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Re: But Why Would God Allow Someone To Be Killed While Preaching His Words ? by Isaacmacdon(m): 3:16pm On Jul 12, 2016
analice107:

I had started responding to him, I stopped. I perceived he wants to disparage and malign, so I left him. Not everyone is worth a response.
Indeed. I'm not surprised at their ignorance. Its there in the Bible.
Re: But Why Would God Allow Someone To Be Killed While Preaching His Words ? by opineflu(m): 3:20pm On Jul 12, 2016
How can these things be compatible: we want to be Christians, disciples of Jesus Christ, who bore the cross for the whole world and chose to do so voluntarily, and yet we reject our own cross? Jesus says, "He who does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me" (Matt. 10: 38), and "Whoever does not bear his own cross and come after me, cannot be my disciple" (Luke 14: 27). One day Jesus will say to those who avoided their crosses, "I do not consider you to be My disciples!" Then the door to His kingdom will be closed. What severe judgment will come upon us, if we refuse to carry the cross that has been laid upon us and complain about it to God and man! Our complaints are usually accusations. If we bear our suffering by saying "Yes, Father" we will come to great glory one day above, and here on earth we will be led into an intimate fellowship of love with Jesus. But if we avoid the cross, we will experience just the opposite. Here on earth we will become unhappy, because we are separated from Jesus. Only those who are His true followers, who go the way of the cross with Him, will be near Him here, and then above for all eternity. If we want to be with Jesus and want our lives to end in the City of God, there is only one way-the way of the cross. Jesus is asking each of us personally "Will you choose My way of the cross?" He is beckoning to us in love, "Come, follow Me; take up your cross!" If we do not follow the call of Him who loves us more than anyone else, if we refuse to take up our cross and even rebel against it, we will have to hear the Lord say to us as He did to Peter, "Get behind me, Satan!" (Matt. 16: 23). For then the tempter has us in his grip. He will bring all those who do not want their crosses into the kingdom of hell. Then they will have to suffer much worse. Satan wants to use every means to deter us from going the way of the cross, because he does not want us to reach the kingdom of eternal joy. There our cross will change to joy, if we carry it for Jesus here. This is a decision which will have far-reaching consequences for all eternity. If we want to enter Jesus' kingdom one day and inherit the crown of life, we have to follow the Apostle Paul's advice, "Take your share of suffering as a good soldier of Christ Jesus" (2 Tim. 2: 3). We should surrender ourselves to suffering, for instance, if God lays a cross upon us, if we have to suffer unjustly, if people hurt us without reason, scold us and treat us badly, it is then that we must follow in His footsteps. "When He was reviled, he did not revile in return; when he suffered, he did not threaten; but he trusted to him who judged justly" (I Pet. 2: 23). If we want to choose the "ways in Christ" (I Cor. 4: 17), we will suffer everything; persecuted and reviled, we will bless; suffering unjustly, we will be "refuse", a doormat for all. Then we are on Jesus' side. Then He will recognize us as His disciples and want to share His glory with us above, giving us thrones and crowns. Those who have suffered with Christ and have patiently borne various types of suffering and afflictions, such as bodily hardships, disappointments, loneliness, the death of dear ones and family troubles, will inherit eternal glory with Jesus (Romans 8: 17). But if we belong to those who complain about every cross and are discouraged and even accuse God with the question, "Why me? Why do I have to suffer?" we could be destroyed by God's verdict. "But as for the cowardly . . . their lot shall be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone.. ." (Rev. 21: cool. So everything depends upon whether we really bear our crosses. But how can we get free when we are bound by fear of the cross? The first "must" is to recognize the reason for trying to avoid the cross! We need the insight of truth for our unredeemed, sinful nature. We need to repent of this sinful trait, which makes us guilty again and again. Whoever has recognized how contaminated he is with sin, and is really sorry about it and wants to be freed no matter what it costs, will willingly accept discipline and suffering of all sorts from God. For he tells himself soberly, "I need the crosses to purify and transfigure me into the image of Jesus and so reach the goal of heavenly glory." But whoever does not take his sins and the eternal goal seriously will find that every type of suffering is too much for him. He will complain about it and accuse God and man instead of honestly admitting that he needs suffering and chastening, and lamenting about his own weaknesses and sins. So we need to ask for contrition over this blindness. Then our attitude towards the cross will change and we will see His blessing in it. Simply by suffering in the flesh we stop sinning (I Pet. 4: 1). God allows a cross to enter a sinful area of our lives-so that the sin may be put to death, in this way we become transformed more and more into Jesus'image and one day will be able to see Him face to face. Through discipline we share His holiness (Heb. 12: 10) and without holiness, no one will see the Lord (Heb. 12: 14). For instance, the cross of losing earthly goods, if willingly accepted, has often freed people from their bondage to things of this world, making them free to live for Jesus and His kingdom. Or the cross of losing a beloved person, to whom we were bound, freed our soul to give Jesus undivided love and brought the greatest happiness into our hearts. The cross brings glory and deep joy even here on earth, because God the Father in His love cannot wait until eternity; He yearns to reward us here also. The second "must" for becoming free from trying to avoid the cross is to look at the Father, whose heart is full of love for His child and who carefully considers how much we can bear and what will be best for us. He gives us the very cross that can bring us to glory. He hides a wonderful treasure in our cross. We are to discover it: wonderful fruit, transfiguration, victory, eternal joy, oneness with Jesus. And we must tell ourselves again and again, "Because God is love, suffering is never the end of the story. God always has a way out of suffering; He always has comfort and aid, for He is my Father." Faith in the Father's love, which has given us this cross, will make difficult things easy and bitter things sweet. At the same time look at Jesus. He was the Crossbearer. Humbly bending beneath the heavy burden, He carried His cross lovingly to Calvary for us. He has gone on before us and levelled the ground for us so that we will not stumble. Now He is bearing our cross with us. He knows what it means to carry the cross, since He bore the sins and suffering of all mankind. He knows how to help and strengthen us. Should we not trust Jesus that we can bear it? Yes, if we bear our cross with Jesus, we will come closer to Him than ever before and experience His joy. So let us renounce our mistrust and stop thinking that God is not love and that He brings us suffering without comfort and aid. For such thoughts nourish our desire to avoid the cross and turn our cross into an unbearable burden. Then we will really become unhappy. The worst suffering is our own desire to avoid the cross. That is why we want to renounce this sin. In faith we want to praise the power of Jesus' redemption and experience this power in our lives. My Lord Jesus, You are called the Crucified Lord and the Crossbearer. I have chosen You as my Lord, given You my will and my love, desiring to follow You. Hear my plea: May You never have to say to me: "You are not worthy of Me; you cannot be My disciple", because I did not want to carry my cross. Grant me the grace to say "Yes Father" to every cross, trusting that it has been prepared for me personally and comes from the loving hands of the Father. It will bring me an abundance of divine blessing. Grant me grace to rejoice in my sufferings (Rom. 5: 3), because they transform me and prepare me for Your kingdom of joy and glory-and also give me intimate fellowship with You, my Lord Jesus, here on earth, and let me taste eternal joy. I thank you, my Lord Jesus, for showing us: In the cross is great fruit in the cross is glory in the cross is victory, power and resurrection. The cross frees my soul from this earth and draws me to heaven. The cross brings me gain here and above. Teach me to love my cross as a precious gift from Your hand, which I will thank You for in eternity. Out of love for You, my Lord Jesus, I wish to follow You. Make me a true cross-bearer. Amen.
Re: But Why Would God Allow Someone To Be Killed While Preaching His Words ? by tartar9(m): 3:23pm On Jul 12, 2016
analice107:

