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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by babalose: 6:50am On Apr 12, 2016 |
@agarawu23.....High traffic is with reference to commercial space. I doubt if i will subscribe to such ideas when it comes to commercial space, instead 3D ceiling will be better from my own opinion, like those beautiful painted ceilings of Cathedrals in Rome. The warranty and the price will give merit to its usage. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by agarawu23(m): 6:55am On Apr 12, 2016 |
Our builder's should do a research about this 3d flooring. You know we Nigerians like beautiful things especially our kids. The processing is on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--HlgR_aqdU All videos under the video link are all about 3d flooring. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by agarawu23(m): 7:01am On Apr 12, 2016 |
babalose:lol, millions of naira flooring on a commercial space? Mba! I prefer pop to 3d ceiling. Baba, if you do this 3d floor for your house eh and you have big men who do visit u at home, it will surely attract them and u might just win yourself a contract ![]() |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 7:41am On Apr 12, 2016 |
agarawu23: Pretty cool technology this is. Such type of work should be entrusted to professionals. I'm not saying we can't have it done here but even till date we've not perfect stained concrete floor installation which is relatively easier than installation of 3D polymer floors. Not even 3D floor. I no know person for naija. The only person I know in naija is the Oresegun Olumide guy who paints photorealistic images. ![]() ![]()
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by babalose: 8:13am On Apr 12, 2016 |
IMPERIAL INTERIORS CONTACTS DETAILS +971 50 502 0886 info@imperialae.com International City, Dubai, UAE http://www.imperialae.com/ I just called them. They said they will have presence in Nigeria after 2 months |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 8:27am On Apr 12, 2016 |
@ babalose, agarawu23, By the time you put over $7,000 on floor, will you still have a bed on that floor again? If na me, I go dey sleep on the floor like dat o 1 Like
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by babalose: 8:38am On Apr 12, 2016 |
@agarawu, brabus.....After extensive discussion with the company(Imperial interiors) in dubai, they charge $350/sqm for an average design so you can imagine a house with 2 or 3, 20sqm kids room or 35sqm/70sqm commercial space. It's not economically logical for the faint hearted. No wonder it's not even common in Dubai too. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 9:49am On Apr 12, 2016 |
Talking about budget-friendly or economical finishes, here's a kitchen done in 2012. I couldn't get the finished picture but it eventually came out like a fully-built kitchen cabinet. The total cost was not more than 40k.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by agarawu23(m): 11:57am On Apr 12, 2016 |
Babalose, they know say we Nigerians like to enjoy our money especially thieves who steal and spend lavishly ![]() Brabus , $7000 isn't that much if it can cover the whole living room. Here on this section , a man said he spent 3.8m to floor the sitting room below with marbles. As for me, I will prefer it below my center table where ppl won't step toes on it to extend its durability ![]() I can't do it and lock it up in one room where ppl won't be able to see it ![]() 2 Likes
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 12:23pm On Apr 12, 2016 |
@ agarawu23, I want to believe the room you attached above is not what you claimed they spent 3.8m cos everything from blind to furnitures looks so cheap. It didn't not even qualify as midrange in my class of choice property. Check the rug, light switches, even the tv. The man should say that figure to people in Sambisa and not lagosians. Could this be a case of money miss road? Come to think of it, the room is even less than 35sqm? Paying 120k per sqm for this is a colossal error. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by agarawu23(m): 12:29pm On Apr 12, 2016 |
n3xt:I argued with him but he insisted. I don't know how to search for threads I for bring am. At times I just shake my head when ppl call price of things that dont worth it. Our noise maker attendance ![]() |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by agarawu23(m): 12:31pm On Apr 12, 2016 |
I saved the picture that day and showed my Anty who deals in tilling. She told me its a BIG lie ![]() |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 12:37pm On Apr 12, 2016 |
agarawu23: And our noisemaker attendance marker no talk anything. Abeg find the thread, make the man come argue for here. Meanwhile, this is a living room in Lagos, Nigeria that qualifies as midrange. This is what we are working to achieve in K-024 and Atlantic View.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FastShipping: 12:42pm On Apr 12, 2016 |
