[quote author=KingEbukaNaija post=52798393][/quote] what's with all the memes today

KingEbukaNaija:


For randomperson and lennycool

At least jonbellion doesn't reply when you expose his unreasonable thinking

Lol

The pic below is the atheist's universe in a nutshell.

KingEbukaNaija:


Some atheists are getting back to their senses , when will you get back to your senses

Do you ever have a mind of your own, an opinion of your own?

Have you used your own thinking, and not memes, books (religious), internet findings and what people tell you.

When the quest for making meaning about life and our time here seems to be an ego contest, intellectual debate and thirst for dopamine to make yourself feel good, the outcome is endless debates with copied quotes in different threads.

Check within you for the Truth,

What you seek is seeking you.

It is in you. You are IT.

jonbellion:
what's with all the memes today

Sometimes pictures can do the talking

Sibe007:


Do you ever have a mind of your own, an opinion of your own?

Have you used your own thinking, and not memes, books (religious), internet findings and what people tell you.

When the quest for making meaning about life and our time here seems to be an ego contest, intellectual debate and thirst for dopamine to make yourself feel good, the outcome is endless debates with copied quotes in different threads.

Check within you for the Truth,

What you seek is seeking you.

It is in you. You are IT.

Oh please we are talking science here and you are appealing to emotions .

@emboldened text

Speaking of the brain : do you know that greater levels of atheism resulted when the posterior medial frontal cortex which is responsible for logical thinking and reasoning was frazzled ? It actually shows that atheism is as a result of impulses which are caused by the activities in the low road . Same happens when one is distressed or bored or is overwhelmed by stress . When the body is stressed , the brain secretes cortisol to prepare it for crises , plus neropinephrine and at high levels these stress hormones can interfere with the smooth operation of thoughts and reasoning .This then enhances the function of the amygdala and debilitates the prefrontal areas . That means the high road (pre frontal areas ) which is quite slow but accurate , wary and observant will work at a much slower rate - eliciting irrational and illogical thoughts or impulsive decisions .

Little wonder atheists are not good at logical thinking , its all emotions .

1. A universe coming from utter nothingness (Idiotic)
2. The universe creating itself : X creates X (logical absurdity)
3. Infinite universes just to explain why our universe is fine tuned for life
4. Infinite regress of causes which is another impossibility
5. Appreciation of Artificial Intelligence as intelligent design ;repudiation of super complex life and universe as intelligent design

There are so many other illogical reasons atheists give to explain away God .

According to John Lennox , a highly respected professor of Mathematics in Oxford University

Lennycool:

Really?
Infinite knowledge?
Must you first possess infinite knowledge to not believe in Zeus or Odin or fairies?
Your memes are as illogical as you are.
Now shoo, I have more pressing matters to attend to.

You must be omniscient to say with certitude there is no such thing as enormously powerful being who created the universe and everything in it . So does this being exist , yes or no ?

If no ,how did you realize this ?

KingEbukaNaija:


Some atheists are getting back to their senses , when will you get back to your senses

And u say others repeat refuted arguments... U mentioned four atheists in the meme but a lot more Christians are becoming atheists, especially in the developed world.... U just keep mentioning anecdotes without providing any statistical evidence and when someone provides them on your behalf u just disappear into thin air

randomperson:

And u say others repeat refuted arguments... U mentioned four atheists in the meme but a lot more Christians are becoming atheists, especially in the developed world....

Lol . This is imagination , this is reality : http://www.livescience.com/50370-worlds-religious-population-will-grow.html

KingEbukasBlog:


You must be omniscient to say with certitude there is no such thing as enormously powerful being who created the universe and everything in it . So does this being exist , yes or no ?

If no ,how did you realize this ?

And I say again that if that's the case. You must also be omniscient to believe with certainty that Zeus does not exist and neither does Odin or fairies.
If you're not omniscient then how can you believe with certainty that Zeus is not really and neither is Odin.
Your asinine arguments can only work on someone new to debating with ignorant apologetics that spout every garbage they read on explaininggenesis.com

KingEbukasBlog:


Lol . This is imagination , this is reality : http://www.livescience.com/50370-worlds-religious-population-will-grow.html

Trying to lie again. Not on my watch.
The irreligious will grow in America and most of Europe(basically all developing countries).
Christianity will have little growth and Islam will rise to equate it.

Lennycool:

Trying to lie again. Not on my watch.
The irreligious will grow in America and most of Europe(basically all developing countries).
Christianity will have little growth and Islam will rise to equate it.

He was talking of the atheists and I was putting him straight

According to the projection , Christianity alone is expected to reach 3 billion ( addition of 800 million ) and Islam is expected to match it with its adherents at 3 billion not to talk of other religions like Judaism and the rest that believe in the existence of gods .

Atheists themselves with no religion will experience little or no growth because its low retention rate .

