduduwa had 7 sons, one of them went to bini to become king.
d title means d son thatt radiate/shines in edo.
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by Ubenedictus(m): 12:44pm On Feb 12, 2016
akinlolumichael:
kai! ritababe u must be a real Benin person but your facts were wrong. oduduwa was a prince in mecca. it is d clash between d people of mecca that brought oduduwa to ife. do ur research very well.
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by ritababe(f): 1:06pm On Feb 12, 2016
akinlolumichael:
kai! ritababe u must be a real Benin person but your facts were wrong. oduduwa was a prince in mecca. it is d clash between d people of mecca that brought oduduwa to ife. do ur research very well.

It was the Benin People that gave the name Eko, which means "Camp" in
Bini language. The Benin people usually settled here in Lagos. It was
on one of those trips that they met Ile-Ife fishermen on the coast of
Eko and they fought and defeated the Ile-Ife fishermen and few Benin
people settled in Eko and few scattered population of Ile-Ife people
always settled for fishing.
When the Portugese came for exploration, the named Eko, which in Bini
means camp, they name it Lagos, which means "Lake" in Portugese.
You need to know the fact. Which is Oduduwa wasnt born in ile ife. He
migrated from somewhere. So the question is where did he migrate from?
The yoruba kingdom had existed before Oduduwa settled there. So where
did Oduduwa come from?
Why did he send his son to rule over Benin kingdom?
Try and see the connection and analogy in this. TO be king you must be
royalty by blood line. Hence he sent his son to Benin to rule over his
ancestral throne
cc.
Lstar4real
oloyede252
pulsa
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by KingRex1(m): 1:10pm On Feb 12, 2016
ritababe:

It was the Benin People that gave the name Eko, which means "Camp" in Bini language. The Benin people usually settled here in Lagos. It was on one of those trips that they met Ile-Ife fishermen on the coast of Eko and they fought and defeated the Ile-Ife fishermen and few Benin people settled in Eko and few scattered population of Ile-Ife people always settled for fishing. When the Portugese came for exploration, the named Eko, which in Bini means camp, they name it Lagos, which means "Lake" in Portugese. You need to know the fact. Which is Oduduwa wasnt born in ile ife. He migrated from somewhere. So the question is where did he migrate from? The yoruba kingdom had existed before Oduduwa settled there. So where did Oduduwa come from? Why did he send his son to rule over Benin kingdom? Try and see the connection and analogy in this. TO be king you must be royalty by blood line. Hence he sent his son to Benin to rule over his ancestral throne cc. Lstar4real oloyede252 pulsa
Hmm.. Such an eye opener. Ur source pls
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by ritababe(f): 1:26pm On Feb 12, 2016
KingRex1:
Hmm.. Such an eye opener. Ur source pls

u still need source to believe lol.
Let me look for it for you.
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by ritababe(f): 1:41pm On Feb 12, 2016
KingRex1:
Hmm.. Such an eye opener. Ur source pls

read the historical records of lagos in 1630s (the actualization of lagos)
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by OBAGADAFFI: 2:32pm On Feb 12, 2016
einsteine:
The Benin Empire was so great that when the people of Dahomey wanted to choose a new name for their country, they didn't choose Oyo, or Ife, they choose Benin.

Dahomey Benin is different from the Benin Empire.

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by KingRex1(m): 3:17pm On Feb 12, 2016
ritababe:


read the historical records of lagos in 1630s (the actualization of lagos)
1630 seriously? Are u some kinda historian or librarian?
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by macof(m): 3:28pm On Feb 12, 2016
JoeBlocks:
I await the Oba of Benin response to this.

is he stil alive? the Ogiamien needs to be present before a new Omo n'oba n'edo can be crowned.
and it seems the Ogiamien has been missing for years

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