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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 11:39pm On Nov 20, 2016
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/19/brexit-trump-left-crucial-flaw-leavers-alt-right-ruthlessness

Someone replied to this and boy was he right?he sure is.

The problem was that liberals don't really get angry until it's too late. We vote for what we think it best, but we also value compromise and unity (mostly). We don't really get pissed enough to get to the polls, merely only enough to protest and complain. We don't get angry enough about issues like gerrymandering, climate change, defunding of planned parenthood, or the lack of affordable healthcare.

We feel like our views are objectively correct and will be vindicated by history, so anything bad that happens is merely a setback for liberalism. That makes us smug and arrogant. Conservatives feel like their entire ideology is under attack and every election is about survival of conservatism. Conservatives get angry because they see all the problems of the US that affect them and they don't see liberals upset about things like healthcare and poverty.

They see us happy for progress and change, but they don't see us getting mad on their behalf and they don't see us hating the status quo. They rarely benefit from such progress and change, so they learn not to trust liberal positivity. Seems like liberals only get marginally angry enough to protest identity issues, since many of us have a hard time emphasizing with the rural poor. Liberals need to fight on their behalf too. We need anger at the broken system itself, not smug indifference or moral superiority. That's how you get the rural vote. Anger gets people to the polls, smugness gets us nowhere.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 11:49pm On Nov 20, 2016
BigIyanga:

Folks like you drink delusional cocktails!! Naija has 11m children not enrolled in school! 10s of millions of Nigerians are homeless. Over 70m. nigerians do not have access to toilet. Over 70m Nigerians are poor. Over 60m Nigerians can neither read nor write. Where are you living? Stop this nonsense.

Keep calling me delusional. Lol.

I can see comprehension is a big problem for you. Go back to all our conversation and show me where I said that Naija does not have her share of 3rd world problem.

My position is simple,I will say it again since you find it difficult to comprehend. THE US WITH ALL IS WEALTH AND SUPPOSEDLY THE PLACE ON EARTH, STILL GRAPLES WITH ISSUES THAT ARE COMMON WITH THIRD WORLD NATIONS as compare with nations like Japan, France, Netherlands, Belgium etc.

45 million people live in poverty in the US
over 1.5 million lived in some form of shelter a with confirm over 500,000 being completely homeless
about 33 million American do not have medical insurance
estimated 90,185 rapes in 2015
estimated 1,197,704 violent crimes
New UIS figures show that 1 in 11 children is out of school, totaling 59 million children

The country with the best health care system is in Europe
10 countries with best educational system – sorry your US of A is no where near that least
10 countries with best human right index, your epitome of justice and democracy the US of A didn’t make that cut.
10 least corrupt countries in the world; brother your dear US of A did not make it.
10 countries with the most expensive health care system, you know who took the first spot, US of A of course.

So please on what basis are you getting a hard on ?
grin grin grin

The above statistics is not a reflection of heaven on earth coming from the US of A. You should be embarrassed. Maybe instead of arguing blindly with me it will do a great deed to take some time of the crap that CNN has been feeding. Spend some actual time and researching on what life actual is like for people in Germany, Japan, Finland etc those are countries you should compare with US and pray that some day you non-corrupt politician will be gracious enough to make your life as good as the lives of the ordinary citizens of the aforementioned country.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by BigIyanga: 12:49am On Nov 21, 2016
woodcook:


Keep calling me delusional. Lol.

I can see comprehension is a big problem for you. Go back to all our conversation and show me where I said that Naija does not have her share of 3rd world problem.

My position is simple,I will say it again since you find it difficult to comprehend. THE US WITH ALL IS WEALTH AND SUPPOSEDLY THE PLACE ON EARTH, STILL GRAPLES WITH ISSUES THAT ARE COMMON WITH THIRD WORLD NATIONS as compare with nations like Japan, France, Netherlands, Belgium etc.

45 million people live in poverty in the US
over 1.5 million lived in some form of shelter a with confirm over 500,000 being completely homeless
about 33 million American do not have medical insurance
estimated 90,185 rapes in 2015
estimated 1,197,704 violent crimes
New UIS figures show that 1 in 11 children is out of school, totaling 59 million children

The country with the best health care system is in Europe
10 countries with best educational system – sorry your US of A is no where near that least
10 countries with best human right index, your epitome of justice and democracy the US of A didn’t make that cut.
10 least corrupt countries in the world; brother your dear US of A did not make it.
10 countries with the most expensive health care system, you know who took the first spot, US of A of course.

