airmark:




Like master like slave. When you catch a shameless thief , he will start asking foolish questions like is it only me stealing ? others are also thieves. Thats why dolts like you would be defending your corrupt board members giving flimpsy excuses. The other time dayo wanted to write international exam fraudulently for someone. There must be scamming flu dancing shakiti bobo in your blood streams. Shameless lots.

Awon omo odarans! "scamming flu dancing shakiti bobo." Mo tun gbo titun!

You people no go keel me with all sorts walai! These days, especially on this thread, with the severity and weird intensity of demented barking Ajakaja-40 is displaying, anti-rabies injection is the next best thing for me.

Who in their right mind will ignore the case of corruption laid against the top bosses in their club and then start running his diseased mouth that referees in a different league are corrupt. When I said Ajakaja-40 is dangerously stewpeed, just punish yourself by reading his comments and you would know, the idioot cannot reason on his own. Never has, and never will. Ramizaki wannabe!

'Apoche cra cra brain', 'apoche cra cra dialect'.....only an idioot understands what this babbling idioot is yapping about.

Pataki:


Awon omo odarans! "scamming flu dancing shakiti bobo." Mo tun gbo titun!

You people no go keel me with all sorts walai! These days, especially on this thread, with the severity and weird intensity of demented barking Ajakaja-40 is displaying, anti-rabies injection is the next best thing for me.

Who in their right mind will ignore the case of corruption laid against the top bosses in their club and then start running his diseased mouth that referees in a different league are corrupt. When I said Ajakaja-40 is dangerously stewpeed, just punish yourself by reading his comments and you would know, the idioot cannot reason on his own. Never has, and never will. Ramizaki wannabe!

'Apoche cra cra brain', 'apoche cra cra dialect'.....only an idioot understands what this babbling idioot is yapping about.

Arindin Incorporated

Only you understand the kin ede werepe wey you just type for there.

Keep licking yourselves like Coldstone Ice cream. Awon gaylords oshi

You and your Apoche cra cra partner are clearly incapable of contributing anything intelligent to the discourse. If you were not inebriated with Air Apoche cra cra's s€men you would know not to link Bayern Munich to an incident that it was not directly involved in.

Two mega eediots that lack the gift of discernment

......Man I love this thread

Mueller brace and Kimmich with a debut goal for Die Mannschaft

Too easy for the boys

Muller brace and Kimmich

Bayern boys representing again

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HAPPY 28TH BIRTHDAY TO JEROME BOATENG

WORLD CUP WINNER,
CL WINNER

A GREAT MAN

Pataki:


Awon omo odarans! "scamming flu dancing shakiti bobo." Mo tun gbo titun!

You people no go keel me with all sorts walai! These days, especially on this thread, with the severity and weird intensity of demented barking Ajakaja-40 is displaying, anti-rabies injection is the next best thing for me.

Who in their right mind will ignore the case of corruption laid against the top bosses in their club and then start running his diseased mouth that referees in a different league are corrupt. When I said Ajakaja-40 is dangerously stewpeed, just punish yourself by reading his comments and you would know, the idioot cannot reason on his own. Never has, and never will. Ramizaki wannabe!

'Apoche cra cra brain', 'apoche cra cra dialect'.....only an idioot understands what this babbling idioot is yapping about.

I tell you. Even dayo is just enduring his foolish contributions most times because of dearth of active bayern fans. You know in the absence of beautiful peacock some will settle for cockroach's flying ability for entertainment.

Craze people

Thomas Müller with goals 33 and 34 for the Mannschaft. #9 all time

raumdeuter:
HAPPY 28TH BIRTHDAY TO JEROME BOATENG

WORLD CUP WINNER,
CL WINNER

A GREAT MAN

Long Live the TANK. Keep shaming the haters, the gypsy and apoche cra cra on this forum

The Spanish Effenberg also turned 28 a few days back. These guys are just hitting the prime age for footballers lets hope for more greatness

airmark:


I tell you. Even dayo is just enduring his foolish contributions most times because of dearth of active bayern fans. You know in the absence of beautiful peacock some will settle for cockroach's flying ability for entertainment.

Shey jaw no dey ache una ni? You phools go develop lockjaw at this rate. Better go find aboniki rub on top. Awon adofuro oshi

You are merely a Fulani Herdsman, a brainless apoche cra cra shekpe fan oscillating mindlessly from thread to thread, polluting the atmosphere with your toxic and supersonic brainfarts.

