Hairyrapunzel:


The fact that any man can can just say something not in the bible and say it is God that said it and we believe hook line and sinker is a justification that we ourselves don't read the bible.

Smoking is not mentioned in the bible it is not sin. Smoking is a lifestyle choice that can lead to addiction and other health and social issues which are bad. Alcohol is as bad as smoking both cause similar issues. Smoking is not a reason for disfellowshipping.
Abortion can be regarded as murder. If you discourage a person from doing abortion saying is murder and the person gives birth to a child that needs blood transfusion and that child dies from refusal this is murder also. Don't justify your killings

God never said abstain from blood transfusion and accept autologous blood transfusion termed bloodless surgeries by you people
Therefore your religion is all a lie.
Y won't Russia say it's extremist

Freksy:

The command to abstain from blood is a far stronger and more encompassing expression than not to eat it.

Paul was telling the gentiles what the Jews already knew not to eat blood of animals. It couldn't have included blood transfusion

Did God mean they could eat blood of animals not use for sacrifice?
Can you support your claim with scriptures?

God was specific about animals for sacrifice or food. The law was for animals as food The lion david killed he didn't pour the blood on the floor. Does that mean he didnt respect the life of the animaI? I thought God loves all animals equally.

Not Eating blood of animals not used for sacrifice is not mentioned in the bible. This is an argument from silence. This argument was not even there

Paul did not say, "abstain from the blood of animals or humans - live or dead." The instruction is simple: "...abstain from blood". Note that abstinence from blood was just one of the 4 things Paul enlisted at Acts 15:29. 1. From things sacrificed to idols 2. From blood 3. From what is strangled and 4. From sexual immorality.

Paul did not say it but the letter said it was letter to the gentiles not letter to the Jews and gentiles. In this case the Jews were practicing all these already and it said do not eat the blood of animals sacrificed or for food



No animal was created in God's image, yet, their blood means life and is precious to God. Only God is the giver of life, and blood means life and thus should be refrained from.

The blood of animals is precious the life of man is precious to hiM so he gave the commandment not to kill man.


Do you think human blood is lesser in value before God than animals' and hence should not be respected and refrained from?
Human life is of most importance to God. Human life is respected and humans are not killed during blood donation to be usent as food or sacrifice but rather used for saving lives in emergencies and for making albumin, factor 8, and 9 ,rhogam, immunoglobulins etc which you people have no problem accepting. Since it is beneficial even to you people then it shouldn't be refrained from.

Blood, be it of animals or humans, live or dead, represents life.

And life of the animal or human is important. What is the use if the person is dead since blood represents life?


David even poured water brought to him by 3 of his 30 headmen, claiming it's their blood and life. He refused to drink the water, but poured it out to God.

It was symbolic. It was water he used there not their real blood. Because the life of the men where important. The men didn't die he was thanking God for their lives lIke a sacrifice to God. David killed a lion but did not pour the blood on the ground so are you saying not all animals are important to God?

He looked beyond the letters of the laws and acted based on the meaning and principles behind the law(s) regarding blood. Read 1 Chronicles 11:15-19 and ponder over it.

It shows you how grateful david was to God that his men didn't die trying to get water for him. At the end of the day the men were alive. They still had life

Would you ask David that God didn't use the word, " don't drink", had you been one of the 3 headmen? Were those men animals killed for sacrifice?
When God said do not kill. so david would have killed his men and used their blood as sacrifice because they brought him water? Interesting. Like I said the men didn't die and brought water for David. David poured water not their actual blood. David was just thanking God for saving his mens life. At the end of the day the men still had life death did not come to them. Blood transfusion is not drinking blood no body is dying from blood donation nobody is being used as sacrifice or food after the procedure. If david was happy that his men were saved and it was ok then I don't think God will have a problem with people whose life has been saved by blood transfusion .

missfrancess:
are you on facebook?

gemale:

As I said b4,if we apply ur reasoning literally & strictly, we shldnt kill animals because dt involves blood. When a woman is in labour, she shldnt be assisted because we r supposed abstain 4rm blood. D baby birthed is also guilty of wteva sin u attach 2 blood transfusion since its mother shed blood on it. If u injure urself & bleed, u r also guilty.

CAPTIVATOR:


Flawed logic @ Bold , The question should have been DO YOU REALLY ABSTAIN FROM AN ORGAN, IF YOU ACCEPT IT TO BE TRANSPLANTED IN YOU ?

