joyContraMundum: Well, what's the PURPOSE of this thread, if I may ask
Alleviating boredom is my purpose so atheism is my entertainment and oh there is a lot of education to be derived through entertainment as well afterall that is the Montesorri way.
So what would you call Seun who does not believe God exists? You dey fear?
If you say no sensible atheist would ever say God does not exist then why attack those who believe He does? Are you confused?
most atheists are actually agnostic because someone could come out and provide proof. Bt what is undeniable is the God in the Bible was actually manufactured by cavemen, brilliant BT still just cavemen
My brother 80% of the Atheists here on NL see this place as where they can hide and claim to be professors and physicists and people who have wined and dined with Albert Einstein simply because the forum has no age verification checks and is faceless.
Indeed Atheism is transitive with them as i see it personally as their age of rebellion as youths so yes they do have a low retention rate.
Na look and laugh i just dey do most times when i read their king kong threads. Hopefulllandlord is a typical example of one of those who cannot say for certain that God does not exist. Ask him and he will say I DONT KNOW. The guy is just trying to play safe..he wants to quickly shift his allegiance when absolutely necessary so fear is not allowing him to go full blown atheist. lol
This is so true . Plus I'm not sure why he posts derisive threads against religion and excoriate religious people if he aint certain God does not exist . Same with other atheists , I just dont get it . Confused people
theoneJabulani: most atheists are actually agnostic because someone could come out and provide proof. Bt what is undeniable is the God in the Bible was actually manufactured by cavemen, brilliant BT still just cavemen
You have agnostic and gnostic atheists in case you do not know and gnostic atheists say for a fact that God does not exist so back up a bit will you? Now for the Agnostic atheist what proof is sufficient for them? Have you ever heard of self denial before? Can my experience be replicated to suite your demand when your mind is so closed to what kind of evidence you seek?
Oh FYI you do realise that the proponents for atheism are delusional and lower thinkers than theists. Here read this.
Atheism also has a lower retention rate compared to other worldviews . Researches have revealed that atheism is nothing but a transitive state for many individuals . In the US , only 30 percent of those who grew up in an atheist household remain atheists .
The Soviet Union was a communist state and after it collapsed the population of atheists in those countries that made of the Soviet Union plummeted , its currently insignificant .
Researches also revealed that most atheists can't say with certitude that God does not exist . Even Richard Dawkins said : I can't be sure God does not exist . So I ask this ornery man , if you can't say with certitude God does not exist , why launch polemics on those who acknowledge the existence of God ? Same goes to every atheist on this forum . Most of them are in their youth , like I noted , atheism is a transitive state in their lives, when they get older they'll surely go back to God or subscribe to other worldviews ( facts buttressed this claim ) .
stop these your stupid lies! Abeg! Older scientists tend to believe in God less.. What is wronging una sef? For every china... There's an european country... Just stop your lies...okay?
This is so true . Plus I'm not sure why he posts derisive threads against religion and excoriate religious people if he aint certain God does not exist . Same with other atheists , I just dont get it . Confused people
Maybe we should start being specific, God might exist BT Yahweh does nt. How is that?
Do i look like a story teller to you? See how you lot are so quiet in the face of truth. lol
its a story... Any research can project anything...i was hoping you'd know better..but you dont...or feigning not to know Secularism itself is the fastest rising status...bt of cause you'd deny it... Religion grows mainly by birth... Simple as abc
This is so true . Plus I'm not sure why he posts derisive threads against religion and excoriate religious people if he aint certain God does not exist . Same with other atheists , I just dont get it . Confused people
I tell you. How can you claim that you are not sure God does not exist yet you attack and run down every presentation of God to you without critically examining and experiencing each to verify. My brother the delusion is tangibly real.
You have agnostic and gnostic atheists in case you do not know and gnostic atheists say for a fact that God does not exist so back up a bit will you? Now for the Agnostic atheist what proof is sufficient for them? Have you ever heard of self denial before? Can my experience be replicated to suite your demand when your mind is so closed to what kind of evidence you seek?
Oh FYI you do realise that the proponents for atheism are delusional and lower thinkers than theists. Here read this.
I tell you. How can you claim that you are not sure God does not exist yet you attack and run down every presentation of God to you without critically examining and experiencing each to verify. My brother the delusion is tangibly real.
stop these your stupid lies! Abeg! Older scientists tend to believe in God less.. What is wronging una sef? For every china... There's an european country... Just stop your lies...okay?
