honourhim:


If you can find the husband of the woman that was killed and discuss with him you will still discover that there were times God delivered the woman from evil in the past.
You will even see that she has given several testimonies of God's protection in her church.
This time around death came and this is the way it came. There's nothing anybody can do about it.

Initially, she has been protected ? But this time around, it is a different case cos it involve death ? So, God's protection no they potent where death they ?

honourhim:


If you can find the husband of the woman that was killed and discuss with him you will still discover that there were times God delivered the woman from evil in the past.
You will even see that she has given several testimonies of God's protection in her church.
This time around death came and this is the way it came. There's nothing anybody can do about it.

Nothing anybody can do about it, including your god?

Christians just giving out ridiculous answers all in an attempt to speak on behalf of a God they claim knows and can do all things.

Dragonking:
When the disciples were killed and taken to heaven, doesn't that scenario fits into the description you just posted? Peter was crucified upside down and killed, his spirit was was saved from further evil and brought safely to God's heavenly kingdom, do you agree? This is the meaning. ..Why will God save you from being persecuted or killed for preaching the gospel and still take you immediately to his heavenly kingdom? You just copy and paste without seeking to understand the scripture that's why you end up confused. .
Like I stated earlier, Jesus specifically told us to flee to the next town when being persecuted for preaching the gospel. ..So why did he say so if there was a guarantee?

U said Paul's spirit was saved from further evil after tasting death in one of d most agonistc way ever known to man-kind ? Na wa oooooo, so if paul were to be non-christian, his spirit would have been tortured as well ? Have u ever seen anybody being killed and his spirit being held for further distruction ? U said his spirit was immediately rescued into heaven ? This statement is another controversial declaration that may brew another hot argument

tayooluwole:


U said Paul's spirit was saved from further evil after tasting death in one of d most agonistc way ever known to man-kind ? Na wa oooooo, so if paul were to be non-christian, his spirit would have been tortured as well ? Have u ever seen anybody being killed and his spirit being held for further distruction ? U said his spirit was immediately rescued into heaven ? This statement is another controversial declaration that may brew another hot argument

Paul knew what lies ahead, did he not? Why did he choose to continue? The answer is In Matt 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
This was what Paul held on to.
That's why i advise you to read and understand the Bible and not to look for controversies

Teempakguy:


peaceful death in itself IS a result of being saved from persecution. one doesn't die "peacefully" while being beheaded by ISIS militants for preaching the gospel for God's sake.

You have not answered anything. you are simply deluding yourself.

The question still stands. Why will A God promise to save his followers from evil, and then advise his followers to run from evil?

The question become even more complicated when you factor in God's supposedly empathic and loving nature. what loving God would sit and watch as his followers . . . or more colloquially, his children, die extremely horrible deaths, all while crying to him to save them, all in the name of, "They're coming to me anyway. a little pain can't hurt."

even the Atheists . . . the so called "Wicked" That the bible is always cursing here and there, live more peaceful lives than most Christians.

This is the problem. ..Like I have said, all what you posted didn't still show that there was a guarantee that God will save one from evil when preaching the gospel, even you confirmed it.. I have simply shown you a passage that showed that there is no complete guarantee. ..So bring up one passage to counter my me based on the topic and stop the rigmaroling.

Teempakguy:
but this same guy was behind all these statements:

psalm 121: 7

The LORD will keep you from all harm-- he will watch over your life;


Psalm 91:10

No evil will befall you, Nor will any plague come near your tent.


Proverbs 12:21

No harm befalls the righteous, But the wicked are filled with trouble.


2Thessalonians 3:3

But the Lord is faithful. He will establish you and guard you against the evil one.


2Timothy 4:18

The Lord will rescue me from every evil deed and bring me safely into his heavenly kingdom. To him be the glory forever and ever. Amen.


1John 5:18

We know that everyone who has been born of God does not keep on sinning, but he who was born of God protects him, and the evil one does not touch him.

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Wha . . . How the HELL is this not a guarantee?

WTF . . . you guys are so full of crap. your holy book has almost 10 different verses explicitly claiming that God will always protect those who believe in him. several more claiming that he never breaks his promises, even several more claiming that he will do WHATEVER his followers ask of him.

but hey, let's just put a little caveat that DIRECTLY contradicts the claims of NO CONDITIONS, so that the people pushing our propaganda get something to lean on when they get backed into a tight logical corner.


"God doesn't guarantee . . . "

Go self-service yourselves off.

You are not being sincere in your criticism and it smacks of one who is just out to mess himself up.
You quoted the book of psalm written by David while in the same bible David went thru afflictions and even said it that there is room for it in this life.
You also quoted the book of Timothy written by Paul while in that same bible Paul went thru afflictions and even wrote it that we will pass thru it..
Both Paul and David died when their time came.
You ignored all these points just because you want to mess yourself up. Continue.

hopefulLandlord:

Nothing anybody can do about it, including your god?