So please on what basis are you getting a hard on ?
grin grin grin

The above statistics is not a reflection of heaven on earth coming from the US of A. You should be embarrassed. Maybe instead of arguing blindly with me it will do a great deed to take some time of the crap that CNN has been feeding. Spend some actual time and researching on what life actual is like for people in Germany, Japan, Finland etc those are countries you should compare with US and pray that some day you non-corrupt politician will be gracious enough to make your life as good as the lives of the ordinary citizens of the aforementioned country.
You keep quoting some numbers that you have no clear understanding and application of. Povery threshold in the US is $12k a year while in Naija it's $2/day/$730/yr?
Quality of staff, equipment, medications and care given at Hospitals like Stroger-Chicago, Ben Taub in Houston, and Grady in ATL-all catering to the poor and illegal immigrants cannnot be found in Aso Rock.
Dude, in Naija over 30 states are owing pensioners and workers; they are dying of hunger and frustration while you're talking about poverty in the US?

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 6:34am On Nov 21, 2016
BigIyanga:

You keep quoting some numbers that you have no clear understanding and application of. Povery threshold in the US is $12k a year while in Naija it's $2/day/$730/yr?
Quality of staff, equipment, medications and care given at Hospitals like Stroger-Chicago, Ben Taub in Houston, and Grady in ATL-all catering to the poor and illegal immigrants cannnot be found in Aso Rock.
Dude, in Naija over 30 states are owing pensioners and workers; they are dying of hunger and frustration while you're talking about poverty in the US?

Keep displaying your ignorance. You just said I am brandishing statistics and you went ahead to compare US with Nigeria. I really do not know how you make it to the other side of the road everyday.

Common sense/first year course in statistics should have thought you; to compare like items- bros compare US with Japan, Germany , France etc. Stop comparing US with Naija to make you feel go. Comparing Nigeria with US is like comparing orange and apple (if you know what that means).

Moreover, I do not see you disproving those figures. You just keep comparing Nigeria and US after I have made it clear to you two days ago what the basis of our conversation is[b].To be honest you are the typical American that Europeans talk about. Use your head for once.[/b]

I will not reply you again bro as long as you keep parroting this US and Naija comparison without addressing the main point of our conversation.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by BekeeBuAgbara: 8:50am On Nov 21, 2016
Trump is gracious in victory, he has been reaching out to his former rivals and critics. That's a hallmark of a good leader.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 11:33am On Nov 21, 2016
BekeeBuAgbara:
Trump is gracious in victory, he has been reaching out to his former rivals and critics. That's a hallmark of a good leader.
He is very accommodating , more than most folks can imagine, not what d media painted him to be, they only tried to destroy his personality and image simply because he was seen as a threat to the establishment. Yes he has his own flaws, just like d rest of us but not d worst.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by missjo(f): 1:02pm On Nov 21, 2016
Lucasbalo:
The guy is just like that mosquitos that always sings irrationally in your ears while sleeping. What he was saying makes absolutely no sense. We have something called Rule of Law in America where there is no one thrown to jail without being indicted, prosecuted and found guilty and jailed upon conviction. The guy probably think America is Nigeria where DSS and EFCC just barge into people's homes and carted them to some underground jail in Abuja. I am not surprised with him though. That's why I referenced his Edo residence . The more you try to let him understand the way things work the more annoying he gets.
LOL, it's alright I get you.

Still fun reading your exchanges, and don't hate on Edo. angry
My mom is from Edo. tongue
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 3:01pm On Nov 21, 2016
missjo:

LOL, it's alright I get you.

Still fun reading your exchanges, and don't hate on Edo. angry
My mom is from Edo. tongue
I like Edo too especially Benin Kingdom. My Great grandfather was the Eleko of Eko before they were called Oba of Lagos and you know the rest of the history. ( Omo Oba Lereko, Omo Iroko Lado . ).

