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Re: Low Savings: Okonjo-iweala Did Not Indict The Jonathan Administration by Deadlytruth(m): 5:13am On Apr 16, 2016 |
toysleek: Very clearly illustrated and simplified by you. The wailers have refused to tell us what motivated governors to go to court over savings under GEJ. It all boils down to trust. When people were wondering why Nigerians did not pour out into the streets in demonstration against Buhari for trying to remove subsidy the way they did to GEJ, I told them that it is not the removal of the subsidy that Nigerians are against but that they feared that they could not trust GEJ as regards the integrity and honesty to judiciously use the proceeds, but could trust Buhari more on that. As a good leader rather than blame the governors for deprecating his proposal to save he should have tried to find out why they did not trust him. Once people trust a leader they hardly ever resist his suggestions even if harsh and unbearable. 3 Likes |
Re: Low Savings: Okonjo-iweala Did Not Indict The Jonathan Administration by anonimi: 5:26am On Apr 16, 2016 |
aieromon: Please how can a reasonable, educated Nigerian associate leadership and integrity with Ebola Owu? How can that be possible ![]() Nigeria's Obasanjo, his Untouchables, and the $16 Billion Power Scam |
Re: Low Savings: Okonjo-iweala Did Not Indict The Jonathan Administration by anonimi: 5:40am On Apr 16, 2016 |
toysleek: Your analogy is based on incomplete information, to put it mildly. The JOINT Federation account is where subsidies are paid from hence the 36 state governors were pushing for its removal as far back as October 2011. Fact! Should you not ask yourself why the governors did not drag Jonathan to the Supreme Court if any tiny amount whatsoever was taken from the JOINT Federation account without following procedures? Should you not be asking that question ![]() Is that not what a RATIONAL fellow citizen should ask, instead of peddling RUMOURS and spreading PROPAGANDA with LIES ? www.nairaland.com/attachments/2606941_fuelsubsidygovernorssupport2011d_jpegc347aadcc28645a881c11e877b19ae27 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Low Savings: Okonjo-iweala Did Not Indict The Jonathan Administration by AdeniyiA(m): 5:50am On Apr 16, 2016 |
charity, the say, begins at home. Jonathan's Bayelsa home is broke too, why didn't he advice the governor to save then?? |
Re: Low Savings: Okonjo-iweala Did Not Indict The Jonathan Administration by deb(m): 6:00am On Apr 16, 2016 |
Amanwulu1: People will remember you for either of two things. Your good or bad deeds. We shall not forget easily the 'yam and goat' policies of the most clueless one |
Re: Low Savings: Okonjo-iweala Did Not Indict The Jonathan Administration by saintmark88(m): 6:07am On Apr 16, 2016 |
winterfell007: How do u think, if he went ahead to save, wouldn't we be calling him a hero, obj is praised because he had d political will to save, GEJ was too weak, he lacked it, Nigeria does not need a weak leader, despite d calls n pressure, both n Nigeria n internationally for d pmb to devalue d Naira, he has insisted he would not, y because he doesn't see a reason to, if GEJ had seen a good reason to save, or if he wanted to save, no governor can stop him, come on, he was d commander in chief of the Armed Forces for crying out loud, pple mite have hated him den, for flouting court orders, buh by now we wud b calling him a hero.......... Thts how it works bro |
Re: Low Savings: Okonjo-iweala Did Not Indict The Jonathan Administration by anonimi: 6:40am On Apr 16, 2016 |
antispexish: The federal government INVESTED the money for reviving abandoned railways, roads, agriculture etc to generate JOBS, revenue etc in addition to paying the minimum wage increase. Can you say what APC states used their money for ![]() |
Re: Low Savings: Okonjo-iweala Did Not Indict The Jonathan Administration by klinro(m): 6:42am On Apr 16, 2016 |
Political correctness is one of the reasons why Nigeria is where it is today. Speak the truth and stand by it. |
Re: Low Savings: Okonjo-iweala Did Not Indict The Jonathan Administration by a4jasper(m): 6:49am On Apr 16, 2016 |
anonimi:Can u also tell us wat PDP states used theirs for?.. cos d last time I checked na almost everybody Collect bailout funds including ur hero's state. |
Re: Low Savings: Okonjo-iweala Did Not Indict The Jonathan Administration by anonimi: 6:51am On Apr 16, 2016 |
a4jasper: So do you agree that APC has no basis whatsoever to accuse Jonathan? Thanks. |
Re: Low Savings: Okonjo-iweala Did Not Indict The Jonathan Administration by anonimi: 6:52am On Apr 16, 2016 |
klinro: What is the truth here please? Thanks. |
Re: Low Savings: Okonjo-iweala Did Not Indict The Jonathan Administration by kelly72: 7:08am On Apr 16, 2016 |