Show me where my God promised me that i wont die in this world?

tayooluwole:


Initially, she has been protected ? But this time around, it is a different case cos it involve death ? So, God's protection no they potent where death they ?

When its already in the bible that it is appointed for us to die. Also the bible said there is time for everything, time to live and time to die. Why will God stop you from dying when your time comes, when death is an act of God in the first place ?

dalaman:
Christians just giving out ridiculous answers all in an attempt to speak on behalf of a God they claim knows and can do all things.

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Yea God can do all things including taking back the life he gave you. The Lord gives, the Lord takes. There's nothing you can do to him than to rant.

honourhim:

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Yea God can do all things including taking back the life he gave you. The Lord gives, the Lord takes. There's nothing you can do to him than to rant.

Ayne when you show me this God of your giving me life then I will begin to take you seriously. Until then your God remains and imaginary human idea.

dalaman:

Ayne when you show me this God of your giving me life then I will begin to take you seriously. Until then your God remains and imaginary human idea.

Yea the ranting continues as i rightly said. Continue.

honourhim:


When its already in the bible that it is appointed for us to die. Also the bible said there is time for everything, time to live and time to die. Why will God stop you from dying when your time comes, when death is an act of God in the first place ?

My brother, no talk this for where d woman husband they ooooooo, d kind slap way he go give u go bad except if d husband is irrational type like u...d woman was killed in such a gory circumstances because it was her time to die ? That means if those behind her killing are eventually arrested, there is no need to bring them to book, since they are trying to help God in making sure that d woman did not live beyond her appointed time... So those who died of hunger as a result of bad governance died cos it is their time ? Those who died by accident as a result of bad road died cos it is their time ? Those who died of stray bullet died cos it is their time ? Those who died as a result of insecurity died cos it is their time ?Now, if I decide to commit sucide as a result of life pressure, I died cos it is time ? My brother haba....

If this ur position is something to go about, that means life it self is valueless...

UndisputedBosom:
Take your cry elsewhere "attention seeker".


There is a better life after this wicked one we are living now and is called "paradise" besides they only killed her body and not her soul which is the most important one

what is this zombie saying for goodness sake
the guy spoke the raw truth anyway since ur baba and mama is not killed why wont you be unleashing bullshit

Amberon11:
Are you dumb or what? Didn't you read the part where I said that even Buddhists see Jesus Christ? Buddhists don't see Buddha. They all see Jesus. Muslims don't see Mohammed, they all see Jesus. Traditional worshippers don't see Sango,,they see Jesus. Hinduists don't see whatever it is that represents their faith, they see Jesus. There is not a single account in the history of the entire world where a single soul saw Mohammed and that is because he's dead and buried but Jesus is alive.

Moreover, they were not all NDEs. Some saw Jesus without having NDEs. Angels have also been seen and its been all over the news. But Muslims as always are too backward to study and progress.

Lol ignorance is truly a disease....there is also not a single account of any soul seeing Jesus

There is a provision for it. "And I say unto you my friends, be not afraid of them that kill the body and after that have no more than they can do. But I will forewarn you whom you shall fear: fear Him which after He has killed has power to cast into hell: ye I say unto you, fear Him! She is not the first. John the Baptist, Stephen, James the Apostle, Paul tje Apostle and others died for their faith. It is not the way one died that really matters but his or her relationship with God and where he is she is heading. Persecution cannot stop the gospel.

tayooluwole:


Attention seeker ke !!! Answer ma question joor, who has ever gone outside this world ( by death ) and come back to know there is better life out there...

Please research very well. Many have come and gone back. Use ur google and youtube very well. Some scientists call it NDE (Near Death Experiences).

When you die, ask God. That's if you make it to heaven

If you end up in hell, ask devil to give you permission to send sms (spiritual messaging system) to God so he can answer your question.

UndisputedBosom:
Take your cry elsewhere "attention seeker".


There is a better life after this wicked one we are living now and is called "paradise" besides they only killed her body and not her soul which is the most important one

Abeg close your mouth

tayooluwole:


Attention seeker ke !!! Answer ma question joor, who has ever gone outside this world ( by death ) and come back to know there is better life out there...

The answer to your question can be found in a book titled "When God Doesn't Make Sense" by Dr James Dobson.

bigmeechfilms:



the way africans talk about the white man's religion like their forefathers where there wen it all happened.with all the holy holy plz name one great african nation.south africa where i live is good cos of the white ppl here if not it will b another failed black country.we blacks need to sit down and think.i dont believe in any other religion other than african religion.b4 u say sh*t about god punishing me.i am comfortably living good.i wonder how gullible Nigerians are when i watch all this pastors misbehave and see blacks like me falling for this useless nollywood acts

The Bible or Religion or even none?

@OP, haven't you heard as a christian if the slap you turn the other cheek for the second slap....