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by missjo(f): 5:27pm On Nov 21, 2016
Lucasbalo:
I like Edo too especially Benin Kingdom. My Great grandfather was the Eleko of Eko before they were called Oba of Lagos and you know the rest of the history. ( Omo Oba Lereko, Omo Iroko Lado . ).
Nice. So you're royalty. grin

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 5:37pm On Nov 21, 2016
missjo:

Nice. So you're royalty. grin
Funny enough, I am from Ologunkutere royal house and my father was one of the final contestants for the current Obaship which Oba Akinolu won. My father uses Prince but my siblings and I don't go for that since we were all brought up in Chicago . My father is well known in Lagos. He's the one that put the love of Nigeria in us all and the reason we are all very fluent in Yoruba .
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by missjo(f): 5:41pm On Nov 21, 2016
Lucasbalo:
Funny enough, I am for Ologunkutere royal house and my father was one of the final contestants for the current Obaship which Oba Akinolu won. My father uses Prince but my siblings and I don't go for that since we were all brought up in Chicago . My father is well known in Lagos. He's the one that put the love of Nigeria in us all and the reason we are all very fluent in Yoruba .
Wow, that's good to know.

Prince Lucas, hmmm..has a nice ring & feel to it. cheesy

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by armyofone(m): 7:10pm On Nov 21, 2016
Omo oba Lucas wink, I'm looking for job connection for a brother. Need your help.
I feel for the Chicago Congress man whose grandson was killed...such boldness cry
Lucasbalo:
Funny enough, I am for Ologunkutere royal house and my father was one of the final contestants for the current Obaship which Oba Akinolu won. My father uses Prince but my siblings and I don't go for that since we were all brought up in Chicago . My father is well known in Lagos. He's the one that put the love of Nigeria in us all and the reason we are all very fluent in Yoruba .

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 7:45pm On Nov 21, 2016
armyofone:
Omo oba Lucas wink, I'm looking for job connection for a brother. Need your help.
I feel for the Chicago Congress man whose grandson was killed...such boldness cry
That's Chicago for you with all the mindless crimes. Killing a 15 year old for Basketball shoes. The funny thing is that all of them were friends. Is your brother in Chicagoland area ?.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 10:37pm On Nov 21, 2016
Missy89:


I don't do stereotypes. You are just ignorant. Those are two different things. By the way, Bernie voted to fund the iraq war, he voted for the war in Yugoslavia a decision so controversial his staffers resigned in protest. He has voted for almost every defense spending bill in the house.

The holier than thou attitude of Berniebros is so disgusting. You can go fvck yourself with your vote. Don't care who you vote for. Just don't post shites that does not add up here because some of us will set things straight in case someone else is reading.


Babie, stop wasting my precious time. You know I need a girl! grin cheesy grin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQIGdXtHiLE

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 8:49am On Nov 22, 2016
Rep Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii) showed up at Trump Tower yesterday. There are rumors that she could be Trump's UN Ambassador. The 35 year old Democrat has served in the US House of Reps since 2013, and is quite fluent in foreign policy issues.

If the rumor becomes a reality, the Trump team would have scored a strategic coup in poaching a potential DNC Chair and a potential 2020 Democratic presidential adversary. However, serving in Trump's administration would hurt her future ambitions within the Dem Party, especially if the American economy gets worse within the next 2 or 4 years.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 6:50pm On Nov 22, 2016
I'd recommend reading "Inside The Beltway.." by Michelle Fields. It's an interesting read on govt waste and corruption.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 8:01pm On Nov 22, 2016
CFCman:
Rep Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii) showed up at Trump Tower yesterday. There are rumors that she could be Trump's UN Ambassador. The 35 year old Democrat has served in the US House of Reps since 2013, and is quite fluent in foreign policy issues.

If the rumor becomes a reality, the Trump team would have scored a strategic coup in poaching a potential DNC Chair and a potential 2020 Democratic presidential adversary. However, serving in Trump's administration would hurt her future ambitions within the Dem Party, especially if the American economy gets worse within the next 2 or 4 years.
Any democrat taking up positions and appointments under a Trump administration will be labeled a terrorist by the Left.

Right now our top priorities is 2018,we have close to 500 seats to take back in state houses and 16 governor races to battle for.Our top price also is draining Congress of the cold hearted reptilian blood suckers currently in the majority.

Tulsi and any other democrat can suck up to Trump if they want.They are the least of our worries now.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by missjo(f): 10:26pm On Nov 22, 2016
ValerianSteel:
Any democrat taking up positions and appointments under a Trump administration will be labeled a terrorist by the Left.

Right now our top priorities is 2018,we have close to 500 seats to take back in state houses and 16 governor races to battle for.Our top price also is draining Congress of the cold hearted reptilian blood suckers currently in the majority.