You are quoting Tabari? He was a renown Lair and a principal fabricator and plagiarist.
Get out of here and go treat your depression.
GET WELL SOON.
Says who?
Re: But Why Would God Allow Someone To Be Killed While Preaching His Words ? by EbolaParasite: 3:30pm On Jul 12, 2016
Amberon11:
I never knew the kind of person i quoted. Are you kidding me?? You're the ignorant one here my dear. Go and read history books, I won't school you.

Do you know how Christianity was spread in Africa?? What origin are you talking about? African witnesses never came forward to tell anyone that they were present at the creation on behalf of oduduwa, sango, oranmiyan etc. Can you even hear yourself? what origin? How could the first man be a witness at his own creation? Even Adam wasnt a witness at his creation. Exactly what did Oduduwa or any of them do to prove their sovereignty? Did they heal the sick, raise the dead etc? Jesus was the only one who did those in the presence of multitudes and up to this day, the followers of Christ still perform verifiable miracles.


Do you even know how Christianity was spread across Africa? Through signs and wonders, yes! Not forceful conversions.

Ever heard of Apostle Babalola? what about Benson Idahosa. These men did all manner of miracles. The whites invited him to the U.S, wanted to mock him so they brought tons of disabled in wheel chairs to him. To their surprise he healed them all.

Pre-independence Nigeria had 50% Muslims, 30% Christians and 20% traditionalists. Today Nigeria has a christian population of 51%. Why? because Jesus is alive and proves himself through signs and wonders unlike the dead Oduduwa, Sango, Mohammed etc.

Don't quote me again!!

Olodo. I see you have been fully brainwashed. Firstly, Christianity was spread to Africa through COLONIALISM and SLAVERY. The missionaries that came with the SLAVE MASTERS were the ones that started teaching our people so get that fact straight.

Again, I sincerely hope you didn't go to college because it seems you wasted your parents money. You claim, the Christian doctrine had proved witnesses. Abeg which proved witnesses? Is it not based on hearsay. Is it not what you were told? Even the Bible has been revised on numerous occasions. We know that human beings have been lieing since creation so how can you tell me that the STORY they told you is a PROVEN FACT? It is simply a story that was passed down. Every race has there own story. The Chinese have stories that predate the Christian story, same with the Budhists in Bhutan, the Africans, Indians, etc.

You will be very ignorant to think your own story supersedes all these stories simply because your SLAVE MASTER has brainwashed you.
All you have is FAITH and nothing else. NO EMPRIRICAL PROOF. All these people also have FAITH. Please tell me why your one FAITH is superior to theirs?

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Re: But Why Would God Allow Someone To Be Killed While Preaching His Words ? by oaroloye(m): 4:04pm On Jul 12, 2016
SHALOM!

