Joagbaje:


Yes

Joagbaje:
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It's bible I quoted from



In the new world God rules . Not lucifer or any arch angel. Such office lucifer had is no longer available

Rilwayne001:


And so if this is the first?, then which earth were you talking about before Adam came?
I thought you said it was destroyed by Yahweh?

ebenice:

oops! ..I never knew I've been causing gulley erosion by my post and comments ..I was only airing my views all this while ..sorry I never meant to hurt Islam

bros I just saw my mention and on clicking on it I saw your quote ...I decide to reply to your comment ..

if I want to give attention to the op , well that's mine to decide not you deciding for me

have a nice day buddy

HardMirror:
I remember days I would sing Lara Georges song, "Ijoba ORun" a song that provokes thoughts of heaven, "I want more of you" and the likes.
I have always been unafraid of death, I mean NEVER!
Yes I am afraid of the pain I may suffer while dying, but never afraid of leaving this world for glorious life that awaits with the Father!

Well, some times I think about hell and it makes me shiver.
Billions of people Burning, crying, in pain, in serious thirst and they will be like that FOREVER Hmmmm. OH LORD PLEASE LET ME BE AMONG THE FEW THAT WOULD REIGN WITH YOU. TAKE ME AWAY RIGHT NOW IF I WILL EVER DO ANYTHING THAT WILL COST ME ETERNAL LIFE!

Now more than ever before I embrace death with open arms. When I shall be asleep with no toil or desires.
Death is the reason why we live. Life feeds on death. There is nothing to protect or fight for.
What is life? Life has no purpose. All things are permissible as long as you are ready to accept the consequence of your actions. I mean ALL THINGS. Yes even killing other people.

You can choose to be whatever you like. No rules bounds you, only consequences bounds you.

Well that is not what I will be discussing here.

Rather,
I will be telling you why hell and heaven are nothing but myths. I used to be a christian so I will debunk the whole essence of the bible's Hell and heaven and salvation

analice107:

I boldly call you a fraud. You are not who you claim to be. If you are let's discuss those scriptures you malign if your fraudulence won't be exposed. You claim you were a pastor. Which church did you pastor? When did you receive Christ? What was your testimony of redemption.
Come down and talk with Christians who can expose your lies.

HardMirror:

Which kind yeye christian were u?

analice107:

I boldly call you a fraud. You are not who you claim to be. If you are let's discuss those scriptures you malign if your fraudulence won't be exposed. You claim you were a pastor. Which church did you pastor? When did you receive Christ? What was your testimony of redemption.
Come down and talk with Christians who can expose your lies.

theoneJabulani:
HardMirror, you av made Ana furious. Sorry ma'am, truth hurts

HardMirror:
I remember days I would sing Lara Georges song, "Ijoba ORun" a song that provokes thoughts of heaven, "I want more of you" and the likes.
I have always been unafraid of death, I mean NEVER!
Yes I am afraid of the pain I may suffer while dying, but never afraid of leaving this world for glorious life that awaits with the Father!

Well, some times I think about hell and it makes me shiver.
Billions of people Burning, crying, in pain, in serious thirst and they will be like that FOREVER Hmmmm. OH LORD PLEASE LET ME BE AMONG THE FEW THAT WOULD REIGN WITH YOU. TAKE ME AWAY RIGHT NOW IF I WILL EVER DO ANYTHING THAT WILL COST ME ETERNAL LIFE!

Now more than ever before I embrace death with open arms. When I shall be asleep with no toil or desires.
Death is the reason why we live. Life feeds on death. There is nothing to protect or fight for.
What is life? Life has no purpose. All things are permissible as long as you are ready to accept the consequence of your actions. I mean ALL THINGS. Yes even killing other people.

You can choose to be whatever you like. No rules bounds you, only consequences bounds you.

Well that is not what I will be discussing here.

Rather,
I will be telling you why hell and heaven are nothing but myths. I used to be a christian so I will debunk the whole essence of the bible's Hell and heaven and salvation

Amberon11:
Are you aware that Albert Einstein, the greatest physicist of all time believed in God? PS: Bill Gates is a Christian and I wasn't even talking about atheism.

Julianyao:

Einstein believed in Spinoza's god i.e Nature. In one of his letters that was found recently, he professed his disbelieve in a god. BTW, he's not the greatest of all time.

analice107:

If what is saying is true, then let him engage Christians. It's not enough to revile but won't answer when challenged.
Joagbaje opened a thread as a rebuttal to him, he has be evading it ever since, why?
Truth hurts, we know, but until you can ascertain what truth is, you are still lost.

johnydon22:


NATURE is everything. There is mass, energy, atoms, molecules, life,
thought, people, societies, galaxies and perhaps even multiple universes
(pure speculation). But there is nothing outside nature, including spiritual
visions and other phenomena we don't yet understand. If they exist, they
are part of nature.

Spinoza asserted that for a concept of god to make any sense at all, it
must simply be nature. That is, god cannot be something outside nature
that controls it, but must necessarily be part of it. According to Spinoza,
God IS nature.

Spinoza's God simply put is that from the smallest strings to the atom up to large stars and extra-large stars and possibly universes if there exist many or any other weird manifestations of nature yet maybe elusive to us.

That all are within the confines of nature.

And if something can be defines as God then certainly that should be nature which implies that everything You, me, trees, ants, planets, galaxies everything are all unit bits of the part of God and all in unity is God.