n3xt: Where do they sell contemporary furniture in Lagos? I contacted these people yesterday at http://www.hdflng.com/home-furniture/home-sofas/# Thy don't know what they are doing. They have pictures on their website and no item for display. They asked me to pay them and they make the furniture of my choice for me. I told them no way. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by babalose: 12:44pm On Apr 12, 2016 |
@agarawu.....picx below is what i THINK 3.8m marble flooring should look like. Even though I choose not to doubt what happens to people in diaspora, building houses back home. Note the way I wrote think in capital letters. 1 Like
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 12:54pm On Apr 12, 2016 |
@ babalose, those are luxury range. They cost more than 3.8m @ FastShipping, I'll share some details here. Sellers and Furniture Companies that had franchise to do custom built furnitures. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by babalose: 1:03pm On Apr 12, 2016 |
@brabus...thanks for the correction. I used the word THINK though. Achieving an outlook like the picture you pasted of a house in Nigeria is still very OK for any contemporary house lover. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by agarawu23(m): 4:58pm On Apr 12, 2016 |
Only jjc will put his/her 3.8m on that flooring. I don't know if the marbles will be imported from heaven ![]() ![]() ![]() Brabus that living room is wow ![]() Babalose, your picture are for luxury houses o |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by write2obi(m): 7:16pm On Apr 12, 2016 |
n3xt:Well said Oga ne3t, But our people do say that soup wey sweet, na money kill am. Most of us usually don't have the intention of finishing cheap, but sometimes you'll find your self in a situation where you have exceeded your intended budget and time frame. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by agarawu23(m): 7:37pm On Apr 12, 2016 |
Oga brabus How much do you think this art below will cost me ? My daughter like things like this so much. But olumide bleeped up in the last art launching or so they did recently. His presentation isnt cool at all and he has the lowest sale of 250k or so. He has a lot of jaw dropping arts but I don't know who adviced him to go with the one he presented.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 6:09am On Apr 13, 2016 |
write2obi: Brabus says "Soup wey sweet, Na ingredient and good plan kill am" The most disheartening thing on this forum is that we are quick to pick faults but not to learn some good tips by the real experts or wannabes like me. ![]() I always laugh when I read "All na packaging" and all sorts. Anyway, you can only package the truth. If you package lies, it won't be long before you see the outcome. I've seen projects where clients have put in double the cost of my projects here and I always smile and say to myself "It's not always about the money" but the good plans and cost-shaving-yet-cool-ideas. Let me use The Reserve as an example. There's a client here who saw the foundation work of the reserve and engaged us for a building project. We went into the project but low and behold problems emanated and they saw the problem as been more important than the end result. Anyway, they have the money to cook the most beautiful soup but they do not have the ideas to select the right ingredients for the soup which is advantage that I have. I always smh when I read the comments on "101 books of how to kill your tenants" "25 laws of fighting trouble tenants" and I'm always like why the hell on heart will a troubled-soul rent my property if done my very good part. It's pretty simple. "Treat others as you want to be treated" and the result will be different. Still on my routine visit to projects done over the years as we are planning to commence The Reserve II, I cannot but notice that my build again attracted the "alalubarika" tenants that are not only paying on time but kept the compound clean and undisturbed. No headache, no heartache. Did we spent up to N50m (for land, documentation and the build/finishes) on the reserve? No! Yet, it was a very good soup with highest ROI. @ write2obi, I understand una very well. We are all guilty of this. We are always like "Jide don finish hin house. He don start the 2nd one for village. Will I pay another rent when my house don already reach plastering stage? The truth is I'm not always bothered because I'm not Jide. Lastly, I know you're new here. I'll want you to pick one out of the two houses below. Both started around the same time but one finished earlier than the other. One spent more money than the other. One used the best quality of materials than the other. One is maintenance-free while the other has had a major rework done on it. This is not to harm any one o but just for learning purpose. Abeg! 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 6:24am On Apr 13, 2016 |
