Icon4s:


That is just the answer to all these calls for Onyekuru, Odey, Idowu, Otigba, Adi, Kayode and co.

So this Odey is 18? And somebody tells me Amuneke threw his U20 Camp open.

joseph1013:
Don't hate a great team. Greatest comeback in football history by the greatest club on earth. Força Barça!!!

joseph1013:
Don't hate a great team. Greatest comeback in football history by the greatest club on earth. Força Barça!!!

CODMOK:


I'm not really sure of the Onyekachi Okonkwo u are referring to but if it was the one that played for Enyimba b4 lacing his boots for Orlando Pirates of South Africa, then I want to inform u that he played for Nigeria btw 2006 - 2008 raking in 20 appearances in the process. Well, it appears that his tym with the Super Eagles was so uneventful that you didn't know he ever put on the Green jersey of our dear country. Mutiu Adegoke also got his chance if my memory serves me right though not lucky sha with just 3 apps.
For me, I support what Gernot Rohr nd Yusuf are doing as long as Eagles are doing well. Though a fan of d Npfl, these home based pros need to be more consistent. For example, Godwin Obaje who was blazing last season is way down on d goal chart.The tales ofMfon Udoh,Jude Aneke etc is also saddening to say d least. I'm sure d likes of Aguero et al didn't get to d top dat way. Let these boys grow up frm being a "one season wonder " nd not b distracted by moves to obscure leagues abroad.
I'm waiting for CHAN to assess them well but once again, consistency is d watch word guys
Up Super Eagles!!!

tbaba1234:



1. I am not advocating for non league players for the Super Eagles, It is the same criticism, I have over the quality of the league. A player who plays at a low level for a long time, does not improve not matter how talented they are. It is not about lack of talent. The best players do not spend 5 years in the Nigerian League.

2. In the last few years, we have experimented with a local league quota for the Super Eagles? What is the value added from these players? We can probably pick just one, Sunday MBA after several years of giving home based players national team quota. Where is MBA playing these days?

3. I am all for good young local league players like Nwobodo but let us get the best, play CHAN and pick the ones with potential. Kunle Odunlami and Ejike Uzoenyi flattered to deceive at CHAN but could not cut it at national team level.

4. Makinwa was never a regular for Nigeria and neither would Ezeji or Osunwa have been. Seyi Olofinjana played a different role to onyekachi. I think, at the time Seyi merited his call-up. Okonkwo would not have made the team in his position.

goldfish80:


First of all, the experiment with homebased players won us our 3rd nations cup. People don't appreciate that Keshi built that Afcon team more than a year before they won in South Africa.
A trip down the memory lane: Before keshi came on board, we had failed to qualify for the Afcon in Gabon 2012. He basically went back to basics when the Afcon qualifiers went on the way and guys like Ejike Uzoenyi, Obabona, Ruben Gabriel, Osunwa, Egwuekwe , Sunday Mba etc etc played the qualifiers and I can recall Ejike and Ruben Gabriel won about 3 man of the match awards on the way.
Olishe wanted to tow the same line, but he wanted to eat his cake and have it by monitoring homebased players from Belgium. That cost him his job in the end.

At the nations cup finals, we had a defence made up of Obabona and Oshaniwa while Mba was in midfield. Years gone by, those 3 slots would have been filled by just anyone who played abroad and as usual,we would have walked away with the bronze medal at best.

By the way Ejike Uzoenyi did not flatter to deceive at the Chan. He was in fact the tournament best player. You have to respect that.

Makinwa paired Obafemi Martins upfront numerous times. Those days when I looked at Makinwa, I just knew that God indeed worked in mysterious ways. His technique was not up to scratch but he was playing in the seria A. For the life of me, Makinwa wouldn't get into any team if there was an open camp and Victor Ezeji and Kelechi Osunwa showed up. Our national team selectors really dropped a lot of clangers down the years with this home based /foreign based reverse bias. That attitude really cost us a few Afcons.

tbaba1234:


We did not win the nations cup because of a home based quota biko... Only two players Oboabana and Mba were homebased... Oshaniwa played a few minutes in the final (when elderson got hurt) and did not even inspire confidence for those few minutes.. The clips are still available.
There were foreign based players who were part of that success. After that, we failed to qualify for the nations cup twice in a row with the same home-based quota. It was a failed experiment, .. Onobi, Egwuekes, Gbolahan Salami, Agbim, Kwambe, Reuben Gabriel, Gambo Muhammad, etc .. Our national team became a joke... We were not even selecting the best home based. We missed back to back Afcon as a result.. First time in our history.