You try to be a pundit but your low IQ always lets you down.

Nihilist:
Again these are unsubstantiated allegations...which obviously need time be investigated

As of today though, there has been no proof offeredor evidence tendered. Halsey might put his hand in his kitchen cabinets and accidentally retrieved a satchet of ewedu and smokeke it instead of his usual lush, before going to twitter to yarn...nobody knows.


What we do know though, is that police, olopa, AK,FBI, Ciao, Interpol and even Bakassi boys are investigating the criminals thar run your club..one of them done even already chop beans.

You guys are more crooked than the gait of a one legged man doing the denge pose.

Bayern Scamich. Onijibiti FC.

Dem don dey confess

Nihilist:
But we all know that Manyoo is the pdp of EPL though...

Ferguson used to bully refs anyhow.

Plus Fellaini jumps on the pitch running around elbowing people in the face and I don't remember him getting banned...

And of course, who can forget the guy in the number 12 shirt for the red devils....Howard Webb.

Halsey has a point...at least when it comes to manyoo

Paul Scholes

I don’t find elite football as interesting to watch any more, especially in England. You hear about people saying English football’s the best football there is around. I think Spain’s by far the best league. Germany has better teams. In Italy probably the strength in depth isn’t great. They talk about Italy being a bad league but I don’t think English people look at it. They say it’s boring. No chance. The Juventus team would beat any team in this league. They came up to Manchester City and beat them easy. But we have this interpretation of the Italian league that it’s rubbish


https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/sep/05/paul-scholes-non-league-football-premier-league

The Spanish league’s the best by far if you’re judging on the European competitions. In the quarter-finals of the Champions League and the Europa League in 2015–16, they had six of the 16 teams. Nearly half of them. The Premier League had just two.

There needs to be a real step up in quality in England. Other than Sergio Agüero, Kevin De Bruyne and David Silva, we don’t have the best players. All the best players are in other countries.

The best players are in Spain or at Bayern Munich and Juventus. We’re linked with big players – Gareth Bale is a top player – but we don’t get them now. Not any more. You never see a Lionel Messi coming over here, you never see a Neymar in the Premier League.

debroslink dmcdad, nihilist, pataki ibime, A40 homesteady bykebyke sebod pelvicky

raumdeuter:


Dem don dey confess

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/09/04/mark-halsey-reveals-incident-he-claims-he-was-told-to-lie-about/

Halsey has even stated the exact match he was ordered to alter evidence. And I'm sure there are countless matches similar where other refs have been gagged. Kwarupshin!!!

I'm not surprised that bald Igun Mike Riley is at the center. I have always suspected him

raumdeuter:
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Kimmich is listed as a defender. I wonder if that is where Ancelotti primarily sees him

raumdeuter:
The Spanish league’s the best by far if you’re judging on the European competitions. In the quarter-finals of the Champions League and the Europa League in 2015–16, they had six of the 16 teams. Nearly half of them. The Premier League had just two.

There needs to be a real step up in quality in England. Other than Sergio Agüero, Kevin De Bruyne and David Silva, we don’t have the best players. All the best players are in other countries.

The best players are in Spain or at Bayern Munich and Juventus. We’re linked with big players – Gareth Bale is a top player – but we don’t get them now. Not any more. You never see a Lionel Messi coming over here, you never see a Neymar in the Premier League.

debroslink dmcdad, nihilist, pataki ibime, A40 homesteady bykebyke sebod pelvicky

Honestly, this is nothing but the truth albeit EPL fanboys won't wanna admit it.

Given, EPL is the most watched and most entertaining (whatever that means) and maybe the most competitive too, but that doesn't make it any better than the rest. As far as quality is concerned, EPL is very low and highly overrated. For all the fuss created by the English media, EPL is ridiculously subpar in terms of the quality of play and even the quality of players. Funny enough though, EPL boasts of the best deals as far as finances are concerned. Also, they boast of very goos coaches very now and then, yet, they are very poor in terms f competing amongst Europe's bests.

I mean, anybody wey say him get power, shey na to dey beat him younger brothers and sisters inside house him go take prove him power? Of course not! He would need to challenge others outside the confinement of his house to prove his mettle.

