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Can There Be Prosperity Without The Tithe? - John Avanzini / ‘Sam Adeyemi And The Tithe’ by Deji Yesufu / Paul Enenche: Gospel Truth Of The Tithe Revealed (2) (3) (4)

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Greedy Pastors And The Tithe Scam by jideflash(m): 11:37am On Jan 17, 2017
Greedy Pastors and the scam of tithes. If only you know how the money donated to churches are completely spent. Can any church confidently open their financial books publicly or atleast to their church members, let's know why we keep donating to them instead of the people who really need the help. Many people will never see reason with this, because they have been completely brainwashed by manipulative religious leaders and scare of a phantom wrath. 80% of Christianity in Nigeria is Just business. Religion is not Spirituality. If we are so religious in Nigeria, how come corruption elope the whole Nation (from the lowest citizens to the highest Govt positions). How come there is stagnation in our development. How come the poor keep increasing. Christian mothers paying for Special centres for their lads. Church assets that are larger than some national banks. Pastors celebrating lavish parties, mansions and cars while their members sow their last kobo to them in faith.
JIDE Flash - 17/01/2017
IG: @jide_flash

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Re: Greedy Pastors And The Tithe Scam by felixomor: 11:52am On Jan 17, 2017
jideflash:
Greedy Pastors and the scam of tithes. If only you know how the money donated to churches are completely spent. Can any church confidently open their financial books publicly or atleast to their church members, let's know why we keep donating to them instead of the people who really need the help. Many people will never see reason with this, because they have been completely brainwashed by manipulative religious leaders and scare of a phantom wrath. 80% of Christianity in Nigeria is Just business. Religion is not Spirituality. If we are so religious in Nigeria, how come corruption elope the whole Nation (from the lowest citizens to the highest Govt positions). How come there is stagnation in our development. How come the poor keep increasing. Christian mothers paying for Special centres for their lads. Church assets that are larger than some national banks. Pastors celebrating lavish parties, mansions and cars while their members sow their last kobo to them in faith.
JIDE Flash - 17/01/2017
IG: @jide_flash

Has anybody contributing the money wrote a letter of complaint to you?

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Re: Greedy Pastors And The Tithe Scam by Chiedu4Trump: 12:10pm On Jan 17, 2017
We can see the tithes flying around as Jets

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Re: Greedy Pastors And The Tithe Scam by annunaki2(m): 12:11pm On Jan 17, 2017
felixomor:


Has anybody contributing the money wrote a letter of complaint to you?

Yes pastors ought to be held accountable.
Re: Greedy Pastors And The Tithe Scam by felixomor: 12:12pm On Jan 17, 2017
annunaki2:


Yes pastors ought to be held accountable.

Accountable to who?
The op?

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Re: Greedy Pastors And The Tithe Scam by annunaki2(m): 12:28pm On Jan 17, 2017
felixomor:


Accountable to who?
The op?

Accountable to those contributing the money.
Re: Greedy Pastors And The Tithe Scam by felixomor: 12:55pm On Jan 17, 2017
annunaki2:


Accountable to those contributing the money.

No sorry.

Besides, how many churches have u gone internally to see if they dont give account?
U think they dont have people and families on payroll?

Handling money always looks easy from the outside.

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Re: Greedy Pastors And The Tithe Scam by jideflash(m): 12:12am On Jan 18, 2017
People will always ignore the fact, that Pastors are also Human beings as you. So they are not perfect. So if you know they are not perfect, why cant you hold them responsible for their actions, utterances and financial management as our leaders (shouldnt they show good example of transparency). If all Christians in Nigeria today decide to donate 50% of their yearly regular church donations to social causes like charities, poverty alleviation programmes, health subsidy to the poor, education to the slums etc, the Nation in total will see an immediate Positive change, will enormous ripple effect, instead of concentrating all the funds to one Church's account.

