EyeHateGod:
@op Those other animals that practice Gang rape eg dolphins Or prostitution eg penguins and Chimp etc Or Homosexuality Penguins, Bonobo, mouse etc Or Phonography Eg Chimp or Bonobo pls What will happen to them?

Eddlad:



Rain and wind patterns grow plants then animals feed on them then I feed on animals, whereis the society in this?
Remember human interaction isnt a prerequisite for sustainance.
You probably don't even understand what I said.

Eddlad:



Do u feel like sleeping with your kids(if any) or your sister if you see her unclothed? Your sheer hatred for Christianity isn't helping here. Think a bit more fairly if u are thinking at all.(addressed to the first part of your post)

You claim Christians watch porn, what makes them Christians if they fail to follow the scriptures? Tell me.

I believe op asked what your view was, consider answering this as if Christianity didn't exist, shouldn't be too hard since atheist is all about disproving God's existence.

APCsupporter:


Why call terrosists Muslims then? Can you see your hypocrisy?

donnffd:


Lol...Arrogance would get you nowhere...you think you are sooooo intelligent that the little thing you say is beyond everyone's comprehension, smh.

Anyways, i would love to see you survive in the wild without any human interaction for the rest of your life. You understanding the patterns of the seasons where as a result of your interactions with humans and books, No one man would have come up with the idea on his own, Infact our civilization is built on the foundation of past knowledge and knowledge is a product of a shared community, no man is an island of knowledge.

So if you think you can survive in the wild, without an human interaction, please be my guest.

Eddlad:


The concept of righteousness or living right with God simply put is doing what he wants u to do. If some animals are doing that and God made them that way then it's not a sin.

juicydiceyjoe:

Now for an Atheist, how do you see these two things, are they right or wrong, If you think it is wrong, what logical conclusion do you bring up to see it as wrong.

CC: hahn johnnydon22 joseph1013 ifenes Lennycool et al

EyeHateGod:

Are humans not animals?

Eddlad:


According to science, regardless, even as humans we expect different things from different animals according to their nature. They stay true to how God made them.

EyeHateGod:

And also humans to? are we perfect?

juicydiceyjoe:
As a follow up to my previous thread here; https://www.nairaland.com/3386908/why-atheist-not-engage-pre-marital#up about atheists and their view of pre-marital sex; I want to engage you guys on this topic too.

Morality is dicey. Who determines what is right and wrong? As a Christian, it is the bible and for a Moslem, it is the Quaran. For someone abandoning these books, there needs to be a new standard for morality.

These religious books have spoken against sexual immorality and most believers have taken pornography and masturbation as wrong.

Now for an Atheist, how do you see these two things, are they right or wrong, If you think it is wrong, what logical conclusion do you bring up to see it as wrong.

spacyzuma:

I'm non-religious. I watch porn, I masturbate, I have (pre-marital) sex.

To me, none of them are wrong. I understand how they feel wrong, because I once used to think so. And it's due to the 'brain-washing' I was subject to while growing up (like most people) that taught me that these activities were wrong and sinful. Now I know better.

However, like almost every activity on earth, it's wrong to indulge in them to excess.

Some people don't masturbate because they feel uneasy about it, for diferent reasons (usually religion). I think masturbation is a good way to pleasure yourself, explore your body's erotic zones, get orgasms without risk of STI or interacting with other people, and ease 'konji'.
It's safe and I recommend it.

I watch porn because (as I'm very interested in & excited about sex) I'm always looking for ways to improve my sexual skills and it's also a nice tool for masturbation.

spacyzuma:

I'm non-religious. I watch porn, I masturbate, I have (pre-marital) sex.

To me, none of them are wrong. I understand how they feel wrong, because I once used to think so. And it's due to the 'brain-washing' I was subject to while growing up (like most people) that taught me that these activities were wrong and sinful. Now I know better.

However, like almost every activity on earth, it's wrong to indulge in them to excess.

Some people don't masturbate because they feel uneasy about it, for diferent reasons (usually religion). I think masturbation is a good way to pleasure yourself, explore your body's erotic zones, get orgasms without risk of STI or interacting with other people, and ease 'konji'.
It's safe and I recommend it.