Your problem in understanding comes from unwarranted presumptions which aberrate the Simple Problem, and make it incomprehensible.

(1) HOW DID YOU DETERMINE THAT THE VICTIM CONSIDERED WAS PREACHING GOD'S WORDS?

. 1st PETER 4:13-18.

13. But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings;
that, when his glory shall be revealed,
ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.
14. If ye be reproached for the Name of Christ,
happy are ye; for the Spirit of Glory and of God resteth upon you:
on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is Glorified.
15. But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief,
or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men's matters.
16. Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed;
but let him Glorify God on this behalf.
17. For the time is come that Judgment
must begin at The House of God:
and if it first begin at us,
what shall the end be of them
that obey not The Gospel of God?
18. And if the Righteous scarcely be saved,
where shall the Ungodly and the Sinner appear?


THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO talk all sorts of rubbish, and call it "Christian Preaching."

There are these... idiots who get up to preach outside a 5AM.

Is that how YAHSHUA preached The Gospel

If you are preaching nonsense, and calling it "THE WORD OF GOD," God is under no obligation to protect you.

(2) UNRIGHTEOUS PERSONS HAVE NO RIGHT TO CLAIM GOD'S PROTECTIONS.

. DEUTERONOMY 29:18-20.

14. Neither with you only do I make this Covenant and this Oath;
15. But with him that standeth here with us this day before The LORD our God, and also with him that is not here with us this day:
16. [For ye know how we have dwelt in the land of Egypt; and how we came through the nations which ye passed by;
17. [And ye have seen their abominations, and their idols, wood and stone, silver and gold, which were among them:]
18. Lest there should be among you man, or woman, or family, or tribe, whose heart turneth away this day from The LORD our God, to go and serve the gods of these nations; lest there should be among you a root that beareth gall and wormwood;
19. And it come to pass, when he heareth the Words of this Curse, that he bless himself in his heart, saying,


"I SHALL HAVE PEACE,
THOUGH I WALK
IN THE IMAGINATION
OF MINE HEART,
TO ADD DRUNKENNESS
TO THIRST."


20. The LORD will not spare him, but then The Anger of The LORD and His Jealousy shall smoke against that man, and all The Curses that are written in This Book shall lie upon him, and The LORD shall blot out his name from under Heaven.


THE PEOPLE WHO RECEIVED MIRACLE PROTECTION IN THE BIBLE were generally people who had served God their whole life.

The "Full-Gospel" Christian often taught to believe that, whereas they had half a dozen sex partners by age 21, drank alcohol until they became unconscious on several occasions, ate pigs, rabbits, shrimp, and other garbage, to form the protein structure of their bodies, though they have lied, cursed, and blasphemed with their mouth on many occasions...

Nonetheless- that has ALL GONE AWAY- once they said THE SINNER'S PRAYER, and got immersed in BAPTISM.

Well... the REALITY is that NONE OF THAT USUALLY WORKS.

The PROOF is these DEAD CHRISTIANS we get all over the place, when their IMAGINARY PROTECTION fails.

It takes a LOT of work to MAKE Divine Protection work.

If one Pastor preaches that you have to repent of every Sin you ever committed in your life, and repay everything you have defrauded other people of, in multiple, before you can be Blessed, and another Pastor says all you have to do is say, "I'M SORRY, LORD!" and you are ABSOLVED- which Pastor would you BELIEVE?

WHICH ONE WOULD YOU PAY 10% OF YOUR INCOME TO?

You see?

THAT is why Pastors do NOT tell their followers THE TRUTH!

3. GOD SENDS WICKED SERVANTS TO THEIR DEATHS.

. EZEKIEL 3:17-21.

17. "Son of Man, I have made thee a Watchman unto the House of Israel: therefore hear the word at My Mouth, and give them warning from Me.
18. "When I say unto the Wicked,


'THOU SHALT SURELY DIE;'

and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the Wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
19. "Yet if thou warn the Wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.
20. "Again, When a Righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumbling-block before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his Sin, and his Righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
21. "Nevertheless if thou warn the Righteous man, that the Righteous sin not, and he doth not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also thou hast delivered thy soul."


JUST BECAUSE GOD TALKS TO YOU, THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT GOD LIKES YOU.

God may be laying a stumblingblock in your path to TOTALLY KILL YOU- did you never think of that?

What could you have done to deserve that?

Any deviation from The Truth could do it.

(4) UNHOLINESS AND UNRIGHTEOUSNESS.

. MATTHEW 13:1-23.