Drehilton:

Sir,you've missed the point.
Jehovah values blood...it's precious to him.
No wonder he commanded that animals killed must have its blood poured to the ground...of course it's impossible to entirely drain all the animals blood out,however pouring out the blood means you show respect for the Supreme ruler and giver of life JEHOVAH..leveticus 17:13-16
Abstinence in this regard refer to shun/reject eating blood (Involves cannibalism),refuse whole blood transfusions,or eat unbledded or strangled animals...IT SHOULDN'T BE IN YOUR SYSTEM NO MATTER THE FORM IT MIGHT BE

CAPTIVATOR:


the scripture gives Explicit command against Blood . Abstain from Blood
- Act 15:29 but says no such thing againt Cannibalism . this further showed u don't understand the earlier question asked : what is been Transfused ? Blood
! SOMETHING A CHRISTIAN IS WARNED TO ABSTAIN FROM



Am also abstaining from Alcohol since I didn't Consume it through the mouth, But it was transfused to my Body. logical, isnt it ?

Hairyrapunzel:


First and foremost no doctor will ask you to take alcohol iv. If iv alcohol was used for any treatment a doctor will prescribe it but it isn't use. Alcohol dosent even change effect when given iv or taken orally.

Blood eaten will not and never have thesame effect as blood transfusion. Stop making those your watchtower analysis fool of fallacy so alcohol iv and blood transfusion are now thesame thing

Yes flee or abstain from blood. Don't accept autologous blood transfusion and come and tell me blood transfusion is bad apostle Paul said abstain from blood and Nathan knorr in 1945 said abstain from blood transfusion so it's biblical but we can accept autologous blood transfusion since the name is now bloodless surgery because it is biblical. Or I am a hemophiliac jw I can accept factor 8 and 9 gotten from blood donated by others because the bible said I can break blood down and accept it when it is broken down or I can take albumin gotten from plasma of blood of others or immunoglobulins gotten from blood of other people because is broken down. Bible says we can take small fractions but not take larger fractions of blood because it is a sin apostle Paul said abstain from blood and Nathan knorr thousands of years later ie in 1945 said so.

You people even have fractions of blood you can accept nowadays. Hypocrites

Drehilton:

Either you eat blood by cooking,or you transfuse blood or you eat strangled animals..the point is doing any of that expressly means you have that in your system...you've eaten/taken blood.
All your explanation is based on technicalities,it's watering down a direct command..
For direct command,it's a NO
Yes,there was no direct command with regards to blood fractions.Thus,Not everybody accepts these blood fractions you mentioned based on individual bible trained conscience.
If for example I would have a troubled conscience for taking a platelet,I would rather abstain and refuse than to take the platelet bearing in mind that there's no biblical command to refuse or accept it.

Hairyrapunzel:


The scripture gives Explicit command that the law was meant for just the gentiles.
Abstaining from blood was a command to only the gentiles not all christians at that time. The Jews were also christians

achorladey:

Please according to the Bible. If you indeed believe what it contains, what is the only primary purpose of blood/what is blood meant for, right from the days of Noah down to our day.

Hairyrapunzel:


The scripture gives Explicit command that the law was meant for just the gentiles.
Abstaining from blood was a command to only the gentiles not all christians at that time. The Jews were also christians

Hairyrapunzel:

Blood symbolises life

Hairyrapunzel:


Your Jehovah values blood but not a human beings life how pathetic

Hairyrapunzel:


Blood symbolises life. Why should you take a symbol over the actual thing it represents?. Or rather why would a symbol uphold more importance than what it represents ?

Hairyrapunzel:


Blood symbolises life. Why should you take a symbol over the actual thing it represents?. Or rather why would a symbol uphold more importance than what it represents ?

achorladey:

That is not the answer to my question

Hairyrapunzel:


There is no direct command to abstain from blood transfusion. The command is made to only Gentile how come?

Where is the command to accept autologous blood transfusion?

Hairyrapunzel:


That is my own answer to your question. The summary is that life of all creatures is in their blood. Blood symbolises life. God cannot love blood more than life itself. A symbol can never hold more importance than the actual thing it represents.

You cannot say blood transfusion is bad yet you eagerly accept autologous blood transfusion. Or fractions of blood fRom wordly donors.
My own God doesn't love blood more than any humans life. And my bible never said abstain from blood transfusion. My God never said I should die or let my child die to uphold any mosaic law. If your God says otherwise good for you

achorladey:

Blood transfusion definitely falls under what blood can be used for. RIGHT OR WRONG? If yes, then from God's standpoint, what should blood be used for?

achorladey:

Blood transfusion definitely falls under what blood can be used for. RIGHT OR WRONG? If yes, then from God's standpoint, what should blood be used for?