I watch porn because (as I'm very interested in & excited about sex) I'm always looking for ways to improve my sexual skills and it's also a nice tool for masturbation.

joseph1013:
Who are your favourite girls?

spacyzuma:


Lol. I'm not discussing that.

Aww...I get it. You're the shy type. No worries, I won't tell mummy.

joseph1013:


Aww...I get it. You're the shy type. No worries, I won't tell mummy.

Amberon:
Bless you.. They say God don't exist but can't even give their atheistic views without mentioning God.

Teempakguy:
I'm commenting as an atheist.

on the subject of premarital sex: I don't like it. So, for me, it is bad and I would never engage in it. this is, in part, due to the risk involved, and most importantly, the effort required to get a partner. I classify it as total waste of time and money. however, I don't judge others who do.

on the subject of masturbation: I see it as dependent on other factors. masturbating is not inherently bad. but addiction, and jerking off to child porn is bad.

on the subject of porn: if you're so worried about contributing to human trafficking and so on, you can just switch to art porn like hentai and sex comics. in fact, that way, you're helping someone else increase their financial status and/or giving them pride in their work. So that would be extremely Good. however, addiction is a no no. if you have time to watch porn, then you also have time to sit down and think about how to make other people's life better! this, for me, is the ultimate good.

hahn:


You need practice sha o



People are sick sha



Masturbathing is like Pringles. Once you pp you can't stop

Teempakguy:

Pringles? seriously . . .

anyway, because of my philosophy regarding premarital sex, I've been repeatedly told that I will die alone.

who won't?

hahn:


I like the stance. It is cool

But you need practice

Do you intend on marrying a virgin?

Teempakguy:
if I have my way, I won't even marry at all.

the whole affair is just too troublesome.

if I had to marry though, It's only natural to go for someone like myself.

Teempakguy:
if I have my way, I won't even marry at all.

the whole affair is just too troublesome.

if I had to marry though, It's only natural to go for someone like myself.

joseph1013:
[b]You mentioned the effort required to get a partner to have sex with. Well, that I really don't understand. What effort? With the right approach and since the (responsible) sex is going to be between two consenting adults, I can't wrap my head around the effort part. Well, it's sometimes an art form. If you have it, you have it. If you don't, well, you can learn. It's like selling: Some people are born with it, the rest of us have to learn.

Or are you talking about the effort of the act itself? That you don't fancy the act of having sex? If yes, perhaps you are asexual, especially since you are already contemplating not getting married, which automatically means you might not have sex for your lifetime. Well, it's natural not to have any appeal for sex itself.

If you're going to marry though, I advise you take sex more seriously. That you both are gonna get married as virgins is no criterion for marital success. It could be worse if you don't marry a virgin. Everyday, I read on the pages of newspaper about how sexual dissatisfaction is the major cause of divorce in marriage. A report says 85% of all divorces is down to sexual problems in marriage. Any psychologist will tell you that it's a very big problem.

All the best, brother. [/b]

Teempakguy:
The effort I'm talking about lies in the selection and pursuing of the partner. I have such ridiculously high standards that in my entire lifetime, I can count on my fingers, the people that qualified. as a perfectionist, I am unable to lower my standards.

Higher standards mean more effort to get to know, and then later date these people.

joseph1013:
That's exactly why I mentioned approach. Approach matters. Dating could be a school in itself for some.

I obviously don't know you so I don't know the city you are in and how old you are. I know that environments restrict our choices.

Let me ask you: Do you think it takes more effort to get a girl than it takes to pass an exam (I assume you have at least finished your first degree)?

Teempakguy:
this discussion is interesting. I will continue when I recharge my phone.

joseph1013:


Wait...are you the guy on your profile?

Teempakguy:
yes....

joseph1013:


I may be wrong, but a quick assessment of that picture indicates a teenager who is about getting into University or at the most, in his first years in the university.

If that's the case, you are better off concentrating on having a great CGPA in the university. Your whole life is still ahead of you. Don't even think of having sex now. You might make some irreparable mistakes.