For the ultimate benefit of those who comment more from their bigoted sentiments than from good reasoning, please read: 1. Obasanjo left in the foreign reserves nearly $40 billion. It should have been more but for the deep seated corruption that he also ran. 2. Jonathan left in the foreign reserves $30 billion. 3. Jonathan created the Sovereign Wealth Fund to save up money from the excess crude earnings. 4. Governors insisted that the federal government cannot save on behalf of federating units. They headed to the supreme court and compelled the government to share the money instead of saving. 5. The minister of finance is an appointee of federal government. She can suggest measures to avert future economic crisis, but has no powers to compel the federating units if they fail to see reasons for saving their money. 6. We all have biases, nuances and differences. Those who comment from their reservoir of ethnic hatred without looking at the truth always catch the tiger by the tail. Finally, Ngozi Okonjo Iweala is human, like us all. She has her personal issues to contend with but some people want her to heal the personal issues they have in their own lives. However, she is too good for most of her traducers. Whenever she replies them, they keep quite (ask Oshoiomhole). It is fashionable for losers to throw tantrums up at her but it will take some generations for her critics to produce someone of her class. We still have a minister for finance. What is going on there? Follow this link from vanguard and get the gist: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/05/sovereign-wealth-fund-govs-ask-s-court-to-abort-fgs-plan-to-withdraw-2bn/ |
Re: Low Savings: Okonjo-iweala Did Not Indict The Jonathan Administration by pastormellanby: 7:16am On Apr 16, 2016 |
stop fooling urselves u can blame buhari but u failed to blame poor leadership system in Nigeria that failed to save and they are giving execuses not to save , I can see ignorance of the highest order people can't reason very well again because of tribal sentiment. |
Re: Low Savings: Okonjo-iweala Did Not Indict The Jonathan Administration by a4jasper(m): 7:17am On Apr 16, 2016 |
anonimi:Mtcheeeew....has dat answered d question above?...u political jobbers neva cease to amaze. Suddenly only fashola & Amaechi are d the 36 govs who opposed Gej? Y didn't d PDP govs who were in d majority support their own? |
Re: Low Savings: Okonjo-iweala Did Not Indict The Jonathan Administration by AntiWailer: 7:28am On Apr 16, 2016 |
dadexcel: can u hear urself ? ok tell me wat GEJ saved from Federal Government'should share of the ECA ? 1 Like |
Re: Low Savings: Okonjo-iweala Did Not Indict The Jonathan Administration by demslayerrz: 7:31am On Apr 16, 2016 |
Chukzyfcb: God bless you. |
Re: Low Savings: Okonjo-iweala Did Not Indict The Jonathan Administration by demslayerrz: 7:34am On Apr 16, 2016 |
dadexcel: Can you now tell us what happened to the 52% share of the Federal government? Did the governors also forced GEJ to spend his own share. Pls tell us 2 Likes |
Re: Low Savings: Okonjo-iweala Did Not Indict The Jonathan Administration by Kenobus: 7:35am On Apr 16, 2016 |
seunmsg:NOI didnot double speak. It is clear that Amaechi, Fashola and co did everything to sttop GEJ. Nigerians know. NOI actually referred to the system and the Govs and Nigerians who couldn't help to allow GEJ to save. She shouted, GEJ did everything but no way. GEJ isn't Obj that would use impunity |
Re: Low Savings: Okonjo-iweala Did Not Indict The Jonathan Administration by Kenobus: 7:38am On Apr 16, 2016 |
It is very clear that Amaechi, Fashola and co did everything to sttop GEJ. Nigerians know. NOI actually referred to the system and the Govs and Nigerians who couldn't help to allow GEJ to save. She shouted, GEJ did everything but no way. GEJ isn't Obj that would use impunity. Unfortunately they are the ones shouting today. 1 Like |
Re: Low Savings: Okonjo-iweala Did Not Indict The Jonathan Administration by seunmsg(m): 7:44am On Apr 16, 2016 |
Kenobus: And the simple question still remains, why didn't the federal government save its own share of the excess crude account? They got 52% of the money, if saving is a top priority to GEJ and NOI, they would have saved what they got. Blaming the governors who got a paltry 48% for their inability to save is the height of irresponsibility. 2 Likes |
Re: Low Savings: Okonjo-iweala Did Not Indict The Jonathan Administration by CecyAdrian(f): 7:51am On Apr 16, 2016 |
anonimi: Hahahahahahaaha, I have been following the discussion and at this point, it's safe to say you reason like a joker, why not just call the black colour in front of you BLACK!, why beat around the bush looking for a comfortable word order than black to call it? I had to quote you because you said, FG invested the money in those areas you listed above, right? So where are the proceeds from the investment? And what are the physical evidence that the money was invested, our rails are still in shambles, roads are still a death trap, no generated job, no saved money, nothing! Please explain again 2 Likes |
Re: Low Savings: Okonjo-iweala Did Not Indict The Jonathan Administration by anonimi: 7:57am On Apr 16, 2016 |
