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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by msogunro: 2:48am On Aug 12, 2016
For those who may be interested, The geophysicist has posted some information about the recent geological survey done at my site.

https://www.nairaland.com/3236298/know-geophysical-investigation-borehole-drilling/1#48220887
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 3:20am On Aug 12, 2016
3strikes:
Make una help me thank Engineer AbdulwasteCX for sending some God fearing workers to my rescue o [s]regarding the yeye roof that Bosun Brabus /N3xt of Next home did for me. roof leaking from day one for almost one year now[/s]......we had to redesign and re-roof the thing. so far am confident the roof wont leak again [s]unless bosun go climb am for night and make holes on it. grin grin grin grin grin. but i trust my abooki maiguard ....na bow and arrow he kuku dey use.[/s]



Not my thing to quote you bro but this is serious? Did I hear you say redesign?

God is great! So, the roof will eventually be redesigned. You fall my hand bro!


Well done abdulwastecx.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 3:25am On Aug 12, 2016
msogunro:
For those who may be interested, The geophysicist has posted some information about the recent geological survey done at my site.

https://www.nairaland.com/3236298/know-geophysical-investigation-borehole-drilling/1#48220887


Nice. Following with passion. The guy is good.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 3:31am On Aug 12, 2016
msogunro:
For those who may be interested, The geophysicist has posted some information about the recent geological survey done at my site.

https://www.nairaland.com/3236298/know-geophysical-investigation-borehole-drilling/1#48220887

So Oga mi, with all the turanchi from Larwin, what is the conclusive summary of getting water from the borehole. All those geological oyinbo too much for me ni o.

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by msogunro: 3:35am On Aug 12, 2016
mufutau55:


So Oga mi, with all the turanchi from Larwin, what is the conclusive summary of getting water from the borehole. All those geological oyinbo too much for me ni o.

Hajji M.

Haha... It's too much for me too. All I understood was 90m and 5k per meter.

My attention is focused on my fence now. After, I'll get a second opinion on the borehole. My cousin is asking neighbors about their water situation so I'll see if I should go with a borehole or well.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 3:38am On Aug 12, 2016
Nicholas007:
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This one that you built an enclosure fit to hold back a Dinosaur in Jurassic Park.

God dey grin

I know Hajj would be upset that you posted an ad in his thread in violation of the rules but he'll like to know the price of such. He likes to keep riff raffs like me at bay.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 3:42am On Aug 12, 2016
msogunro:


Haha... It's too much for me too. All I understood was 90m and 5k per meter.

My attention is focused on my fence now. After, I'll get a second opinion on the borehole. My cousin is asking neighbors about their water situation so I'll see if I should go with a borehole or well.

But you have the survey in hand.

Need to do same soonish.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 3:42am On Aug 12, 2016
EgunMogaji:

This one that you built an enclosure fit to hold back a Dinosaur in Jurassic Park.

God dey grin

I know Hajj would be upset that you posted an ad in his thread in violation of the rules but he'll like to know the price of such. He likes to keep riff raffs like me at bay.

Oga mi. If nah better advert with good info and prices, we go just annoy small... but all those useless advert are the ones I hated. I think I can even tolerate advert better than all the rofo-rofo fight.

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 3:44am On Aug 12, 2016
mufutau55:


Oga mi. If nah better advert with good info and prices, we go just annoy small... but all those useless advert are the ones I hated. I think I can even tolerate advert better than all the rofo-rofo fight .

Hajji M.

I know not of what you talk about grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by msogunro: 3:47am On Aug 12, 2016
EgunMogaji:


But you have the survey in hand.

Need to do same soonish.

Yes. I have the geo survey in hand
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 3:56am On Aug 12, 2016
msogunro:

Yes. I have the geo survey in hand

Na wah o. My place for Sango-Otta nah only 150k, the water dey commot like lagoon for the past six years now. The only problem I had was with Chinese pump they put in it... I changed that to good Italian submersible pump... and sice then nah water yanfu-yanfu o.

