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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Image123(m): 11:55pm On Jun 29, 2016 |
HardMirror: This is yet another ridiculous assumption on many faces. My good God, where are the thinking atheists,these wannabes on this forum are so unfortunate. And all the loud mouths were busy hailing these and taking it hook, line and sinker. i thought the saints were the sheepish ones, obviously i am wrong in that thought. Firstly, you are not in position to determine how a miracle should be done, abi you sabi do any? God has the Sovereignty to chose how He wants to do His miracle. Secondly, Noah was NEVER asked to single handedly build the ark. No Bible portion states or implies or alludes to this preposterous and poor thinking process. When you build your house or anyone builds his house, or like we say Goodluck Jonathan/Buhari built something, a stadium, hospital, road or whatever, it is not saying that they were the ones that were busy loading head pan and running up and down with shovel and wheelbarrow. This is commonsense. How then did you manage to think that Noah was the one that single handedly built the ark. Of course, as usual, you are WRONG. It is almost a hobby/custom with you though, no surprise. Thirdly, Noah had over a century to build the ark. There is no where that your "a year" analogy fits. Fourthly, there was only one window in the ark, no windowS like you claimed. Fifthly, always make sure to mention me or inform me privately before you come out to disgrace your critical reasoning and education this way. You are an engineer for God's sake, think before you talk. 1 Like |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Anas09: 12:03am On Jun 30, 2016 |
oweniwe:Guess what sir, that great mind you just asked those questions will never answer you. And, he claims to have once been a very serious pastor. He thinks when he says he was a pastor but now an atheist, every christian will throw their Bibles away and follow him. I have never come by such a daft. Talking about God opening the Deep. It wasn't just the Deep that was opened, Gen 1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. Genesis:1:7 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened. Genesis:7:11 Both the water which was gathered above the firmament and the one below the Deep were released. These kids sit down in their houses imagining how all these can be possible, when their feeble minds fails them, they come out showing their shallowness. 1 Like |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Image123(m): 12:07am On Jun 30, 2016 |
HardMirror: You conveniently ignored or are ignorant of speciation, which science teaches and says it can take as small as 50years for a new specie of an elephant to be formed. Well, what do i know? i'm the faith person, you imprisoned thinkers should come up with more of such nonsense. We have not even considered the food the animals will eat for about 160 days they were in the ark. And all the waste the animals will produce. The amount of smell and carbon dioxide and methane.You do not need to think or worry about it, God and Noah took care of it. Many biblical explanations fit these easily. |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Anas09: 12:09am On Jun 30, 2016 |
melanch:God bless you sir. Someone once challenged all the Nairaland atheists to show us what their contributions into the African and Nigerian societies were, they all ran and hid. All those making noise here, not one of them came up to say, Since I became an atheist, this and this are my outstanding archievements, and have contributed this and that to the development of the Nigerian economy. All their super intellects ends on NL. They hate God and wants everyone hating God along side. 3 Likes |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Image123(m): 12:10am On Jun 30, 2016 |
johnydon22: No one else expected a global flood duh. Noah built an ARK, a covered one with one window at that, not a boat. Seriously. |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Anas09: 12:12am On Jun 30, 2016 |
HardMirror:Just like you check the credibility of what you post? I challenged you to post your old posts and links while you were a Christian, let's see who you were, you went silent till today. You think you can actually take souls down? Try. |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Image123(m): 12:14am On Jun 30, 2016 |
HardMirror: i quoted this to reiterate the bolded, so that you are sure that i know exactly what you said and meant about Noah building the ark alone. As a sinner, i know your deceits. Also, add to your treasured amazement the fact that God was the one that locked the door of the Ark. Hopefully, if you add one real and sane thing from your studies of the narrative, it may help douse the poisonous effect of the remaining rubbish. |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Anas09: 12:19am On Jun 30, 2016 |
HardMirror:Why call up Johnnydon? Is it because you can't defend yourself? You come up here lying expecting Johnnydon to help you out. Well, Johnnydon, your disciple is in distress, come on up and deliver him. He is stock even with the super brain he acquired automatically as he became an atheist. shame on Satan and his broods. 2 Likes |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Image123(m): 12:26am On Jun 30, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas: Who told you(Ranchhoddas) not to? |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Image123(m): 12:30am On Jun 30, 2016 |
Okay, so i have done what the Bible says again. See how the OP and his cohorts do like their lord, yet again. Jam 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. This works so many times, i have lost count. |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by pxjosh(m): 12:39am On Jun 30, 2016 |
TrajansKong:This picture that u used.. What's the name of the movie where it was gotten from? |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Ranchhoddas: 6:40am On Jun 30, 2016 |
