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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by CAPSLOCKED: 6:03pm On Jun 28, 2016 |
HardMirror: SERIOUSLY SIR I'M LAUGHING SO HARD HARD, IT FEELS LIKE THIS IS MY LAST HOUR! MEANWHILE WE NEED TO CHECK THIS GUY TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT REPLYING A POTATO HEAD! ![]() 4 Likes
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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by HardMirror(m): 6:20pm On Jun 28, 2016 |
CAPSLOCKED:His stupidity is surely a blessing. One that brings laugher 4 Likes |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by oweniwe(m): 7:10pm On Jun 28, 2016 |
HardMirror ... And CAPSLOCKED What percentage of man's brain can we utilize presently? Just 25%... That's even for genuises... Most people don't even use up to 15% of their brain capacity. Let me ask you a question ... If the great pyramids in Egypt could be built at those times, what makes you think it is impossible for Noah ' s ark to have ever existed? The Bible said the sun "stood still "... You surely don't believe it... But do you know that man is no vigorously researching into the creation of artificial suns that will hang in orbit when the present sun goes cold in the next two centuries... If you tell the people in those days where multiple artificial suns is the norm that only one sun once sustained the World, they will not believe you. You said nylon covering bread doesn't mean water can cover the whole world ... What makes you think that is not possible? The bible said God opened the doors of the "deep "... Do you know what "the deep " means? "Earth is a jewel of the solar system, painted blue by the vast oceans that hold the majority of our planet’s water—or so we thought. Most of Earth’s water, according to a new study, may actually be locked in a reservoir 400 miles underground........ If all the ringwoodite in the transition zone is as damp as the samples that Jacobsen and his team detected, that layer would hold three times as much water as all of the Earth’s oceans combined, reducing their share from 96.5% of all known water to a relatively paltry 24.8%. In other words, the ringwoodite discovery could quadruple the amount of water found on Earth...." http:// www. pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/earth/huge-underground-reservoir-holds-three-times-much-water-earths-oceans/ Now look at the surface of Jupiter, Uranus or Neptune .... It is very possible that water can cover the whole world. You said it's not possible to keep millions of animals in an ark.... let me ask you... Is it possible for 10m people to live comfortably on a ship? ... You may say no.... But it is not impossible. Someone said it is impossible that Jesus fed a crowd of 5,000 buy multiplying some loaves and fishes... Look at coca cola... How many billions of soft drinks have they produced? Where did they get all the water, bottles and chemicals they used. How did only Egypt feed all the nations around them in farmine? Is it possible for people thousands of years ago to store so much grains for 7 years without modern storage facilities and still be able to feed countries around them? The mistake you are making is that you're thinking within the confines of your brain. ... A decade ago, before you see 1gb disk, you will sweat... But today, 10tb can be fitted into a disk no bigger than your finger nail. The same way you are looking at people in the stone age... Saying rubbish that all they did is impossible because they were not technologically advanced ...... That is how people who will live in the next 2-3 centuries from now will look at us today. They would say all our present "Advance Technology" is impossible for us to achieve. They would see us as primitive and savage. Just imagine someone in the year 4050 saying .... "How is it possible for people in 1999 to achieve supersonic flights with junk scrap metal?" How is it possible that New York or Tokyo be such big cities they claim to be? (Remember Nineveh and Babylon are now desert? ) Now let me ask you... What is the time difference ... How many centuries have passed between Noah time and now? Man still has a lot to catch up with... Common Flu and virus epidemics we can't prevent or control on time with all our "Technological Advancement ". What you think is very hard Or impossible for people in the stone ages to do could actually be very simple for them. You said it is impossible for penguins to trek across continents just to be in the ark.... That shows how shallow ur reasoning is..... Do you know how bitterly cold the world ' s climate was at the time? Penguins don't need to be in antartica at the time and neither do kangaroos need to be in Australia at the time... Sahara desert was once like the Amazon basin. All life started from the middle east and dispersed from there... Some animals left trails... Others didn't ... Its no biggie considering the time frame involved. Flying dragons that spat fire once lived... Where are they now? Is it impossible that dragons ever lived? No 12 Likes |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by melanch(m): 7:19pm On Jun 28, 2016 |
I think this is a simple thing; Christians believe in the mighty power of God, that's their lifestyle and they love it! All those calculations and logical stunts are just a waste of time. Most atheists I know try to make great impact in the world, I hope you are planning yours rather than calculating the size of an old ark. That's a horrible waste of time! 1 Like |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by HardMirror(m): 7:50pm On Jun 28, 2016 |
