Reyginus:
Wow! Where did the President get the Fx for his child/ren in the UK? Where did the previous governments get the Fx for import and schooling abroad?

Horlufemi:
You are simply wasting your time being rational here. Nothing y you will ever say will make sense here. People want to eat food now now now. That's the only way they see a country progressing.

All I will say is that Nigeria should have diversified a long time ago especially when there was plenty. What do we want to export?

Reyginus:
The op doesn't have a rational argument in the first place. My problem is that he's coming from the 'logical' angle. If his point was on morality and promotion of humanity's cause by denouncing bad examples it would have been another argument.

A rational argument would have encapsulated the cause before the reaction. You don't jump like that to make a rational argument. Before you complain, logically, and insult any action by anybody you ought understand why he or she did that. Criticism comes from understanding.

when you wish all of us dead??...even your own self??:;;;;("%&..!!!!!

Semper247:
Now, let's even assume Buhari was never a choice, was Jonathan ever gonna be?

What has become of Nigeria and Nigerians these days got me thinking..... Is there still hope for any sanity or greatness?

It was obvious the direction the last admin was heading before they were ousted. Doesn't this bother many angry folks here what would have become of the country had last admin been allowed to stay on? It beats my imagination for some people to think things would have been easier had Jonathan been given second term considering the last had started borrowing to pay salaries months to the day they handed over. Even okonjo warned us to prepare for a very though economic period.
Now let me give an insight on what would probably happen if Jona had won...

The billions spent on the election would have ended up in individual pockets without further queries..

Crude price would still had fallen anyways..

Treasury empty plus fall in crude price will make life difficult for govt used to abundance..

Since economic policies were without direction even in abundance, it will be tougher in austerity..

More money would have been borrowed to solve immediate problems like salary payment..

The dasukis, metuhs, obanikoros, badehs , orubebes, fayoses and host of others would still be running things to the misery of the populace.

Now tell me how the combination of the above would have made things better than now.

Why hate the only man who has the courage to chase thieves and return sanity to the system?

You argue he only chases opposition but the moment his party member is caught inbetween, that member becomes a perceived opposition(abi when did saraki and dogara become opposition)

If tomorrow shekau is hunted down, he will become an opposition..

Let's just be rational in our criticisms of the president. People would have him if he were a "chop make I chop" president, but for how long do we continue in this mess.

Nairaland especially had become a platform of hate for the president. Even those that had never worked for #1 in their lives now complain things are hard. People here now find any avenue to criticize buhari. Any comment to deride the president now carries more than 100likes and u wonder why..

If u derive so much joy in seeing things done wrongly in Nigeria, think of posterity.... they will need a sane environment to survive.

Let's the youths be Rational and dump this partisan politics...

Things couldn't just have continued the way they were under Jonathan and we all know this..

Stop supporting criminals in the name of opposition..

THESE GUYS DONT KNOW YOU, THEY HAVE ALREADY INFLICTED LIFE THREATENING INJURIES INTO THE FUTURE OF THIS COUNTRY.

tsdarkside:



which type of Criticism from understanding is,when you wish all of us dead??...even your own self??:;;;;("%&..!!!!!

reflx:
OP
tell me if you do not know at least three family (nuclear and extended) who are jobless...
has the high cost of living not began to affect you....the cost of transport, fuel and foodstuff
tell me if your electricity bill hasn't skyrocketed and yet there's no improvement in light...
is your neighborhood safer now or your state experiencing less crime
tell me if you have any hope it will get better...or are you more optimistic than the Buhari led administration
they don't even look like there's hope.....
yet you ask why the hate!!!
if there was a parallel universe where Goodluck had continued i don't think things would have become this bad.
one year and three months yet they still blame the past administration.

i told friends - "if we later hear that looting occurred while we suffered in these years hmmmm 1967 will be a joke to what will happen!!!"
and they replied -"who told you looting is not ongoing as we speak..."

Reyginus:
Lol. I don't understand. Explain.

naijaboy756:
how will a living Nigerian love Buhari with the current realities on ground? How can u give a plane a blind or empty headed pilot to steer? That is why you are called a zombie. Rational thinking faculty absent by default. How much is Kerosene in your area now?

NgeneUkwenu:
[size=14pt]97% of those that hate Buhari on Nairaland are From South East, they cant stomach the fact that a Fulani Man defeated their ogogoro drunkarddd from Otuoke..

So they find Nairaland a veritable ground to vent their frustrations owing to the anonymous nature of this site....