Drehilton:


ONE ANSWER...
HEB 9:11-14,22.....READ THAT PLEASE.
From the onset,
When blood is mentioned,forgiveness of sins follows.
It started with animal sacrifices under the mosaic law,however these only foreshadowed the ONE SACRIFICE OF JESUS.
EPH1:7-"BY MEANS OF HIM (JESUS CHRIST)WE HAVE THE RELEASE BY RANSOM THROUGH THE BLOOD OF THAT ONE....."
Little wonder why Jehovah values blood.it's very significant

Drehilton:


Why do we treat malaria or typhoid the way it's treated now and not like the 1st century Christians.It's simple,biological and scientific advancement is key..
When that instruction was given,then Israelite even the Jews and gentile never knew that there's fractions of blood.
Jehovah knew,however he choose to explain in terms they would understand.HE SAID BLOOD and not blood fractions.
It would be totally wrong for anyone to conclude or assume that JEHOVAH could have meant BLOOD FRACTIONS and blood as it were.
HE ALONE CAN ANSWER THAT,IT WOULD BE WRONG TO ASSUME WHAT IT IS.Bearing in mind that he #created us,he knows how we are formed but he choose to say"ABSTAIN FROM BLOOD...and not abstain from fractions

achorladey:

Blood transfusion definitely falls under what blood can be used for. RIGHT OR WRONG? If yes, then from God's standpoint, what should blood be used for?

Drehilton:


ONE ANSWER...
HEB 9:11-14,22.....READ THAT PLEASE.
From the onset,
When blood is mentioned,forgiveness of sins follows.
It started with animal sacrifices under the mosaic law,however these only foreshadowed the ONE SACRIFICE OF JESUS.
EPH1:7-"BY MEANS OF HIM (JESUS CHRIST)WE HAVE THE RELEASE BY RANSOM THROUGH THE BLOOD OF THAT ONE....."
Little wonder why Jehovah values blood.it's very significant

Hairyrapunzel:


So your jehovah values blood more than life of a human being so pathetic. Very sadistic of him

Hairyrapunzel:


Flawed logic. Paul told only gentiles to abstain from blood and the Jews were not eating blood of animals sacrificed or for food. Paul would have included the Jews if he meant abstaining from any new thing he included.


Do you really abstain from blood by accepting autologous blood transfusion, factor 9 and 8, albumin, rhogam and immunoglobulins?

I am abstaining from blood if I am being transfused according to acts 21

CAPTIVATOR:



You didnt answer my question, Dont be disorganized . you said does a person accepting a transplant means the person eats the organ , to which I replied : the force in that scripture is " Abstain From " .

So The question should have been DO YOU REALLY ABSTAIN FROM AN ORGAN, IF YOU ACCEPT IT TO BE TRANSPLANTED IN YOU ?

biopat:



People get diseases from organ and tissue transplants too but your organisation is not against both organ and tissue transplants, why?

Arguing that people get diseases from blood transfusion so it should be forbidden is flawed. It is just like saying drugs have side effects so we shouldn't take blood.

Peacefullove:


typical hypocritical Naija Christian, I would be agnostic than follow your practices .

Which God is yours ? now you just know you are serving a sadistic god that would burn u in hellfire for a million years ?

its clearly in the Christian Holy book that you should Refrain from Blood , but y'all would not abstain but accept it into your system . it point to one thing , None of you are true Christians , The policies of Jesus and Paul are just too hard for you people to stick to.

CAPTIVATOR:



You didnt answer my question, Dont be disorganized . you said does a person accepting a transplant means the person eats the organ , to which I replied : the force in that scripture is " Abstain From " .

So The question should have been DO YOU REALLY ABSTAIN FROM AN ORGAN, IF YOU ACCEPT IT TO BE TRANSPLANTED IN YOU ?

Hairyrapunzel:


Your sadistic God will Kill 99.9% of non jws earth's population for your new system to come. Paul is not Jesus and Jesus is not Paul. Jesus never said I should die or let my child die to uphold a mosaic law.
Like you are a true christian. So one delusional human being called Nathan knorr in 1945 made a law that 7 million people adhere to till this day. You know watchtower is the truth because watchtower told you it (watchtower) is the truth

Well this is what happens when cult programming has taking over your reasoning skills your ability to think like a human being. What is the difference between going to hell fire and God killing 99.9% of non jws? I know you can't wait for your so called new system to come so you can wake up in paradise while your governing body members go to heaven after 99.9% of humans non jws have died

When did Paul say if you accept blood transfusion you will die in amergeddon?