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Re: I'm A New Atheist by Nobody: 10:54am On Nov 21, 2016

damogul:

Why are you contradicting yourself? First you say you were a Christian and attended church and was even a chorister and now you say you were never a Christian and will never be?

I think you have ruled on who you really are with your own mouth.

The fact that i go to church and sang on 3 occassions doesnt make me a christian...

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Re: I'm A New Atheist by Nobody: 10:56am On Nov 21, 2016

LiberaDeus:

My Jesus?

I don't know any such person. I used to hear of one that apparently was executed by the Roman governor 2000 years ago and they even said his death was meant to save my great great great grandfather from sin and hell, unfortunately my ancestor didn't meet him, what an incompetent plan from bros J and his father.

Madam read my post well, I ain't a Christian

yeah im sorry ...it was a mistake

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Re: I'm A New Atheist by damogul: 11:00am On Nov 21, 2016

mhizesther:
The fact that i go to church and sang on 3 occassions doesnt make me a christian...

Again you confirm my words with your own mouth. You were never a Christian so had no basis to even believe in God. Your kind is aptly described in Mathew 7: 15

........They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves

You were a church goer and a chorister but not a Christian. In other words you either deceived your way into the choir as you made them believe you were born again when you were not or the church you attended just needed the crowd but not the souls.

In simple words you have named who you are by yourself.

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Re: I'm A New Atheist by honourhim: 11:03am On Nov 21, 2016

damogul:

Why are you contradicting yourself? First you say you were a Christian and attended church and was even a chorister and now you say you were never a Christian and will never be?

I think you have ruled on who you really are with your own mouth.

The girl is just confused as you can see.

Re: I'm A New Atheist by honourhim: 11:06am On Nov 21, 2016

LiberaDeus:

Nice testimony.
I hope you know what they will say on this thread.
Christians will say the following and they have already started saying it

1. You were never really born again or you were a wolf in sheep's clothing

2. If you were a Christian, you didn't have a real relationship with Christ, you were a legalistic Christian and you focused on your own works, you should have sought the assistance of the spirit.

3. You are a weak Christian, just because you lost your grandma you fell out of the faith. Christians suffered more than that, Jesus was even crucified, god didn't promise you a life free from trouble.

They will say the above and much more but don't worry cause the rebuttals to all these points are available.
Remember to always keep an open mind in all you do. Don't dismiss religious views totally, always think and consider their view points and also the atheistic view points.
Unlike us, Christians grow their faith by avoiding dissenting world views and obfuscation of other religions and view points. But we freethinkers accept all ideas and reason them, we are like an open melting pot if ideas, if the truth can face resistance from different ideas and still remain then that truth is certain.

Religious truth is like a spoilt brat shielded from all the world's challenges that's why when it faces the light of different ideas, they go berserk, they feel surprised that such views exist and they feel unsettled.
But atheistic truth is like a child that has been sent to military school to learn the challenges of life. That child is not unsettled by challenges.

Mr adviser can you now see that your client has confessed that she wasn't a Christian? You people are so pathetic.

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Re: I'm A New Atheist by damogul: 11:08am On Nov 21, 2016

LiberaDeus:

Nice testimony.
I hope you know what they will say on this thread.
Christians will say the following and they have already started saying it

1. You were never really born again or you were a wolf in sheep's clothing

2. If you were a Christian, you didn't have a real relationship with Christ, you were a legalistic Christian and you focused on your own works, you should have sought the assistance of the spirit.

3. You are a weak Christian, just because you lost your grandma you fell out of the faith. Christians suffered more than that, Jesus was even crucified, god didn't promise you a life free from trouble.

They will say the above and much more but don't worry cause the rebuttals to all these points are available.
Remember to always keep an open mind in all you do. Don't dismiss religious views totally, always think and consider their view points and also the atheistic view points.
Unlike us, Christians grow their faith by avoiding dissenting world views and obfuscation of other religions and view points. But we freethinkers accept all ideas and reason them, we are like an open melting pot if ideas, if the truth can face resistance from different ideas and still remain then that truth is certain.

Religious truth is like a spoilt brat shielded from all the world's challenges that's why when it faces the light of different ideas, they go berserk, they feel surprised that such views exist and they feel unsettled.
But atheistic truth is like a child that has been sent to military school to learn the challenges of life. That child is not unsettled by challenges.

