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Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by davinchecodes(m): 11:32pm On Jan 09, 2017
babseg:

Science can neither proof or disproof the existence of GOD.
Can you prove a myth?
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:32pm On Jan 09, 2017
babseg:


Anyone that believes in the big bang theory is delusional

Why do you say so ?
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:36pm On Jan 09, 2017
davinchecodes:

Can you prove a myth?

Atheism is a belief that started 2,500 years ago . Ancient atheists made claims that have been disproven by science . Atheism is a human conception born out of ignorance , rebellion , hedonism . Atheism is false and deceptive .

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Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by davinchecodes(m): 11:38pm On Jan 09, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


All Time , Energy , Matter and Space came into existence in the big bang . So whatever caused the universe to exist since it had a finite past must be beginningless, changeless, immaterial, timeless, spaceless and enormously powerful .

So we have a universe which can be seen as an effect , and we have an uncaused creator who brought the universe into existence .
The thing about being a scientifically literate
atheist is that it doesn't mean you claim to
have all the answers to any question ever
posed. Do I know why the Big Bang
happened? No. I don't even know if such an
event needs a "why". We do, however, have
a speculative scientific account of the early
universe ( Very Early Universe Chronology)
yet we fail to speculate on any scientific
grounds that a God was present and shaping
the cosmos to His whim.
Theists don't bother to identify the source of
their God, usually saying "He doesn't need a
source" because "He always existed". So
why do they find such a hard time accepting
it when I say it? The universe doesn't need
a source beyond the Big Bang. Whether or
not such a source exists, it's not required for
the Big Bang to be the most scientifically
compatible theory to date about the actual
origins of our universe as we know it.
I don't understand why theists bother
offering the challenge of "so where did the
origin of your universe come from?" when
they know they can't actually answer the
question themselves.

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Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by babseg(m): 11:39pm On Jan 09, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


Why do you say so ?

How can you create something from nothing?
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by babseg(m): 11:42pm On Jan 09, 2017
davinchecodes:

Can you prove a myth?

Is God a myth?
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:43pm On Jan 09, 2017
babseg:


How can you create something from nothing?

Well of course its impossible that something comes from absolute nothingness , its illogical and foolish - worse than magic in fact. We as theists say that God - a self existent being - brought the universe into being . That is , God is something that has always existed and caused the universe ,a physical being to exist .

So what they see as nothing because of its non physical immaterial nature is actually God . You dig ?
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by davinchecodes(m): 11:45pm On Jan 09, 2017
babseg:

Is God a myth?
Of course
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:45pm On Jan 09, 2017
davinchecodes:
The universe doesn't need
a source beyond the Big Bang. Whether or
not such a source exists, it's not required for
the Big Bang to be the most scientifically
compatible theory to date about the actual
origins of our universe as we know it.
I don't understand why theists bother
offering the challenge of "so where did the
origin of your universe come from?" when
they know they can't actually answer the
question themselves.

It is extremely foolish to say that something came from absolute nothingness .grin That is worse than magic . In fact , its a fairy tale for kids . Kids are mature enough to repudiate such horrendously illogical concept ; toddlers , babies can buy that crap

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Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by babseg(m): 11:46pm On Jan 09, 2017
davinchecodes:

Of course

Oya prove it.

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Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by davinchecodes(m): 11:59pm On Jan 09, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


It is extremely foolish to say that something came from absolute nothingness .grin That is worse than magic . In fact , its a fairy tale for kids . Kids are mature enough to repudiate such horrendously illogical concept ; toddlers , babies can buy that crap
And you said god came from nothingness.
grin grin grin grin
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by davinchecodes(m): 12:01am On Jan 10, 2017
babseg:


Oya prove it.
Does a myth need any prove? shocked undecided undecided
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:01am On Jan 10, 2017
davinchecodes:

And you said god came from nothingness.
grin grin grin grin

I never said God came from nothingness , I said God has always been . God has no beginning or end cool
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:04am On Jan 10, 2017
davinchecodes:

Does a myth need any prove? shocked undecided undecided

You claimed that God is a myth , then prove it .

God is a myth because He is a myth is called circular reasoning - its a logical fallacy .
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by babseg(m): 12:13am On Jan 10, 2017
davinchecodes:

Does a myth need any prove? shocked undecided undecided

You just shot yourself in the foot because you said God is myth.

Which means you can't prove or disproof the existence of GOD. God is still the Almighty
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by davinchecodes(m): 12:16am On Jan 10, 2017
babseg:


You just shot yourself in the foot because you said God is myth.

Which means you can't prove or disproof the existence of GOD. God is still the Almighty
The flying spaghetti monster is real because you can't dis-prove it's existance.
How bout that?

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Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by davinchecodes(m): 12:20am On Jan 10, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


You claimed that God is a myth , then prove it .

God is a myth because He is a myth is called circular reasoning - its a logical fallacy .
Can you prove that the flying spaghetti monster is real?
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by davinchecodes(m): 12:21am On Jan 10, 2017
babseg:


How can you create something from nothing?

And god created the earth from nothing? shocked
cheesy grin grin grin grin
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by davinchecodes(m): 12:23am On Jan 10, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:



https://www.quora.com/How-do-atheists-think-the-universe-and-human-body-came-to-be#!n=30

You are regurgitating answers from Quora , what existed before the Big Bang ?

Go read 'A universe from Nothing' by Lawrence Krauss.
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:24am On Jan 10, 2017
davinchecodes:

Can you prove that the flying spaghetti monster is real?

