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Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by kinibigdeal(m): 11:51pm On Jun 08, 2016
Lagos Light Rail Line is too costly compare to a similar project in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia .

Please see below :


Addis Ababa Light Rail Project,Span : 34Km. Cost : $475m
number of Stations : 39
Project Tenure : 2011 - 2015

Status : The project is already completed and running effectively .

Lagos Light Rail project

Span : 27km
Cost : $1.2Bn
number of Stations : 13
project Tenure : 2010 till date
Status : not completed

Is the new 4th mainland bridge worth the cost?

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Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by truthspeaks: 11:52pm On Jun 08, 2016
Contract inflation. O pari

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Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by DonCortino: 11:59pm On Jun 08, 2016
Because we have fantastically corrupt leaders!

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Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by deeplow: 12:11am On Jun 09, 2016
Haba na. Dont be naive. You cant compare the two. They did not include Omo onile and Akiolu in the budget for Ethiopia's light rail na. That can add quite a lot to the budget.

Nigeria is known to use better quality materials for construction. This is evident in our hospitals,schools and world class roads.

27km in Nigeria is quite longer than 34 in Ethiopia. Basis for measurement is different.

Chief Amaechi himself will corner some of the money.Na where person dey work, hin dey chop.

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Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by kinibigdeal(m): 12:18am On Jun 09, 2016
deeplow:
Haba na. Dont be naive. You cant compare the two. They did not include Omo onile and Akiolu in the budget for Ethiopia's light rail na. That can add quite a lot to the budget.

Nigeria is known to use better quality materials for construction. This is evident in our hospitals,schools and world class roads.

27km in Nigeria is quite longer than 34 in Ethiopia. Basis for measurement is different.

Chief Amaechi himself will corner some of the money.Na where person dey work, hin dey chop.
grin

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Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by keyremotes(m): 12:20am On Jun 09, 2016
deeplow:
Haba na. Dont be naive. You cant compare the two. They did not include Omo onile and Akiolu in the budget for Ethiopia's light rail na. That can add quite a lot to the budget.

Nigeria is known to use better quality materials for construction. This is evident in our hospitals,schools and world class roads.

27km in Nigeria is quite longer than 34 in Ethiopia. Basis for measurement is different.

Chief Amaechi himself will corner some of the money.Na where person dey work, hin dey chop.
grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

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Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by firstolalekan(m): 12:22am On Jun 09, 2016
Woe betide all these corrupt leaders


May they all die of painful inoperable cancers angry

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Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by Scholes007(m): 12:55am On Jun 09, 2016
Possible thing that can change the cost of such project significantly is the terrain. Lagos is a swampy area and any construction project is likely to cost more than conventional. Also the population that will use it determines the quality of things or will you want to waste millions for it to fail so soon?

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Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by aresa: 1:08am On Jun 09, 2016
kinibigdeal:
Lagos Light Rail Line is too costly compare to a similar project in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia .

Please see below :


Addis Ababa Light Rail Project,Span : 34Km. Cost : $475m
number of Stations : 39
Project Tenure : 2011 - 2015

Status : The project is already completed and running effectively .

Lagos Light Rail project

Span : 27km
Cost : $1.2Bn
number of Stations : 13
project Tenure : 2010 till date
Status : not completed

Is the new 4th mainland bridge worth the cost?




Lagos Metro Rail Project goes beyond what you listed and the project is not limited to metro rail.

Ethiopia's rail project is just a rail project

Lagos state metro includes 27km metro rail with multiple lines

54 km 10 lane expressway

BRT access

Stations

Overhead bridges

Rail bridge across the Lagos Lagoon

Power station

Get your facts straight...

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Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by chinchum(m): 1:31am On Jun 09, 2016
kinibigdeal:
Lagos Light Rail Line is too costly compare to a similar project in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia .

Please see below :


Addis Ababa Light Rail Project,Span : 34Km. Cost : $475m
number of Stations : 39
Project Tenure : 2011 - 2015

Status : The project is already completed and running effectively .

Lagos Light Rail project

Span : 27km
Cost : $1.2Bn
number of Stations : 13
project Tenure : 2010 till date
Status : not completed

Is the new 4th mainland bridge worth the cost?
I dont think it is same model, lagos is building an overhead light rail. To the best of my knowlege Addis Ababa light rail is not like such.