She just used a megaphone to announce she was not a Christian to begin with. Oya give her more counselling!

Re: I'm A New Atheist by damogul: 11:09am On Nov 21, 2016

mhizesther:
The fact that i go to church and sang on 3 occassions doesnt make me a christian...

FIXED!

Re: I'm A New Atheist by jonbellion(m): 11:09am On Nov 21, 2016

honourhim:

Mr adviser can you now see that your client has confessed that she wasn't a Christian? You people are so pathetic.

What was the point of that undecided

Some "christlike" spirit you've got going there grin

Re: I'm A New Atheist by damogul: 11:14am On Nov 21, 2016

jonbellion:
What was the point of that
Some "christlike" spirit you've got going there

Tell that to LiberaDeus who was quick to become her counsel and offer her advice on what to expect while assuming she was formerly born again and a Christian to begin with. That was why honourhim said you people are pathetic.

Its like going to court and your client decides to sack you and defend herself. She just blew her case. Simple and short.

As christians we test every spirit! I just tested her and she failed.

Re: I'm A New Atheist by honourhim: 11:16am On Nov 21, 2016

mhizesther:
well,i was never a christian and will never be a christian....who cares if ur jesus promised u a trouble free life or not...i

Yea you were never a Christian rather you were a wolve in sheep Clothen. A hydra headed monster in the house of God.
God

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Re: I'm A New Atheist by honourhim: 11:19am On Nov 21, 2016

jonbellion:
What was the point of that
Some "christlike" spirit you've got going there

Yea i just called you people what you are. Quite a pathetic bunch. I would rather die than be an atheist.

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Re: I'm A New Atheist by jonbellion(m): 11:29am On Nov 21, 2016

honourhim:

Yea i just called you people what you are. Quite a pathetic bunch. I would rather die than be an atheist.

yeah sure
Our lives are so screwed just cuz we don't believe in your Jewish man that is worshiped as a God
Well you're a Disciple In Christs Kingdom(DICK)
it's okay to be a dick when your being a dick for Christ grin

Don't worry you won't die I don't hope for that

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Re: I'm A New Atheist by Nobody: 11:32am On Nov 21, 2016

damogul:
Why are you contradicting yourself? First you say you were a Christian and attended church and was even a chorister and now you say

Are u blind or what?i think u should read again ....i never said i was a christian...and let mr guess...u attend a spirit filled church ...and im sure they are after ur soul.....u better wake up and stop deceiving urself ..u claim to be able to discern and yet u still believe in one book talking about one fictional jesus....Christians are really stupid ....u're so quick to defend ur jesus....well,one day u'll realize that every single thing u believed in was a lie

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Re: I'm A New Atheist by damogul: 11:35am On Nov 21, 2016

jonbellion:
yeah sure
Our lives are so screwed just cuz we don't believe in your Jewish man that is worshiped as a God
Well you're a Disciple In Christs Kingdom(DICK)
it's okay to be a dick when your being a dick for Christ
Don't worry you won't die I don't hope for that

Goal post massively shifted shocked

The OP has been found out as this is her thread to begin with and not about honourhim.

The rug just got pulled right from under her to the chagrin of you guys. Or were we the ones who put those words in her mouth to say? She confessed and boy did i love her confession grin

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Re: I'm A New Atheist by olutosfem(f): 11:36am On Nov 21, 2016

hopefulLandlord:

what does this mean? what language is this?

use Google translate tongue

Re: I'm A New Atheist by damogul: 11:37am On Nov 21, 2016

[quote author=mhizesther post=51229991][/quote]

No need to be bitter. You have been found out.

Someone listed out counsel to you and i quote

Nice testimony.
I hope you know what they will say on this thread.
Christians will say the following and they have already started saying it

1. You were never really born again or you were a wolf in sheep's clothing

2. If you were a Christian, you didn't have a real relationship with Christ, you were a legalistic Christian and you focused on your own works, you should have sought the assistance of the spirit.

3. You are a weak Christian, just because you lost your grandma you fell out of the faith. Christians suffered more than that, Jesus was even crucified, god didn't promise you a life free from trouble.