KingEbukasBlog:


Lol . This is imagination , this is reality : http://www.livescience.com/50370-worlds-religious-population-will-grow.html

Nice try... Funny the link u posted doesn't consider the demographics of developed countries. Religion is growing because the religious countries are underdeveloped hence they have very high birth rates i.e. they give birth like chickens. The actual amount of converts for religion is small. That's the same rationale behind Islam being the fastest growing religion in the world but check the countries with the highest standards of living, they generally have significant percentage of atheists and irreligious people.
This is an except from the link u pasted:
"For instance, a good chunk of the growth in Christianity and Islam is expected to happen in sub-Saharan Africa, where birth rates are high. Fertility rates varied by religion, according to Pew, with Muslims having the highest fertility rate, of 3.1 children per woman; Christians coming in second, with 2.7 kids per woman; Hindus and Jews with average fertility rates of 2.4 and 2.3, respectively; and Buddhists having one of the lowest fertility rates, at 1.6."
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/1565108

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/04/160422-atheism-agnostic-secular-nones-rising-religion/
Actually, the fact that the developed countries are the one leaning towards atheism is an argument in favor of atheism

Today's religiously unaffiliated population, by contrast, is heavily concentrated in places with low fertility and aging populations, such as Europe, North America, China and Japan," according to a statement by Pew.
KingEbukasblog ^^^ read that too

KingEbukasblog the link u posted doesn't help your argument in any way... Were u thinking am not going to read it? See again...
Changing one's religious affiliation will also affect these numbers, with Christianity forecast to have the biggest exodus, losing 106 million believers by 2050 while gaining just 40 million. Most of those leaving Christian religions will choose not to be affiliated with a particular religion, Pew predicts. About 3 million people are expected to become Muslims, while 3 million Buddhists and 300,000 Jews are forecast to switch out of those religions, the report found.

randomperson:
KingEbukasblog the link u posted doesn't help your argument in any way... Were u thinking am not going to read it? See again...
Changing one's religious affiliation will also affect these numbers, with Christianity forecast to have the biggest exodus, losing 106 million believers by 2050 while gaining just 40 million. Most of those leaving Christian religions will choose not to be affiliated with a particular religion, Pew predicts. About 3 million people are expected to become Muslims, while 3 million Buddhists and 300,000 Jews are forecast to switch out of those religions, the report found.

Christians are currently 2.2 billion ; then by 2050 , Christians will be at 3 billion - that's 800 million addition . Losing 106 million believers is nothing compared to the total increase . And those leaving Christianity will most likely be deists (irreligious ) not atheists .

KingEbukasBlog:


Christians are currently 2.2 billion ; then by 2050 , Christians will be at 3 billion - that's 800 million addition . Losing 106 million believers is nothing compared to the total increase . And those leaving Christianity will most likely be deists (irreligious ) not atheists .

... U didn't reply to my first comment. And yes an 800 million addition purely facilitated by an unhealthy birthrate is no achievement. In fact, it's a pity that only 40 million converts will be made while 106 million will leave the religion. So when it comes to actual conversion rates, Christianity will actually have a deficit.
This is the kind of news that will have made me sad some months ago but thanks to nairaland, am just mildly pleased

And maybe many of them will be deists, which I doubt but I got no problem with deism. Deism has never made people drop 10%of their income for people richer than they are

KingEbukasblog ... Where art thou

randomperson:
KingEbukasblog ... Where art thou

Wetin ?

Losing most percentage of the 106 million adherents to deism isn't a big deal , but gaining 800 million is fantastic ! And since atheism has a low retention rate those lost to atheism will revert to Christianity

KingEbukasBlog:


Wetin ?

Losing most percentage of the 106 million adherents to deism isn't a big deal , but gaining 800 million is fantastic ! And since atheism has a low retention rate those lost to atheism will revert to Christianity

Hahahaha... Over a 100 million people formerly on the way to heaven now going to hell fire is not a big deal?? This your own style of Christianity is funny too ...
And where is the scientific evidence that they will revert to Christianity? Your feelings?
And please the 800 million u get is because u people give birth like chickens. That only adds to the theory that without indoctrination, Christianity is dead

randomperson:

Hahahaha... Over a 100 million people formerly on the way to heaven now going to hell fire is not a big deal?? This your own style of Christianity is funny too ...

And please the 800 million u get is because u people give birth like chickens. That only adds to the theory that without indoctrination, Christianity is dead

Christianity is dead with 3 billion adherents in the next 34 years ? Are you thinking at all

And where is the scientific evidence that they will revert to Christianity? Your feelings?

Atheism has low retention rate that's why atheists don't remain atheists for too long

https://www.reddit.com/r/Catholicism/comments/w9wff/did_you_know_that_atheists_have_the_lowest/
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/viewnews.php?id=230119

KingEbukasBlog:


Oh please we are talking science here and you are appealing to emotions .

@emboldened text

Speaking of the brain : do you know that greater levels of atheism resulted when the posterior medial frontal cortex which is responsible for logical thinking and reasoning was frazzled ? It actually shows that atheism is as a result of impulses which are caused by the activities in the low road . Same happens when one is distressed or bored or is overwhelmed by stress . When the body is stressed , the brain secretes cortisol to prepare it for crises , plus neropinephrine and at high levels these stress hormones can interfere with the smooth operation of thoughts and reasoning .This then enhances the function of the amygdala and debilitates the prefrontal areas . That means the high road (pre frontal areas ) which is quite slow but accurate , wary and observant will work at a much slower rate - eliciting irrational and illogical thoughts or impulsive decisions .