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 4:19am On Aug 12, 2016
mufutau55:


Na wah o. My place for Sango-Otta nah only 150k, the water dey commot like lagoon for the past six years now. The only problem I had was with Chinese pump they put in it... I changed that to good Italian submersible pump... and sice then nah water yanfu-yanfu o.

Hajji M.

It's quite sad though that three of us "Americans" are even discussing portable water in our residence in Nigerias 2016

God where is your eye? Help my country and her people.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by msogunro: 4:28am On Aug 12, 2016
mufutau55:


Na wah o. My place for Sango-Otta nah only 150k, the water dey commot like lagoon for the past six years now. The only problem I had was with Chinese pump they put in it... I changed that to good Italian submersible pump... and sice then nah water yanfu-yanfu o.

Hajji M.

Ah. oga it dey pain me. 450k no b small tin o
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by msogunro: 4:33am On Aug 12, 2016
EgunMogaji:


It's quite sad though that three of us "Americans" are even discussing portable water in our residence in Nigerias 2016

God where is your eye? Help my country and her people.

Very sad.

I often ask myself, "what the heck are you doing?"
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 4:41am On Aug 12, 2016
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 4:55am On Aug 12, 2016
msogunro:


Haha... It's too much for me too. All I understood was 90m and 5k per meter.

My attention is focused on my fence now. After, I'll get a second opinion on the borehole. My cousin is asking neighbors about their water situation so I'll see if I should go with a borehole or well.

If I may ask bro, what are the challenges you envisage in a terrain as yours? Or areas of concerns that builders, neighbours, contractors and other experts might have mentioned to you (consciously or subconsciously).

For example, the fence you're doing. What are the challenges? And how do you plan to address them?

Just asking.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by msogunro: 5:23am On Aug 12, 2016
n3xt:


If I may ask bro, what are the challenges you envisage in a terrain as yours? Or areas of concerns that builders, contractors and experts might have mentioned to you (consciously or subconsciously).

For example, the fence you're doing. What are the challenges? And how do you plan to address them?

Just asking.

I'm not a builder, nor have I built a custom home before. I talked to a few people before I flew back and inquired about what I should look for in land prime for building. I saw the view from my site and immediately fell in love. Everything that I should have been considered about became an afterthought.

So far, excavation has been an issue because the soil is extremely tough. I expect this to be true when I begin construction of our house.

Even before the geo survey, I suspected that we would need to dig deep. It's at the top of a hill so that was expected.

Because of the high elevation, it gets windy at times and I've been told on several occasions that will need to be addressed for the fence and the house. I'm actually going with 9" blocks instead of 6" block for the fence because of the wind. Luckily, my uncle is an engineer and after visiting my site shortly after purchasing it he said the same thing.

Until my old lady runs out of new ideas and we finalize the floor plan and design, I won't know until we do a full evaluation of the site and plan with real pro's.

From your experience, what are some challenges you think I may run into?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 5:54am On Aug 12, 2016
msogunro:


I'm not a builder, nor have I built a custom home before. I talked to a few people before I flew back and inquired about what I should look for in land prime for building. I saw the view from my site and immediately fell in love. Everything that I should have been considered about became an afterthought.

So far, excavation has been an issue because the soil is extremely tough. I expect this to be true when I begin construction of our house.

Even before the geo survey, I suspected that we would need to dig deep. It's at the top of a hill so that was expected.

Because of the high elevation, it gets windy at times and I've been told on several occasions that will need to be addressed for the fence and the house. I'm actually going with 9" blocks instead of 6" block for the fence because of the wind. Luckily, my uncle is an engineer and after visiting my site shortly after purchasing it he said the same thing.

Until my old lady runs out of new ideas and we finalize the floor plan and design, I won't know until we do a full evaluation of the site and plan with real pro's.

From your experience, what are some challenges you think I may run into?



