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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by LTSHANGY: 2:19pm On Jul 07, 2016
If Pogba really wants a real madrid move, i think we should forget about him and go for a player who really wants to play for united. Period!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by LTSHANGY: 2:23pm On Jul 07, 2016
Elamps, Rooney or mata, who will you prefer to be your No 10?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dubylhover(m): 3:09pm On Jul 07, 2016
LTSHANGY:
If Pogba really wants a real madrid move, i think we should forget about him and go for a player who really wants to play for united. Period!

yap..its obvious the lad wants the bernabeu and sees us as a second option...well like some peeps said,JTS not our money so they can spend it however they wish,but deep down I personally want d deal to fall through..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 3:50pm On Jul 07, 2016
I must be one of the very few united fans who do not want Pogba back at the Trafford.. Please stop telling me "we have the money!" We have the money so what! Must you spend that big on one player! And then IF he doesn't perform as expected Jose will still have to play him in matches so the money wouldn't be a waste!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 4:54pm On Jul 07, 2016
chistev12:
I must be one of the very few united fans who do not want Pogba back at the Trafford.. Please stop telling me "we have the money!" We have the money so what! Must you spend that big on one player! And then IF he doesn't perform as expected Jose will still have to play him in matches so the money wouldn't be a waste!
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:54pm On Jul 07, 2016
Dadehmola:


That's why I used the phrase "necessarily better" in my previous post...

Yeah, #10s & "hole men" have been synonymous with intelligent passing, craft & guile but football has evolved beyond that stereotyped mentality

At liverpool, Steven Gerrard thrived as a 2nd striker (nine & a half) not because he was the most intelligent passer of the ball.

Even our very own J.S park wàs deployed as in AM in certain matches - did it necessarily mean he was more intelligent/better passer than Scholes who sat in Midfield?

Thomas Muller is another player that has been deployed in a withdrawn C.F. role on numerous ocassions with Kroos Sitting behind - does it mean Muller is the more intelligent passer?

Nobody would even compare the passing abilities of Pogba to that of pirlo's (despite the fact that the Frenchman thrived in a more advanced position).

Elampiro, i'd say that Mourihno's decision to push Rooney upfront & nearer to goal is probably because the portuģese feels fat boy's goalscoring abilities would benefit the team better....not because of any yeye passing ability (that's clearly not Rooney's forte in this context )



You have brought some isolated cases. Generally the number 10 is a more intelligent and swift passer than the number 8.

Again, who was a better passer of the ball in Liverpool than Gerald? If you like at my list you would see Scholes, Schweinsteiger, Alonso, Xavi, Pirlo, etc all number 10 who became more famous as great passers when they dropped to the deep as 8 or 4.

Ones passing ability is less noticeable while in advanced position. If you check JS Park Assists and his involvement in counter attacks, you would see an intelligent defence splitting passer.

If anyone thinks Rooney cannot pass, he should ask how come his passes were the most adventurous in United last games when he returned from injury. Despite this, he had the highest pass accuracy in some of the games. If Rooney is classified as one who cannot pass, then it means Carrick has never been a good passer because Rooney outclassed him in April and May.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:55pm On Jul 07, 2016
slimghost:


I swear by Amadioha, you are a waste! Dafuq? I won't reply you again after this. Yes Rooney is a Modric and Iniesta moulded in one. Thank you.

You and all your generation a complete waste.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:02pm On Jul 07, 2016
lekkie073:
I don't get how somebody will continually support a player who is only remembered to play well once in 15 games.
Some things have no laid down value especially when it comes to services.

United as a whole had been playing good once in every 19 games. So don't isolate one individual.

The last I checked Rooney had good games for United in all his matches in April and May. He was our most productive player early in the year before his injury.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:06pm On Jul 07, 2016
LTSHANGY:
Elamps, Rooney or mata, who will you prefer to be your No 10?

Rooney of course.

28 years old Mata will likely retire as a waka pass number 10. He will never achieve what Rooney achieved from the number 10 position.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by diggz: 5:16pm On Jul 07, 2016
elampiro:


Rooney of course.

28 years old Mata will likely retire as a waka pass number 10. He will never achieve what Rooney achieved from the number 10 position.


Elampsbaba, You no know ball.. cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 5:17pm On Jul 07, 2016
elampiro:


United as a whole had been playing good once in every 19 games. So don't isolate one individual.