oweniwe:Na wa o So we humans only use 15% of our brains. This is one of those old wives tales people swallow. Show me a credible science journal or source that states this. I also demand you show me a credible science source or authoritative source that toLd you the sun willl stop shining in 2 centuries from now. Lol So you believe every conspiracy and crap you see online without checking out with the authorities in the relevant field. I shake my yansh for you. No wonder you believe the bible 9 Likes |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by HardMirror(m): 7:52pm On Jun 28, 2016 |
melanch:And why can't I waste my time if I want to? Is it your time? 5 Likes |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by HardMirror(m): 7:58pm On Jun 28, 2016 |
oweniwe:Your own case is even worse than that of an average christian. I am sure you even believe unicorns exist and flying horses with wings 6 Likes |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by realmindz: 8:18pm On Jun 28, 2016 |
HardMirror:why are so ignorant, some people have started giving birth to green babies and purple babies... so that's explain how adam and eve gave birth to blacks Arabs and all other races...open ur head |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by uckennety(m): 9:02pm On Jun 28, 2016 |
CAPSLOCKED:Ya negro is one and Mongolian |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by uckennety(m): 9:04pm On Jun 28, 2016 |
HardMirror: Ya read about it |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by uckennety(m): 9:07pm On Jun 28, 2016 |
CAPSLOCKED: Ya I combined it now thk about it |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by oweniwe(m): 9:14pm On Jun 28, 2016 |
HardMirror: That shows you're very ignorant. If aeroplane as big as five storey buildings can fly, an horse... Even elephants will fly if they have suitable wings. Dragons existed up to the 14th century before they went extinct. Do your research well. If you go into the forests you will see species that science have not even classified.... Try and think outside your brain ... It has nothing to do wth being a Christian or religion. If the pyramids in Egypt could be built without cranes and steel rods.... If they could build free standing obelisks as tall as skyscrappers and the obelisks are even still standing today in Rome ... Then tower of babel was definitely real... And it is very possible for noah to have built that ark. The climate of those times is definitely not d same we have now. My grandpa told me that when he was a teen, there were 22 hours in a day and not 24hours we presently have.. Try think outside your brain. 2 Likes |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by HardMirror(m): 9:18pm On Jun 28, 2016 |
oweniwe:Johnydon22 have you seen ignorance this worse? This guy is a unique specimen. ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by HardMirror(m): 9:24pm On Jun 28, 2016 |
uckennety:Interesting I never knew we had any other specie of humans apart from homo sapiens o I am beginning to see why christians swallow fairy tales as facts Just as the one telling me dragons existed even to the 14th century. Lol Now I understand you people better. 2 Likes |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by oweniwe(m): 9:31pm On Jun 28, 2016 |
HardMirror: You are the one who is ignorant. Prove me wrong .... Instead of typing rubbish. Aren't pyramids real? Aren't obelisks real? Werent Sahara/Arabian deserts once fertile forests? The walls of babylon.. as high as 15 storey buildings and wide as 20 lane highway so that soldiers could shoot from top of the walls.... The great wall of china... Aren't they real? Then what makes you think noah ' s ark is impossible? 1 Like |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by HardMirror(m): 9:34pm On Jun 28, 2016 |
uckennety:You read that the earth existed before the big bang? Interesting This just keeps getting amusing 2 Likes |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Nobody: 9:41pm On Jun 28, 2016 |
oweniwe:The bolded is clearly a problem with the standards / equipment for measuring time as at that period and not a variation in the time period for a day which has been established to be 24 hours. 5 Likes |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by HardMirror(m): 9:45pm On Jun 28, 2016 |
oweniwe:So because pyramids which we can see even today and obelisks are real every other thing must be real even tower of babel, noah's ark and dragons. Hogworts must be real too. Infact x-men are real. Since trucks are real, Optimus Prime must be real too. Cameros are real so Bumble Bee (Transformers) must be real too. You call me ignorant for saying you are fallacious for claiming that dragons existed even uptil the 14th century and that the sun will die out in 2 centuries time. Are you getting these from movies? The pyramids were built by hundreds of thousands of people and the architecture gradually evolved. How can Noah and his family build such an ark that is even longer than any ship in existence today? Have we not built taller buildings than the pyramids? How can such an ark fit all the species of animals along with their mates? I don't have time for someone that believes dragons exist even in the 14th century. You are not even worthy to discuss with a 10 year old child. 11 Likes 1 Share |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by uckennety(m): 10:35pm On Jun 28, 2016 |
