lexiconkabir:
jazakAllaah brother!

I love your signature, might have to adopt it!

Empiree:
All they need is cut the ties with the West and the rest is solved. The problem is not Saudi Shuyuk but the Royals. Very important to distinguish btw the two. But unfortunately, it is hard thing to do. The royal family has a very strong alliance with the West (British) bcus they created them to begin with. Hence, there will always be "unbreakable" alliance btw the two. It is the same powerful force which created the state of Israel. So there is a common alliance btw British, US, Saudi and Israel. Saudi Shyuk however do not always agree with them.

BeansAndBread:
Salam Aleikom, please can you explain what you mean as per the underlined? And please, don't base what you say on conspiracy theories but on facts.

Empiree:
Walaikum Sallam. Please i don't have time for this. Dont tell me you have eyes but cant see. There are conspiracies. YES. And there are obvious facts. You either admit what i posted or if you want to dig, you will see lots of dirty stuff which i am not interested at this point Why pretending like there is no alliance btw West and Royal family?. You disappointed me really. I just read another one today.

BeansAndBread:
I'm sorry if my question annoyed you, I never meant it that way. Saudi Arabia as a country has dealings with Britain, France, Germany, US just as every other Muslim country out there does. So I don't understand what you mean by that statement.

Empiree:
No, this is not what I am talking about. Islam does not in anyway forbids mutual and friendly trades with non-muslims. That's not the point here. Yes, every country has friendly ties somehow. But in this context we are talking about ALLIANCE. This is different. This is what Islam forbids. This is what i derived from your op unless you did not mean it that way. There is difference between alliance and common friendship and trade. Majority Sunni countries (not the people) have entered "unholy alliance" which Allah forbids.

Again, unless you did not mean it this way in your op, then, am sorry. But your op suggests this. Let me give you example. Alliance is a formidable relationship btw two parties.

BeansAndBread:

This statement of yours is what is disturbing, "The royal family has a very strong alliance with the West (British) bcus they created them to begin with. Hence, there will always be "unbreakable" alliance btw the two. It is the same powerful force which created the state of Israel. So there is a common alliance btw British, US, Saudi and Israel." to me it makes absolutely no sense.

I want you to be clear, you might be surprised that I don't fully grasp what you're trying to say here.

Empiree:
See highlighted part?, that's the problem. I rather keep mute cus keep talking about this is like talking to the wall. You can not understand what you dont know. I wanted to post highlights from article that was posted yesterday by Yahoo, but since you dont seem to understand what I am saying it is pointless to do so now. It wont make sense to you as you rightly said. Let's just leave it. There are those who understand me.

usmanktg2:
OP is blind to Islamic History. Wahhabism is the fundamental base of all terrorists attack since the advent of the 20th century.

The most peaceful Islam is the Traditional Sufism which came together with our Islam here in Nigeria prominently by Shaykh Uthman Bn Fodio (Qadiriyya) and Shaykh Umar Futi (Tijjaniyya)

Wahhabism got rid of the Spiritual dimension of Islam for selfish interest to denounce the Ottoman Caliphate, leaving Islam with nothing but mere theories.

Read up فتنة الوهابية and الصواعق الإلهية.

usmanktg2:
OP is blind to Islamic History. Wahhabism is the fundamental base of all terrorists attack since the advent of the 20th century.

The most peaceful Islam is the Traditional Sufism which came together with our Islam here in Nigeria prominently by Shaykh Uthman Bn Fodio (Qadiriyya) and Shaykh Umar Futi (Tijjaniyya)

Wahhabism got rid of the Spiritual dimension of Islam for selfish interest to denounce the Ottoman Caliphate, leaving Islam with nothing but mere theories.

Read up فتنة الوهابية and الصواعق الإلهية.

Empiree:
All they need is cut the ties with the West and the rest is solved. The problem is not Saudi Shuyuk but the Royals. Very important to distinguish btw the two. But unfortunately, it is hard thing to do. The royal family has a very strong alliance with the West (British) bcus they created them to begin with. Hence, there will always be "unbreakable" alliance btw the two. It is the same powerful force which created the state of Israel. So there is a common alliance btw British, US, Saudi and Israel. Saudi Shyuk however do not always agree with them.

