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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:01am On Apr 14, 2017
Jayceon:
the producer is a southy
Good to know,
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:07am On Apr 14, 2017
Muafrika2:


Errm

I hear that that happens. Many of their (3 - 6 hour long) movies are shot within 3 days shocked

I still love them though. The end result is totally hilarious grin

Well, they're Africans after all, we gotta give them support. Because at the end of the day, even though the end product may be mediocre, it's still effort & hardwork. You gotta show appreciation to boost the morale. Most I think they're total crap with the overacting etc, but I have watched a few to the end because they weren't bad in terms of acting & the plot.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:16am On Apr 14, 2017
ZarZar:


Well, they're Africans after all, we gotta give them support. Because at the end of the day, even though the end product may be mediocre, it's still effort & hardwork. You gotta show appreciation to boost the morale. Most I think they're total crap with the overacting etc, but I have watched a few to the end because they weren't bad in terms of acting & the plot.

True.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:17am On Apr 14, 2017
Jayceon:
the producer is a southy

Are you talking about the play or the animation? Because I know in the animation, the opening song (Circle of life) was sung by a South African, Lebo M. Yes, South Africa lent their musical talent in the making of Lion King. The soundtrack of the film was recorded in the US, UK & SA.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:08am On Apr 14, 2017
ZarZar:


South African films tend to be multilingual, to accommodate everyone.

But yeah, the film was our pride & joy when it won.

Nollywood needs more than study in film making. The acting is horrible as well. Plus most of their so called movies look & sound like they've been shot with a phone grin
lloooooollll chai, I love how u guys envy everything it makes me laugh olorun. abeg someone tell them which industry is recognized all over d world . nollywood or south africanwood loooolll

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:16am On Apr 14, 2017
uzzyfire:
lloooooollll chai, I love how u guys envy everything it makes me laugh olorun. abeg someone tell them which industry is recognized all over d world . nollywood or south africanwood loooolll

Recognized by whom? In terms of what? I'd think recognition would come in the form of salient awards if your work was up to par undecided The name of your industry alone lacks creativity & is a leech-off, off someone else's creativity. We don't have a name for our industry because the work we produce speaks for itself. Lol, no sane person envies Nigeria. It's all in your head, narcissus grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:30am On Apr 14, 2017
uzzyfire:
lloooooollll chai, I love how u guys envy everything it makes me laugh olorun. abeg someone tell them which industry is recognized all over d world . nollywood or south africanwood loooolll
first of all,what tha hell is "south africanwood"

Second of all,what is it that you have that can trigger jealousy in our hearts?? Don't just type,think logically
You think a country that has been collecting Grammys from the 50s and setting international stages on fire would envy you?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:36am On Apr 14, 2017
Jayceon:
until they can produce quality like LION KING,SARAFINA,MR BONES,JERUSALEM,etc...we are a world class

Even our TV series like Jacob's Cross,High Rollers beat their 200000 million movies they produce annually
baba if I slap ur teeth eeehn, abeg wen did lion king and Mr bones become south African movies . and plsss how can a "Disney movie" be produced by a "southy" looooollll. baba stop deceiving ursef. Disney only came to south Africa to look at lions and hyenas and safari
and Mr bones, they just came to south Africa to act it, finish ode

loooolll Jacobs cross is/was produced by Nigerians and acted by south Africans and some Nigerians . it is a Nigeria/south Africa series

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 9:37am On Apr 14, 2017
uzzyfire:
but all d credit and money still goes to nollywood. ghana does not have an industry, they are all incorporated in nollywood
stop saying thing you don't know of
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Maduawuchukwu(m): 9:48am On Apr 14, 2017
Nowenuse:


I think Kenya can copy from Nigeria.
I thank God for Babangida who relocated Nigeria's capital from Lagos to Abuja and made Lagos a state govt of it's own.
This somehow shifted the migration from Lagos a bit. Abuja of less than 25 years now has about 5 million people in it's metropolitan area. Imagine what it would be in a decade time. Lagos is no longer receiving all the attention. Before Abuja's creation, Lagos was growing uncontrollably (crpitalship it is still exploding, let alone if the capital was still there. Thank God Lagos state govt is meeting up.

Lagos state is the 4th largest economy in Africa after Nigeria, SA and Egypt and it's per capital income is far higher than SA and Egypt. It is going well ahead to meet the likes of China, Russia and Brazil. I hope the whole Nigeria goes along with it.