The same day went Jesus out of the house,
and sat by the sea side.
2. And great multitudes were gathered together unto him, so that he went into a ship, and sat; and the whole multitude stood on the shore.
3. And he spake many things unto them in Parables, saying,
"Behold, a sower went forth to sow;
4. "And when he sowed, some seeds fell by the way side,
and the fowls came and devoured them up:
5. "Some fell upon stony places, where they had not much earth:
and forthwith they sprung up, because they had no deepness of earth:
6. "And when the Sun was up, they were scorched;
and because they had no root, they withered away.
7. "And some fell among thorns;
and the thorns sprung up, and choked them:
8. "But other fell into good ground, and
brought forth fruit,
some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some
thirtyfold.
9. "Who hath ears to hear, let him hear."
10. And the Disciples came, and said unto him,
"Why speakest thou unto them in parables?"
11. He answered and said unto them,
"Because it is given unto you to know
The Mysteries of The Kingdom of Heaven,
but to them it is not given.
12. "For whosoever hath, to him shall be
given,
and he shall have more abundance:
but whosoever hath not,
from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13. "Therefore speak I to them in Parables:
because they seeing see not;
and hearing they hear not,
neither do they understand.
14. "And in them is fulfilled the Prophecy
of Esaias, which saith,


'BY HEARING YE SHALL HEAR,
AND SHALL NOT UNDERSTAND;
AND SEEING YE SHALL SEE,
AND SHALL NOT PERCEIVE:
15. 'FOR THIS PEOPLE'S HEART IS WAXED GROSS,
AND THEIR EARS ARE DULL OF HEARING,
AND THEIR EYES THEY HAVE CLOSED;
LEST AT ANY TIME
THEY SHOULD SEE WITH THEIR EYES,
AND HEAR WITH THEIR EARS,
AND SHOULD UNDERSTAND WITH THEIR HEART,
AND SHOULD BE CONVERTED,
AND I SHOULD HEAL THEM.'


16. "But Blessed are your eyes, for they see:
and your ears, for they hear.
17. "For verily I say unto you,


'THAT MANY PROPHETS AND RIGHTEOUS MEN
HAVE DESIRED TO SEE
THOSE THINGS WHICH YE SEE,
AND HAVE NOT SEEN THEM;
AND TO HEAR
THOSE THINGS WHICH YE HEAR,
AND HAVE NOT HEARD THEM.'


18. “Hear ye therefore the Parable of the Sower.

19. 'WHEN ANY ONE HEARETH THE WORD OF THE KINGDOM,
AND UNDERSTANDETH IT NOT,
THEN COMETH THE WICKED ONE,
AND CATCHETH AWAY
THAT WHICH WAS SOWN IN HIS HEART.
THIS IS HE WHICH RECEIVED SEED
BY THE WAY SIDE.
20. 'BUT HE THAT RECEIVED THE SEED
INTO STONY PLACES,
THE SAME IS HE
THAT HEARETH THE WORD,
AND ANON WITH JOY RECEIVETH IT;
21. 'YET HATH HE NOT ROOT IN HIMSELF,
BUT DURETH FOR A WHILE:
FOR WHEN TRIBULATION OR PERSECUTION
ARISETH BECAUSE OF THE WORD,
BY AND BY HE IS OFFENDED.
22. 'HE ALSO THAT RECEIVED SEED
AMONG THE THORNS
IS HE THAT HEARETH THE WORD;
AND THE CARE OF THIS WORLD,
AND THE DECEITFULNESS OF RICHES,
CHOKE THE WORD,
AND HE BECOMETH UNFRUITFUL.
23. 'BUT HE THAT RECEIVED SEED
INTO THE GOOD GROUND
IS HE THAT HEARETH THE WORD,
AND UNDERSTANDETH IT;
WHICH ALSO BEARETH FRUIT,
AND BRINGETH FORTH,
SOME AN HUNDREDFOLD, SOME SIXTY, SOME THIRTY.' "


There are four Spiritual Energy States- and our default state, in which we naturally abide- is determined at our conception, by the mean of our parents' Spiritual Energy Levels when they conceived us.

. REVELATION 22:11.

11. "He that is UNJUST, let him be Unjust still:
and he which is FILTHY, let him be Filthy still:
and he that is RIGHTEOUS, let him be Righteous still:
and he that is HOLY, let him be Holy still."


If we are not conceived in HOLINESS, attaining our full Spiritual Potential will be difficult.

Even believing that such a thing exists, or is even possible, will be difficult.

Righteous person can produce some Spiritual Fruits- but not effortlessly.

The Holy person can produce any Fruit God wants, and effortlessly- needless to say, these persons are rare.

Most people fall unto the UNJUSTNESS and FILTHINESS categories. Righteous Parents can give birth to FILTHY and UNJUST children through EXCESSIVE SEXUAL INTERCOURSE- which will dwindle what Spiritual Energy they do have down to those levels.

Christians are invariably taught, that so long as they are married, they can have as much sex as they want.

That is not correct.

Not only are Spiritual Energy levels compromised, but sexual intercourse invariably adversely affects the unborn fetus.

The fetus can feel every vibration and impact upon their mother. This has a detrimental effect on their mind, which can emerge later in life.

[See: DIANETICS: THE MODERN SCIENCE OF MENTAL HEALTH, by L. Ron Hubbard.]

CHRISTIANS are usually taught that God hears them equally- whereas God hears the Clergy "more equally" than them.

The Truth is that those who are FILTHY cannot sustain their FAITH long enough to attain RESULTS- which would make them RIGHTEOUS, should they have succeeded. The UNJUST cannot even believe that any such thing as "FAITH" exists, nor can DO anything tangible.

Therefore, people who attempt to EMULATE what some RIGHTEOUS or HOLY person did, WILL FAIL, when they are merely FILTHY or UNJUST.

(5) PREACHING WHERE GOD HAS FORBIDDEN TO STAY.