CecyAdrian: From the DILAPIDATED rot that Buhari handed over in 1985 to what Jonathan delivered by 2015 is appropriately called TRANSFORMATION, not so ![]() ![]() www.nairaland.com/attachments/2045441_image_jpeg9f360c5ab7736510df54c882e9dbf188 munas: |
Re: Low Savings: Okonjo-iweala Did Not Indict The Jonathan Administration by CecyAdrian(f): 8:09am On Apr 16, 2016 |
anonimi: Repainted political campaign tools, where are they now?? |
Re: Low Savings: Okonjo-iweala Did Not Indict The Jonathan Administration by CecyAdrian(f): 8:16am On Apr 16, 2016 |
anonimi: Lol, and the man in the first pics and his family I know well, and know what he does for a living, so if the pictures were gotten from him, it's just another confirmation that this are political oriented photos to score some cheap points. But if you are him, I will say is O. Why have you brought your photo propaganda to Nairaland |
Re: Low Savings: Okonjo-iweala Did Not Indict The Jonathan Administration by anonimi: 8:21am On Apr 16, 2016 |
CecyAdrian: Right here, in your face. ![]() eazydon: |
Re: Low Savings: Okonjo-iweala Did Not Indict The Jonathan Administration by Deadlytruth(m): 9:20am On Apr 16, 2016 |
anonimi: Unfortunately GEJ himself never kept this same OBJ at a distance till he had done irreparable damage to his regime's image. Imagine GEJ, in his very first post-swearing in public speech, saying "OBJ left some positive legacies which I will follow after in my regime". That was when the $16bn power sector fraud by OBJ was already making the news as disclosed by GEJ's own immediate predecessor and boss-Yaradua. I kept wondering what positive legacy GEJ saw in a man who promised to give us stable electricity within 18 months but ended up spending $16bn after 96 months (8 years) to give us stable darkness. Even the Yaradua whom OBJ directly and single handedly placed in power distanced himself from OBJ throughout his 2.5 year reign. But the GEJ whose rise to power could not be directly credited to OBJ started glorifying OBJ on assumption of office. It was at that moment I realized that GEJ was going to be very weak and naïve and that his government was going to be like that of Shagari where the head was acting as the legs. |
Re: Low Savings: Okonjo-iweala Did Not Indict The Jonathan Administration by anonimi: 9:49am On Apr 16, 2016 |
Deadlytruth: As IBB said Jonathan was politically "inexperienced" but administratively very "competent". In addition, he is an exemplary democrat, something that our fellow citizens are not ready for. Overall, he remains the best president we ever had. |
Re: Low Savings: Okonjo-iweala Did Not Indict The Jonathan Administration by Nobody: 9:53am On Apr 16, 2016 |
winterfell007:Really? If you wasted your school fees on other things other than getting your mind intellectually uplifted, that does not give you the right to force your idi.ocy on some of us. How was Obasanjo able to save? Why did the governors (who were PDP majority by the way) decide to have their own share? What did Jonathan and NOI do with the reported 52% share the FG was entitled to? If you and your fellow sharers and likers cannot answer these basic questions, then shut the Bleep up and let us hear. All i see is verbal gymnastics from a so-called assistant that haven't done anything to clarify the facts which still remain that Jonathan the mor0n did not save. If he had any political will to save, the governors would not be forced to take the FG to court. Which brings me back to my first question on how Obasanjo was able to save and how he was able to achieve that. But I don't expect you and your gang of brainless twerps to get the picture, given that your tongues are on GEJs butt 24/7 The only will Jonathan had was to loot and share the contents of the coffers with his friends and militants. |
Re: Low Savings: Okonjo-iweala Did Not Indict The Jonathan Administration by Amanwulu1(m): 9:54am On Apr 16, 2016 |
deb:if u talk gudluck it might b ok bt wen our govt will tell us gej everyday as if he was not removed 4 dem to perform thereby finding excuse in gej for every of their failings. Why dont they also give him credit 4 d few achievements so dat we'll b sure dat they're only continuing gej admstrtn n yet to start theirs. |
Re: Low Savings: Okonjo-iweala Did Not Indict The Jonathan Administration by Nobody: 9:56am On Apr 16, 2016 |
Amanwulu1:What achievements? Please tell us. Stop this gerrymandering and embellishing. |
Re: Low Savings: Okonjo-iweala Did Not Indict The Jonathan Administration by Nobody: 9:58am On Apr 16, 2016 |
anonimi:I think it's you who needs to read properly. Read the first line of your post. anonimi:Or didn't Jonathan save to buy you glasses? Or are you trying to spin my words in your favor just like Mr. Assistant to NOI is trying to spin hers and failing miserably. |
Re: Low Savings: Okonjo-iweala Did Not Indict The Jonathan Administration by anonimi: 10:06am On Apr 16, 2016 |
Eastbay: Where did you get the bold portion from? Definitely not from my post that you quoted. Please read again for a better understanding. Cheers. |
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