I've lived in hilly terrain for the most part of my life and to a large extent I knew what to expect. A shallow foundation due to nature of the ground (strong and stiff).

However, one most often overlooked challenges of this type of terrain is drainage and water run-offs (surface or rainwater).
For me, I won't do a traditional strip foundation just because the ground is solid. I'll do Pad footing at short intervals works best. Isolated footing just like what agarawu23 showed in few pages back will work for me.

More importantly is the need for a retaining wall. If no one has mentioned this, soil do move and cracks do occur as a result. So whether it's recommended or not, I'll do a retaining wall anyway.
The boulders may not be useless as you may see now (they were there for a reason). When the earth is disturbed, it takes some time for it to be restored to its natural state.

___________
This explains the reason why a house in sagamu has a reinforced concrete ground beam. There's absolutely no reason for this according to the design engineer but since it has no adverse effect on the build I say "Nothing Spoil"


Well done sir!

Don't take this as an expert recommendation o! I'm just loving the build and admiring the strategies. And I like critiquing designs and processes.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 6:11am On Aug 12, 2016
Isolated footing

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 7:50am On Aug 12, 2016
n3xt:
Isolated footing

This project is going to be high rise building with this type of footing
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 8:00am On Aug 12, 2016
topsy23:


This project is going to be high rise building with this type of footing

It doesn't have to be a foundation design for high rise or mega structures. It equally work for small builds. A study of construction from the Asian countries (Phillipines, Thailand, Malay, Cebu, Kerala) will show you how they build their houses.

Check http://www.coolthaihouse.com/origCTH/coolroof.htm

http://www.coolthaihouse.com/origCTH/coolfoundationcolumn.htm

I study the construction methods of this countries because it has a lot of similarities (better alternatives though) to the way we build here.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 8:26am On Aug 12, 2016
n3xt:


It doesn't have to be a foundation design for high rise or mega structures. It equally work for small builds. A study of construction from the Asian countries (Phillipines, Thailand, Malay, Cebu, Kerala) will show you how they build their houses.

Check http://www.coolthaihouse.com/origCTH/coolroof.htm

http://www.coolthaihouse.com/origCTH/coolfoundationcolumn.htm

I study the construction methods of this countries because it has a lot of similarities (better alternatives though) with the way we build here.

That is the standard way to build isolated, combined or continuous pad footings.

In Nigeria, we just incorporated isolated strip footings to pad footings for small residential frame structures because we are too use with building with strip.

The method above requires lot of cut and filled expecially when the ground topography is sloppy and since we hardly grade our site to remove top vegetables soil before construction, it make sense to use pad footings with strip.

Check out some of these foundation of a small paint house added to an old bungalow.
In this project an isolated pad base together with grade beam were used.

The pad footings are 1.2m x 1.2m (4 ft x 4ft)
Depth of the footings 1.2m
Thickness of footings is 450mm
Section of foundation columns 450 x 225mm

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 8:28am On Aug 12, 2016
topsy23:


This project is going to be high rise building with this type of footing

This is a small project with shallow footing of say 1.2m x 1.2m. It is going to be for a small one storey or two storey building at most.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 8:32am On Aug 12, 2016
n3xt:


Not my thing to quote you bro but this is serious? Did I hear you say redesign?

God is great! So, the roof will eventually be redesigned. You fall my hand bro!


Well done abdulwastecx.

Thank you boss...
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 8:37am On Aug 12, 2016
abdulwastecx:


That is the standard way to build isolated, combined or continuous pad footings.

In Nigeria, we just incorporated isolated strip footings to pad footings for small residential frame structures because we are too use with building with strip.

The method above requires lot of cut and filled expecially when the ground topography is sloppy and since we hardly grade our site to remove top vegetables soil before construction, it make sense to use pad footings with strip.

Check out some of these foundation of a small paint house added to an old bungalow.
In this project an isolated pad base together with grade beam were used.