So, the earlier they realise they seldom play good football and start learning while also reducing the amount of hype, the better for them.

raumdeuter:
The Spanish league’s the best by far if you’re judging on the European competitions. In the quarter-finals of the Champions League and the Europa League in 2015–16, they had six of the 16 teams. Nearly half of them. The Premier League had just two.

There needs to be a real step up in quality in England. Other than Sergio Agüero, Kevin De Bruyne and David Silva, we don’t have the best players. All the best players are in other countries.

The best players are in Spain or at Bayern Munich and Juventus. We’re linked with big players – Gareth Bale is a top player – but we don’t get them now.Not any more.You never see a Lionel Messi coming over here,you never see a Neymar in the Premier League.

debroslink dmcdad, nihilist, @pataki ibime, A40 homesteady bykebyke sebod pelvicky

What are they coming to look for there?

bykebyke:
What are they coming to look for there?

Them wan go see how nice London bridge dey.

raumdeuter:
The Spanish league’s the best by far if you’re judging on the European competitions. In the quarter-finals of the Champions League and the Europa League in 2015–16, they had six of the 16 teams. Nearly half of them. The Premier League had just two.

There needs to be a real step up in quality in England. Other than Sergio Agüero, Kevin De Bruyne and David Silva, we don’t have the best players. All the best players are in other countries.

The best players are in Spain or at Bayern Munich and Juventus. We’re linked with big players – Gareth Bale is a top player – but we don’t get them now. Not any more. You never see a Lionel Messi coming over here, you never see a Neymar in the Premier League.

debroslink dmcdad, nihilist, pataki ibime, A40 homesteady bykebyke sebod pelvicky

It's an obvious truth many Epl fans know but some fail to admit. They talk about smaller teams defeating the bigger ones which makes the league competitive. Many fail to know that the league is all about pace and power with little technique and skills as against what's obtainable in Spain.
The media too never helped their case by over hyping average players to high heavens making them believe they are the best only to disappear into the thin air when it matters most.
Little wonder a normal/good player will leave Spain for Epl only to become boss while the best players in Epl still find their ways to Spain to live their dream.

How did this discussion dissolve into something about leagues and comparison?



Case 1
Karl Heinz Rummenigge failing to pay tax on watches; http://www.espnfc.com/german-bundesliga/story/1613004/bayern-munich-ceo-karl-heinz-rummenigge-accepts-fine
They let this one go off easily and he paid his penalty/fine but he currently has a criminal record in Germany.

Case 2
Uli Hoeness tax fraud case worth up to €28.5m.
He spent time in jail https://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/mar/13/uli-hoeness-sentenced-three-and-a-half-years-prison-tax-evasion-germany
He departed the club in tears.


When he got released "The former Bayern Munich president Uli Hoeness has been released from prison on suspension after serving half of his three-and-a-half-year jail term for tax evasion, Bavaria’s justice ministry has announced.

Hoeness, a former player for the club who was sports director for 30 years before taking over as club president in 2009, was convicted in March 2014 for evading €28.5m in taxes."

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/feb/29/bayern-munich-uli-hoeness-tax-evasion

Case 3
Franz Beckenbauer currently Bayern's honorary president
He is facing up to five years in prison after being placed under criminal investigation over his role in the alleged 2006 World Cup bribery scandal.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/09/01/franz-beckenbauer-under-criminal-investigation-amid-world-cup-co/

I can understand if a single past president of a club is involved with fraud and other illegal financial acts because they are human beings too but it becomes worrying when it's actually 2 past presidents of a big club like Bayern.

Actually Bayern have 3 presidents involved in such disgraceful acts. We can say one of such individual is simply a bag egg and if we refer to 2 of such events as simply coincidences, what can we say about 3?

I support United and my club is big, successful and very rich; even richer than Bayern so those using these points as excuse sound really foolish. If there's a fraudster at my club, it would be one bad egg at best, but not 3. 3 is too much abeg.

When a club as big as Bayern is run by so many fraudulent people and have them as legends over a long period of time, then surely Bayern must be a fraudulent club.
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Fraudulent club![/size]

None of the Bayern executive deeds was directly related to Bayern

2 didnt pay taxes on their PERSONAL income and One with the FIFA world cup bid.