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Re: Greedy Pastors And The Tithe Scam by petra1(m): 5:13am On Jan 18, 2017
jideflash:
Greedy Pastors and the scam of tithes. If only you know how the money donated to churches are completely spent. Can any church confidently open their financial books publicly or atleast to their church members, let's know why we keep donating to them instead of the people who really need the help. Many people will never see reason with this, because they have been completely brainwashed by manipulative religious leaders and scare of a phantom wrath. 80% of Christianity in Nigeria is Just business. Religion is not Spirituality. If we are so religious in Nigeria, how come corruption elope the whole Nation (from the lowest citizens to the highest Govt positions). How come there is stagnation in our development. How come the poor keep increasing. Christian mothers paying for Special centres for their lads. Church assets that are larger than some national banks. Pastors celebrating lavish parties, mansions and cars while their members sow their last kobo to them in faith.
JIDE Flash - 17/01/2017
IG: @jide_flash


You're not correct sir. Firstly church money belong to the ministry and not the man. Most pastors except some general overseers have their jobs and businesses . Find out from winners ,Cec , redeemed etc. The pastors are serving voluntarily. Except if such a one has need to go into full time ministry if the responsibility becomes too big to handle as a lay pastor . Even as at that the church money is not his own. He is put on an allowance like every other staff in the church . A bank manager is not the owner of the bank money he only oversee . Same goes for pastors . There is financial structure in every church . You don't dump the money into pastor pocket . Volunteers from church are involved counting and taking records and it's sent to the bank, The pastor only sees the book . And he's not the only signatory . In some churches he is not even a singnatory at all. One of the considerations in sending a man to pastor a branch most tithes is that he has a job. Most times he spend his money to run the church . Until the church is able to take care of her bill ,yet he still gives tithes and offering like everyone else.

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Re: Greedy Pastors And The Tithe Scam by Boss13: 6:11am On Jan 18, 2017
petra1:



You're not correct sir. Firstly church money belong to the ministry and not the man. Most pastors except some general overseers have their jobs and businesses . Find out from winners ,Cec , redeemed etc. The pastors are serving voluntarily. Except if such a one has need to go into full time ministry if the responsibility becomes too big to handle as a lay pastor . Even as at that the church money is not his own. He is put on an allowance like every other staff in the church . A bank manager is not the owner of the bank money he only oversee . Same goes for pastors . There is financial structure in every church . You don't dump the money into pastor pocket . Volunteers from church are involved counting and taking records and it's sent to the bank, The pastor only sees the book . And he's not the only signatory . In some churches he is not even a singnatory at all. One of the considerations in sending a man to pastor a branch most tithes is that he has a job. Most times he spend his money to run the church . Until the church is able to take care of her bill ,yet he still gives tithes and offering like everyone else.



Your perspective is coming from a local church. The churches you mentioned all have G.O who do not work for anybody else, rather want their branch pastors to work so that they can eat their money too.
Re: Greedy Pastors And The Tithe Scam by Topgainer: 9:38am On Jan 18, 2017
petra1:

You're not correct sir. Firstly church money belong to the ministry and not the man. Most pastors except some general overseers have their jobs and businesses . Find out from winners ,Cec , redeemed etc. The pastors are serving voluntarily.
What is ministry?
A suitable jargon that gives a privately owned establishment 'it belongs to everybody outlook' for easy extortion of the gullible. Tell yourself the truth once and shame the devil most Pentecostal ministries belong to the Man (founder) and his family. He alone dictates what he does with the revenue and profit generated, the volunteer or employed accountants is there to take orders as per signatory to the bank accounts.
Some say they have Boards. Are they being fair to the business meaning of boards? The CEO i.e. Pentecostal Bishop makes unilateral decisions while the foot soldier (assistant pastors) mope around in fear and trembling before their lords and employers.
Any worker or volunteer can be sacked for a mistake (omission or commission) but the founder can't sack himself for even greater mistakes.
So, who now is the Ministry?

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Re: Greedy Pastors And The Tithe Scam by jideflash(m): 10:12am On Jan 18, 2017
Please note what this Pastor Aike in the Facebook comment had to say. He clearly personalise his church ownership. talking about me reaping where i didnt sow, like i demanded for the church money.

Re: Greedy Pastors And The Tithe Scam by petra1(m): 1:58pm On Jan 18, 2017
Topgainer:

What is ministry?
A suitable jargon that gives a privately owned establishment

You can't be asking a question and be giving the answer? I don't know if you're a christian but The Bible should define ministry for your mind.

Jesus had ministry Paul had ministry likewise others. It has to do with Gods dispensation commuted to you.

Colossians 4:17
17 And say to Archippus, Take heed to the ministry which thou hast received in the Lord, that thou fulfil it.