HardMirror:Mr homo sapiens (modern man)is a stage of human evolution just as homo erectus is also a stage in human evolution propounded by charles darwin!the are not species @ all!species is when there is a variety of same thing e.g red rose and white rose!d er both rose but they are different species!guinea pig and west africa pig all are pigs!you can google human species For a clearer picture |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Nobody: 10:37pm On Jun 28, 2016 |
There is this part we always evade absentmindedly while we decompose d fictitious fanciful noah's ark tales with proof: according 2 Gn6:19 - and of every living thing of all flesh, 2 of every sort shall u bring into d ark, 2 keep them alive with u -plants were never mentioned, which means all d plants were left 2 damned- Gn7:23a- and err'living thing was destroyed which was upon d face of d ground- lol, according to noah's logic plants are not living things- plants were living on d face of d sky, 4 them 2 survive d flood- Gn8:11a- & d dove came in 2 him in d evening: and, lo, in her mouth was a plucked fruit- i thought err'living thing was destroyed, how come a dove was able to plucked a olive leaf- are we to say plants are non-living thing according to noah's logic? - no where in d bible recorded where god asked noah 2 save d plants - were all d plants immuned 2 flood?, maize, weak vegetables, millet, bean etc? - does it mean all d plants we sees around us today all survived d GREAT flood - xtains pls think 12 Likes 1 Share |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by oweniwe(m): 10:42pm On Jun 28, 2016 |
0rex: Not really. The sun's radiation intensity affects planets orbit. Maybe when the sun/earth were younger long ago or so..... The earth spinned faster than it is spinning now. If the sun suddenly burns more or less energy, it'll affect the earth ' s orbit, weather, climate, winds... Since the time of Noah, a lot of changes would have taken place. ![]() |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by sonofthunder: 10:45pm On Jun 28, 2016 |
johnydon22:your illustration is off |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Antiparticle(m): 10:56pm On Jun 28, 2016 |
oweniwe:lwkmd. Please tell me you are just trolling for laughs. Most of what you have posted in this thread doesn't make sense. I really suspect you are just trying to deliver us some humor. 3 Likes |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by oweniwe(m): 11:03pm On Jun 28, 2016 |
HardMirror: You took the Bible ' s words literally without considering the time frame involved. You are no willing to think out of the box. You're like a highly trained doctor who believes that HIV and Cancer are incurable.... Where as, an old illiterate African traditional doctor will cure those diseases with herbs and no side effects. I have seen cancer being cured with palm win, garlic and paw paw extract.... If I tell a cancer specialist at John Hopkins that it is possible, he won't believe me... It is the same way you are reasoning ... The fact that you didn't witness something that happened thousands of years ago doesn't mean it never happened. It is the past that beget the present ... And the present beget the future. Without these pasts you're ridiculing with your unwillingness to think outside the box ... All the gadgets we are using Today, we would never have developed them. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by CAPSLOCKED: 11:12pm On Jun 28, 2016 |
BeastAmbition: NO YOU CAN'T DESTROY PLANTS BY FLOOD CUZ TREES LOVE TO SWIM! 7 Likes |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Nobody: 11:30pm On Jun 28, 2016 |
CAPSLOCKED: You got me there bro.... i just discovered we hardly elucidate on how the plants were able to survived the flood, maybe it's because the bible didn't talked about it - this thread is really an eye-opener to those who want to see reasons... hardmirror really did a great work to come up with this.... this shows that plants are more precious in the sight of the christain god than human life - he save the plants but allowed all the other living thing including human and animal to perish.. what a god! ewedu too can swim? - i think they need to come up with a more reasonable reasons to how the plants were able to survive 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Image123(m): 11:43pm On Jun 28, 2016 |
HardMirror: Guaranteed to make people with common sense throw their bibles away. Lol, here comes another fellow that overrates himself. Why people think that they are the only ones that think, or the only ones that ask questions, or the only ones that ever studied is plain ludicrous and myopic. BTW, first things first. The Bible is a spiritual book, and Christianity is a [size=14pt]FAITH[/size]. The central and most vital theme and requirement of christianity is faith. Believers are expected and required to believe. Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. You cannot substitute faith for sight. Believe is first, it is priority, it is center. It is far more important than logic or reasoning when it comes to the Faith. Note that they are not mutually exclusive, atheists dully try to believe so, being bereft of much belief. No pun intended. It is like someone trying to make calculations central in literature, or sociology. While calculations and figures are important and good, they do not take preeminece in such issues. It is the same thing with the Faith. So forget all these attempts at stopping believers from believing first. Stop fetching water into a basket, it is not very smart. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Image123(m): 11:48pm On Jun 28, 2016 |