None relating to Bayern just like when Alex Ferguson was indicted on horse betting scandals involving his Gibratar

I ask, How does this affect their job at Bayern and Man Utd directly

but when we look closely at the deeds of a club known as the PDP of England, who influences refereeing decision and affect the game

We would look closely at some of the actions that AFFECT the game and their clubs DIRECTLY

During United’s title winning 2010/11 season, they only lost 4 league games. I looked at who refereed those games and how long they then spent without being assigned Manchester United games as well their subsequent trend of behavior towards United.


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Michael Oliver took charge of their first defeat, the February 2011 2-1 loss at Wolves. He was not given another Manchester United game to referee until December 2011. Since then, Oliver has had 2 United games.

United have won both, with Oliver refusing to give a clear Fulham penalty in the 1-0 United win late last season at Old Trafford; a game came right at the end of the title race. A few weeks ago, Oliver gave United a penalty for a shocking dive by Danny Welbeck in the home win against Wigan.

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The second game United lost was away to Chelsea. Martin Atkinson was the referee then and some of his decisions incurred the wrath of Alex Ferguson. Atkinson was not given another United game to referee for an ENTIRE YEAR.

Atkinson was further punished with his decisions that went against United that day. He was not given a single premier league game to referee for a full month. Even worse, he was subsequently given 3 lower league games to referee that season- when he’d previously not officiated a single one that campaign.

It seems that Atkinson was given a clear message that day.
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The 3rd United loss came at Anfield, where a Dirk Kuyt hat trick secured a 3-1 home win. The referee that day was Phil Dowd. He was criticized by Ferguson for not sending Jamie Carragher off. In the very next United game Dowd refereed, he gave them a penalty which secured a 1-1 draw
at Blackburn and their 19th league title.

Giving United penalties in the very next game you referee them after having been criticized is a trend we’ll soon notice.

The final United loss of the 2010/11 season came at the Emirates, where Chris Foy refereed a 1-0 Arsenal win. It will come to no surprise to people to know that Foy was subsequently not assigned a United league game for, again, AN ENTIRE YEAR.

He did however referee 2 United games in the cups during that time. The first was in the Carling Cup against Crystal Palace. He awarded United a penalty. The second was at City in the FA Cup. United got a penalty and Vincent Kompany was sent off early in the game.


To resume, we’ve just analyzed what happened to the 4 referees that officiated United’s 4 league losses in the 2010/11 season. 2 of them were not given any more United league games for a full year (Atkinson and Foy), a third for 9 months (Oliver). 2 of those referees gave United penalties in the very next game (Foy and Dowd) they took charge of and one refused to give a blatant one to the opponents (Oliver). Martin Atkinson, was not given premier league games to officiate for an entire month and assigned to 3 lower league games.

"Findings show United were given an average of 79 seconds extra when losing after 90 minutes, while Moyes has received an average of just 40 in the same circumstances."

GALLACHER: "Manchester United had three games that week and I was given the game on the bank holiday Monday. It was chucking it down with rain and Fergie pulled me aside and said 'do me a favour, call the game off'.

GRAHAM POLL : Graham Poll believes Premier League referees used to fear awarding penalties against Manchester United at Old Trafford, because of Sir Alex Ferguson. "When I travelled to Old Trafford, I was well aware of the ‘Fergie factor’. If I gave a ‘soft’ decision against them or did not add enough time on, then I knew he would let me know, in no uncertain times, that I had erred.

"In the early days I must concede that probably affected me. The way I decided to cope with this was to raise my tolerance level where penalties were concerned."

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RAFA BENITEZ: We can dig through the archives and see the his allegation against the most corrupt institution in English footbal on how Fergie was not evading personal taxes, not on how he was betting, not on how he influenced world cup bids, BUT on how he influenced games involving Man Utd

The referee [Steve Bennett] was the referee when they played against Wigan – he could not see the handball against Wigan by Rio Ferdinand, he did not give a penalty. They won the game and they won the title in this game. I think it will be the same referee who will be in charge of their game in hand this season [against Wigan].

Mr Ferguson was charged by the FA for improper conduct after comments made about Martin Atkinson and Keith Hackett. He was not punished. He is the only manager in the league that cannot be punished for these things

Then he was talking about the fixtures. Two years ago we were playing a lot of early kick-offs away on Saturdays when United were playing on Sundays.