It is distressing to even think of the kind of players, we have started in recent years. Makinwa had only 18 caps for Nigeria... He was by no means a regular.. It was when Rohr came in, that credibility came into the team list for games.

Ejike Uzeonyi flattered to deceive.. He did very well at CHAN level but was not up to scratch at National team level... He won himself a world cup spot, off his CHAN performances but really could not replicate it at a higher level.

tglobal:
Oshaniwa wasn't home based. He was playing in Israel. Only homebased players were Obiora Kanu, Oboabona, Mba, Reuben Gabriel, Agbim and Ejike.
Only Oboabona and Mba were regulars, while Ejike played just a few minutes against Mali. I wouldn't say we won because we took home based players to AFCON. While not taking anything away from Mba, it is hard to think we wouldnt have beaten Ivory Coast and Burkina Faso without his goals

goldfish80:

If we didn't win the nations cup because of local quota, how come when we went to the nations cup with all exclusive foreign players we never got past the semi finals?

If Oshaniwa didn't inspire confidence, how come the team managed to keep a clean sheet?  a defence which had 2 homebased and 2 foreign based,  should  should have been imbalanced and capitulated if the other 2 guys weren't good enough. 


Most of those guys you mentioned weren't the reason why we didn't qualify for the nations cup. You even mentioned Salami who was our top scorer in the qualifiers. 

I wonder how  you could have forgotten so soon that it was  endless politics, Keshi contract shenanigans, court cases and threats of Fifa ban cost us the Afcon ticket?  Even when we bought a life line in the finals game against South Africa, it was a personal error of Omeruo which cost us the game. Gambo mohamed didn't play the qualifiers. 

Agbim was never in goal in any of the qualifiers. He was the 3rd keeper while Ejide was the 2nd keeper. 

Ejike Uzoenyi bought his own world cup ticket after the magical performance in Chan. Nigerians wanted to see him at the world cup. In the friendlies prior to the world cup, he performed really well. Nobody handed him anything on a platter. I don't think he registered up to 10 mins in Brazil.
It's unfair the manner you throw people under the bus because they are homebased. This kind of supremacy mindset gave birth to slave trade. 

tbaba1234:


1. How many minutes did Oshaniwa play in the final? 10 mins or less
2. He was not homebased.

The only homebased defender was Oboabana...

We continued the home based thing after the nations cup and missed the next two..

Ejike was neither impressive in the friendlies nor the world cup

goldfish80:

Oshaniwa actually left Nigeria 3 months before the Afcon and he has been in the fringes of the team in the qualifiers. He was subbed-in within early in the second half when Burkina were pressing for an equaliser. Frankly, I see him as home based at that tourney.
Ejike was not the reason we didn't beat France or Argentina in the 2 games we lost.
Ejike made just a fee minutes appearance in the Bosnia game when Babatunde got injured from Onazi's shot on goal in the second half. Which of the friendlies was he really bad?

These same homebased players helped qualify us for the world cup and nations

You seem not to recall the reasons why we didn't make the 2 nations cup. Just cool down and read my previous post to refresh your memory.
cup.

Personally, I believe equal opportunities should be given to every Nigerian, home based or foreign based to make the super eagles. When people draw a line between the two, that's when I have a problem.

tbaba1234:


We did not qualify for the nations cup because we did not present our best players.. Individual errors are part of the game. They will always happen. We were not strong enough to beat Tanzania away with Onobi in the middle. We could not beat anyone away from home. The quality of our displays were poor. Gambo Muhammad and Egwukwe were at the confederations cup.. Poor, poor players..

I agree with the last part.. [b]The truth is If we had a Nigerian playing at the level/standard of the Nigerian league abroad, he will not even be in contention for a super eagles call-up.[/b]But because, it is home, sentiments come in. Rohr has invited home-based players before and the only outfield player that impressed him was Jamiu Alimi. I am ok with that. But we should not flood the team with home -based because of sentiments. It was disastrous before.

TheGoodJoe:


Are you saying Amunike did not run an open under 20 camp? When it was stated on the news. Announced repeatedly and many turned up.

Keep in mind coaches have different views on the game. A coach might like Odey and another might not. It is as simple as that.