. MATTHEW 10:23.

23. "But when they persecute you in this city,
flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you,


'YE SHALL NOT HAVE GONE OVER
THE CITIES OF ISRAEL,
TILL THE SON OF MAN BE COME.' "


YAHSHUA COMMANDED his Disciples to LEAVE places where The Gospel was not wanted.

The leaders of Denominations care more about their "Bottom Line" than about their Followers', therefore, they therefore wind them up like Toy Soldiers to go and invade "The Kingdom of Satan," and get converts.

Every person converted is a potential donor.

When Politics is involved, every New Convert is a potential VOTER- therefore it is in the interests of "Christian" Politicians to sponsor Churches to extend Missions into Muslim and Animist territories, in order to make converts.

This is an old trick- pioneered by the European Colonialists.

Some of the Missionaries may have been stupid and naive- never realizing, until it was too late, that they were being used.

But some, wicked, cynical types certainly knew what they were doing, and what they were being used for.

I have seen with my own eyes, a Presbyterian Missionary preaching to Full-Gospel Pentecostals during the early 1980s, in as many words, that Christians should do nothing to obstruct the Corruption that was coming upon our country.

It was not until 2004, when JOHN PERKINS published his CONFESSIONS OF AN ECONOMIC HIT MAN, that we had eyewitness confirmation that there is a planned strategy to destroy Africa, by people who deliberately target key persons who could stop their plans, or facilitate them.

Muslims are not entirely ignorant of the History of CORRUPT Christianity- BUT CHRISTIANS ARE.

I know nothing about this case, but I am certain that the lady was set up, and used as a "SHOCK-TEST" to see what the reaction would be- because that is how the ILLUMINATI works.

Christians need to start thinking for themselves, and consider whether the Religion they are practicing has anything in common with the Religion that YAHSHUA gave his life for.

Re: But Why Would God Allow Someone To Be Killed While Preaching His Words ? by egobetatoday: 5:00pm On Jul 12, 2016
DedeNkem:


Firstly, you singled out one religion out of more 4,200 religions to make your dumb comment. What about other religions?

Secondly, do you know there was a time Christianity was as violent as today's Islam?
Read this to learn;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_and_violence

you are the dumbass fellow here. its not my fault that you cant reason well - put pieces together. If your dumb self had read the comment i replied to you wouldnt be asking me 'what about other religion'. Maybe you should ask ISIS, Alqaeda, boko haram, alshabab that stupid question. mtchewww.

i wouldnt waste my time reading that page from a dumb fellow like you and i wouldnt still read it if it's on hinduism/budhism/ judhism and violence. As far as I'm concerned every other religion, even though having their peculiar issues give the world relative peace compared to Islam. As long as they fight amongst themselves, no problems unlike Islam who make other religion their targets.

Well, I'm glad that you were infuriated by my comment. kiss a transformer for all I care!
Re: But Why Would God Allow Someone To Be Killed While Preaching His Words ? by DedeNkem: 6:55pm On Jul 12, 2016
egobetatoday:


you are the dumbass fellow here. its not my fault that you cant reason well - put pieces together. If your dumb self had read the comment i replied to you wouldnt be asking me 'what about other religion'. Maybe you should ask ISIS, Alqaeda, boko haram, alshabab that stupid question. mtchewww.

i wouldnt waste my time reading that page from a dumb fellow like you and i wouldnt still read it if it's on hinduism/budhism/ judhism and violence. As far as I'm concerned every other religion, even though having their peculiar issues give the world relative peace compared to Islam. As long as they fight amongst themselves, no problems unlike Islam who make other religion their targets.

Well, I'm glad that you were infuriated by my comment. kiss a transformer for all I care!

You blabbed like an as*shole without making any sense!
Why not prove my point wrong? Id*iot!

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Re: But Why Would God Allow Someone To Be Killed While Preaching His Words ? by tayooluwole: 7:05pm On Jul 12, 2016
chiefojiji:

Read your bible bros.
John the Baptist as a case study was beheaded.
Even Stephen was stone to death.
I repeat, read your bible! If you ask this question again, I'll give you 11strokes of pankere!

But God saved Daniel from lions's den and he saved the 3 hebrew men by turning fire into air conditioner. But Y is d case of stephen, paul and d rest different ? Y being selective when it comes to d issue saving worshipers...
Re: But Why Would God Allow Someone To Be Killed While Preaching His Words ? by tayooluwole: 7:24pm On Jul 12, 2016
histemple:


"No weapon fashioned against ME shall prosper". This statement was a declaration by someone---not a promise from God. In the bible, you need to understand when God or Jesus is taking and when other followers or apostles are talking on their own.

What of dis bible verse ... At mere shouting of jesus christ all knee shall bow... But the woman that was killed in abuja days ago was beckoning for God's assistance by shouting blood of Jesus but only to be disappointed....