The definition you gave is the carnal way the world see the church
Re: Greedy Pastors And The Tithe Scam by Topgainer: 2:48pm On Jan 18, 2017
petra1:


You can't be asking a question and be giving the answer? I don't know if you're a christian but The Bible should define ministry for your mind.
Jesus had ministry Paul had ministry likewise others. It has to do with Gods dispensation commuted to you.
Colossians 4:17
17 And say to Archippus, Take heed to the ministry which thou hast received in the Lord, that thou fulfil it.

The definition you gave is the carnal way the world see the church
Who among your Pentecostal lords possess a ministry that resembles the ministry of Jesus and that of Paul?
The early Church and Ministry of the Apostles is a Fellowship for all that is why you don't hear things like Paul Jnr or Bishop Peter Jnr taking over from Papa Paul or Peter Snr.
My description of Ministry pertaining to most Pentecostal Bishops and Church Founders is the most honest out there.
"A suitable jargon that gives a privately owned establishment 'it belongs to everybody outlook' for easy extortion of the gullible".

My dear when you grow up you will understand that the Place you thought belonged to everybody who laboured and toiled for it to become an empire actually belongs to Papa, Mama, Papa Jnr and secret "keeping" associates.

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Re: Greedy Pastors And The Tithe Scam by petra1(m): 4:36pm On Jan 18, 2017
Topgainer:

Who among your Pentecostal lords possess a ministry that resembles the ministry of Jesus and that of Paul?
The early Church and Ministry of the Apostles is a Fellowship for all that is why you don't hear things like Paul Jnr or Bishop Peter Jnr taking over from Papa Paul or Peter Snr.

Is that an issue ? Is succession your concern ? That's not the yard stick to determine the call upon a ministry . It glory and and honor And success if a minister is able to raise his household in the ministry . Were Aaron's sons not prepared for ministry ? Jesus younger BROTHER JAMES took over the church in Jerusalem. PHILIP had his daughters raised in ministry

Acts 21:9
9 And the same man had four daughters, virgins, which did prophesy.


Pricilla and a quilla were couples and they pastored together.

Romans 16:3-5
3 Greet Priscilla and Aquila my helpers in Christ Jesus . . . . Likewise greet the church that is in their house.


If a man has nobody in his household interested in ministry it's his personal failing . It's not a yardstick to determine the ordination of God upon a ministry . God will always use the next available person .

My dear when you grow up you will understand that the Place you thought belonged to everybody who laboured and toiled for it to become an empire actually belongs to Papa, Mama, Papa Jnr and secret "keeping" associates.

Pastor Adeboye was not the founder of Redeemed . He took over from another man. And I'm not aware. He plans to hand over to his son. So your insult upon the sacredness of ministry is carnal
Re: Greedy Pastors And The Tithe Scam by ibtz: 4:48pm On Jan 18, 2017
Why cant u giv ur tithes directly to d poor and needy instead of pastors.
Re: Greedy Pastors And The Tithe Scam by petra1(m): 5:07pm On Jan 18, 2017
Boss13:


Your perspective is coming from a local church. The churches you mentioned all have G.O who do not work for anybody else, rather want their branch pastors to work so that they can eat their money too.

But the attacks here were directed to all pastors . Even pastors who have jobs as bankers ,oil workers ,business men and they serve in ministry voluntarily.
Re: Greedy Pastors And The Tithe Scam by Topgainer: 7:25pm On Jan 18, 2017
petra1:

Is that an issue ? Is succession your concern ? That's not the yard stick to determine the call upon a ministry.
If a man has nobody in his household interested in ministry it's his personal failing . It's not a yardstick to determine the ordination upon a ministry . God will always use the next available person
Why is it that you lots who are hell bent on worshipping men of gods will always invent a scripture or force an existing one to the defense of a stinkingly corrupt church business.
I said most
Satan messengers also parades some glory and ordination.
Succession shouldn't have lacings of greed and battles if actually it is a ministry patterned like that of Christ's Apostles.
The ministry of the Apostle is not a family or political party affair.
The ministry of the Apostles of old is not the same with the CEO ministries of your pentecostal lords today.
Aaron was not a Christian.
James the younger brother of Jesus does not own any ministry. Priscilla and Husband do not own any ministry, they were only members of the same ministry.
Philip and daughters were also members of the ministry. All these people were brothers and sisters, they shared all things in common.
The Ants colony relationship of today's Satan ordained ministry was not there. There were no Kings and Queens, foot soldiers and slave workers relationship.
Next time you draw comparisons don't equate the highly disciplined and sacred ministry of the selfless Apostles to that of your self-serving, despicably mannered, shameless and godless pentecostal lords. Day in day out most of them are being exposed for what they are and who they are. Most annoying to me is that most of them make no pretence about the hopelessly false messages they circulate.
The word of the Lord to the stinking ministries of today in Rev Chapters 1 through 3 is very apt.
Revelation 3:1 ...These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead...Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:.. I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy unclothedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

