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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 8:06pm On Dec 12, 2016
lordfalcao:

Lukaku didn't take Everton to the Europa league. When he signed Everton finished 5th..

Why are you embarrassing yourself?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 8:13pm On Dec 12, 2016
Nihilist:


Why are you embarrassing yourself?
it still didn't change that the next two seasons he took them to 11th
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by homesteady(m): 8:15pm On Dec 12, 2016
Ibime:


Is your argument seriously about the number of countries in FIFA in 2005?

This is a troll so I should ignore such pedantry, however I will say that you must be lacking any sort of formal education to be asking such obtuse nonsense.

Who gave you a magic figure that 200 members must vote before an award becomes valid? Just because I said 200+ members voted for Terry?

Intelligent forumites are picking solid arguments, see the angle you went to pick. You see your life for outside?

I don't know or give a phuck how many members FIFA had in 2005. It could be 180 or 210. It could even be just 100, all that matters is that an educated person knows that those numbers represent a valid sample size.

My friend, do you have a PH.d in going out of point?
Go and read your former posts and stop filling this thread with nonsense!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dyabman(m): 8:18pm On Dec 12, 2016
Na wa o
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 8:26pm On Dec 12, 2016
timbros:


Does winning La Liga and making UCL final appearance make Costa more experienced than Lukaku in the English premier league?

It is interesting how you turned a blind eye on the point that Costa's goals gave us a domestic double in his first season!

Costa is the main reason we are top of the league today. As tight as our defence is, would they have given us 6 points from Boro and West Brom matches?

You still haven't converted their goals per game % let's see who is better.

Strikers A played 20 matches and scored 10 goals and Striker B played 10 matches and scored 8 goals. Striker A must be better because he scored more goals.

I don't know how you guys analyse things like neophytes.

Costa is a vastly experienced striker who was the focal point of a la liga winning team and UCL finalist.

That sort of experience was replicated when he scored 20 goals for Chelsea is his debut season, so your point about Costa lacking EPL experience is moot and and of no real value

Costa's goals are useful yes, but there are currently teams who have scored more than us sitting below us on the table. Anybody with eyes can see that the main difference is that Chelsea has conceded fewer goals than 18 other teams in the league.

If we had conceded a goal each in the Boro and West Brom matches, we would be 2nd, and only 2 points ahead of Liverpool. Costa would still have his 12 goals aND still top the goal chart. We just won't be top of the league, which is EXACTLY What happened to Harry Kane last season, and is what is happening to Lukaku now.

I have shown you charts over the last 3 seasons showing that even at our worst, Chelsea was creating exponentially more chances than Everton.

I mean Fab was the top assister in 14/15 FFS. You want to compare Costa's almost telepathic service from Fabregas to what Lukaku is receiving from the like Tom Cleverly and Gareth Barry?

What is wrong with you people sef? undecided

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 8:33pm On Dec 12, 2016
No enough theory can explain or point that lukaku is better than Costa. Take it anywhere..
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 8:33pm On Dec 12, 2016
lordfalcao:
it still didn't change that the next two seasons he took them to 11th

This would make sense if Lukaku did not score 45 goals over the last 2 seasons...

Try again.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 8:36pm On Dec 12, 2016
Nihilist:


This would make sense if Lukaku did not score 45 goals over the last 2 seasons...

Try again.
you mean the same amount of goals Costa score in 2 season too??
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 8:39pm On Dec 12, 2016
lordfalcao:
you mean the same amount of goals Costa score in 2 season too??

You've already trapped yourself with this question.

Figure it out.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 8:42pm On Dec 12, 2016
Nihilist:


You've already trapped yourself with this question.

Figure it out.
doesn't it tell you. That if Costa can score 45 in 2 season same as lukaku, although lukaku have played 2 years already on loan to westbrom and Everton before Costa joined EPL he will smartly outscore lukaku in 2 seasons to come.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 8:44pm On Dec 12, 2016
lordfalcao:
doesn't it tell you. That if Costa can score 45 in 2 season same as lukaku, although lukaku have played 2 years already on loan to westbrom and Everton before Costa joined EPL he will smartly outscore lukaku in 2 seasons to come.