The last I checked Rooney had good games for United in all his matches in April and May. He was our most productive player early in the year before his injury.
how come u r the only one dat sees all these good performances. the only reasonable thing Rooney worth his wages last season is the move dat led to the equaliser. all other of his performances were not commensurate to his earnings at all...if he was being paid 50k weekly and he gives those rubbish weekly performances nobody would really be annoyed. but for more then £200k weekly, those performances should warrant him a jail term angry
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:42pm On Jul 07, 2016
lekkie073:
how come u r the only one dat sees all these good performances. the only reasonable thing Rooney worth his wages last season is the move dat led to the equaliser. all other of his performances were not commensurate to his earnings at all...if he was being paid 50k weekly and he gives those rubbish weekly performances nobody would really be annoyed. but for more then £200k weekly, those performances should warrant him a jail term angry

The reason is that you people refused to see. I am not the only one who sees. Rooney was EPL most ptoductive player of 2016 before his injury.

Between January 2nd and February Rooney scored 7 goals in 7 matches. He gave about 4 or 5 Assists that period (in all competition).


When he returned from injury, his midfield performance was the best in the whole EPL.

The problem is that you people already hate him and will never acknowledge the truth.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 5:43pm On Jul 07, 2016
elampiro:


Rooney of course.

28 years old Mata will likely retire as a waka pass number 10. He will never achieve what Rooney achieved from the number 10 position.
What has Rooney achieved as a No. 10?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:54pm On Jul 07, 2016
Lekkie073, below are the matches Rooney played on his return from injury. If you think Rooney was not superb in most of these matches, you are unrepentant biased fan. When he played the number 10 against Villa, he was outstanding and deserved to continue there, he was probably the best player on the pitch. But Gaal decided those passes were better used in midfield. Even when he went to midfield, he did mafnificiently well. The match day ratings from various sites are not far farfetched.


13 Apr 2016 West Ham 1 - 2 Man Utd

16 Apr 2016 Man Utd 1 - 0 Aston Villa

20 Apr 2016 Man Utd 2 - 0 C Palace

23 Apr 2016 Everton 1 - 2 Man Utd

01 May 2016 Man Utd 1 - 1 Leicester

07 May 2016 Norwich 0 - 1 Man Utd

10 May 2016 West Ham 3 - 2 Man Utd

17 May 2016 Man Utd 3 - 1 Bournemouth

21 May 2016 C Palace 1 - 2 Man Utd

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:56pm On Jul 07, 2016
patrickmuf:
What has Rooney achieved as a No. 10?

Rooney scored 34 goals playing from the number 10 in 2011/2012 season. He always scores goals from there.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:05pm On Jul 07, 2016
RuuDie:


Nothing we no go hear from Man Utd fans...

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Na true na. Anything I talk, I fit defend am.
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Louis van Gaal tactics left Manchester United players close to mutiny

One of Van Gaal’s more bemusing instructions was for his strikers not to shoot first-time from balls coming across the penalty area. Instead they were under orders to take a touch in front of goal, even if the relevant players felt confident enough to go for goal straight away. One example goes back to the opening day of the season when Tottenham Hotspur were the opposition and Antonio Valencia sent in a low cross from the right to pick out Rooney, unmarked, in the middle of the penalty area. It seemed like a relatively straightforward finish but Rooney took an extra touch because that was what Van Gaal had drummed into his players. Kyle Walker made a saving tackle only to turn the ball into his own net and Rooney looked almost sheepish as he headed back to the centre circle.

Over time, the players started ignoring the rule, complaining that they should be allowed to think for themselves (though the story of one player asking United’s chef to hard-boil him a couple of eggs to take home, on the basis he did not know how to do it himself, suggests that maybe some members of the squad do need coddling).

Other sources have revealed how players became so frustrated with Van Gaal’s instructions they took matters into their own hands and told him they wanted to play their own way. In one case, that player is said to have improved markedly as a result.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/may/22/louis-van-gaal-manchester-united-players-near-mutiny
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 6:11pm On Jul 07, 2016
lekkie073:
thank God say no be ur account Adidas and Chevrolet put our sponsorship proceeds cool

Abi?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 6:25pm On Jul 07, 2016
elampiro:
Lekkie073, below are the matches Rooney played on his return from injury. If you think Rooney was not superb in most of these matches, you are unrepentant biased fan. When he played the number 10 against Villa, he was outstanding and deserved to continue there, he was probably the best player on the pitch. But Gaal decided those passes were better used in midfield. Even when he went to midfield, he did mafnificiently well. The match day ratings from various sites are not far farfetched.