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Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by ever811(m): 1:38am On Jun 09, 2016
hope u read the news about a yoloba man that stole ,$4 million in London today..if u do then you hv got the answer its in there blood..

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Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by koladebrainiac(m): 1:54am On Jun 09, 2016
kinibigdeal:
Lagos Light Rail Line is too costly compare to a similar project in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia .

Please see below :


Addis Ababa Light Rail Project,Span : 34Km. Cost : $475m
number of Stations : 39
Project Tenure : 2011 - 2015
Mumu go chznge dollar fro. Each country n calculate

Status : The project is already completed and running effectively .

Lagos Light Rail project

Span : 27km
Cost : $1.2Bn
number of Stations : 13
project Tenure : 2010 till date
Status : not completed

Is the new 4th mainland bridge worth the cost?

.go n carry calculator.calculate how much we sellling dollar

Also consider the terrains n routes it has to take.
Consider the aquatic nature of Lagos.

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Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by coolitempa1(f): 2:58am On Jun 09, 2016
chinchum:
I dont think it is same model, lagos is building an overhead light rail. To the best of my knowlege Addis Ababa light rail is not like such.

Why bother with kids.......

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Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by mrofficial(m): 3:09am On Jun 09, 2016
deeplow:
Haba na. Dont be naive. You cant compare the two. They did not include Omo onile and Akiolu in the budget for Ethiopia's light rail na. That can add quite a lot to the budget.

Nigeria is known to use better quality materials for construction. This is evident in our hospitals,schools and world class roads.

27km in Nigeria is quite longer than 34 in Ethiopia. Basis for measurement is different.

Chief Amaechi himself will corner some of the money.Na where person dey work, hin dey chop.

OMG. You are funny! grin grin grin

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Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by AZeD1(m): 3:20am On Jun 09, 2016
Because the terrain is different, the project is different .e.t.c.

There are so many variables to the project that makes comparing the cost based on length stupid.

Would it cost the same to build a house in Ethiopia?

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Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by stobery(m): 3:47am On Jun 09, 2016
koladebrainiac:


.go n carry calculator.calculate how much we sellling dollar

They are both in dollars broda

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Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by DaBullIT(m): 4:58am On Jun 09, 2016
You have Brains in your head

Scholes007:
Possible thing that can change the cost of such project significantly is the terrain. Lagos is a swampy area and any construction project is likely to cost more than conventional. Also the population that will use it determines the quality of things or will you want to waste millions for it to fail so soon?

Unlike some people who claim to be smart , but can't understand the concept of construction, Imagine someone mentioning omo onile when it's clearly not the same thing or even related

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Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by Lanretoye(m): 5:38am On Jun 09, 2016
oga who are you asking this kind of question here now?,as if the auditor general of lasg is here on nairaland...the states that didn't inflate rail projects are busy privatizing govt schools and owing months salaries,common you are not a kid.
as if you didn't collect money for exercise book and notebook at the same time from ur parents when u were in school.

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Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by Nobody: 6:28am On Jun 09, 2016
Because it is Lagos and not Ethiopia
Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by koladebrainiac(m): 6:31am On Jun 09, 2016
stobery:


They are both in dollars broda
calculate the value of our naira to dollar n calculate their dollar to naira.

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Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by koladebrainiac(m): 6:37am On Jun 09, 2016
stobery:


They are both in dollars broda
Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by ba7man(m): 6:50am On Jun 09, 2016
The Lagos light rail is elevated for most parts since it runs on swampy land and it's also a 2 way rail.

You'll have to calculate the cost of the pilings, the concrete footings and it's larger size to accommodate the 2 trains at the same time.

It also crosses a water body and it's complete with a super highway that runs alongside it with pedestrian bridges linking the train stations which are also elevated.

The Ethiopian Lightrail runs on land and is a normal railway line with stops alongside it.

Their specifications and topography are miles apart, hence the cost difference.

Since it's Nigeria, some inflation will be included but it's not as much as some people are trying to project.................. and which one is their own Governor doing in their own state in the first place?