I'm not surprised you didn't figure it out...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 8:46pm On Dec 12, 2016
Nihilist:


I'm not surprised you didn't figure it out...
grin grin grin G make we leave Costa Mata, everybody know who better pass jaree. How you day?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 8:50pm On Dec 12, 2016
lordfalcao:
grin grin grin G make we leave Costa Mata, everybody know who better pass jaree. How you day?

Bro I dey like Dele. How your chics?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 9:02pm On Dec 12, 2016
Nihilist:


I don't know how you guys analyse things like neophytes.

Costa is a vastly experienced striker who was the focal point of a la liga winning team and UCL finalist.

That sort of experience was replicated when he scored 20 goals for Chelsea is his debut season, so your point about Costa lacking EPL experience is moot and and of no real value

Costa's goals are useful yes, but there are currently teams who have scored more than us sitting below us on the table. Anybody with eyes can see that the main difference is that Chelsea has conceded fewer goals than 18 other teams in the league.

If we had conceded a goal each in the Boro and West Brom matches, we would be 2nd, and only 2 points ahead of Liverpool. Costa would still have his 12 goals aND still top the goal chart. We just won't be top of the league, which is EXACTLY What happened to Harry Kane last season, and is what is happening to Lukaku now.

I have shown you charts over the last 3 seasons showing that even at our worst, Chelsea was creating exponentially more chances than Everton.

I mean Fab was the top assister in 14/15 FFS. You want to compare Costa's almost telepathic service from Fabregas to what Lukaku is receiving from the like Tom Cleverly and Gareth Barry?

What is wrong with you people sef? undecided

You are talking as if you haven't seen vastly experienced players who change league and suddenly struggle to adapt in his new environment.

Defence doesn't win you the league. Attack does. What's so hard to understand there? Football is simply, outscore your opponent chikena. Even if you concede 20 goals per match and is able to score 21 goals per match, you will win the league. But tighten your defence, keep clean sheet in all 38 matches and don't score let's see how you can win the league.

If we hadn't scored against Boro and West Brom, that is 4 points dropped. Defence have done their job (keep clean sheet) but without Costa's goals, we would have been below Liverpool and/or Arsenal.

Lukaku improving his goal tally for the past seasons in Everton is just a personal achievement. His goals have not in any way improved Everton’s overall campaign in the said seasons. Emaprince has even showed you here that Everton of Yakubu era is even better than Everton of Lukaku era.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 9:08pm On Dec 12, 2016
Nihilist:


Bro I dey like Dele. How your chics?

everybody dy form breakeup grin grin December don come, there demand no go be here.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 9:09pm On Dec 12, 2016
God of mercy! From Terry vs Boatank to Terry vs Iniesta to Lampard vs xavi to Hazard vs neymer to.......now na lukaku vs The Governor... Chai! See Wat Buhari has cause..... People jobless for this place a swear... Quote me and DIE

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by AbuMikey(m): 9:17pm On Dec 12, 2016
These guys be making noise Upandan angry
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bi0nics: 9:30pm On Dec 12, 2016
sweetboiy:
God of mercy! From Terry vs Boatank to Terry vs Iniesta to Lampard vs xavi to Hazard vs neymer to.......now na lukaku vs The Governor... Chai! See Wat Buhari has cause..... People jobless for this place a swear... Quote me and DIE

You shouldn't have entered in the first place..


Bad thing i didn't die
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 9:37pm On Dec 12, 2016
diggz:
airmark na werey I swear........

200usd vs 1000usd....... shocked cheesy

Out of curiosity, writing werey mean?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bi0nics: 9:43pm On Dec 12, 2016
donjazet:

Out of curiosity, writing werey mean?

Its been abused..

Literally it means Madness.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 9:45pm On Dec 12, 2016
timbros:


You are talking as if you haven't seen vastly experienced players who change league and suddenly struggle to adapt in his new environment.

Defence doesn't win you the league. Attack does. What's so hard to understand there? Football is simply, outscore your opponent chikena. Even if you concede 20 goals per match and is able to score 21 goals per match, you will win the league. But tighten your defence, keep clean sheet in all 38 matches and don't score let's see how you can win the league.

If we hadn't scored against Boro and West Brom, that is 4 points dropped. Defence have done their job (keep clean sheet) but without Costa's goals, we would have been below Liverpool and/or Arsenal.