Its obvious you are programmed to give inappropriate responses to questions that challenge your beliefs .

I don't know about any flying monster and I never said any was real undecided

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Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:26am On Jan 10, 2017
davinchecodes:



A singularity inside a black hole in a parallel universe exploded and caused the big bang, which brought an infinite amount of hydrogen atoms, dark matter and dark energy into existence and created the space-time fabric of the cosmos. Gravity caused billions of hydrogen atoms to clump together and over time the centers of these clumps became hot enough to fuse the hydrogen atoms to form helium, and tada, your first stars were born. As time progressed, some of these stars exploded and created additional elements including nitrogen, carbon, oxygen and sulfur, otherwise known as the bulk elements which most organisms on our planet comprise of plus sodium, magnesium, potassium, calcium, chlorine, and phosphorus. As the atoms of these clumped together (again through the forces of gravity), it allowed entities other than stars to form, i.e. planets, comets, asteroids and other forms of matter.

Five billion years ago, through this very same process, in the outer-mid bracket of our galaxy, our Sun formed. The leftover debris created our planets, and it still might be creating another one as we speak (I do think that one day the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter will clump together another rocky planet, but then again, what do I know?). Earth formed, it cooled, another planet hit us, created the moon. You should check out how close the moon was to us billions of years ago, it covered a lot more of the night sky! Anyways (sorry I get ahead of myself sometimes because this stuff amazes the shit out of me), as the moon reached a certain distance, the Earth's rotation and orbit stabilized. Due to its distance from its parent star the Sun, hydrogen and oxygen atoms mixed together and formed water, and the water was allowed to flow in the state of a liquid, and that my curious friend allowed life to form, develop and thrive. Some say the water came from a comet, but if you want to know the truth about that, you're gonna have to ask another question.

Single cell, stationary organisms developed at the bottom of the oceans, and through time, became multi-celled and had the ability to move. Eventually through generations of natural selection (that is a component of Evolution, if you do not believe in that you need to ask yet another question up in here homie), they became more complex and became capable of surviving outside of their aqua-environment, chilled out on land for for a few billion years while developing into millions of different species and finally around a few million years ago, one branch of those species evolved into early primates. Your 'human body form' is attributed to, well, you know, those damn apes.

Then, this is important, the apes, through some divine intervention figured out that all of the above is bullshit, created Adam and Eve, and told Eve not to eat an apple. Afterwards the told Adam that the stick goes in the hole and a few thousand years later, you are reading this on your computer.

grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin


https://www.quora.com/How-do-atheists-think-the-universe-and-human-body-came-to-be#!n=30

You are regurgitating answers from Quora , what existed before the Big Bang ?
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by babseg(m): 12:28am On Jan 10, 2017
davinchecodes:


And god created the earth from nothing? shocked
cheesy grin grin grin grin

Olodo God was already in existence before the world which means something was already there.

And let me tell you why I don't believe in the big bang and this is my argument. Let's see if you are smart enough. Well it will easier if you know number line and if not ask Google.

Let me know if you fully understand the number line . It's my own theory and I call it babseg theory to debunk the big bang theory tongue

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Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:34am On Jan 10, 2017
davinchecodes:


Go read 'A universe from Nothing' by Lawrence Krauss.

Have you read the book ?
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by 4kings: 1:19am On Jan 10, 2017
babseg:


Olodo God was already in existence before the world which something was already there.

And let me tell you why I don't believe in the big bang and this is my argument. Let's see if you are smart enough. Well it will easier if you know number line and if not ask Google.

Let me know if you fully understand the number line . It's my own theory and I call it babseg theory to debunk the big bang theory tongue

Can you share more light on this theory
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by AlPeter: 1:43am On Jan 10, 2017
DoctorAlien:


The Cosmological Argument precludes a causeless universe. As such, its Cause must exist.

And science has proven that the universe began.

This argument from time is my own invention, anyway. I just brought it up here to be criticized.
time is a component of the Universe. Time exist because of the Universe not the other way round
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by felixomor: 1:44am On Jan 10, 2017
AlPeter:
time is a component of the Universe. Time exist because of the Universe not the other way round

No time, no universe too

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Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by AlPeter: 2:18am On Jan 10, 2017
felixomor:


No time, no universe too
Yes, don't want to write an epistle but it can be argued that the universe and time are one and the same.
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by felixomor: 2:20am On Jan 10, 2017
AlPeter:
Yes, don't want to write an epistle but it can be argued that the universe and time are one and the same.

Of course.
Universe is time, space and matter
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by Richirich713: 8:36am On Jan 10, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


I never said God came from nothingness , I said God has always been . God has no beginning or end cool


The usual strawman grin
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by DoctorAlien(m): 8:53am On Jan 10, 2017
AlPeter:
time is a component of the Universe. Time exist because of the Universe not the other way round

What is time?
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by babseg(m): 9:17am On Jan 10, 2017
AlPeter:
time is a component of the Universe. Time exist because of the Universe not the other way round

That's the mistake with the big bang theory in which I don't buy into.

Time has been in existence before the universe. The time you are only talking about is the time the universe was created. Have you asked yourself this question that HOW LONG WAS IT BEFORE THE BIG BANG
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:35am On Jan 10, 2017
Richirich713:


The usual strawman grin

That's just the only way they can rebut whatever tenable argument being brought forward : misrepresent it , then refute it .

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