For every China there is a European country but Guess what? Islam is projected to thrive in europe along with Christianity so perhaps you will also say that for every European country there is an African Country right? However Christianity iss projected to thrive here in Africa.
My brother everywhere you look we dey your front dey offer you a hug. Run if you like but you will get tired eventually.
Older scientists tend to believe in God less? Perhaps you should ask Astronomer and physicist Hugh Ross among others.
Older scientists tend to believe in God less.. What is wronging una sef?
Learn to comprehend before your insensate outbursts . My post was not addressed to any occupation , just atheists in general , and if indeed any atheist still remains one at old age , he/she falls within the 30 percent who won''t abjure their beliefs against God's existence .
For every china... There's an european country...
13 percent of the word's population are atheists and only 10 percent are Europeans and less than 5 percent admit that they convinced atheists Irreligion is not atheism . Even in the US , 32.5 percent of the adults don't believe in a personal God or are deists . Deists are irreligious .
For every China there is a European country but Guess what? Islam is projected to thrive in europe
thrive or increase in population? Like i said...by births.. If by thrive you mean the anti islam and the ''checking'' acts/bills of secular states like france..then okay.. Islam or christianity is not rising more than/like secularism in europe.. quote me anywhere
along with Christianity so perhaps you will also say that for every European country there is an African Country right? However Christianity iss projected to thrive here in Africa.
of course christianity is increasing.. But nairaland alone is proof of secular rising rates in nigeria alone... Can you deny that?
My brother everywhere you look we dey your front dey offer you a hug. Run if you like but you will get tired eventually. Older scientists tend to believe in God less? Perhaps you should ask Astronomer and physicist Hugh Ross among others.
For every China there is a European country but Guess what? Islam is projected to thrive in europe along with Christianity so perhaps you will also say that for every European country there is an African Country right? However Christianity iss projected to thrive here in Africa.
My brother everywhere you look we dey your front dey offer you a hug. Run if you like but you will get tired eventually.
Older scientists tend to believe in God less? Perhaps you should ask Astronomer and physicist Hugh Ross among others.
Learn to comprehend before your insensate outbursts . My post was not addressed to any occupation , just atheists in general , and if indeed any atheist still remains one at old age , he/she falls within the 30 percent who won''t abjure their beliefs against God's existence.
it is only rational that older people believe in some form of deity more...why ----The fear of the unknown.. Fear is a vital emotion.. It is fear that makes a large herd of mature buffalos run from just a handful of lions i only told you that(the scientists stuff) to shows that its not automatically a fact of life... It's only in the same way that religious people have more population than irreligious people.. 2)age does not prove knowledge...
13 percent of the word's population are atheists and only 10 percent are Europeans and less than 5 percent admit that they convinced atheists Irreligion is not atheism . Even in the US , 32.5 percent of the adults don't believe in a personal God or are deists . Deists are irreligious .
few atheists will have ''problems'' with deists... The ''problem'' usually arises when one claims the author of the universe told him what to do and what other humans should do..without proof of it
Learn to comprehend before your insensate outbursts . My post was not addressed to any occupation , just atheists in general , and if indeed any atheist still remains one at old age , he/she falls within the 30 percent who won''t abjure their beliefs against God's existence .
13 percent of the word's population are atheists and only 10 percent are Europeans and less than 5 percent admit that they convinced atheists Irreligion is not atheism . Even in the US , 32.5 percent of the adults don't believe in a personal God or are deists . Deists are irreligious .
More like you are ignorant and hate to admit it
well basically diests are on the same camp with atheists and agnostics in the sense of not believing in a personal God You people put your God on a very high pedestal This is a God who parted the red sea Brought down fire from heaven Wrote on walls Waked on water Calmed storms Replaced an ear Flew to heaven Carried someone on a chariot to heaven Brought Zombieland to Palestine after his death Fed 5000 people with bread and fish with leftovers Brought bears out to maul youths Turned the Nile to blood Stopped the sun Strangely had an Achilles heel for chariots Made someone super strong Among other miscellaneous things You did all this before without interrupting free will Do it again... Na lie But nowadays what we get are pastors clamping peoples hands together and claiming one hand was shorter than the other and TB Joshua claiming he replaced a kidney with prayer. Why he can replace a kidney and not grow a human hand back is beyond me Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and that is basically what can help Yahweh out And btw be checking PewResearchCentre for all these and not conservepedia or any obviously bias website Religious groups would grow faster and irreligious groups would reduce to 13% but by 2050 there'll be a 10% increase overall Though there will be an increase in religious people due to population increase religiously unaffiliated people would also be higher than it was in 2016 due to more people so I honestly don't know what this thread is saying
naijadeyhia: By 2025 there will be over 6,000,000 fewer atheist world-wide, that’s a loss of about 1,700 atheist a day over the next ten years according to a report on the status of Global Missions in 2014 by Gordon Conwell Theological Seminar.