Image123:You and your people that come knocking at my door on sundays. |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Ranchhoddas: 7:02am On Jun 30, 2016 |
Image123:Speciation? Do you now accept the evolution theory. Or is it the normal blind copy and paste from answers in genesis. How do you manage to say ''speciation did it'' and ''God and Noah took care of it'' in the same post?. Why did sin not stop? 5 Likes |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by CAPSLOCKED: 7:09am On Jun 30, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas: I LOOK FORWARD TO THE GOVERNMENT TO HELP BAN THAT SILLY CRAP. BEFORE WE START TO ENGAGE IN PHYSICAL COMBAT WITH THOSE GUYS. 3 Likes |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by sonofthunder: 7:30am On Jun 30, 2016 |
Anas09:I've tried so much to ignore him previously... |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by sonofthunder: 7:34am On Jun 30, 2016 |
Image123:I didn't follow the trend down to this post but it had me laughing... I never really observed but thinking back, I seem to recognize similar situations in the past whereby they did flee 1 Like |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Nobody: 7:49am On Jun 30, 2016 |
Impressive counter arguments Image123. 1 Like |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by felixomor: 8:30am On Jun 30, 2016 |
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth..... Why will a person who doesnt believe the earth and the universe was somebody's idea and somebody's creation, believe the story of Noah's ark? There is absolutely no reason. (Mind you the story of the flood destruction resonates across multiple beliefs and even cultures) Your write up makes many assumptions based on the atheist point of view and that in itself is wrong. Firstly, you asked "Can the whole earth be covered with water?" Answer: Supernatural events begets supernatural events. Please why would you ask this question if you dont believe the earth was created? An almighty God who was able to create the earth and the heavens should not have a problem with that. Supernatural persons begets supernatural events You simply assumed that the water that destroyed the earth was from the ecosystem of the physical realm, and hence you based your conclusion that it can never be. You even went ahead to calculate the volume of water needed, to make you look intelligent. But you made a mistake unknowingly. You used a "constant" called Pi in calculating the volume of water "Pi" in itself remains a controversy. Mathematicians found it hard to even arrive at a consensus on its value. So you tried to resolve a controversy with another controversy. Well, and if I may ask you, have you seen the picture of "pi" before? Or you simply believe it exists because you saw it in a mathematics textbook. Hmmmm, that sounds like "religion" to me. Heb 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear..... And if you have a problem with how the earth was created by God, please tell us your own version of Creation lets evaluate it. And if you cant tell us your version, then there is no point in even discussing Noah's ark, because you dont believe its foundations. Secondly, you say the amount of animals Noah had to save was ridiculous Answer: Minus your assumptions Again you tried to look intelligent by estimating the "weight of insects" Some of The smallest insects have been found to weigh about 1/40,000 of a gramme And all these are part of the insects "species" you estimated as 10 grammes each What was the aim of doing that? Simple, you simply wanted to arrive at a figure so big so that it will make those who believe the story of Noah's ark (other religions inclusive) look stupid. You failed. It only shows that even in your atheism, You are not sincere. I have debated and met sincere atheists, and they put in more effort to make sure their facts are sincerely sought. Not your type. Your real aim is to try to make those who believe the bible look stupid, even if it means calling a spade a bottle. Moreover even if all you said about weight is true (which is not), What will make a person like me who believes that God who raised Jesus after 3 days and 3 nights (as evidenced by an empty tomb) will not be able to float anything on water. The answer is, absolutely nothing. Mind you, after the flood, God instructed that there should be "multiplication" all over again and this definitely involves genetics which will result in diversity. Genesis 8:17 Bring forth with thee every living thing that is with thee, of all flesh, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth; that they may breed abundantly in the earth, and be fruitful, and multiply upon the earth...... So trying to estimate all species doesnt really make sense, because after the flood came multiplication. Thirdly, you asked how will the animals have coped with breathing in the ark? The answer is in the Bible too - Faith Heb 11:7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith. Noah's faith made it work. And please if you want to know what faith is, go to dictionary.com, since you hate the bible so much. And even professors who are sincere, will tell you that many things have been achieved in science lately by faith, including cures in cancer and other ailments. Fourthly, I dont know why you are so fixated on "penguins"? Your assumption that there is no spiritual realm keeps making you to ask questions like "how penguins could be transported"? Please if I may ask if an animal was supernaturally preserved in an ark from a flood, what stops it from being supernaturally transported back to its home? The answer is nothing. And definitely, there more than a thousand and one ways that could have happened. Lastly, I have noticed people like you who like to say you are atheists will never want to take the bible holistically in your arguments as evidenced above. You just hop in, pick one or two sentences out of context, and come to nairaland and say people should throw away the best selling book of all time because you think you discovered something. You will never come to discuss things like prophecies that have been fulfilled from the bible, how the bible have predicted things we do today and things happening to countries now. Instead you hop in, pick one or two sentences out of context and argue, Sincere atheists dont do that. 1 Like |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by TrajansKong: 9:52am On Jun 30, 2016 |