They will say the above and much more but don't worry cause the rebuttals to all these points are available.
Remember to always keep an open mind in all you do. Don't dismiss religious views totally, always think and consider their view points and also the atheistic view points.
Unlike us, Christians grow their faith by avoiding dissenting world views and obfuscation of other religions and view points. But we freethinkers accept all ideas and reason them, we are like an open melting pot if ideas, if the truth can face resistance from different ideas and still remain then that truth is certain.

Religious truth is like a spoilt brat shielded from all the world's challenges that's why when it faces the light of different ideas, they go berserk, they feel surprised that such views exist and they feel unsettled.
But atheistic truth is like a child that has been sent to military school to learn the challenges of life. That child is not unsettled by challenges.

Do you see the bolded? You read it and replied to his post but never refuted his assertions but when i got you to confess you are calling me names? shocked

Atheism sha grin

Re: I'm A New Atheist by jonbellion(m): 11:38am On Nov 21, 2016

damogul:

Goal post massively shifted

The OP has been found out as this is her thread to begin with and not about honourhim.

The rug just got pulled right from under her to the chagrin of you guys. Or were we the ones who put those words in her mouth to say? She confessed and boy did i love her confession

lol.yeah I guess the statement was wrong I'm not dentokhe that

Re: I'm A New Atheist by Nobody: 11:38am On Nov 21, 2016

jonbellion:
yeah sure
Our lives are so screwed just cuz we don't believe in your Jewish man that is worshiped as a God
Well you're a Disciple In Christs Kingdom(DICK)
it's okay to be a dick when your being a dick for Christ
Don't worry you won't die I don't hope for that

Exactly they believe their jewish man is the true way......

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Re: I'm A New Atheist by damogul: 11:39am On Nov 21, 2016

[quote author=mhizesther post=51229991][/quote]

Your recent words

i never said i was a christian...and let mr guess...u attend a spirit filled church ...and im sure they are after ur soul.....u better wake up and stop deceiving urself ..u claim to be able to discern and yet u still believe in one book talking about one fictional Jesus....Christians are really stupid ....u're so quick to defend ur Jesus....well,one day u'll realize that every single thing u believed in was a lie

How can you call something a lie when you never practiced or believed in it? Are you confused or you need me to type slower so you understand me?

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Re: I'm A New Atheist by damogul: 11:41am On Nov 21, 2016

mhizesther:
Exactly they believe their jewish man is the true way......

If you still cannot understand the simple scenario that played out here which you even roped yourself into unknowingly how in Gods good name would you have the intellect to dispute the existence of God besides throwing a tantrum and diatribes everywhere?

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Re: I'm A New Atheist by jonbellion(m): 11:42am On Nov 21, 2016

Well things have certainly gone off on the wrong foot.........

Re: I'm A New Atheist by damogul: 11:43am On Nov 21, 2016

jonbellion:
Well things have certainly gone off in the wrong foot.........

You dont say!!! cheesy

Re: I'm A New Atheist by urheme: 11:44am On Nov 21, 2016

mhizesther:
Hello everyone,i joined nairaland in september and ive been observing for a while....im an atheist and i look forward to making new friends....i would love to have christian friends too but pls dont tell me about ur jesus...im not interested in that jesus stuff...im a nice person and i really have a lot of questions for christians....

your friendship proposal is accepted.

Re: I'm A New Atheist by damogul: 11:47am On Nov 21, 2016

urheme:

your friendship proposal is accepted.

@mhizesther This guy right here was once an atheist like you. You would do well to make him your friend.

Re: I'm A New Atheist by urheme: 11:54am On Nov 21, 2016

damogul:

@mhizesther This guy right here was once an atheist like you. You would do well to make him your friend.

perhaps you can link her to my thread. it will be fun.. as i have added some new post today.

Re: I'm A New Atheist by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:02pm On Nov 21, 2016

mhizesther:
Exactly they believe their jewish man is the true way......

Woman , rejecting Jesus or any religion does not make you an atheist . If your rejection of religion is why you think that you are an atheist , then calling you an atheist is a misnomer .

There are so many philosophical propositions that reject religion while acknowledging the existence of God .

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Re: I'm A New Atheist by damogul: 12:04pm On Nov 21, 2016

mhizesther:
Exactly they believe their jewish man is the true way......

https://www.nairaland.com/3457983/atheist-encountered-powers-dunamis-there

Re: I'm A New Atheist by damogul: 12:05pm On Nov 21, 2016

KingEbukasBlog:

Woman , rejecting Jesus or any religion does not make you an atheist . If your rejection of religion is why you think that you are an atheist , then calling you an atheist is a misnomer .