I began researching this trend recently after watching this video from Zach Anner about Sunday Assembly, which is basically a secular/atheistic attempt at doing church!
Zach’s video on Sunday assembly reveals a surprising aspect in atheism and secularism. It’s obvious that our atheistic friends want something more. They long for the relational element that most religions offer. Ironically they are trying to become more like their friends who believe in God but do it in a way that doesn’t require God.
These kinds of attempts to bring morality and religiousness into atheism are not new. All you have to do is study the history of the former Soviet Union and you will see how they tried to replace God with Lenin. You’ll also find that they tried to replace the Bible with the Communist Manifesto and other writings of Marx and Engels.
What we do know is that these attempts to make atheism religious never last, just like atheistic communism didn’t last!
Low birthrate
Atheism and it’s secular worldviews lack any real motivation for procreation and thus tend to have very low birth rates. Some ideas which atheists promote lend to this lowered birthrate such as: sterilization
Atheist are known for promoting programs that encourage voluntary and sometimes even compulsory sterilization.
Emphasis on education and career
They also emphasize science, education and careers as a very high value for the individual. These values tend to put off childbearing until much later in life unlike the view of Religion that advocates for a balance.
Abortion
Ironically abortion is an issue that many atheist have spent much of their life trying to promote but in the end it’s the millions of abortions that will kill off the atheist population!
Historic Atheistic Countries Changing
Our world is changing and many countries that used to be bulwarks of atheism have completely changed their allegiances. The most notable of these is the former Soviet countries.
It’s astonishing to realize that a country, where just 30 years ago you could be shipped off to the gulag for practicing your religion, now has a president who unashamedly talks about his faith and often is seen interacting with church leaders. Yes, I’m talking about Vladimir Putin, who not only claims to be a Christian but has taken a strong stand against issues like homosexuality.
Another country to consider is China which is considered to be an atheistic country, yet Christianity is booming there! Some even say that within 15 years China will be the worlds largest Christian nation!
Growth of Major Religions
We know that atheist aren’t reproducing physically but atheistic evangelists aren’t doing much for their cause either. According to the study by Gordon Conwell Theological Seminary all major religions are experiencing major growth.
The strongest per year growth is in Christianity 1.29%, Hinduism 1.38% and Islam 1.81%. This is opposed to a .03% annual growth of atheism and it appears that number is falling.
Survival of the Fittest
Ironically this is a question of survival of the fittest. As it turns out atheism isn’t the fittest for human survival and flourishing. Maybe that’s because God made man as a worshiper and gave him certain laws to live by. Turns out that societies who try to stick to at least a few basic Biblical principles do better and last longer!
Evangelism Is Changing
The death of atheism doesn’t mean that the church’s task in evangelism just got easier. What it means is it’s changing!
The Christian’s job is to communicate the gospel and in order to do that effectively we need to be aware of the major cultural beliefs around us. Much depends on where you live and what crowds you mingle with but I’m guessing you are coming up against atheism less and less.
Science, Theology and Philosophy Assasins
The truth of the matter is that Science, Theology and Philosophy are killing atheism. An investigation regarding the social phenomenon called atheism found that:
"Atheists have appealed to science in defence of their atheism since the first avowedly atheistic manuscripts of the mid seventeenth century. However, as the German expert on atheism Winfried Schroeder has shown, the relationship between early modern atheism and science tended to embarrass rather than strengthen the fledgling atheism's case." - "Atheism and Science" Investigating Atheism project - Cambridge and Oxford.
Likes Attract
Atheism only attracts those who are attracted to bad behavior. Some psychologists call this the "Misfit syndrome." Remember in elementary school; there was always that kid that had to be naughty for some reason? He or she had to always get attention? Remember that he/she found pleasure in bullying, asking the teacher stupid questions or making smart remarks?
Well, this is the typical atheist of today who can be found online and in these "Reason Rallies." They are adults with this kind of naughty child's mentality. They feel that mockery and abuse are the means to spread "reasons." This horrific understanding of reason and persistence in using uncivil means to argue is one of the reasons why atheism is dying out. Since atheists lack "reason" to support their claims, then they must rely on aggression in order to get attention.