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Re: But Why Would God Allow Someone To Be Killed While Preaching His Words ? by kaylo31(m): 7:30pm On Jul 12, 2016
Jude 1
17 But, dear friends, remember what the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ foretold. 18 They said to you, “In the last times there will be scoffers who will follow their own ungodly desires.” 19
These are the people who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the Spirit. 20 But you, dear friends, by building yourselves up in your most holy faith and praying in the Holy Spirit, 21 keep yourselves in God’s love as you wait for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to bring you to eternal life.
22 Be merciful to those who doubt; 23
save others by snatching them from the fire; to others show mercy, mixed with fear—hating even the clothing stained by corrupted flesh.
Doxology
24 To him who is able to keep you fr
Re: But Why Would God Allow Someone To Be Killed While Preaching His Words ? by tayooluwole: 7:39pm On Jul 12, 2016
Aiykegenihus:
Dear Tayo kindly find time to see this video,its all the answers to yur many logical questions.Christianity is 'personal',I can introduce u to Mr Jesus but the decision to become really close pally with in comes from him personlly convincing u dt He is the guy to roll wit. Therfore I pray the holy spirit reveal itself to u 'personally' n when He does do share yur testimonies wt us here @nl. Cheers n God bless

Thank u sir, I will do that
Re: But Why Would God Allow Someone To Be Killed While Preaching His Words ? by histemple: 8:37pm On Jul 12, 2016
tayooluwole:


What of dis bible verse ... At mere shouting of jesus christ all knee shall bow... But the woman that was killed in abuja days ago was beckoning for God's assistance by shouting blood of Jesus but only to be disappointed....

Bros, even me gets confused about the content of the bible. Just yesterday somebody drew my attention to suggest that the late preacher should be blamed.

Matthew 10:22 When they persecute you, "run away" to another city because before you finished runing around to all the cities, I will come.

It seems to be that there are things the Whitemen who brought Christianity didn't tell us. Of all religions, Christianity is the most divided with conflicting beliefs and opposing doctrines.

From Catholic, Anglican, Celestial, Jehoval Witness, Presbyterian to Shabbat, all have different theories.

Pentecostal is another very broad topic.
Re: But Why Would God Allow Someone To Be Killed While Preaching His Words ? by danderson8: 9:23pm On Jul 12, 2016
Fabulocity:
God cannot be held responsible for the actions of man.

He cannot force man to act a certain way because it is the right way. . Free will.

But Soul was forced to do work of God
Re: But Why Would God Allow Someone To Be Killed While Preaching His Words ? by egobetatoday: 11:46pm On Jul 12, 2016
DedeNkem:


You blabbed like an as*shole you're without making any sense!
Why not prove my point wrong? Id*iot!

stupidity is encoded in your DNA so I'm not surprised. who ever proves stupidity wrong? An ignoramus like you invaded NL talking trash. ok...prove that Islam is not the most intolerant religion amongst the 4200 religions? You're are good specimen for my lab because your stupidity knows no bounds. Run along pinhead! Nairaland is not for your type.
Re: But Why Would God Allow Someone To Be Killed While Preaching His Words ? by raphieMontella: 12:19am On Jul 13, 2016
EbolaParasite:


Olodo. I see you have been fully brainwashed. Firstly, Christianity was spread to Africa through COLONIALISM and SLAVERY. The missionaries that came with the SLAVE MASTERS were the ones that started teaching our people so get that fact straight.

Again, I sincerely hope you didn't go to college because it seems you wasted your parents money. You claim, the Christian doctrine had proved witnesses. Abeg which proved witnesses? Is it not based on hearsay. Is it not what you were told? Even the Bible has been revised on numerous occasions. We know that human beings have been lieing since creation so how can you tell me that the STORY they told you is a PROVEN FACT? It is simply a story that was passed down. Every race has there own story. The Chinese have stories that predate the Christian story, same with the Budhists in Bhutan, the Africans, Indians, etc.

You will be very ignorant to think your own story supersedes all these stories simply because your SLAVE MASTER has brainwashed you.
All you have is FAITH and nothing else. NO EMPRIRICAL PROOF. All these people also have FAITH. Please tell me why your one FAITH is superior to theirs?

..thats why racisim wud neverr end..the white man is always ahead of us...stories of the bible..a book wit no actual original copy..copies upon copies...a jesus wit no historical proofs except a story book they call the bible...u guyz are even soft on them..im jst being reserved till smone comes for me....all my proofs are intact...tellin u benson idahosa..she doesnt even knw bout the fella...on wikipeddia he has a proven disclaimer to his miracles..i'e they never existed..well i'll jst be sippin gin till some oone quotes my comment..then the stupid christians wud see what theyy call revelations
Re: But Why Would God Allow Someone To Be Killed While Preaching His Words ? by raphieMontella: 12:28am On Jul 13, 2016
tayooluwole:


Thank u sir, I will do that

Mr tayo..i'd advise yu to check the origin of the bible...authenticity of jesus existence frm real facts nt hearsay accounts wit an open mind...i'd like u to explore all corners and see for urself if truly there is a god..cs there is none...proofs are all there waiting for u...the human brain controls the human nt a soul...so its eida u reject delusions of ur brain and view things clearer or u swim in an unending ocean of fallacies
Re: But Why Would God Allow Someone To Be Killed While Preaching His Words ? by DedeNkem: 3:34am On Jul 13, 2016
egobetatoday:


[s]stupidity is encoded in your DNA so I'm not surprised. who ever proves stupidity wrong? An ignoramus like you invaded NL talking trash. ok...prove that Islam is not the most intolerant religion amongst the 4200 religions? You're are good specimen for my lab because your stupidity knows no bounds. Run along pinhead! Nairaland is not for your type.[/s]

You're still proving you're an imbecilic as*shole! Arguing with you is like arguing with a rock!