Do you see them on Twitter,,? NO! Because they cant ,withstand the rigours of intellectual arguments there...[/size]

tsdarkside:



what the hellllll is your problem??...THE OL WORLD IS MESSED UP!!!!.....

we missed our opportunities since 1960...

who you wan blame for that in year 2016??....buhari??...

since buhari is in charge,we have atleast transparency..tranparency is important to reorganize even if you are poor....

and believe me,nigeria is poor,even south-africa is poor.....the only meaningful powers in africa is algeria and egypt...

stop lying to yourselves!!!

we were never the power-house of africa.....HUG-WASH!!!!...that was algeria!!!!........give me a break!!!!...

tsdarkside:


explain what...what am i going to explain to "the wailing wall of the south-yeast and the south-shout"??

you think i want to die on my feets explaining anything to "the wailing wall of the south-yeast and the south-shout"!!!....

Reyginus:
No. That's not the point. You say I wish him dead and asking you how and when?

Reyginus:
Semper247, it's simply human nature. No matter how good your intentions are if people suffer from the actions you put in it's bound to breed hate.

Mr Buhari has made more people angry than any other Nigerian President. And when people are angry the response is usually in the same unpalatable dose of its stimulant.

Have you asked why people are angry at the man? Or why people are hungry? If you did, honestly, you'd see their anger translated as hatred is not really illogical.

It is very logical to hate a person who destroys your wellbeing. You don't say the hatred the raped girl has for the rapist is stupid or illogical. You'd be acting illogical and Immoral to.

Even the Biblical Yahweh and Islamic Allah hate Satan or Shaitan. You should enlarge your scope to understand the argument and their position. What do you have to say to this?

Reyginus:
Wow! Where did the President get the Fx for his child/ren in the UK? Where did the previous governments get the Fx for import and schooling abroad?

tsdarkside:



your type..........maybe not you..!!!!

i dont have time for this.....adam,the promise was giving,adam must survive..!!!!....how??.....we dont give a shi shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii..!..

i say orange,you understand grapefruit anyways..sooo.. ....

9jii:
The previous gov got from higher crude oil price. U see hate blinds you from the fact.

Semper247:


@reyginus

Good points u raised. But I noticed these hateful and vile trends since his assumption of office. It now appears whatever is making this set of people angry is borne out of sentiment than logic.

It is well understood people are not happy for the economic downturn but it was envisaged and expected. The right things is to constructively criticize and proffer alternative to the method. When it degenerates to calling of names, it is no longer sensible.

How do u equate being angry to supporting looters?

I also feel the impact of recession but surely I can hope for a better tomorrow because there seem to be a break in govt wasteful spending and looting.

Why would a sane person prefer the continuity of status quo of the last admin..... We were surely heading towards greater trouble than we currently experiencing.

I will also have to ask u in what other ways exactly, apart from the terrible economy, is buhari making this people angry?

How would people kick against relaunching of "war against indiscipline "? Meaning we enjoy being undisciplined Abi?

Many things that this set of people hold in to just to pour out venom on the president.

fake hair,fake promise,fake morality,fake sense of humor,fake perception of existance,fake understanding,,,,nothing is rEAL BY BLACK PEOPLE...ALLL FAKE...!!!!..HOW DO YOU WANT SOMEONE TO TRUST YOU LIKE THIS!!!!!!.......CLOWNS!!!!

Semper247:


@reyginus

Good points u raised. But I noticed these hateful and vile trends since his assumption of office. It now appears whatever is making this set of people angry is borne out of sentiment than logic.

It is well understood people are not happy for the economic downturn but it was envisaged and expected. The right things is to constructively criticize and proffer alternative to the method. When it degenerates to calling of names, it is no longer sensible.

How do u equate being angry to supporting looters?

I also feel the impact of recession but surely I can hope for a better tomorrow because there seem to be a break in govt wasteful spending and looting.

Why would a sane person prefer the continuity of status quo of the last admin..... We were surely heading towards greater trouble than we currently experiencing.

I will also have to ask u in what other ways exactly, apart from the terrible economy, is buhari making this people angry?

How would people kick against relaunching of "war against indiscipline "? Meaning we enjoy being undisciplined Abi?

Many things that this set of people hold in to just to pour out venom on the president.

tsdarkside:



since buhari is in charge,we have atleast transparency..tranparency is important to reorganize even if you are poor....
.[/b]

reflx:


I hope tomorrow when you hear they also stole... you clap for this transparency... transparency and budgets are padded... transparency and all recruitments are northern inclined...
Transparency and most reruns are inconclusive
I am watching in 3D

Reyginus:
How does this address my argument?

Semper247:


@reyginus

Good points u raised. But I noticed these hateful and vile trends since his assumption of office. It now appears whatever is making this set of people angry is borne out of sentiment than logic.