The Reserve by NextHome The property was not only able to attract high paying tenants but very comfortable guys who were attracted to the well-planned environment which is not only secure but large enough to accommodate all their needs. Getting prepared to collect my 2nd rent. Pic: Unit 3 Parking space and common area. Take note of the low-cost-yet-cool finishes. No window hood but white paint round the window. No pillar. No wall belt. No American electric fence wire but cheap barb wire. But there's ample parking space for 12 cars on one plot of land. There's no need for any tenant to call each other when parking or moving out. That's comfort and my money is paid comfortably. Let me say this is what packaging got me.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 6:31am On Apr 13, 2016 |
agarawu23: I like WOW. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by skimanski(m): 7:22am On Apr 13, 2016 |
agarawu23: You guys should Leave Olumide Alone oooo!! I have a personal Envy for that Guys talent ooo. This Painting in Particular speaks a lot to me. But Oga if you fit buy one for me, I go Glad ooo. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 8:02am On Apr 13, 2016 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by agarawu23(m): 11:46am On Apr 13, 2016 |
skimanski: ![]() ![]() I love his jobs too. I remember one guy in my street then do a lot of jaw dropping arts too. When I go home, I will look for the boy and ask him if he can draw my daughter like this with the water dropping. Olumide level don high, he might charge hundreds of thousands ![]() 1 Like
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FastShipping: 12:36pm On Apr 13, 2016 |
n3xt: Rubbing palms....... |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by crisisng: 12:44pm On Apr 13, 2016 |
My Oga Brabus, From these pictures we can tell which one is the better one in terms of finishing. Good job here. Now I read some of the comments below which seem to be slight digs at some of your estranged clients which does not seem professional but that’s another for another day. I am not having a go at you here but wanted to ask one question which has confused me for some time. Looking at this and all your other positive threads I find it amazing how someone with so much talent can have a number of dissatisfied clients so I’d like to ask you what went wrong on those projects? You don’t have to go into much detail about this and you don’t even have to reply but I will just like to get a feel of where it went wrong. If it is one client it could be the client or contractor’s fault but when you have a few that are queuing up to complain then it’s worth knowing/understanding this so other prospective clients can get a better feel of the real Brabus. With all these work/ideas you put on here I am amazed that your clients don’t have anything but positive things to say about you. I sometimes look at your work and wish that I am a client of yours because you seem to possess a very creative and innovative outlook with it comes to building houses here in Nigeria which is what the industry needs. Just some food for thought and I hope you don’t take this the wrong way. n3xt: 5 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by popnoville: 1:09pm On Apr 13, 2016 |
Please help, I already have very dry piece of land. But no plan yet. what would it cost me to build in Benin? From foundation to roofing? I was thinking about a nice design, very modern but not too expensive to complete. Bungalow twin flats. Land::: L100 × W50 Front flat::: Parlour, master bedroom with bathroom and toilet. 2 bedrooms with shared toilet/bathroom. Kitchen and dinning. Back flat :::: Parlour, 2 bedrooms. Shared Bathroom/toilet. Dinning with kitchen. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by agarawu23(m): 3:36pm On Apr 13, 2016 |
popnoville:you can steal idea here https://www.nairaland.com/2915461/3d-views-buildings-harneyproject-team It depends on your taste and pocket. 4 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Onuokwu: 3:54pm On Apr 13, 2016 |