Clinically-dumb religious n*uts like you are the main reason this world is so f*ucked up! Scientifically illiterates like you believe in f*ucking bible fairy tales than in science!

I told you there was a time christianity was as brutal as today's Islam but you keep blabbing nonesense like a huge m*oron!
Re: But Why Would God Allow Someone To Be Killed While Preaching His Words ? by egobetatoday: 10:03am On Jul 13, 2016
DedeNkem:


You're still proving you're an imbecilic as*shole! Arguing with you is like arguing with a rock!

Clinically-dumb religious n*uts like you are the main reason this world is so f*ucked up! Scientifically illiterates like you believe in f*ucking bible fairy tales than in science!

I told you there was a time christianity was as brutal as today's Islam but you keep blabbing nonesense like a huge slowpoke!

this turkey replied again? I dont fall in love with hopeless dolts like you. You may have to sing your stupid assertion in a song ya know? Its so hard for you to understand that I aint interested in you nor what you have to say? who's this imbecilic buffoon who wouldnt keep off my mention? Rubbish!
Re: But Why Would God Allow Someone To Be Killed While Preaching His Words ? by DedeNkem: 2:23pm On Jul 13, 2016
egobetatoday:


this turkey replied again? I dont fall in love with hopeless dolts like you. You may have to sing your stupid assertion in a song ya know? Its so hard for you to understand that I aint interested in you nor what you have to say? who's this imbecilic buffoon who wouldnt keep off my mention? Rubbish!

Your moronity is one of a kind and so ridiculous! LOL.

You can copy my words like a nentally r*etarded copycat, it's ok, that's what cretins do!.

Responding to your mo*ronic and incoherent posts actually reduces my brain cells drastically. That's what happens when an intelligent person descends so low to interact with a ninc*ompoop like you!

I know i piss you off. Go kill yourself or something, you're a worthless piece of skin.You f*ucking imb*ecile!
Re: But Why Would God Allow Someone To Be Killed While Preaching His Words ? by egobetatoday: 7:29pm On Jul 13, 2016
DedeNkem:


Your moronity is one of a kind and so ridiculous! LOL.

You can copy my words like a nentally r*etarded copycat, it's ok, that's what cretins do!.

Responding to your mo*ronic and incoherent posts actually reduces my brain cells drastically. That's what happens when an intelligent person descends so low to interact with a ninc*ompoop like you!

I know i piss you off. Go kill yourself or something, you're a worthless piece of skin.You f*ucking imb*ecile!

i didnt read this because its from an airhead. i need you to keep replying for the continuation of my experiment. Hopeless he goat!
Re: But Why Would God Allow Someone To Be Killed While Preaching His Words ? by DedeNkem: 10:43pm On Jul 13, 2016
egobetatoday:


i didnt read this because its from an airhead. i need you to keep replying for the continuation of my experiment. Hopeless he goat!

You didn't read my post but you replied. Hahaha! What a f*ucking re*tarded mo*ron!.
You keep proving you're a huge as*shole!
Re: But Why Would God Allow Someone To Be Killed While Preaching His Words ? by egobetatoday: 7:22am On Jul 14, 2016
[quote author=DedeNkem post=47515198]

You didn't read my post but you replied. Hahaha! What a f*ucking re*tarded mo*ron!.
You keep proving you're a huge .



i like as e dey pain you so...nonentity!.
yes, I'm more intelligent than u are.
e pain am

bye
Re: But Why Would God Allow Someone To Be Killed While Preaching His Words ? by DedeNkem: 2:26pm On Jul 14, 2016
egobetatoday:
.

You think you're piss me off? Hahaha! I'm joying seeing your moronity!
You dumbly claimed you were intelligent. LOL. You're as dumb as a Panda, you f*ucking d*imwit!
Re: But Why Would God Allow Someone To Be Killed While Preaching His Words ? by egobetatoday: 5:41pm On Jul 14, 2016
DedeNkem:


You think you're piss me off? Hahaha! I'm joying seeing your moronity!
You dumbly claimed you were intelligent. LOL. You're as dumb as a Panda, you f*ucking dimwit!

I'm JOYING seeing your moronity?
you think YOU'RE piss me off? grin. i couldnt help it hiohiohiohiohahahahahehehehe.


Now I agree you are 'INTELLIGENT'. *a wry smile on my face*

Any EXCUSE you give is accepted considering WHO YOU ARE grin
Re: But Why Would God Allow Someone To Be Killed While Preaching His Words ? by DedeNkem: 5:56pm On Jul 14, 2016
egobetatoday:


I'm JOYING seeing your moronity?
you think YOU'RE piss me off? grin. i couldnt help it hiohiohiohio.

