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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 8:31pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
abdulwastecx: http://dpw.lacounty.gov/wmd/floodzone/ This is the county (local government) that I live in. You're not going to just build anyhow. The government has failed Lekki but the homeowners are culpable too. Please play around with that mapping site. The homeowners won't build the required type of house because it's look ugly. You know our people. The first floor of at least all commercial building in Lekki should be a parking garage. 3 Likes 1 Share
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 8:36pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
abdulwastecx: You get it! All properties in Lekki and all other flood prone areas should consider doing a basement (flood proofed) in order to keep their property afloat during flash floods. In actual sense, a basement will make more sense than the traditional cut-and-fill found nations which we are accustomed to in these areas. The basement will amongst other things do the following: 1. Eliminate the need for sandfilling which covers about 8% of construction cost in this areas. The excavated soils from the basement can be used to backfill the compound or raise up levees around the property. Good solution yet cheap. 2. Big Savings on foundation cost. Some may ask how is this possible? Basements do not require internal partitions to serve its intended purpose. As a result, there are few concrete to pour (the slab and the walls). The cost of waterproofing a basement is almost negligible when you compare the benefits. Also, the additional space gained can add more value to the property and serve so many other purposes. 3. Effective Flood Protection. A basement if well designed and constructed can effectively prevent flood in most homes in Lekki and people will live without worries. Let me leave it here for now. More to come.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 8:51pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
Let's take a look at the design attached. Developers and small communities with common goal can implement this simple design to deal with flooding and drainage issues. But how possible is this in an area where government do not control the lands? How possible is this in communities where Omo Onile determines the setbacks, roads and right of ways. The more the setbacks to properties, the lower the flood level except in buildings which were already below flood level. Again, government has a lot to do to address this issues.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by AZUH: 9:52pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
@agarawu @egunmojagi i am fine , how are you guys doing ? I don't need to defend anything . Wait for more pictures . |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by successmatters(m): 10:24pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
AZUH: Brabus aka AZUH this is the moniker you use to cause distraction whenever you like to steer the talks away from you. Kontinuu. 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by successmatters(m): 10:24pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
AZUH: Brabus aka AZUH this is the moniker you use to cause distraction whenever you like to steer the talks away from you. You no dey taya? Kontinuu. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by AZUH: 10:45pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
@successmatters . Listen and listen very carefully . Nigeria is not USA or abroad . Learn how to respect elders . Enu go ? 4 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 11:10pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
I think this overemphasizing on floods is just being used by one particular person to divert attention away from himself (reminds me of the lekki gardens stuff as well, and how he was the chief investigator /spokesman), build sensible drainage and maintain it well and floods will be drastically reduced. Both internally in ones house and also in the community i.e roads, not building on flood plains or drainage channels etc. Even in developed Western Europe, they have floods that wipes away a whole community, usually caused by heavy rainfall and properties close to waterways or in flood plains. Abdulwastec, pls explain what you mean by basement, basement to me is like an underground space, usually below the road level. What it sounds as though you are referring to is to build a house on like what I call loads of Pillars or whatever technical term you guys call it, mainly used in commercial builds whereby the ground floor is like the parking space. Please confirm. My pictures below is trying to explain what I mean. I quite like the idea of building on pillars, but will the entire groundfloor be only pillars or can it have some living space like servant quarters there etc / gym / swimming pool etc. How can the space be better used, and reduce the risk of flooding, just building a house with pillars on the entire groundfloor is somewhat boring IMO and would be an architectural eyesore especially in a residential build (imagine like 50 pillars) abdulwastecx:
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 11:23pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
mavverick: You are right sir. I may have been wrong using the term basement because it means building below grade. Raising the building higher and supporting with pillars will work. This space below can then be use for the gym, security house and swimming pool. The idea is to have functionality that will not be too affected in the event of flood. You are right on point sir 3 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by allCopacetic: 11:34pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
abdulwastecx: You took the words right out of my mouth, This is the most practical and easily actualizable defence.... "ELEVATION" If you can't control the flow of water in your direction control your elevation/position relative to water level when the floods hit. Note the use of the word "defence" . you cannot prevent coastal flooding it's inevitable , the earth is bruised and bleeding....especially at an individual level, and in a country like this. But you can buy/provide yourself some defence. Those with a more robust budget can build a ramp That goes from the side to rear of the house as pictured below, to serve as a safe spot for the cars during the flood and use the ground garage when the threat abates. You can even connect the ramp like an elevated porch or balcony to your first floor and simply park your car and stroll into your back balcony from the ramp. 4 Likes 1 Share