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Re: Greedy Pastors And The Tithe Scam by petra1(m): 9:18pm On Jan 18, 2017
Topgainer:

Why is it that you lots who are hell bent on worshipping men of gods

It's rather sad that people like you don't have reverence for God And his ministers .

2 Peter 2:10
10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.


will always invent a scripture or force an existing one to the defense of a stinkingly corrupt church business.

2 Timothy 3:16
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:


I said most Satan messengers also parades some glory and ordination

so ministers of God are now Satan messangers ? That's blasphemy.

Succession shouldn't have lacings of greed and battles if actually it is a ministry patterned like that of Christ's Apostles.

What battle ? Did Adeboye have battle to head redeemed leadership . Did Idahosa wife battle to take over leadership . Why must you see from negative perspective?

The ministry of the Apostle is not a family or political party affair.

James took lead of of Jerusalem church . He was the blood brother of Jesus . What do you say to that? . Don't be a critic .

The ministry of the Apostles of old is not the same with the CEO ministries of your pentecostal lords today.

What's the difference

Aaron was not a Christian.

It's same principle . Ministry is ministry . Elijah was prophet , John was prophet , agabus was prophet .

James the younger brother of Jesus does not own any ministry. Priscilla and Husband do not own any ministry, they were only members of the same ministry.

Everyone has ministry . You have ministry . It's your place of service. It's not about name and incoporation . And as long as you're busy criticizing others , you can't fulfill yours .

Philip and daughters were also members of the ministry.

What ministry?

All these people were brothers and sisters, they shared all things in common. The Ants colony relationship of today's Satan ordained ministry was not there. There were no Kings and Queens, foot soldiers and slave workers relationship.

As much as we all have our part to play That doesn't take away leadership .

Next time you draw comparisons don't equate the highly disciplined and sacred ministry of the selfless Apostles to that of your self-serving, despicably mannered, shameless and godless pentecostal lords

And what church do you attend which doesn't have leadership? I will be glad to know how scriptural your structure is. Or you worship in your room only .


Romans 14:12-13
12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God. 13 Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.
Re: Greedy Pastors And The Tithe Scam by petra1(m): 9:20pm On Jan 18, 2017
Boss13:


Your perspective is coming from a local church. The churches you mentioned all have G.O who do not work for anybody else, rather want their branch pastors to work so that they can eat their money too.

How much plate of food can they eat. Ministry is about building lives not opulence
Re: Greedy Pastors And The Tithe Scam by jideflash(m): 10:30pm On Jan 18, 2017
What will you describe owning private jets, riding bulletproof cars with heavenly armed security men. i dont believe all pastor are corrupt offcourse, But a large sum are compromised. What i dont understand is why huge funds from donations dont reflect in the church members. Now most churches are more concerned about establishing Universities, which generate so much money that arent taxed. Alot of their members come for healing, why cant Hospitals be built instead, which is more practical to his members needs.



petra1:


How much plate of food can they eat. Ministry is about building lives not opulence
Re: Greedy Pastors And The Tithe Scam by petra1(m): 11:28pm On Jan 18, 2017
jideflash:
What will you describe owning private jets.

It's just a vehicle. Offerings can't buy jet . If that's what you're thinking . Don't generalize . Deal with specific cases. If a man of God gets a jet as gift . It's nobody's problem . Idahosa rejected jet gift from Copeland . It's a choice .

riding bulletproof cars with heavenly armed security men

Security is just common sense for those who may feel threatened. Jesus took security precautions in the face if premature death threat. Paul did too. But taking unnecessary security measure in the name of effizy is carnality. Still it's not my place to point at individuals because I'm not in their mind to see the motive. Let's leave such unto God

. i dont believe all pastor are corrupt offcourse But a large sum are compromised

What is corruption.It's not our place to judge. Every man should face his calling.