The pad footings are 1.2m x 1.2m (4 ft x 4ft)
Depth of the footings 1.2m
Thickness of footings is 450mm
Section of foundation columns 450 x 225mm

Thank you for the bail out. I wish I can share some of the materials from the Affordable Housing Conference in Singapore last year.

You'll see a lot of prefab work, pads, and passive designs.

We will get there one day!
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Larwin(m): 8:39am On Aug 12, 2016
mufutau55:


So Oga mi, with all the turanchi from Larwin, what is the conclusive summary of getting water from the borehole. All those geological oyinbo too much for me ni o.

Hajji M.

smiley smiley smiley, oga mi and I tried to be simple with my turanchi ooo, I limit the use of technical terms, if my professors see all the terms am using they could kill me grin...

Lols the thing is borehole drilling is complex, even up to installation like the example of pump u gave now, thats why I don't go into installation with my clients except if they demand.... I only recommend.

@msogunro, permission to explain the water situation in your area here.

there is a borehole at a site adjacent your site (where ppl normally pack cars when they visit your site) from my inquiry they stopped at 60m I don't know the reason behind that sha. And if you follow that slope downward as if your approaching a valley the Wells in that area have water at around 6-8m. All these are surface water though and it might surprise you if they are empty in the dry season and better still you won't want to rely on surface water for your household use.

There is also a spring on a duplex around that area which am targeting for the owner, funniest thing is that the owner has already dug a septic tank very close to the point but he don't have any choice than to go ahead.

I just believe that with God, it's going to be successful we are nothing but just scientists.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 8:52am On Aug 12, 2016
mufutau55:


Sorry, I didnt have it saved.. may be we can copy Spyder himself.

@Spyder880

Hajji M.

I usually plan a decking to last for 3 weeks, except for unforseen circumstances which might prolong the work for a few more days, at worst is 4 weeks even if it's a double flat of 3 bedrooms.

The first week will be spent with the carpentry team laying the wooden platform, second week will be the turn of the iron fitters to fit the decking beam, then lay the mat thereafter, without returning the mat, the electrician should be baking his "concrete biscuits,"

Third week will be a week for everyone, while the electrician and plumber are combining same time to fix their conduit pipes, the iron fitters will be returning his mat while the carpenter will be framing the sides and covering the spaces below the beams in preparation for the cast.

On my part, I stand to supply good quality materials, send n wood first, iron rods next, electrical and plumbing fittings and finally the cement and sand/chippings for the cast proper. I will also be planning with the casters from week 2, working out arrangements for the water and poking tools plus all other works.

It's always a busy, yet interesting process which I have enjoy doing. I've got at least 85 decking slabs under my belt cheesy

Picture shows the last one, completed just 48 hours ago.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FreeWorld23: 8:56am On Aug 12, 2016
Workers trying to chase bees away with fire but ended up burning a new constructed house and king post angry angry

https://www.nairaland.com/3282851/fire-razing-nearly-completed-house#48410123

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 9:05am On Aug 12, 2016
Excuses Excuses Excuses !!

You did a bad job out of spite as the owner sacked you and you smelt the coffee before, now you are trying to claim credit that you suggested a redesign was needed all along ?

I have some questions

Why was this not specified from the onset ? Abi you didnt know what the roof was going to be like from when you started.
Which kind of evil person continues with an idea that you are sure would not work.
Was the elevation of the roof you did at the beginning the correct one/correct height and did you make provisions for the water to escape, I guess only the chateau gets this kind of treatment even though its stolen customer funds /materials from customers sites that built the chateau ?
The roof was leaking, a redesign was needed to improve the design but PRIMARILY to stop the leaks ? If the roof was not leaking, the redesign was not going to the necessary, so it means you did a botched job from the start as the roof you did failed in its primary objective, lets forget aesthetics now.