It is well understood people are not happy for the economic downturn but it was envisaged and expected. The right things is to constructively criticize and proffer alternative to the method. When it degenerates to calling of names, it is no longer sensible.

How do u equate being angry to supporting looters?

I also feel the impact of recession but surely I can hope for a better tomorrow because there seem to be a break in govt wasteful spending and looting.

Why would a sane person prefer the continuity of status quo of the last admin..... We were surely heading towards greater trouble than we currently experiencing.

I will also have to ask u in what other ways exactly, apart from the terrible economy, is buhari making this people angry?

How would people kick against relaunching of "war against indiscipline "? Meaning we enjoy being undisciplined Abi?

Many things that this set of people hold in to just to pour out venom on the president.

tsdarkside:



my bros,,,ask dem dem....."the wailing wall of the south-yeast and the south-shout"

war against indiscipline is simple to explain....we never learned national indiscipline since 1960...never..!!!

we are always running after vanitys...fake hair,fake promise,fake morality,fake sense of humor,fake perception of existance,fake understanding,,,,nothing is rEAL BY BLACK PEOPLE...ALLL FAKE...!!!!..HOW DO YOU WANT SOMEONE TO TRUST YOU LIKE THIS!!!!!!.......CLOWNS!!!!

tsdarkside:


which what??...i already know your views...its not my job to convert you from a wailer to a change agent...

others are better in that ,not me........

Reyginus:
That's not true. It didn't begin with Buhari. President Goodluck Jonathan was bashed more than Buhari. He is the most insulted President of all time. With that been said your first point is invalid.

Yes I agree the right thing is to constructively criticise but in all honesty did you constructively criticize Goodluck Jonathan? This is what annoys a lot of people. The ruling party rained insults upon the former President bringing that position to the dustbin but now they want to be respected. It would be nice if you traced the cause of all these.

Being angry and supporting looters? Who are looters in a democracy? Whoever the government says are looters or whoever the court says did loot? Though we all suspect they are thieves. We all do. But, in a democracy, will a sane person tag a suspect as a thieve or a looter? Would it be wrong to say he's still a suspect until proven guilty? I think they are thieves but I will never for sure call them thieves till the courts decide. Isn't that the most rational thing to do?

Now you are missing it. What is true? What is false? Our perception of the truth most times is what we settle with as true. How do you convince a man who was feeding well in the past, buying rice 200 a mudu, garri 120 a mudu, fuel 87 naira but now buys it for the triple the price that the present is better. I think it is more logically correct to assume something was going well in the past. When you factor in the fact the current government has denied all their promise you see why the man is sane.

Yes. Buhari is making them angry. The economy is bad and they've been taught, through Lai Mohammed's utterances and other opposition, in the past, that everything begins and ends with the President. They have a right to be angry. And they are right. Buhari made statement about treating the whole unequally and you expect the whole to respond equally? No. Their anger is legitimate. Buhari has never really condemned the rampaging Fulani herdsmen and you ask why they are angry? He even called them Libyans.

It just anger that made people to kick against his WAI. Imagine a Family being very hungry and dying and all the father could think of is how to buy flowers to beautify the house. It's a good thing but it is not really what the family needs now. I understand their anger perfectly. It is not because the family hates the scent of flowers or the ventilation they bring but because their problem write now is not flowers.

And there are people who hate him for no reason. The same way a lot of people hated GEJ for no reason. In your street their is somebody who hates you for no reason. In my street some even hate that I walk like a boss. I understand this and the hatred for buhari is mostly logical but immoral.

tsdarkside:



look bros...i can not speak for all(you called zombies)..

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jonathan is a basstard,after all evidence against him!!!!!......

kanu is a basstard and a traitor,after all evidence against him!!!!!.!!!!!....

Reyginus:
Lol. See what I'm talking about. You are only disgusted by your neighbors hatred for your heroes but you want to keep your hate intact. Hatred for humans is wrong.

Where's the evidence against Jonathan or Kanu? You see, some of the people condemn are better than you and some are like you. You want them to she's their hate while you wear yours like a garment.

tsdarkside:


ofcourse i must hate to survive...this two want to destroy what i grow up with and belongs to me and you...only thing that still belong to my and you in the entire world....


how can i be happy with both of them....??...

NgeneUkwenu:
[size=14pt]97% of those that hate Buhari on Nairaland are From South East, they cant stomach the fact that a Fulani Man defeated their ogogoro drunkarddd from Otuoke..

So they find Nairaland a veritable ground to vent their frustrations owing to the anonymous nature of this site....

Do you see them on Twitter,,? NO! Because they cant ,withstand the rigours of intellectual arguments there...[/size]