What i dont understand is why huge funds from donations dont reflect in the church members

Are they supposed to share the offerings? Your look is your choice some millionaires wear jeans . Doesn't mean they are poor

Now most churches are more concerned about establishing Universities, which generate so much money that arent taxed.

It's not true . Any business owned by church or pastor us taxed . School na school . Except the free will church donations

Alot of their members come for healing, why cant Hospitals be built instead, which is more practical to his members needs.

That will be contradictory. How many hospitals did Jesus or the prophets build?

James 5:14-15
14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: 15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.
Re: Greedy Pastors And The Tithe Scam by Topgainer: 12:28am On Jan 19, 2017
petra1:

It's rather sad that people like you don't have reverence for God And his ministers .
so ministers of God are now Satan messangers ? That's blasphemy.
James took lead of of Jerusalem church . He was the blood brother of Jesus . What do you say to that? . Don't be a critic .
What's the difference
It's same principle . Ministry is ministry . Elijah was prophet , John was prophet , agabus was prophet .
Everyone has ministry . You have ministry . It's your place of service. It's not about name and incoporation . And as long as you're busy criticizing others , you can't fulfill yours
What ministry?
And what church do you attend which doesn't have leadership? I will be glad to know how scriptural your structure is. Or you worship in your room only .
You are also a critic for criticizing my positions.
You are also a 'judge' for judging my position and let me emphasize that the meaning of judgement in reference to the scripture you quoted is not the same with what you are alluding to. I judge nobody because I know Him who is the Judge, who is able to kill both the body and soul.
Satanic Ministers threaten and curse in the name of their gods, they are quick to accuse of blasphemy. Blasphemy against what? Ministers of Satan are not ministers of God. They are ministers of their belly
1 Timothy 6:10 ...which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows...flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.
Ministry is not Ministry, Elijah and the Apostles are not of the same Ministry. There is nothing similar in principle and methods about them.
The bolded reminds me of a statement by one of your lords that only those who bring tithes are qualified for blessings. Now, that is not a Christian teaching. Jesus, his Apostles and early Church didn't teach such.

Listen good, I don't own any ministry and I am not interested in owning any or fulfilling any Satanic ministry, the type that is littered all over the place. Why are your lords afraid of criticism? What are they hiding? Paul criticized the hypocrisy of Peter regarding association with gentiles, Peter took correction and that is Christianity not Judiasm or other forms of religious cults.
You are so neck deep in forcing a scripture to fit your lusts. Most likely the result of assimilating the self-serving messages of gods of men. I realized it is one of the dirty tricks emanating from false teachers, pastors and prophets. 'Catch' them in adultery they will call you aside and quote "touch not my anointed and do my prophet no harm, allow god to judge, who art thou to judge another man's servant, how dare you criticize god's anointed, it is not your place to judge"
The psychology of the game is to keep the slaves/workers mopping around mute and silent in the face of Satanic leadership and ministrations. I will continue to expose the unfruitful works of darkness wherever I find them.

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Re: Greedy Pastors And The Tithe Scam by petra1(m): 1:02am On Jan 19, 2017
Topgainer:

You are also a critic for criticizing my positions.
You are also a 'judge' for judging my position

Nothing is wrong in judging a position or criticize a position. What you do wrong is judging people . We may judge doctrines or action but it must be by the word .not personal biase or vendetta. We must judge righteous judgement. We may judge prophescy but by the word only. Insulting ministry offices and calling them unthinkable names when you don't even understand their perspective and principle of doing things is not righteous judgement .

and let me emphasize that the meaning of judgement in reference to the scripture you quoted is not the same with what you are alluding to. I judge nobody because I know Him who is the Judge, who is able to kill both the body and soul.
Satanic Ministers threaten and curse in the name of their gods, they are quick to accuse of blasphemy. Blasphemy against what? Ministers of Satan are not ministers of God. They are ministers of their belly

So who are these people you're talking about . What is their wrong . Or you just hate anyone called "minster"

. . . follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.

I will be glad to see more of these fruits in your posts .

2 Timothy 2:24
24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,


And an appeal . It's an insult to christ when you call them my lord . Kindly address your choice of words. Like the statement below

. . . . reminds me of a statement by one of your lords that only those who bring tithes are qualified for blessings

Listen good, I don't own any ministry and I am not interested in owning any or fulfilling any Satanic ministry

It's an issue of knowledge . Ministry is Service .