Little wonder atheists are not good at logical thinking , its all emotions .

1. A universe coming from utter nothingness (Idiotic)
2. The universe creating itself : X creates X (logical absurdity)
3. Infinite universes just to explain why our universe is fine tuned for life
4. Infinite regress of causes which is another impossibility
5. Appreciation of Artificial Intelligence as intelligent design ;repudiation of super complex life and universe as intelligent design

There are so many other illogical reasons atheists give to explain away God .

According to John Lennox , a highly respected professor of Mathematics in Oxford University

You seriously think a child that is born in a society and is not told anything about any god or any religion, asin, none of all these ideas handed down.

You really think the child will just say, out of. O where, that they believe in god

Will god appear to the child and say I exist?

None of that would happen, and a human that is not fed such ideas would not naturally just start believing.

All you are debating about, you were told.

Be a Man, be the God you so crave to externalise and worship, be you.

Sorry you were raised and fed all these, man up and think for yourself.

Sibe007:


You seriously think a child that is born in a society and is not told anything about any god or any religion, asin, none of all these ideas handed down.

You really think the child will just say, out of. O where, that they believe in god

Will god appear to the child and say I exist?

None of that would happen, and a human that is not fed such ideas would not naturally just start believing.

All you are debating about, you were told.

Be a Man, be the God you so crave to externalise and worship, be you.

Sorry you were raised and fed all these, man up and think for yourself.

Ever heard of a posteriori knowledge ? That's what the deists do . You can deduce God exists by personal observation and studying nature (science ) .

If Diagoras of Melos and Charvaka school of philosophy never propagated atheism , you probably wouldn't have been one .

KingEbukasBlog:


Ever heard of a posteriori knowledge ? That's what the deists do . You can deduce God exists by personal observation and studying nature (science ) .

If Diagoras of Melos and Charvaka school of philosophy never propagated atheism , you probably wouldn't have been one .

I lean more towards Pantheism.

I can't deduce a Bible god created all things. And its quite very illogical of anyone to sincerely deduce that the same one written about in the Bible that calls himself the God of the Jews is the same one that is the source of all things.

I don't even argue whether God exists or not

I can only be sure there is a Source of all things, and that source is what I am. I am that.

Emancipate yourself from the mental slavery and perpetual bondage of feeling the need to defend 'God'.

Stop fighting the light stirring up inside you, follow it rather and find peace.

Cheers

Sibe007:


I lean more towards Pantheism.

You do realize that pantheists thought the universe was eternal that's why they deified it ( called it God ) but scientific evidence has confuted this position . How can the universe that had a beginning be called "God"

KingEbukasBlog:


You do realize that pantheists thought the universe was eternal that's why they deified it ( called it God ) but scientific evidence has confuted this position . How can the universe that had a beginning be called "God"

Lol, this is not about appellations bro.

You see why these debates are pointless. you even keep saying what groups of people say and generalising their positions to represent everyone.

I don't know what you even mean by God.

I believe in a Source of all things, and It is ME, it is YOU, it is ALL (Universe et al there have been, is, and would be)

But if you want to be stuck in debates, about who is more right, or intellectually loaded with different positions of loads of debaters and spew them at every instance when you feel your inner truth is shaken, well suit yourself.

One day you will stop chasing and getting your highs off shadows and embrace the light.

Some day...you will beat that cognitive dissonance, and let go of all these informations you are using to keep yourself trapped in your mental cage

Sibe007:


Lol, this is not about appellations bro.

You see why these debates are pointless. you even keep saying what groups of people say and generalising their positions to represent everyone.

I don't know what you even mean by God.

I believe in a Source of all things, and It is ME, it is YOU, it is ALL (Universe et al there have been, is, and would be)

But if you want to be stuck in debates, about who is more right, or intellectually loaded with different positions of loads of debaters and spew them at every instance when you feel your inner truth is shaken, well suit yourself.

One day you will stop chasing and getting your highs off shadows and embrace the light.

Some day...you will beat that cognitive dissonance, and let go of all these informations you are using to keep yourself trapped in your mental cage

Hmmmm
Which type of light?

felixomor:


Hmmmm
Which type of light?

The light is not what can be described, It cannot be named
but it is inside of You, and in All things.

The light in You yearns (is seeking) for the Light outside.

It seeks to be One.

Jesus said certain things that points to this....

Sibe007:


The light is not what can be described, It cannot be named
but it is inside of You, and in All things.

The light in You yearns (is seeking) for the Light outside.

It seeks to be One.

Jesus said certain things that points to this....

U know Jesus?

felixomor:


U know Jesus?

Lol, of course yes

A very enlightened teacher

When you come into the knowledge of the Truth that sets you free, you will make better sense of most of the things Jesus said.

Sibe007:


Lol, of course yes

A very enlightened teacher

When you come into the knowledge of the Truth that sets you free, you will make better sense of most of the things Jesus said.

Now here is a snippet of Jesus teaching:

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Cheers