Lukaku improving his goal tally for the past seasons in Everton is just a personal achievement. His goals have not in any way improved Everton’s overall campaign in the said seasons. Emaprince has even showed you here that Everton of Yakubu era is even better than Everton of Lukaku era.


Timbros I like you. I don't like the way you are talking like a neophyte.

You clearly don't understand my point. Twisting my example to try and show what happens when Costa does not score is completely ignorant of the inherent point.

Nobody argues that goals are not important. Afterall Lukaku was the 4th highest scorer last season. The point here is that regardless of the goals scored by a striker, the utility of his goals are only apparent when his team manage to keep out more than he scores.

That's why I gave the example of Kane who outscored Vardy and Aguero who tied Vardy for goals, yet Leicester won the league.

Just this weekend, Lukaku scored a brace, but his team conceded 3 to lose 3-2. How useful were his goals then? A fool will say that Lukaku is rubbish because his goals did not translate to a win.

Lukaku scored 18 league goals last season. Costa scored 12. Yet Chelsea finished above Everton.

An idiot will say Lukaku did not improve Everton last season, but only THREE players scored more in the league last season, and yet TEN teams finished ahead of Everton.

Saying that Lukaku's improvement upfront is merely a personal improvement is a very stupid thing to say, because it implies that a Striker who contributed a total of 24 league goals last season, and scored more goals than over 400 registered players in thr league, should have been playing in goal.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 9:49pm On Dec 12, 2016
bi0nics:


Its been abused..

Literally it means Madness.

Is it Yoruba?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by elrony(m): 10:23pm On Dec 12, 2016
You know you are unproductive as an AM when a CB has more career goals than you!!! grin grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Emaprince: 10:24pm On Dec 12, 2016
donjazet:

Out of curiosity, writing werey mean?
it means 'mad person' in yoruba. More like saying

Airmark na mad man I swear
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 10:27pm On Dec 12, 2016
elrony:
You know you are unproductive as an AM when a CB has more career goals than you!!! grin grin

And some think he is best AM of all time.

We asked why he is so unproductive as an AM, they told us he is busy recycling possession.

I dare anyone to show me stats putting Iniesta in the top 20 possession hoggers.

There are two big frauds in Barca. One is being exposed at Man City as we speak. Iniesta will never have that chance to be exposed but no one can show me that he does anything better than Santi Cazorla.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Debroslink: 10:28pm On Dec 12, 2016
elrony:
You know you are unproductive as an AM when a CB has more career goals than you!!! grin grin

I hope Hazard is reading this comment. cool
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 10:31pm On Dec 12, 2016
Emaprince:
it means 'mad person' in yoruba. More like saying

Airmark na mad man I swear
cheesy grin grin
I haff died grin someone once used this word on me and I thought it actually meant boss or something related grin wink
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Debroslink: 10:31pm On Dec 12, 2016
Ibime:


And some think he is best AM of all time.

We asked why he is so unproductive, they told us he is busy recycling possession.

I dare anyone to show me stats putting Iniesta in the top 20 possession hoggers.

And some thinks by shooting screamers from 30 yards makes one productive.

Show us Lampard's assists in all European finals he's played in his career.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 10:33pm On Dec 12, 2016
Debroslink:


And some thinks by shooting screamers from 30 yards makes one productive.

Show us his assists in all European finals he's played in his career.

Go and bring Iniestas boss Dani Alves to come and compare assists with Lampard, let Lampard whip his a*s.

Do you have anything to show me that Iniesta is in the top 20 possession hoggers since he is so unproductive and uncreative?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by AdisaOwala: 10:37pm On Dec 12, 2016
Chai - Ibime dey Vex for Iniesta oh..
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by elrony(m): 10:39pm On Dec 12, 2016
Ibime:


And some think he is best AM of all time.

We asked why he is so unproductive as an AM, they told us he is busy recycling possession.

I dare anyone to show me stats putting Iniesta in the top 20 possession hoggers.

There are two big frauds in Barca. One is being exposed at Man City as we speak. Iniesta will never have that chance to be exposed but no one can show me that he does anything better than Santi Cazorla.

grin grin grin
Up Barka fans will not like this!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by elrony(m): 10:40pm On Dec 12, 2016
Debroslink:


I hope Hazard is reading this comment. cool

Yes , same as Iniesta grin

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