There are thousands of houses in Nigeria with a not so perfect roof design (so many face me i face you houses), but the functionality still works (provide cover against the elements and not leak be it through holes or the design, the roof you did started leaking in less than 6 months)

I am guessing this kind of story is not new with Bosun Shoyoye, then you start to display google pictures as if we do not know how to use google, if you do not know it, you are finished as a builder/quack on NL.



n3xt:


Not my thing to quote you bro but this is serious? Did I hear you say redesign?

God is great! So, the roof will eventually be redesigned. You fall my hand bro!


Well done abdulwastecx.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 9:13am On Aug 12, 2016
Oga spyder880

More grease to your elbow, I have copied everything you said inside my notebook. Maybe one day Bosun can come and learn.

85 decking slabs under your belt, no complaints whatsoever. I am sure we can all take something away from that.

spyder880, this last decking I do not see any plumbing pipes shooting out. Is there any reason for that ?

the concrete biscuits, is it something that is charged for separately ?



spyder880:


I usually plan a decking to last for 3 weeks, except for unforseen circumstances which might prolong the work for a few more days, at worst is 4 weeks even if it's a double flat of 3 bedrooms.

The first week will be spent with the carpentry team laying the wooden platform, second week will be the turn of the iron fitters to fit the decking beam, then lay the mat thereafter, without returning the mat, the electrician should be baking his "concrete biscuits,"

Third week will be a week for everyone, while the electrician and plumber are combining same time to fix their conduit pipes, the iron fitters will be returning his mat while the carpenter will be framing the sides and covering the spaces below the beams in preparation for the cast.

On my part, I stand to supply good quality materials, send n wood first, iron rods next, electrical and plumbing fittings and finally the cement and sand/chippings for the cast proper. I will also be planning with the casters from week 2, working out arrangements for the water and poking tools plus all other works.

It's always a busy, yet interesting process which I have enjoy doing. I've got at least 85 decking slabs under my belt cheesy

Picture shows the last one, completed just 48 hours ago.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 9:19am On Aug 12, 2016
Thanks for the explanation. That resonates well with me. I am sick and tired of google pictures or pangolo light ideas that may not apply to some of the challenges we face in Nigeria.

I guess that pangolo truck carburetor light was from Asia as well grin grin


abdulwastecx:


That is the standard way to build isolated, combined or continuous pad footings.

In Nigeria, we just incorporated isolated strip footings to pad footings for small residential frame structures because we are too use with building with strip.

The method above requires lot of cut and filled expecially when the ground topography is sloppy and since we hardly grade our site to remove top vegetables soil before construction, it make sense to use pad footings with strip.

Check out some of these foundation of a small paint house added to an old bungalow.
In this project an isolated pad base together with grade beam were used.

The pad footings are 1.2m x 1.2m (4 ft x 4ft)
Depth of the footings 1.2m
Thickness of footings is 450mm
Section of foundation columns 450 x 225mm

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by 44chux(m): 9:41am On Aug 12, 2016
spyder880:


I usually plan a decking to last for 3 weeks, except for unforseen circumstances which might prolong the work for a few more days, at worst is 4 weeks even if it's a double flat of 3 bedrooms.

The first week will be spent with the carpentry team laying the wooden platform, second week will be the turn of the iron fitters to fit the decking beam, then lay the mat thereafter, without returning the mat, the electrician should be baking his "concrete biscuits,"

Third week will be a week for everyone, while the electrician and plumber are combining same time to fix their conduit pipes, the iron fitters will be returning his mat while the carpenter will be framing the sides and covering the spaces below the beams in preparation for the cast.

On my part, I stand to supply good quality materials, send n wood first, iron rods next, electrical and plumbing fittings and finally the cement and sand/chippings for the cast proper. I will also be planning with the casters from week 2, working out arrangements for the water and poking tools plus all other works.

It's always a busy, yet interesting process which I have enjoy doing. I've got at least 85 decking slabs under my belt cheesy

Picture shows the last one, completed just 48 hours ago.

Wow.

And to think I quarrelled with my team for almost missing their 2weeks schedule due oversight of annual 7days rain falling in same period.

Ungrateful me!!!

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