pxjosh: It is from Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring. A story almost as unbelievable as the bible... |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by CltrAltDelicious(m): 2:18pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by HardMirror(m): 2:50pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
Image123:For someone that says a water of 15 cubits covered all mountains, how shall I ever take you serious? I know you have been wailing and mentioning me so many times and always disappointed that I don't give you attention. This is the very reason. You aint just that bright and worthy of a discussion. Read what you just posted. It makes sense to you because you are desperate to do away with your common sense and ready to call black with if it would prove your god right. 15 cubit tall mountain. Wonderful! 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by ValentineMary(m): 2:59pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
dairykidd:Actually 5,000 years ago, the topography was relatively the same. The most recent continental drift took place about 60-100 million years ago. Now we know who has a shallow brain. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by realmindz: 3:05pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
Anas09: Don't mind those demon possessed people on nl, the kingdom of hell are already on NL, trying all they could to take down souls with them to hell, because souls are sweeter than jollof rice in hell. These guys are planning a big barbecue in hell. Christians should watch and pray because the end time is near as the bible said, even though the earth has been in existence several billions of years ago, the end time is really now and Jesus will soon come down riding horses from the sky without using space ship. Jst watch how the whole world will see Jesus at the same time coming from the sky....(don't bother thinking how it will apen, it will jst apen)... Then those who fall for the antics of these NL demons will be left one earth and stars will crash on them (yes stars bigger than our sun will fall down on earth, don't question the physics of how it will apen, u wan burn for hell? who be ur father?) Christians! watch and pray 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by felixomor: 3:33pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
HardMirror: So you are yet to admit the wrong calculations and wrong information you posted? *We just sidon dey look* |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by CAPSLOCKED: 3:36pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
realmindz: RECOGNIZE A CHILD WHEN YOU SEE ONE. 2 Likes |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by felixomor: 3:54pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
TrajansKong: Fallacy of Misproportion! -----_-------------------- The last time I checked, Lord of the rings has only one author. You clearly need to study the history of the bible which is a collection of books from different inspired authors spanning milleniums and some even had no knowledgeof each other yet correlated. So, both cant be compared. Or is your own bible a single story? Please tell us the version. We will be happy to know |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Image123(m): 4:42pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
lol @OP
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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by johnydon22(m): 5:37pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
realmindz: hahahahahaha Amen brother!!! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by johnydon22(m): 5:43pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
Anas09:LOL.. You lot won't kill me abeg... Every atheist on this board is my friend not my disciple, i'm nobody's teacher. I am in fact the disciple here learning from all. There really isn't any need for me to step in seeing the argument is something i wouldn't like to dabble into, mature discussions get my attention now not emotional infantile banters.
Amen oo shame on satan and his broods if any of them exist... 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Rilwon: 6:09pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
CAPSLOCKED: Hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha lwkmd |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by realmindz: 6:51pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
Image123:Pls jst ignore that miserable atheist, we need to resist this devil and move closer to our loving jehova for protection. See the bible verse below for proof; Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? Shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it? 2 Likes |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by AccidentalGenius: 7:34pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
I'm an atheist. Been one since i was a little boy. I don't indulge in arguements with christians. Life is perspective. Not everyone will see life from your own point of view. Anyway why i've dropped this comment is because i've just read a funny christian comment. I must admit its a new one. I have'nt heard it before. Someone posted here that noah's ark had one window. well, i don't know about you christians but i know if i were in that ark along with the thousands of animals you believe were there for a month or more, i would have died of suffocation. Oh but what do i know? It might have been a very big window. God probably provided oxygen. another miracle 3 Likes 1 Share |
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