Romans 12:7 (ASV)
7 or ministry, let us give ourselves to our ministry; or he that teacheth, to his teaching;


Paul criticized the hypocrisy of Peter regarding association with gentiles, Peter took correction and that is Christianity not Judiasm or other forms of religious cults.

You can only rebukein your place of authority . Paul was in charge there . But not brethren rebuking a superior. It's a language of the rebels especially sheep without shepherds.
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Re: Greedy Pastors And The Tithe Scam by Topgainer: 1:33am On Jan 19, 2017
petra1:

Nothing is wrong in judging a position or criticize a position. What you do wrong is judging people . We may judge doctrines or action but it must be by the word .not personal biase or vendetta. We must judge righteous judgement. We may judge prophescy but by the word only. Insulting ministry offices and calling them unthinkable names when you don't even understand their perspective and principle of doing things is not righteous judgement .
So who are these people you're talking about . What is their wrong . Or you just hate anyone called "minster"
I will be glad to see more of these fruits in your posts .
2 Timothy 2:24
24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,

And an appeal . It's an insult to christ when you call them my lord . Kindly address your choice of words. Like the statement below
It's an issue of knowledge . Ministry is Service .
Romans 12:7 (ASV)
7 or ministry, let us give ourselves to our ministry; or he that teacheth, to his teaching;

You can only rebukein your place of authority . Paul was in charge there . But not brethren rebuking a superior. It's a language of the rebels especially sheep without shepherds.
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I have answered you in my previous posts no need repeating myself. Keep shifting the goal posts.
Judging position, critize position, judging people, critisizing inferior and superior, judging action. How do you know one false prophet with his imposter Christ (Rev 6:2) and his conquered slaves is superior to a little child of say 6 years who loves Jesus and the uncomplicated teachings of Christ? Swallowing the doctrines of men is dangerous to your spirit, soul and body. There are many men out there who teach as doctrines the commandment of men. It is end time Beware. My sincere prayer for you is that your eyes are opened to see the happenings and fulfilment of the Bible concerning false teachers poured out into the world at this time.
My resolve to expose the unfruitful works of darkness wherever I find them is firm.
Re: Greedy Pastors And The Tithe Scam by Nobody: 4:37am On Jan 19, 2017
jideflash:
Please note what this Pastor Aike in the Facebook comment had to say. He clearly personalise his church ownership. talking about me reaping where i didnt sow, like i demanded for the church money.

Are you a member of his church or you are just an attention seeker?
Re: Greedy Pastors And The Tithe Scam by Nobody: 4:40am On Jan 19, 2017
Topgainer:

I have answered you in my previous posts no need repeating myself. Keep shifting the goal posts.
Judging position, critize position, judging people, critisizing inferior and superior, judging action. How do you know one false prophet with his imposter Christ (Rev 6:2) and his conquered slaves is superior to a little child of say 6 years who loves Jesus and the uncomplicated teachings of Christ? Swallowing the doctrines of men is dangerous to your spirit, soul and body. There are many men out there who teach as doctrines the commandment of men. It is end time Beware. My sincere prayer for you is that your eyes are opened to see the happenings and fulfilment of the Bible concerning false teachers poured out into the world at this time.
My resolve to expose the unfruitful works of darkness wherever I find them is firm.

Have you removed the log in your own eyes?
Re: Greedy Pastors And The Tithe Scam by Nobody: 4:43am On Jan 19, 2017
jideflash:
Greedy Pastors and the scam of tithes. If only you know how the money donated to churches are completely spent. Can any church confidently open their financial books publicly or atleast to their church members, let's know why we keep donating to them instead of the people who really need the help. Many people will never see reason with this, because they have been completely brainwashed by manipulative religious leaders and scare of a phantom wrath. 80% of Christianity in Nigeria is Just business. Religion is not Spirituality. If we are so religious in Nigeria, how come corruption elope the whole Nation (from the lowest citizens to the highest Govt positions). How come there is stagnation in our development. How come the poor keep increasing. Christian mothers paying for Special centres for their lads. Church assets that are larger than some national banks. Pastors celebrating lavish parties, mansions and cars while their members sow their last kobo to them in faith
JIDE Flash - 17/01/2017
IG: @jide_flash


Obviously you are not involved in any administrative position in your church. The funniest thing is that people like you who are too reserved to get involved in working for God are the first to criticize online.