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 11:41pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
allCopacetic: A well written piece of valuable Information with nice sketches to back them up. This is the most economical and practical solution to the problem. 6 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by allCopacetic: 11:53pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
Thanks, In my opinion the pillars don't even have to be so conspicuous. There's always some intelligent way of framing it.. with walls or some sort of cosmetic covering that helps improve aesthetics abdulwastecx: 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Juokorow(m): 1:36am On Jun 19, 2016 |
abdulwastecx:I beg, check other site for my message to restore linkage!!!!!! |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 3:14am On Jun 19, 2016 |
abdulwastecx: In addition to forcing new builds to use the first floor as underground parking, the city can also create two or three reservoir parks. Reservoir parks are low laying recreational areas that can be closed off during rain and used to store rain water and then pumped out or a controlled escape downstream. I live next to the Santa Fe Dam recreation area, a 70 acre potential lake - that's a lot of water holding capability. 3 Likes 1 Share
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 3:53am On Jun 19, 2016 |
This is good! I've seen basement, underground reservoirs, house built on stilts, stormwater drainages, raised floors, ramp. Is there any more design consideration? Let's keep it coming. Thanks abdulwastecx, Egunmogaji, allCopacetic (my eyes still on you), Maverrick and everyone who has chip in some very good comment |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 4:03am On Jun 19, 2016 |
Any good proposal for those who already built their houses below flood level? How do you flood proof your house in event of flash flood? _________ Ikota complex by the Israeli HFP had good drainage design yet it gets flooded during heavy downpour. __________ Segcymoor suggested cutting the lintel, raise the door and increase the height of the entryway. __________ There's a house in Thomas estate, Ajah that never gets flooded when all other houses are affected by flash flood. The owner implemented a very creative drainage design. __________ Any more? |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by agarawu23(m): 4:42am On Jun 19, 2016 |
AZUH:okay sir! I dey wait |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by agarawu23(m): 4:44am On Jun 19, 2016 |
successmatters:only a sick person will agree with u azuh is brabus. Read their lines and use your IQ. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Happykay: 5:56am On Jun 19, 2016 |
n3xt: Is this your proposed solution to qc1 build ? You must be a comedian 4 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 7:10am On Jun 19, 2016 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 7:40am On Jun 19, 2016 |
@ mavverick, you can help by telling us the status of this build during the heaviest downpour that flooded the whole of Lagos. It's our build which is clearly below flood level and we will appreciate feedback (good or bad) from clients who took to instructions early enough. #StopTheWaterBeforeItStopsYou #Prevention is better than cure.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Demainman1: 8:01am On Jun 19, 2016 |
The above pictured project na wa o. How can somebody build inside river? Is it due to too much money in the client's pocket or what? 5 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 8:08am On Jun 19, 2016 |
Demainman1: Funny enough, the owner didn't see the water when he bought the land. But this is what we are talking about. Fix the issue. Stop looking for help where there is none. The longer it stays, the worse it becomes. Thank God the owner listened to the advice to fix the water issue before proceeding with the build.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by danowena: 8:31am On Jun 19, 2016 |
n3xt:I was at this site in Ologolo, infact, I was meant to buy the 2 plots but got a better place. I even took some pictures when you were working. But wouldn't the job have been neater if you had sand filled before building? I saw how the carpenters struggled with the water. It was nice seeing the determination of the work force on ground. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 8:38am On Jun 19, 2016 |
danowena: Now, I know. You were the man that came in the jeep. I was told someone came... Concerning Sandfilling before building, it's a long story you won't want to hear. However what we did first was to build flood protection round the existing fence to prevent water from other site from coming into the plot. Then, we faced it head on. Some clients won't stop until nature put them to stop. Brabus |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by babalose: 9:29am On Jun 19, 2016 |
HAPPY FATHER'S DAY Babalose
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 9:35am On Jun 19, 2016 |
Happy Father's Day. May you never be dethroned as King of your home in Jesus name. Amen. NextHome 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 9:37am On Jun 19, 2016 |
n3xt:Chief brabus, do you mean these 3 pictures are from the same project site. Is it possible for you to post the finished build. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 9:42am On Jun 19, 2016 |
gbadexy: I'll defer that request to the owner. But if he grants the permission I can do 5 minutes video from the main Ologolo road to the site. I'm sure if it didn't work, this page will have reach 800 and the whole Nairaland would be shaking by now. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by successmatters(m): 9:56am On Jun 19, 2016 |
agarawu23: Actually, you are underestimating the negative creativity of ogbeni brabus. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by successmatters(m): 10:00am On Jun 19, 2016 |
n3xt: See what I am "sawing? 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by successmatters(m): 10:02am On Jun 19, 2016 |
Azuh is viewing soon after brabus log out, come on brabuAZUH 1 Like
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