Any EXCUSE you give is accepted considering WHO YOU ARE grin

the 'INTELLIGENT' guyyyyy

You can't even write English, you dumb f*uck!.
It shows how moronic you are!
Re: But Why Would God Allow Someone To Be Killed While Preaching His Words ? by egobetatoday: 6:15pm On Jul 14, 2016
DedeNkem:


You can't even write English, you dumb f*uck!.
It shows how moronic you are!

thats why you are INTELLIGENT since you didnt notice you wrote that...damn it! I've been wasting my time! Ok...is this for real?


how come u like 'm.oron', 'd.umb', and 'f.uck'?
'HUGE' asshole? what does this even mean? HUGE?
Pardon me... things are playing out better...oh goshhhh! smh
I QUIT!
Re: But Why Would God Allow Someone To Be Killed While Preaching His Words ? by DedeNkem: 11:00am On Jul 15, 2016
egobetatoday:


thats why you are INTELLIGENT since you didnt notice you wrote that...damn it! I've been wasting my time! Ok...is this for real?


how come u like 'm.oron', 'd.umb', and 'f.uck'?
'HUGE' asshole? what does this even mean? HUGE?
Pardon me... things are playing out better...oh goshhhh! smh
I QUIT!

You've confirmed you're actually brain-dead.
You don't know what "huge" means? Wow!

Have you heard about dictionary? You're probably too d*umb to know how to use it. Go beg a primary school student to guide you through.
Re: But Why Would God Allow Someone To Be Killed While Preaching His Words ? by croSStodds(m): 1:22pm On Jul 15, 2016
DedeNkem:


You've confirmed you're actually brain-dead.
You don't know what "huge" means? Wow!

Have you heard about dictionary? You're probably too d*umb to know to use it. Go beg a primary school student to guide you through.

Bros, Take pity na!!why are you this wicked?The deluded chump must be crying his eyeballs out of its sockets right now.
grin grin grin Lwkmd!!You are mad grin grin grin
Re: But Why Would God Allow Someone To Be Killed While Preaching His Words ? by DedeNkem: 8:48pm On Jul 15, 2016
croSStodds:
Bros, Take pity na!!why are you this wicked?The deluded chump must be crying his eyeballs out of its sockets right now.
grin grin grin Lwkmd!!You are mad grin grin grin


LOL
Re: But Why Would God Allow Someone To Be Killed While Preaching His Words ? by kaylo31(m): 9:18pm On Jul 17, 2016
Blasphemers shall surely see the wrath of God. I haf said my own
Re: But Why Would God Allow Someone To Be Killed While Preaching His Words ? by mikolo80: 12:50am On Jul 18, 2016
tayooluwole:
I have heard many cases of God's word preachers who have been killed, slaughtered and brutally mutilated while preaching or on other duties in respect to biblical God's commandment. Many were burnt alive while withing the church premises praying and praising God, many captured and were easily slaughtered, many were captured within their own house, raped and eventually killed and many more cases like that.

Seriously, all these occurrences left me with one critical question that has been dominating my mind for years, that why would God keep silent while such horrific murder is being unleashed on his consistent servant ? Why can't God, weather spiritually or physically, prevent such tragedy, to at least encourage other worshipers and consolidate the believe that God is truly mighty as it is being claimed. Preventing such tragedy, to me, has the efficacy of preventing many people from waking up one day and start thinking at all weather God exist or not.
Should we say our so called popular pastors, knows that there is no divine assistance they can enjoy while facing assassinating temptation and that is why most of them move all around with sophisticated security outfit...

I beg, rational whosiper should come to my rescue in answering this question ooo...
what exactly happened to the founder of Christianity, remind me
Re: But Why Would God Allow Someone To Be Killed While Preaching His Words ? by Ade345(m): 8:48am On Jul 18, 2016
tayooluwole:
I have heard many cases of God's word preachers who have been killed, slaughtered and brutally mutilated while preaching or on other duties in respect to biblical God's commandment. Many were burnt alive while withing the church premises praying and praising God, many captured and were easily slaughtered, many were captured within their own house, raped and eventually killed and many more cases like that.

Seriously, all these occurrences left me with one critical question that has been dominating my mind for years, that why would God keep silent while such horrific murder is being unleashed on his consistent servant ? Why can't God, weather spiritually or physically, prevent such tragedy, to at least encourage other worshipers and consolidate the believe that God is truly mighty as it is being claimed. Preventing such tragedy, to me, has the efficacy of preventing many people from waking up one day and start thinking at all weather God exist or not.
Should we say our so called popular pastors, knows that there is no divine assistance they can enjoy while facing assassinating temptation and that is why most of them move all around with sophisticated security outfit...

I beg, rational whosiper should come to my rescue in answering this question ooo...

James 1:13 says that when under trial, let no one say I am been tried by God for with evil things God cannot be tried nor does He try anyone. So any evil that happens to man cannot be attributed to God, rather its Satan (1John 5:19) that is causing the death and suffering that church goers and other humans face.
Please remember that Stephen, a devoted Christian in the first century was also killed in cold blood (and Saul/Paul who later became a disciple was present and supported it). Stephen was a righteous man, but he died like a common criminal. Please recall that the Christ- Jesus was also killed like a common criminal.
To summarize it all, Isaiah 55:9 says that the ways and thoughts of God is higher than that of man. The way we see things is different from how God sees things. He is far wiser than us. Even if what we expect of Him is not realised, we should just be patient and continued to look up to him. Remember God is Wisdom!

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