Am I to assume that you blame Christianity for corruption and stagnation in the country or what are you implying?
Re: Greedy Pastors And The Tithe Scam by petra1(m): 8:46am On Jan 19, 2017
Topgainer:

Judging position, critize position, judging people, critisizing inferior and superior, judging action. How do you know one false prophet with his imposter Christ (Rev 6:2) and his conquered slaves is superior to a little child of say 6 years who loves Jesus and the uncomplicated teachings of Christ? Swallowing the doctrines of men is dangerous to your spirit, soul and body. There are many men out there who teach as doctrines the commandment of men.

Deal with specific. It's a sin to attack christ body . Because you also stand the chance of leading innocent souls astray . Because your attavk is on christ body not a specific doctrine . Even in dealing with doctrine ,what's the assurance that your doctrine is the right one and the other man wrong. You see, You have to deal with specific issues and present the word of God sided by side in presentations to prove your point . There are false ministers for real . But it's wrong to throw general attack on the body .

It is end time Beware. My sincere prayer for you is that your eyes are opened to see the happenings and fulfilment of the Bible concerning false teachers poured out into the world at this time.

Ad what if you're wrong in your campaign. You should submit your ideology or doctrine to be scrutinized as well. The fact that you don't like "A" doesn't mean he's wrong. Firstly get to know the principle behind whatever you judge . Or ask questions . Then present your understanding of bible position. Let the viewer judge. The truth speak for itself .

My resolve to expose the unfruitful works of darkness wherever I find them is firm.

Lastly , the mission to EXPOSE false ones should be done in humility. It's christ who purges his church . He didn't give us such assignments, we Weill only end up hurting the body we think we are protecting especially in a public forum. Look are the scripture below.

Matthew 13:24-30 (ASV)
24 Another parable set he before them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man that sowed good seed in his field: 25 but while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares also among the wheat, and went away. 26 But when the blade sprang up and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. 27 And the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst thou not sow good seed in thy field? whence then hath it tares? 28 And he said unto them, An enemy hath done this. And the servants say unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? 29 But he saith, Nay; lest haply while ye gather up the tares, ye root up the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of the harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather up first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them; but gather the wheat into my barn
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Christ has his appointed time to deal with some issues . And if must must do the work for him . Make sure you're right . We only have the right to discipline and rebuke in the area where we have authority .i.e people under your jurisdiction
Re: Greedy Pastors And The Tithe Scam by shammah1(m): 9:05pm On Jan 20, 2017
Agreed
jideflash:
Greedy Pastors and the scam of tithes. If only you know how the money donated to churches are completely spent. Can any church confidently open their financial books publicly or atleast to their church members, let's know why we keep donating to them instead of the people who really need the help. Many people will never see reason with this, because they have been completely brainwashed by manipulative religious leaders and scare of a phantom wrath. 80% of Christianity in Nigeria is Just business. Religion is not Spirituality. If we are so religious in Nigeria, how come corruption elope the whole Nation (from the lowest citizens to the highest Govt positions). How come there is stagnation in our development. How come the poor keep increasing. Christian mothers paying for Special centres for their lads. Church assets that are larger than some national banks. Pastors celebrating lavish parties, mansions and cars while their members sow their last kobo to them in faith.
JIDE Flash - 17/01/2017
IG: @jide_flash
Re: Greedy Pastors And The Tithe Scam by essentialone(m): 5:47am On Jul 04, 2022
jideflash:
Greedy Pastors and the scam of tithes. If only you know how the money donated to churches are completely spent. Can any church confidently open their financial books publicly or atleast to their church members, let's know why we keep donating to them instead of the people who really need the help. Many people will never see reason with this, because they have been completely brainwashed by manipulative religious leaders and scare of a phantom wrath. 80% of Christianity in Nigeria is Just business. Religion is not Spirituality. If we are so religious in Nigeria, how come corruption elope the whole Nation (from the lowest citizens to the highest Govt positions). How come there is stagnation in our development. How come the poor keep increasing. Christian mothers paying for Special centres for their lads. Church assets that are larger than some national banks. Pastors celebrating lavish parties, mansions and cars while their members sow their last kobo to them in faith.
JIDE Flash - 17/01/2017
IG: @jide_flash

All Nigerians Pastors are scammers and deceivers. Know this, and know peace.

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