Atheism is dying and is on life support which would soon be unplugged and frankly it would not be missed.
On all the premises that describes a research design, for a PROSPECTIVE STUDY, this compilation of pseudo and inferior reasoning above, failed abysmally.
When you marooned your mentality into the fool's paradise of religious debauchery, you can't but gloat on melting ice, on shark infested water.
Atheism also has a lower retention rate compared to other worldviews . Researches have revealed that atheism is nothing but a transitive state for many individuals . In the US , only 30 percent of those who grew up in an atheist household remain atheists .
The Soviet Union was a communist state and after it collapsed , the population of atheists in those countries that made up the Soviet Union plummeted , its currently insignificant .
Researches also revealed that most atheists can't say with certitude that God does not exist . Even Richard Dawkins said : I can't be sure God does not exist . So I ask this ornery man , if you can't say with certitude God does not exist , why launch polemics on those who acknowledge the existence of God ? Same goes to every atheist on this forum . Most of them are in their youth , like I noted , atheism is a transitive state in their lives, when they get older they'll surely go back to God or subscribe to other worldviews ( facts buttressed this claim ) .
Atheism also has a lower retention rate compared to other worldviews . Researches have revealed that atheism is nothing but a transitive state for many individuals . In the US , only 30 percent of those who grew up in an atheist household remain atheists .
The Soviet Union was a communist state and after it collapsed , the population of atheists in those countries that made up the Soviet Union plummeted , its currently insignificant .
Researches also revealed that most atheists can't say with certitude that God does not exist . Even Richard Dawkins said : I can't be sure God does not exist . So I ask this ornery man , if you can't say with certitude God does not exist , why launch polemics on those who acknowledge the existence of God ? Same goes to every atheist on this forum . Most of them are in their youth , like I noted , atheism is a transitive state in their lives, when they get older they'll surely go back to God or subscribe to other worldviews ( facts buttressed this claim ) .
When will you wrap up this your difficulty, at understanding the fact, that rational atheists, base their belief system on methodology that is scientific?
And not on theological, mystical or philosophical methodology.
If i say i don't believe God exit, and i don't CLAIM to KNOW it doesn't exists.
The word "claim to know", has significant implications in scientific society.
Except you're educated in scientific ethics, principles, discipline, decency and character, you can't possibly relate with it.
So, "claim to know", doesn't connote admittance of the probable existence of God, as you ignorantly want to assume. It's a phrase that characterize people of scientific culture and tradition.
Atheism also has a lower retention rate compared to other worldviews . Researches have revealed that atheism is nothing but a transitive state for many individuals . In the US , only 30 percent of those who grew up in an atheist household remain atheists .
The Soviet Union was a communist state and after it collapsed , the population of atheists in those countries that made up the Soviet Union plummeted , its currently insignificant .
Researches also revealed that most atheists can't say with certitude that God does not exist . Even Richard Dawkins said : I can't be sure God does not exist . So I ask this ornery man , if you can't say with certitude God does not exist , why launch polemics on those who acknowledge the existence of God ? Same goes to every atheist on this forum . Most of them are in their youth , like I noted , atheism is a transitive state in their lives, when they get older they'll surely go back to God or subscribe to other worldviews ( facts buttressed this claim ) .
When will you wrap up this your difficulty, at understanding the fact, that rational atheists, base their belief system on methodology that is scientific?
And not on theological, mystical or philosophical methodology.
If i say i don't believe God exit, and i don't CLAIM to KNOW it doesn't exists.
The word "claim to know", has significant implications in scientific society.
Except you're educated in scientific ethics, principles, discipline, decency and character, you can't possibly relate with it.
So, "claim to know", doesn't connote admittance of the probable existence of God, as you ignorantly want to assume. It's a phrase that characterize people of scientific culture and tradition.
On all the premises that describes a research design, for a PROSPECTIVE STUDY, this compilation of pseudo and inferior reasoning above, failed abysmally.
When you marooned your mentality into the fool's paradise of religious debauchery, you can't but gloat on melting ice, on shark infested water.
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The comments of a dying breed when the truth is laid bare before him.
Vitriolic expressions become a last resort. Its like when an internally vile man gets hit on the finger with a hammer he blurts out words like FVUCK, SHIIT, DAMN just to try and suppress the pain.
If your verbal rot would help you feel better then by all means rot away.