Amberon11:
Notice I never said "Christian heaven or hell". I said hell and heaven. There's no denominational hell.

That being said, 99.9999% of Muslims who have visited heaven or hell saw what matched the "biblical" descriptions of heaven and hell. They never had experiences matching the Islamic descriptions of heaven and hell. That invariably explains why no one has ever seen the 72 virgins and neither has anyone seen Mohammed. In fact they believe Mohammed is currently in hell, hence their prayers for the prophet to be granted jannah (heaven) by Allah.

But majority of those who have had divine visitations have seen Jesus.

Yes! reincarnation happens but I won't go into details due to your carnality as it would be pointless.

Anything else??

Stop lieing. No one has seen heaven or hell. It is all in your brain.

I know sey na like this kain threads Seun himself go carry go FP

Except John the beloved, the other apostles were killed in gruesome manners. It is like a sacrifice, more like a privilege, dying talking about God. As Christians, the Bible tells us about the dangers we will face while doing missionary job.

UndisputedBosom:
Take your cry elsewhere "attention seeker".


There is a better life after this wicked one we are living now and is called "paradise" besides they only killed her body and not her soul which is the most important one

In other words, you and other religious wingnuts aren't afraid of death since it's only the body that's killed and paradise is guaranteed, right?

Brainwashed hypocrites like you are the ones who quickly scamper to safety at the burst of a balloon when faced with death threats even when you mislead others with your claim of a paradise. Perhaps, you should just die and go enjoy your imaginary paradise. Yes?

Useless god that doesn't exist and is powerful in the bible and koran. I spit on that god's grave. Rubbish.

tayooluwole:
I have heard many cases of God's word preachers who have been killed, slaughtered and brutally mutilated while preaching or on other duties in respect to biblical God's commandment. Many were burnt alive while withing the church premises praying and praising God, many captured and were easily slaughtered, many were captured within their own house, raped and eventually killed and many more cases like that.

Seriously, all these occurrences left me with one critical question that has been dominating my mind for years, that why would God keep silent while such horrific murder is being unleashed on his consistent servant ? Why can't God, weather spiritually or physically, prevent such tragedy, to at least encourage other worshipers and consolidate the believe that God is truly mighty as it is being claimed. Preventing such tragedy, to me, has the efficacy of preventing many people from waking up one day and start thinking at all weather God exist or not.
Should we say our so called popular pastors, knows that there is no divine assistance they can enjoy while facing assassinating temptation and that is why most of them move all around with sophisticated security outfit...

I beg, rational whosiper should come to my rescue in answering this question ooo...

read bible u no go read. abi u b muslim

tayooluwole:
I have heard many cases of God's word preachers who have been killed, slaughtered and brutally mutilated while preaching or on other duties in respect to biblical God's commandment. Many were burnt alive while withing the church premises praying and praising God, many captured and were easily slaughtered, many were captured within their own house, raped and eventually killed and many more cases like that.

Seriously, all these occurrences left me with one critical question that has been dominating my mind for years, that why would God keep silent while such horrific murder is being unleashed on his consistent servant ? Why can't God, weather spiritually or physically, prevent such tragedy, to at least encourage other worshipers and consolidate the believe that God is truly mighty as it is being claimed. Preventing such tragedy, to me, has the efficacy of preventing many people from waking up one day and start thinking at all weather God exist or not.
Should we say our so called popular pastors, knows that there is no divine assistance they can enjoy while facing assassinating temptation and that is why most of them move all around with sophisticated security outfit...

I beg, rational whosiper should come to my rescue in answering this question ooo...

NEVER YOU QUESTION GOD ALMIGHTY, HE IS THE GIVER AND TAKER OF LIFE..the most important QUESTION is Where will you go after death?

@tayooluwole the questions you ask are very valid questions that any rational thinking person would require answers to.

This 6 minute video might provide some of the answers you seek.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1780884995479933&id=1724632871105146

Cheers.

honourhim:


You are not being sincere in your criticism and it smacks of one who is just out to mess himself up.
You quoted the book of psalm written by David while in the same bible David went thru afflictions and even said it that there is room for it in this life.
You also quoted the book of Timothy written by Paul while in that same bible Paul went thru afflictions and even wrote it that we will pass thru it..
Both Paul and David died when their time came.
You ignored all these points just because you want to mess yourself up. Continue.

Two can play at this game.

Jesus himself advised his disciples to run away from danger when it arose.

and not a single one of them heeded his advice. all of them stuck around for just long enough until they died seriously horribly deaths. Contradiction upon contradiction.

remember when he told them that they wouldn't have gone through the cities of isreal before he returned?


Well, mess up, I guess..

fortunity:

NEVER YOU QUESTION GOD ALMIGHTY, HE IS THE GIVER AND TAKER OF LIFE..the most important QUESTION is Where will you go after death?

Alright, You can shut the hell up now.