There are so many philosophical propositions that reject religion while acknowledging the existence of God .

She is extremely confused and simply acting like a kid who got denied a stick of sweet. She is pouting at her maker. Further probing would reveal so much more underneath.

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Re: I'm A New Atheist by slyslesk(m): 12:06pm On Nov 21, 2016

This is just my simple contribution

- Christianity is a pretty religion and is a good way to serve a God but is not the only way, there are loads of other ways

- Different people serve God in different ways and no one religion can be proven to be better than the other. There is Islam, Buddhism , etc, all of these are religions created to do the same thing, serve a God
- Not being a Christian does not detract from you in any way whatsoever, as it simply means you choose not to inculcate the practices of a certain group of people, you choose to explore you own individuality and define the terms on which you choose to exist

- The problem is that most Nigerians were brought up in families and environments there the absolute truth in life was linked to to a particular religion, hence if you are not a muslim or a christian, you are viewed as "having a problem" People fear what they don't understand and this is simply ignorance on the part of religious fanatics

- There was a time when we had our own African religions and we were proud of them but there was conscious campaign by the West( using missionaries) to get Africans to reject their culture and religion in a bid to accept a foreign way of life ( social domination). This was all a step in the complete conquest of the African man and an attempt to eradicate the semblance of good in anything African, hence the considering of any African practice or religion as being barbaric or demonized.

Summary: The bunch of Nigerians are ignorant and they unfortunately do not have information of the origin of the religion or the real intentions for the introduction of the religion and as such have built their lives and reality around it and as such lash out whenever someone speaks truth which threatens the validity of their belief system

- I need to clear about this; I do not have anything against the religion as it could be used to do good and it has also been used to commit a lot of evil. All I say is if you choose not to practice, you loose absolutely nothing.

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Re: I'm A New Atheist by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:06pm On Nov 21, 2016

damogul:

She is extremely confused and simply acting like a kid who got denied a stick of sweet. She is pouting at her maker. Further probing would reveal so much more underneath.

I believe so

Re: I'm A New Atheist by LiberaDeus: 12:09pm On Nov 21, 2016

I don't understand what you Christians are all about.

I predicted what you guys would say and it wasn't up to 10 minutes and you said it.

What if she wasn't a Christian? What's the big deal there
Does that change the fact that there are countless Christians who have left the faith because of contradictions.

Why are you Christians jumping up and down because she said she was never a Christian. Does that somehow prove that only non Christians leave the church or what?

Do you guys seriously want to go down that path.
There is a site named Exchristian.net you can visit it and see countless testimonies of former Christians who were as christian as you can ever be leaving the fold because of enlightenment.

She introduced herself and Christians didn't even allow her land and they are trying to tear her to pieces.

I think Christians are the ones who show insecurity on this forum.

When hardmirror created his thread, all the Christians went berserk, insulting him and using the same diatribes used here.

When urheme created his own thread, the same Christians were literally overjoyed, urging him to go on and on.

The fact is that Christians need validation and protection of their faith. That's why when they see exchristians testifying they can't seem to swallow why someone like them would leave the fold, such a realization is a threat to the belief that when one is in Christ he is a new creation. They attack because they can't accept.

When they now see an ex atheist turning Christian, they jump in joy, they shove it in everyone's face.
When a notable scientist like michio kaku claims that he believes in god, so many Christian apologist websites jumped on the news and brandished it as proof of the divine but they don't even check to see that Kaku never talked about their own god.

Let's get something straight now, people can shift from religion to atheism and vice versa, people can switch religions, almost any philosophical shift is possible and there are reasons for them.

Lets not turn this thread into an argument for no just cause. She is an atheist, leave her like that, no need to try and discredit her atheism or Christianity or whatever you think you are trying to discredit.

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Re: I'm A New Atheist by damogul: 12:11pm On Nov 21, 2016

KingEbukasBlog:

I believe so

She just requested to follow me here on NL and i have accepted.

I feel for the kid. She simply needs guidance and a personal experience and if she is willing i can offer that.

@ mhizesther can we talk offline? I am willing to be your friend if you would let me.

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