13 Apr 2016 West Ham 1 - 2 Man Utd

16 Apr 2016 Man Utd 1 - 0 Aston Villa

20 Apr 2016 Man Utd 2 - 0 C Palace

23 Apr 2016 Everton 1 - 2 Man Utd

01 May 2016 Man Utd 1 - 1 Leicester

07 May 2016 Norwich 0 - 1 Man Utd

10 May 2016 West Ham 3 - 2 Man Utd

17 May 2016 Man Utd 3 - 1 Bournemouth

21 May 2016 C Palace 1 - 2 Man Utd
no ratings can rule out the fact dat Rooney's wage is not commensurate to his services. period!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Spy360(m): 6:59pm On Jul 07, 2016
elampiro:


Mourinho is saying even he (Mourinho) can pass in the deep, so Rooney, a world class player should go to more advanced position where there is pressure to make passes.

Between number 8 and number 10 which is more difficult to pass?
Lets end this, mention Mou's likely favorite front three. Your options are Ibra, Martial, Mkhi, Rashford, Mata, and ofcourse Rooney.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dubylhover(m): 7:08pm On Jul 07, 2016
finally,low starts emre can,its about time...go germany
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 7:19pm On Jul 07, 2016
dubylhover:
finally,low starts emre can,its about time...go germany

If Germany lose tonight, you can be sure Dayo would blame emre can the "mediocre player from the EPL".
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:28pm On Jul 07, 2016
lekkie073:
no ratings can rule out the fact dat Rooney's wage is not commensurate to his services. period!

Only five players deserve their wage. DDG, Martial, Smalling, Blind and Valencia.

Even Mata has not earned his wage.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:34pm On Jul 07, 2016
Spy360:

Lets end this, mention Mou's likely favorite front three. Your options are Ibra, Martial, Mkhi, Rashford, Mata, and ofcourse Rooney.

Mourinho has played predominantly 4-2-3-1. So we should be talking of front four.

I honesty think Rooney will get in before Herrera and Mata. But we still have to wait. It is going to be another long season with many matches, so there are plenty matches to go round. The one who started on the bench might even end up being the coach's favourite as season progresses.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 7:36pm On Jul 07, 2016
elampiro:


Only five players deserve their wage. DDG, Martial, Smalling, Blind and Valencia.

Even Mata has not earned his wage.
in the course of last season, the only players Rooney performed better than are depay and fellaini....
all other united players had a better season than Rooney
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 7:36pm On Jul 07, 2016
chistev12:
I must be one of the very few united fans who do not want Pogba back at the Trafford.. Please stop telling me "we have the money!" We have the money so what! Must you spend that big on one player! And then IF he doesn't perform as expected Jose will still have to play him in matches so the money wouldn't be a waste!

Then you haven't heard of me. Nobody on this planet earth dead or alive can rival my passion with which I hate the Pogba rumors. I've never seen any player since my first breath that's more overrated than Pogba. I'd kill just to make sure his ghost comes nowhere close to Old Trafford. I'll sincerely curse Mourinho if that deal goes through. what sort of fuckèry is that for Christ's sake? I'd rather buy Coquelin, Kante, Matuidi or Medelc (my dream DM since last WC) than touch Pogba who had had a bad tourney before thier last match and suddenly the hype is back. May it never be well with Mourinho in this life if he goes for that overhyped wacko!!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dubylhover(m): 8:02pm On Jul 07, 2016
Dadehmola:


If Germany lose tonight, you can be sure Dayo would blame emre can the "mediocre player from the EPL".

hehe..they wont lose sha
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 8:24pm On Jul 07, 2016
Mehn schweinsteiger is having a wonderful game so far.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by GBR1(m): 8:32pm On Jul 07, 2016
parrotibaba:
Mehn schweinsteiger is having a wonderful game so far.
As in ehn, i'm still wondering if he's the same Bastian that plays for us.

TBH France are getting dominated heavily even without conceding. Germany is just too good for them.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by GBR1(m): 8:48pm On Jul 07, 2016
Penalty for France. Griezmann scores!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by GBR1(m): 8:49pm On Jul 07, 2016
That's an incredibly harsh call against Bastian but it's a penalty TBH.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 8:51pm On Jul 07, 2016
Mehn this referee eyes sharp pass eagle own shocked

Harsh penalty given against Germany
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Tvegas(m): 9:08pm On Jul 07, 2016
Pogba has not been spectacular in this match! Is this thesame player we want to buy for such huge amount?

I wish Bastian can replicate this kind of performance in a Man Utd shirt.

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