HardMirror: None of this calculation is needed to understand the bible. i did not verify your calculations though as that would be a waste of time. Why on earth will one not misunderstand the Bible. This is like bringing in guns, bombs, fighter jets and missiles for tea. Simply unnecessary. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by oweniwe(m): 12:03am On Jun 29, 2016 |
Antiparticle: Not really ![]() Remember people thought flying was impossible before the Wright Brothers proved them wrong. I was actually trying to get OP expand his brain a bit and think outside rigid norms. Most of the things we term "impossible " are actually possible if we can expand our brains a little bit more. The OP also took the Bible words literally ... That is wrong. Before, people thought the earth was flat. If you told them the world is as round as a ball, they won't believe u. If I tell the op that there are birds that can dive deep into waters and fly out again into the air with fish in its mouth, he won't believe me... He would say say once a bird goes under water, it'll drown... But he's wrong. Cape gannets, cormorants and pelicans can do all that with ease. If birds can dive under water, swim around to catch fis and fly into the air again .... Now consider the time frame between noah time and today... It is NOT IMPOSSIBL that dragons once existed. .... Historical records from china to europe claimed dragons existed in their time.... Fossils of even dinosaurs are there... If you believe dinosaurs existed but don't believe dragons existed too, hmmm... No wahala. My point is... To the people at the time OP is referring to.. Abraham - Moses period, there was only one "continent"... Before Christopher Columbus formally discovered America, Europeans didn't know America existed.... At the time of Aristotle, people believed the sun cris crossed the sky everyday .... At the time of Julius Caesar, there were "only three continents... Africa, Asia and Europe, ... That's all ![]() So if we travel back in time... To the time of Moses... Not to talk of the time of Noah.... Assuming all life started from the Middle east ... It is not impossible that the whole middle east was once flooded... And if the Egyptians could build the pyramids at that time, Noah ' s ark with animals in it is not impossible. Hope you get my point. Its not about religion .... Its about possibilities. In the 16th century, if an oyo man wrote that he crossed seven ' worlds ' in his foot Journey from oyo to calabar... It doesn't mean calabar does not exist in the present day Nigeria. ![]() If you were to trek from Calabar to kano in the 16th century, you would not only see seven worlds, you would see tribes of of "giants " wen u get to kano since hausa people are tall. ![]() But it doesn't mean. " giants " never lived in kano according to the calabar man's account. Who knows the Biblical goliath could be 10-12 feets tall while isrealites were short 5-7feet in height. ![]() So HardMirror was wrong to have taken historical accounts written centuries ago literally as if they happened just a few years ago. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Ranchhoddas: 12:10am On Jun 29, 2016 |
oweniwe:Dragons are still very much in existence. Daenerys Targaryen has three. You Sir are really thinking outside your brain. 15 Likes 1 Share |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by veteran001: 12:10am On Jun 29, 2016 |
Why do we need to criticize and point out mistakes when doing so really does closely nothing meaningful to us? I happen not to be on anyone's side regarding this absurd and annoyingly time consuming argument. Let me quickly point out that both theists and atheist are religious people and will doubt that bold fact only if they originally knows nothing about religion itself. When one holds on firmly to a movement or belief system, be it a view in opposition to an existing belief system or a strong attachment to a belief system, in either ways, he/she becomes tied down to all the philosophies and principles associated with their stance, and with time, they become fanatical about their individual stance. So I suggest that no atheist should distinguish and pose as 'unreligious'. Atheists have always been the ones to 'want to disprove' but the reasons are not entirely clear why they do so. Most atheist would say religion is used to control people negatively but they don't reason what the world would be like if all the people on earth are to be free thinkers. "unbelievably terrible" is the word to describe that situation almost half way, so why all the disproving? if religion says 'don't kill', 'don't fight', 'don't so on and so forth' and it does good to us then why try to make it a folklore? What we should do is try to do away with unnecessary dogmas and stick to 'the real truth' which is the one you personally have evidence for, not some academic book somewhere which might have also been cooked as atheists would claim of the Bible. There are a lot we are yet to know as human beings, let no one fall into conclusion. Keep your belief to yourself just as you want Christians and Muslims to do in order to avoid squabbling, quarrelling, and fighting.. LET ME ASK OP, "DO YOU TRUST YOUR KNOWLEDGE TO AN EXTENT OF ESTABLISHING YOUR BELIEF ON SOMETHING AS CRUCIAL AS THIS?" 3 Likes |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Ranchhoddas: 12:17am On Jun 29, 2016 |
Image123:Why should a person take the ludicrous stories of the Bible by faith and not that of the Koran or any of the other sacred texts out there? 7 Likes |
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