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Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by kinibigdeal(m): 7:31am On Jun 09, 2016
koladebrainiac:


.go n carry calculator.calculate how much we sellling dollar


Did you check the date listed at all

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Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by RZArecta(m): 7:33am On Jun 09, 2016
Cost of a road project in Kaduna or Ebonyi would be way cheaper than Yenagoa for instance. Same distance, different terrain

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Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by kinibigdeal(m): 7:36am On Jun 09, 2016
aresa:





Lagos Metro Rail Project goes beyond what you listed and the project is not limited to metro rail.

Ethiopia's rail project is just a rail project

Lagos state metro includes 27km metro rail with multiple lines

54 km 10 lane expressway

BRT access

Stations

Overhead bridges

Rail bridge across the Lagos Lagoon

Power station

Get your facts straight...



Very funny. Probably you want me to give you the full details of their rail project or you find out yourself. Lagos rail line is such a scam

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Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by KINGwax007(m): 7:43am On Jun 09, 2016
First. Check the shipping cost to Ethiopia and to Nigeria.

Second, how many of those parts will Ethiopia be manufacturing on their own and how many wld Nigeria ever manufacture?

Lastly, importation of experts.

This is neglecting corruption in the whole equation

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Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by kinibigdeal(m): 7:48am On Jun 09, 2016
aresa:





Lagos Metro Rail Project goes beyond what you listed and the project is not limited to metro rail.

Ethiopia's rail project is just a rail project

Lagos state metro includes 27km metro rail with multiple lines

54 km 10 lane expressway

BRT access

Stations

Overhead bridges

Rail bridge across the Lagos Lagoon

Power station

Get your facts straight...


Is better you find out what you don't know. Its as exactly the same specification

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Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by ISpiksDaTroof: 7:49am On Jun 09, 2016
One word: NIGERIANS!

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Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by kinibigdeal(m): 7:51am On Jun 09, 2016
ba7man:
The Lagos light rail is elevated for most parts since it runs on swampy land and it's also a 2 way rail.

You'll have to calculate the cost of the pilings, the concrete footings and it's larger size to accommodate the 2 trains at the same time.

It also crosses a water body and it's complete with a super highway that runs alongside it with pedestrian bridges linking the train stations which are also elevated.

The Ethiopian Lightrail runs on land and is a normal railway line with stops alongside it.

Their specifications and topography are miles apart, hence the cost difference.

Since it's Nigeria, some inflation will be included but it's not as much as some people are trying to project.................. and which one is their own Governor doing in their own state in the first place?



Bro, it has exactly the same specifications. It passes through a place they call Ayat village (mainly waterlogged) etc. Lagos rail is the photocopy of Ethiopians metro rail. Kindly find out before you comment. Talking about piling in this context is laughable

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Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by blackpanda: 8:00am On Jun 09, 2016
This has already been approved by the legislature so I think its too late to complain. But that said, I dont think all projects are supposed to cost the same. Its a different terrain, different contractor, different cost of building materials and cost of transporting same etc

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Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by comos: 8:13am On Jun 09, 2016
aresa:





Lagos Metro Rail Project goes beyond what you listed and the project is not limited to metro rail.

Ethiopia's rail project is just a rail project

Lagos state metro includes 27km metro rail with multiple lines

54 km 10 lane expressway

BRT access

Stations

Overhead bridges

Rail bridge across the Lagos Lagoon

Power station

Get your facts straight...


you should have added grazing Land

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Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by MadCow1: 8:18am On Jun 09, 2016
Inflation is definitely one part... Terrain is another..

The fact that two nations both have the same KM of railway does not mean they would both cost the same. The bulk of the Lagos rail programme is running over head. Ethiopia during the planning of Addis Ababa may have factored in a rail road and created the access for it, In Lagos State, they obvioucly didnt and thus have to find a way to fit one in and that alone will affect the pricing.

Funding also matters.. How a project is funded also affects the cost of the Project.

I also heard that the Lagos rail project will have a dedicated power station to power all the lines. I don't know about Ethiopia's.


Basically, we will have to look at the scope and financing of both projects holistically to get a clearer picture to see what the similarities, differences, financing and other issues are between both projects to better answer your question.


This is a picture of the Ethiopian rail line..





This is a picture of Lagos Light rail..


[img]http://4.bp..com/-qfFXiCawOMM/T6I4XymG_ZI/AAAAAAAAAPo/kTLRz3PkEt8/s1600/rail13.jpg[/img]

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