But at Christmas, United played on the 29th and the rest of the teams played on the 28th. We were away against Newcastle two days after playing Bolton. They were playing about 40 hours later, Mr Ferguson organises the fixtures in his office and sends it to us and everyone will know and cannot complain. That is simple.

We know what happens every time we go to Old Trafford and the United staff. They are always going man to man with the referees, especially at half-time when they walk close to the referees and they are talking and talking.

"All managers need to know is that only Mr Ferguson can talk about the fixtures, can talk about referees and nothing happens.

"We need to know that I am talking about facts, not my impression. There are things that everyone can see every single week.


https://www.theguardian.com/football/2009/jan/09/rafael-benitez-alex-ferguson-outburst

ALL comments by people involved in the premier league against Man Utd long term coach NOT about their personal lives but about interference in the game and how the game is rigged in favor of Man Utd

[size=18pt]Chris Foy[/size] failed to give Manchester United a penalty in their 3-2 loss to Spurs last Saturday. The PGMOB have not handed Foy a Premier League game to referee next weekend: instead, he will referee in League 2 for the first time in more than 4 years.

Mike Jones meanwhile, who missed a blatant penalty on Luis Suarez at Norwich, will take charge of West Brom vs QPR in the Premier League. Finally, Howard Webb (who sent off Jordi Gomez on Saturday; a red card today rescinded by the FA) will take charge of Newcastle’s home game against…Manchester United.

Why did Foy’s errors on Saturday lead to his demotion to the lowest professional league in England while Webb’s and Jones’ mistakes didn’t cost them?

http://.goal.com/s/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/10/02/3420091/foy-not-demoted-following-ferguson-criticism-insists

@raumdeter

SIRcumalot:
http://.goal.com/s/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/10/02/3420091/foy-not-demoted-following-ferguson-criticism-insists

@raumdeter

Are you joking? You expected the referee union which was accused to admit?

So If I accuse you of colluding with a thief, Would I be expecting you to admit to it?

In Nigeria when it was obvious INEC(Referee Union) was aiding PDP(Man Utd) rigging, did you ever see INEC openly give a statement to confirm it?

With all these evidence by people who should know not hearsay or cases involving their private lives but decisions that affect the game and the league

Rival coaches like Benitez and Mourinho, Rival players like Babel and Davies even referees have confirmed it. Everyone knows it but we just dont want to say anything, Man Utd under Ferguson was rigging games and had referees influence games in their favour

One has to wonder how many of these league titles Man Utd won under Ferguson was won free and fair

EVen the current Man utd boss Jose Mourinho has this to say


The Chelsea manager has stated that United have received favourable refereeing decisions this season.

Ferguson said: "Mourinho seems to be on some sort of personal crusade. I am surprised no action has been taken.

"It's calculated. We have four games to go now. If we get a penalty against us, Mourinho wins that war. That is wrong."

He went on: "It is a rant all the time now. I don't think it is fair to the game."

Last weekend Mourinho insisted that there was a "new rule" in football which meant United could not concede a penalty


Everyone is entitled to have an opinion. That doesn't mean to say they are liars

He was referring to spot-kicks both Sheffield United and Middlesbrough felt they should have been given at Old Trafford

raumdeuter:


Are you joking? You expected the referee union which was accused to admit?

So If I accuse you of colluding with a thief, Would I be expecting you to admit to it?

In Nigeria when it was obvious INEC(Referee Union) was aiding PDP(Man Utd) rigging, did you ever see INEC openly give a statement to confirm it?

not If there is a valid excuse.
this count has one,
you only choose not to see reason cause it furthers your opinion.

SIRcumalot:

not If there is a valid excuse.
this count has one,
you only choose not to see reason cause it furthers your opinion.

Of course there is a valid excuse, The excuse was he was the center and watched Man Utd lose without doing the "needful"

Excuses like this?
Chris Foy refereed a 1-0 Arsenal win. It will come to no surprise to people to know that Foy was subsequently not assigned a United league game for, again, AN ENTIRE YEAR.

Are you familiar with the case of Justice Salami and Tinubu? There was probably an excuse to retire him prematurely too and probably not related to him awarding Tinubu favourable decisions, Nor related to his phone number showing on ACN key official call logs.

Trying to defend the indefensible is even more hilarious, Man Utd got favours from referees under Fergie. Simple. Coaches, Players and even referees have said the same