crisisng: Hmmm....No doubt Brabus can speak for himself. As an independent observer however, I think the problem was that Brabus tried to get as many jobs as possible and work for every customer that came his way. Eventually, he discovers that his methodology does not agree with the client's approach. Not that this was not known at the inception of the business relationship but the usual thinking of "let's start first and work everything else out later" that is so common in this clime is allowed to hijack what should be proper business negotiation that determines responsibilities and rights of contractor and client, leading to a signed agreement. In Corporate parlance or business school admission language they will say "There is no fit between client and Contractor". I have never done any work with Brabus but the guy sure is talented. My own understanding of how to get the best out of a business relationship with him will take the following steps 1. Agree existing Archi plans, Engineering drawings and 3D renditions with him and that he can deliver on everything (if he is not the one that did the drawings) 2. Call for and receive quotes for different milestones (Foundation, block work, roofing, electrical etc) 3. Negotiate this quotation vigorously based on your own knowledge of market. If possible get an additional QS expert to give you "take it or leave it" prices which should guide your Negotiations with him 4. If both of you agree, then pay him based on each milestone. (at this stage forget about saying you want to supply x or y to him for the build). In other words you have given him a contract and should expect finished product 5. Having paid upfront the agreed % of each milestone, visit site during work to be sure what you agreed is what is going on. Be quick to draw his attention to any issues and resolve this on the ground (Please this visit is not to argue about how many blocks he said he will use in his quote and how many he has actually used etc) 6. Since we can all do market survey individually, be open to consider variations in prices of some items if truly these prices have changed subsequent to his quote and your agreement. 7. If in doubt about any thing, refer to your signed contract and let that decide who wins that particular argument. I always incur additional (Much less than 0.1% of cost of development) expense in any build i do and this is usually in the following areas 1. Lawyer fees who draws up covenants for that relationship 2. At least 2 quotes for the same job aside the person i really want to do the job. I have also invested time to learn this myself but still call for these extra quotes 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 5:06pm On Apr 13, 2016 |
@ Haj Mufu, Update...... Remember Friend Of Mine I Was Talking About?. He Decided To Go Ahead And Complete Abandoned Upper Floor. He Did Not Want To Wait Until He Goes To Nija. So Builders Are Working On It Last Month Without His Dad's Consent. Some People Found Out And Let His Dad Knows Strangers Are Working On The Project. He went Straight To The Police Station To Report It. He Sent His Younger Wife To Go To My Friend's Mom To Confirm If My Friend Ordered Ongoing Project. My Friend Was Upset For Having His Step Mom To Question His Mom Over His Project. Someone Called Him To Call His Dad To Stop The Police. So He Did And Let Him Know He's Aware Of Those Working On His Site. His Dad Was Upset And Screamed To The Whole World. Something He Supposed To Keep Secret From Day One. He Never Kept It Secret. He Had Strangers Taking Care Of The House While My Friend's Blood Brothers And Sisters Are Around. He Gave Legal Documents Of The House To Strangers. All These My Friend Found Out. His Father Is Still Talking And Reporting His Son For Building The House To All Types of People Because He Considered It Insult For Continuing The Project Behind His Back. He Said It Means He Accused Him Of Looting His Hard Earn Money (Which Is True Of-Course). My Friend Already Asked For His Docs 3yrs Ago, He Never Gave It Up. Now He's Trying to Use It Against Him. He Wants To Sell The House. Trying To Change Names On The Docs To His. My Friend Entrusted His Docs With Him Just Bcus He's His Father And He's Stabbing His Son From The Back. But He Talked To A Lawyer In The Local Govt And Was Told His Dad Wont Be Able To Sell It For Number Of Legal Reasons. Besides, It Is Fraud. But They Advised Him To Fence It ASAP To Keep D!ck Head Out Of His Land. I Dont Understand Why His Father Is Doing This. Some People Now Advising My Friend To Sell The House Bcus Of Too Much Noise. Yes, The Noise His Father Makes Is Damn Too Much. He Is Just Talking Trash About His Son To Anybody Over What. I Dont Condone Selling The House. I Believe He Should Rather Fence It, Get Attorney To Recover His Docs From D!ck Head Old Fool And Put Up Signs Of "Not For Sale" On The House. He Is In The Process Of Doing That Now. His Father Has His Own Completed Houses In Lagos And Ogun And Vacant Lands In Those States. I Dont Know What More He Wants. Bottom line Is, He Has No Respect For His Children. He Divulged His Children's Personal Affairs With Strangers They Dont Know Of. The Thing Is, My Friend Has Another Land Opposite Current Construction Site And The And Land Is Not Fenced. His Dad Is Threatening To Sell It. He Already Got A Lawyer To Aid His Fraud.He Has Bunch Of Strangers Running Over His House To Check What's Up There. Is This Man Insane Or What. |
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