Did Odey say he went to the U20 camp and was denied entry?

terzurum5:
Exclusive – Rohr Calls Up Olarenwaju Kayode As Osimhen Replacement Ahead Senegal & Burkina Faso Tie



Owngoalnigeria.com can exclusively report that coach of the Super Eagles Gernot Rohr has handed a maiden call up to Austria Wien’s forward Olarenwaju Kayode for the upcoming friendly games against Senegal and Burkina Faso in London later in the month.


Kayode will replace Victor Osimhen who has withdrawn from the game after undergoing surgery to cure the injury that has stopped him from making his debut for German side Wolfsburg.


” I am very happy that finally the handlers of the Super Eagles have counted me worthy enough for an invitation”, Kayode told Owngoalnigeria.com.


” I want to thank all those who believed in me and I will do everything possible to give this oppurtunity my very best”, he concluded.


The forward who has done credibly well in both domestic and European competitions this season precisely the Europa League, has played for Nigeria at U-17 and 20 level, but this is his first call up to the senior national team.

*Daniel Martins

owngoalnigeria.com/2017/03/08/exclusive-rohr-calls-up-olarenwaju-kayode-as-osimhen-replacement-ahead-senegal-burkina-faso-tie/

tbaba1234:


We did not qualify for the nations cup because we did not present our best players.. Individual errors are part of the game. They will always happen. We were not strong enough to beat Tanzania away with Onobi in the middle. We could not beat anyone away from home. The quality of our displays were poor. Gambo Muhammad and Egwukwe were at the confederations cup.. Poor, poor players..

I agree with the last part.. The truth is If we had a Nigerian playing at the level/standard of the Nigerian league abroad, he will not even be in contention for a super eagles call-up.But because, it is home, sentiments come in. Rohr has invited home-based players before and the only outfield player that impressed him was Jamiu Alimi. I am ok with that. But we should not flood the team with home -based because of sentiments. It was disastrous before.

TheGoodJoe:


Maybe you will say because Odey did not make Amunike's U17, Amunike did not hold an open camp during the U17.

goldfish80:

Nigeria XI: Carl Ikeme; Kingsley Madu, Kenneth Omeruo, William Troost-Ekong, Solomon Kwambe; Nwankwo Obiora, Haruna Lukman, Moses Simon, Ahmed Musa (c), Izunna Uzochukwu; Emmanuel Emenike.

That was the starting line-up against Tanzania away
If you look closely, only the right back Kwambe was home based. It will be totally unreasonable to single him out for blame for the goalless draw. Believing that homebased players caused us 2 Afcon tickets is a huge myth.

Yes Gambo Mohamed and Egwuekwe were at the Confederations cup, but I don't think their inclusion caused our losses to Uruguay and Spain.
Am not defending Gambo but I think people were being harsh on him. Just about any player can miss a sitter like he did. As a matter of fact, I've seen Kanu, Yakubu, Osaze, Emenike, Uche and Martins miss sitters in the green and white.
Was it not Ujah, a bundesliga striker who missed all sort of chances against Tahiti, at a time it became an embarrassment. Ideye also in the same game missed and missed and missed... We should have beat those Tahitians 12:1 if they managed to convert their chances but Nigerians like you will rather hang Gambo because he's the target, he's homebased after all.

A few pages back, I read and shook my head when you said Odey would not have passed trials at Wolfsburg. Seriously, are you God? How could you have known he won't have a successful trial at Manchester United?
Please stop the prejudice against homebased. Its not a crime they weren't born abroad.

Icon4s:


You know the process of selecting players at U17 is different from that of U20. The U17 is strictly for academy players. And the issue of MRI.
A couple of players were even turned back based on their appearance bc the NFF were trying to cut cost from performing MRI for every d!ck and Harry. I am sure you have heard about how Greg Nwokolo had to hand over the gloves to Dele Alampasu bc the coaches said he would definitely fail the MRI.

It is every club's wish to have their young players in the national youth teams as it is an opportunity to market the players and reap big benefits.
If Amuneke had invited Odey there was no way MFM could have turned it down.

Icon4s:


Who snubbed who?

The then 18years old Ezekiel that was invited to the Flying Eagles camp in 2011 and then he turned it down. He was not ready for the Super Eagles until prio to 2014 WC when Keshi invited him for a friendly. Yes he was not ready to compete for space with wingers like Victor Moses, Chinedu Ogbuke, Obinna Nsofor, Sonne Aluko and Ahmed Musa.