Julianyao:

You sound more and more like an existentialist. Moreover, I like your method.

sonOfLucifer:

Hahaha. Joined the Dept to keep myself busy. Along the line, God caught me and used me mightily.
Unfortunately abi fortunately, it didn't last too long.

HardMirror:
Udysweet my dear I sight u
I am still waiting for u my sweetheart o

udysweet:
And when I went to front page and saw a mention,I knew it would be you(I was proved right,lol!)You dey wait for me where and hw? Am not your "spec "na,lol! With all those things you listed aside been an atheist,I doubt you wld want to keep friends with people wh are christians and other religions.Am not an atheist and don't intend to ever be one(am still your friend sha wether you like it or not)Told you I made a very good friend here who's An atheist and I've evn met one on one twice,he's respected my wish not to try and talk me out of my christianity. So dear you can't win me over jo. My only fear with you,about been ur frnd outside of this platform like I reiterated earlier was that maybe d day I'll see you now,u fit pounce on me say I be christian. How's your search coming on,any luck?

udysweet:
And when I went to front page and saw a mention,I knew it would be you(I was proved right,lol!)You dey wait for me where and hw? Am not your "spec "na,lol! With all those things you listed aside been an atheist,I doubt you wld want to keep friends with people wh are christians and other religions.Am not an atheist and don't I
tend to ever be one(am still your friend sha wether you like it or not)Told you I made a very good friend here who's An atheist and I've evn met one on one twice,he's respected my wish not to try and talk me out of my christianity. So dear you can't win me over jo. My only fear with you,about been ur frnd outside of this platform like I reiterated earlier was that maybe d day I'll see you now,u fit pounce on me say I be christian. How's your search coming on,any luck?

HardMirror:


U ehn!
I can read btwn the lines my dear, don't worry about your religion, I am very tolerant. I do what I do on nairaland in hope of saving people who were like me when I was going thru the stage of doubting what I tot I knew.

Leave that one jare and don't ask me about my search, I got many lady friends from nairaland even christians. Make dem no vex sey I still dey try corner u,

Don't worry your pretty head about converting jare so far u like am as e dey.

udysweet:
Wch one be I can read btw d lines? Oga oya explain yasef. As for ur NL babes,abeg mak dem rest dem cute heads,I no wan snatch you,so dey shdnt feel threatened o,lol! Chai,na dis call wey I reciev now naim mak me never fit quick sleep again,com carry me come NL at dis time wey hardmirror come dey mention me for hin post,chai Abasi mmi mbok!lol. Abg me I want the best for you and so I wld want to know how far you've progressed in that aspect,on a serios note. So weda or wedan't you must update me o,if u no want post am here,u fit whisper am foor my ear,lol! I still get one "odd"(in n way deaming o) person for this forum when I wan mak my friend too,out of curiosity(he's even mentioned me before somewere on two other off religion threads)I jus wan knw weda na real human being sef,lol! I like myself,to make friends dem no dey charge person money,lol!
Hope you're good tho? And one more thing: go to bed!(Remember you agree to me when I tell you to do things o,lol)
Ps:gosh! What am I doing in religion section? Hardmirror na u o*runs out*

HardMirror:

I only sleep for about 3 hours a day. Been like that for about 20years now. Don't know why.
So shld I "whisper" to u tonight? Cos I thread very very carefully. Take my offline life serious o but me like u

johnydon22:


Stop taking the world too serious, its way too short to be working one's self over such trivial stuffs as beliefs.

Life is more than that.

the sun rises and sets as always, it's this over seriousness that always tends to overcomplicated the whole process for us.

analice107:

You will know how serious and complicated this issue is when you stop breathing God's air. The sun rises and sets everyday, yea, but a day will come when it will no longer rise and set on you, then you will know the seriousness of what I am getting worked about.

Joagbaje:


He destroyed the then world and the solar system . He created a new man in his image ,Adam as father of the new race . And gave him dominion over the earth. Man was also to judge the fallen beings .

1 Corinthians 6:3
Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

But Satan deceived man. And man lost his place. That's how Satan became the word ruler again, so the present world system is under Satan The power Satan is using is what man lost through Adam And that why Gid sent christ as a last Adam . Who won the fight for man. As man's representative . The obedience of man is the judgement of Satan .

John 16:11
About judgment, because the ruler (evil genius, prince) of this world [Satan] is judged and condemned and sentence already is passed upon him.

johnydon22:


LOL

analice107:

Yea. Let's enjoy this time to laugh, for there's time for everything under the sun. A time to laugh and a time to cry.
A time to be born and a time to die. Then when die, there'll be no more time for anything.
Enjoy yourself while it last. Life on earth is about 70 to a 120years if you are fortunate. But how can that be compared to eternity?
You don't believe this shit, I know, you don't need to. But your unbelief of it doesn't change a thing. Just know that.

Joagbaje:


The word first actually mean former .

In terms of succession . Amplified translation made it clearer. Revelation 21:1 amplified
THEN I saw a newsky (heaven) and a new earth, for the formersky and the former earth had passed away (vanished), and there no longer existed any sea.

Rilwayne001:


I couldn't find anything that denotes your point here. However if actually you are right, why was he (lucifer) the ruler of earth in the first place? Did God actually appointed him as the ruler of the old earth?