HAH:

Wahhabism (Arabic: الوهابية‎‎, al-Wahhābiya(h)) or Wahhabi mission[1] (/wəˈhɑːbi, wɑː-/;[2] Arabic: الدعوة الوهابية‎‎, ad-Da'wa al-Wahhābiya(h) ) is a religious movement or branch of Sunni Islam.[3][4][5][6] It has been variously described as "ultraconservative",[7] "austere",[3] "fundamentalist",[8] or "puritan(ical)"[9][10] and as an Islamic "tore "pure monotheistic worship" (tawhid) by scholars and advocates,[11] and as a distortion of Islam by its opponents.[3][12] The term Wahhabi(ism) is often used polemically and adherents commonly reject its use, preferring to be called Salafi or muwahhid.[13][14][15] The movement emphasises the principle of tawhid[16] (the "uniqueness" and "unity" of God).[17] Its principal influences include Ahmad ibn Hanbal (780–855) and Ibn Taymiyyah (1263–1328).[18]

Wahhabism is named after an eighteenth-century preacher and scholar, Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab (1703–1792).[19] He started a revivalist movement in the remote, sparsely populated region of Najd,[20] advocating a purging of practices such as the popular "cult of saints", and shrine and tomb visitation, widespread among Muslims, but which he considered idolatry (shirk), impurities and innovations in Islam (Bid'ah).[5][17] Eventually he formed a pact with a local leader Muhammad bin Saud offering political obedience and promising that protection and propagation of the Wahhabi movement mean "power and glory" and rule of "lands and men."[21]

The alliance between followers of ibn Abd al-Wahhab and Muhammad bin Saud's successors (the House of Saud) proved to be a durable one. The House of Saud continued to maintain its politico-religious alliance with the Wahhabi sect through the waxing and waning of its own political fortunes over the next 150 years, through to its eventual proclamation of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia in 1932, and then afterwards, on into modern times. Today Ibn Abd Al-Wahhab's teachings are the official, state-sponsored form of Sunni Islam[3][22] in Saudi Arabia.[23] With the help of funding from Saudi petroleum exports[24] (and other factors[25]), the movement underwent "explosive growth" beginning in the 1970s and now has worldwide influence.[3]

The "boundaries" of Wahhabism have been called "difficult to pinpoint",[26] but in contemporary usage, the terms Wahhabi and Salafi are often used interchangeably, and they are considered to be movements with different roots that have merged since the 1960s.[27][28][29] However, Wahhabism has also been called "a particular orientation within Salafism",[30] or an ultra-conservative, Saudi brand of Salafism.[31][32] Estimates of the number of adherents to Wahhabism vary, with one source (Mehrdad Izady) giving a figure of fewer than 5 million Wahhabis in the Persian Gulf region (compared to 28.5 million Sunnis and 89 million Shia).[23][33]

Many Sunni and Shia Muslims disagree with the Wahhabi movement, and a widely circulated conspiracy theory holds it to have been a product of British secret service efforts for causing the demise of the Ottoman empire.[34] Ulema, including Al-Azhar ma, including Al-Azhar scholars, regularly denounce Wahhabism in terms such as "Satanic faith".[34] Wahhabism has been accused of being "a source of global terrorism",[35][36] inspiring the ideology of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL),[37] and for causing disunity in Muslim communities by labelling Muslims who disagreed with the Wahhabi definition of monotheism as apostates[38] (takfir) and justifying their killing.[39][40][41] It has also been criticized for the destruction of historic mazaars, mausoleums, and other Muslim and non-Muslim buildings and artifacts.

usmanktg2:
I wonder how will an educated Muslim use all his effort to defend a dangerous movement like Wahhabism as if all his life defend on them. Wahhabist don't bother about you nor your religion.

Read, read and read.
Don't politicise everything. Practice your Islam clean and pure, life is too short.

Islam is simple, Please wahhabist don't make it complicated.

HAH:
I can see the Wahabist on this thread are seriously trying to distance their sect with terrorism.

Ask anyone, ISIS, Alqaeda, Alshabab, Boko Haram etc are all wahabist.

So any adherent to wahabism is a potential terrorist.

Beware of them

lexiconkabir:


Ittaqullaah! Fear Allaah!

HAH:


My brother I fear Allah, and I love islam but pain is the bad name wahabist|salafist have brought this lovely religion through their terrorist activities, sadly non Muslim cannot distinguish us.

If the way the wahabis are professing islam is the way usman bin fodio followed is won't have spread to our land.

lexiconkabir:
DOWNLOAD THE WAHHABI MYTH BY JAMES OLIVER

THE BOOK IS FOR ANY TRUTH SEEKER ABOUT "WAHHABISM"

All i can tell those brothers trying to paint "wahhabists" as bad people forgetting that one of Allaah names is Al-WAHHAB is to fear Allaah! Fear Allaah!

Ahmadabd:
you are a joker

HAH:


My brother don't miss educate people, the term WAHABISM came because of its founder Mohammad abdulwahab.

Saudi adopted his doctrine of extremism when he had agreement with founder of saudi Mohammad bin Saud that he will help in giving him political power but religious authority will be with him and his followers and that is why up till today they follow the wahabism