Tulsi and any other democrat can suck up to Trump if they want.They are the least of our worries now.
Now who's being divisive.LOL grin

I remember telling one of my best friends sometime last year about how a lot of Democrats are the best and most progressive group of people UNTIL they get into the opposition. This is history replaying itself, yea it's happened before.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 5:47am On Nov 23, 2016
DING DONG DING.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by BekeeBuAgbara: 12:03pm On Nov 23, 2016
The US stock keep breaking records positively since Trump won the election, contrary to doom the liberal media envisaged before the election.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 12:46pm On Nov 23, 2016
BekeeBuAgbara:
The US stock keep breaking records positively since Trump won the election, contrary to doom the liberal media envisaged before the election.

I voted Republican but don't be an idiot...It's Holiday season, Lots of Trade activity, Trump didn't do anything...Yet.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 12:57pm On Nov 23, 2016
Donald picks SC governor Nikki Haley to be US ambassador to the UN.

Guess,that leaves Romney as his possible Secretary of State pick.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 1:06pm On Nov 23, 2016
missjo:

Now who's being divisive.LOL grin

I remember telling one of my best friends sometime last year about how a lot of Democrats are the best and most progressive group of people UNTIL they get into the opposition. This is history replaying itself, yea it's happened before.
For what it's worth,you should be reminded that Democrats didn't hold the country down and threaten to shut down the government every year just to obstruct the president's every decision.

As you've clearly seen,Democrats are ready to work with Trump for the good of the country to keep the country on the right path.If there's one thing we've learnt over the years Republicans are yet to understand the concept of Compromise and Concessions.

If the country fails this time,they won't have fingers to point or a President to falsely blame a sitting president for the nation's every woes.Tick tock tick,the odds do not favor the GOP,they fail in the next three years,hopefully they all go down.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by BekeeBuAgbara: 2:40pm On Nov 23, 2016
Vanquay:


I voted Republican but don't be an idiot...It's Holiday season, Lots of Trade activity, Trump didn't do anything...Yet.
Is idiot your father's name? undecided

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Missy89(f): 4:06pm On Nov 23, 2016
ValerianSteel:
Donald picks SC governor Nikki Haley to be US ambassador to the UN.

Guess,that leaves Romney as his possible Secretary of State pick.


Great choices. Now give cruz scalia's seat. Liberal meltdown will be delicious

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 5:37pm On Nov 23, 2016
Missy89:


Great choices. Now give cruz scalia's seat. Liberal meltdown will be delicious

Babie, you weren't paying attention to me. I said I need A Girl. grin cheesy grin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_dTOPEWt9U

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by missjo(f): 6:59pm On Nov 23, 2016
ValerianSteel:
For what it's worth,you should be reminded that Democrats didn't hold the country down and threaten to shut down the government every year just to obstruct the president's every decision.

As you've clearly seen,Democrats are ready to work with Trump for the good of the country to keep the country on the right path.If there's one thing we've learnt over the years Republicans are yet to understand the concept of Compromise and Concessions.

If the country fails this time,they won't have fingers to point or a President to falsely blame a sitting president for the nation's every woes.Tick tock tick,the odds do not favor the GOP,they fail in the next three years,hopefully they all go down.
LOL, alright then. grin
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 7:20pm On Nov 23, 2016
Hi Missjo, how are ya? Like your siggy. smiley
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 8:14pm On Nov 23, 2016
Missy89:


Great choices. Now give cruz scalia's seat. Liberal meltdown will be delicious
You guys will have a civil war on your hands if Cruz makes it to the steps of the Supreme Court.Am sure Lying Ted has future ambitions and a career to protect cause he'll throw that out the door the moment he accepts such nomination.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 8:21pm On Nov 23, 2016
Another croc from the swamp has been added into the cabinet which is intended to be free from members of the swamp.

Betsy Devos,a member from the family of republican kingmakers in Michigan.She's a fair choice for Education Sec,a choice that needs to be watched closely once in office.

It's going to be a long four years,that swamp seems to be enjoying it's expansion program into new territories thanks to Donald.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 8:22pm On Nov 23, 2016
Like Obama, I don't believe Ted Cruz will accept a Supreme Court nomination.

He is too flamboyant for such a 'boring' job

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 9:05pm On Nov 23, 2016
ValerianSteel:
Another croc from the swamp has been added into the cabinet which is intended to be free from members of the swamp.

Betsy Devos,a member from the family of republican kingmakers in Michigan.She's a fair choice for Education Sec,a choice that needs to be watched closely once in office.

It's going to be a long four years,that swamp seems to be enjoying it's expansion program into new territories thanks to Donald.
Trump is looking for experienced hands.

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