In 2014 for whatsoever reason he went to the middle-east.

Rio, Siasia gave him another opportunity and also us another opportunity to re-assess his readiness for the Super Eagles.

Anthony Ujah, there was no way he could break into the Super Eagles as at that 2011 when he came to limelight.
He was instead invited to the U23 Camp along with Ighalo, Lukman, Oduamadi, Igiebor, Raheem, Oseni and co. He didn't really do so well.

He was left out to develop and got a couple of invitations during Keshi and Oliseh's reign but he didn't really meet our expectations. He was not the type of striker we were looking for.

So wetin come bring chop-chop for this one.

Before u were shouting nepotism. Now ur slogan is fraud and chop-chop. Lets discuss the football and put aside all unfounded insinuations pls.



Anthony Ujah


Personal information


Date of birth:14 October 1990 (age 26)

Place of birth:Ugbokolo, Nigeria

Height:1.83 m (6 ft 0 in)

Playing position
Striker

Club information:
Current team: Liaoning Whowin

Number
37

Senior career*

Years Team Apps (Gls)

2005–2007:Abuja FC

2008–2009:Warri Wolves 22 (13)

2010–2011:Lillestrøm 36 (27)

2011–2013: 1. FSV Mainz 05 12 (2)

2012–2013: → 1. FC Köln (loan) 28 (13)

2013–2015: 1. FC Köln 66 (21)

2015–2016: Werder Bremen 30 (11)

2016– :Liaoning Whowin 15 (5)

National team‡:
2013– Nigeria 7 (0)


* Senior club appearances and goals counted for the domestic league only and correct as of 30 October 2016.
‡ National team caps and goals correct as of 7 December 2015

Imagine 7 appearances for Nigeria and no goal. You dey say na chop-chop coaches cause am.

Icon4s:


It is not an issue of whether the camp was thrown open or not. Amuneke already had a preference for his U17 boys.
600 players invited from where? Academy or NPFL players. How many players from the NPFL were invited for the screening?

Manu called back his players that failed the MRI at U17.Players like: Ifeanyi Mathew, Benerd Bulbwa, Ibrahim Alhassan, Wilfred Ndidi, Abdul Kareem Mustapha. And these guys strengthened the team. Not to also talk of NPFL players that were also involved. Did Amuneke call back any of his players that failed the MRI? Amuneke's U20 were too young and largely lacking in experience.

Watch out as more youngsters 20 years and below emerge from the league. And i'll keep asking why they were not part of Amuneke' U20.

TheGoodJoe:


You have no evidence to support your claim for preference. I have said before a player might flourish in a system and perform poorly in another. So if Amunike could not find players he considered better than those he had, it is in line with his job.

It was an open camp and no invitations were sent out. Youngsters keep emerging in every set. Many players that played for Super Eagles did not pass the Nigerian youth system. So why do you expect differently from Amunike's set.

TheGoodJoe:


You have no evidence to support your claim for preference . I have said before a player might flourish in a system and perform poorly in another. So if Amunike could not find players he considered better than those he had, it is in line with his job.

It was an open camp and no invitations were sent out. Youngsters keep emerging in every set. Many players that played for Super Eagles did not pass the Nigerian youth system. So why do you expect differently from Amunike's set.

Icon4s:


Just like we have no evidence to support our claims of Siasia's preference for 'his boys'.

forgiveness:


Are you saying there was nothing like chop-chop and nepotism ?

You mean Eziekel Imoh was not ready in 2012 to 2014?

Bros, Eziekel was never called when he was doing better than those invited.

2011 was the year he went on trial and was signed. I think his club didn't allow him because he had to settle down. No bi em fault. We saw many players did that ....


Eziekel was snubbed for two good seasons despiye performing well. 2012/2013 and 2013/2014 was the year he scored double digit goals but.......

How many goals did Emmanuel Eminike score after featuring for 37 matches?


How many matches did he play before scoring?

nt

Icon4s:


Can you support this claim with an evidence?

terzurum5:

This is a good one for Kayode. He must make this opportunity count.

His non appearance for the national team is one of the reasons why he hasn't go to EPL.

I see this guy coming with an unquenchable hunger for goals which has been lacking in the national team.

CC: Forgiveness and Orkpekyangega. Hope you guys are not working with Rohr.