(Sorry i'm digressing). I was just trying to see how the large slum population of Nairobi can be reduced. It's too much and embarassing. How can 3 million people be living in slums in an urban area (Nairobi) of 6 million? That's half the population? shocked

The other Nigerian States cannot meet up to Lagos unless the Nigerian government build a seaport in the other sea based states or it gives the states the power to build and control their own seaports. Lagos is the way it is for many reasons with the seaport factor being key.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Maduawuchukwu(m): 10:16am On Apr 14, 2017
These folks do not know that Nollywood has undergone a dramatic change. The Nollywood of today is not the same one you watch on Africa Magic. Today's Nollywood films are produced with high budget and are shown in the Cinemas and not on African Magic. That is why you only see unknown Nigerian Actors on African Magic nowadays. When last did you see Ramsey Noah, Omotola, Uche Jombo on Africa Magic.
I think you guys should know something; Nigeria does not have the White man influence that many East Africans and South African countries have. The Whites did not settle in our country and they did not give us any institution of note. So whatever we did we had to start from scratch and learn the basics unlike you guys who built practically on what the whites left for you. So u didn't start from the basics.
We started something like Nollywood from the ground up as we did not have a whiteman's industry to build upon unlike you guys whose industry was built by the Whites.
We started our Fashion industry from the ground up and that is why the Only truly Indigenous African Industry is Nigeria's. We wear our own style and not the whiteman's style and that is why today our style represents African style unlike u guys who adopted the Whiteman's suit as ur basic wears.
Our Music Industry is one of Africa's only true indigenous industries. We have developed our own flows and beats which is even becoming more indigenous with the coming of flavour,Phyno,Simi,Adekunle Gold a co. Whenever I hear SA music like AKA I weep for African heritage as I don't know whether he is talking of an American or South African heritage.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:27am On Apr 14, 2017
uzzyfire:
baba if I slap ur teeth eeehn, abeg wen did lion king and Mr bones become south African movies . and plsss how can a "Disney movie" be produced by a "southy" looooollll. baba stop deceiving ursef. Disney only came to south Africa to look at lions and hyenas and safari
and Mr bones, they just came to south Africa to act it, finish ode

loooolll Jacobs cross is/was produced by Nigerians and acted by south Africans and some Nigerians . it is a Nigeria/south Africa series
Mr Bones

Director:Gray Hofmeyr (South African)
Written by Leon Shuster (South African) and he also stars in the movie with two Americans as guest stars (Faizon Love and David Ramsey) .whether it sits well with you or not I don't care.Mr Bones is purely South African production

I might have exaggerated when I counted Lion King but the others are southy
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:43am On Apr 14, 2017
ZarZar:


Recognized by whom? In terms of what? I'd think recognition would come in the form of salient awards if your work was up to par undecided The name of your industry alone lacks creativity & is a leech-off, off someone else's creativity. We don't have a name for our industry because the work we produce speaks for itself. Lol, no sane person envies Nigeria. It's all in your head, narcissus grin
lol nollywood is 2nd biggest in d world . looooll wat do u mean by "creativity" wat else shud we name it mtcheeewe

no sane person envies Nigeria , yet all u guys have done since d beginning of this thread is bash nigeria and call all our achievement and industries "false" looolll . can u imagine they even stoop so low to say our GDP is false

and ur industry doesn't have name becos u don't have an industry
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:52am On Apr 14, 2017
uzzyfire:
lol nollywood is 2nd biggest in d world . looooll wat do u mean by "creativity" wat else shud we name it mtcheeewe

no sane person envies Nigeria , yet all u guys have done since d beginning of this thread is bash nigeria and call all our achievement and industries "false" looolll . can u imagine they even stoop so low to say our GDP is false

and ur industry doesn't have name becos u don't have an industry

You guys always start the comparisons imo. We're not in the same league by any stretch of imagination, so I'm not sure why you'd think we're envious of you. Envious of what? Your industry may be the 2nd biggest, but us & the world know it's not about quantity, quality is what matters. What should you have called yourselves? Erm IDK, something original perhaps? We all know Nollywood is nothing but a poor man's Hollywood, hence they always choose us over you any day.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:37am On Apr 14, 2017
ZarZar:


You guys always start the comparisons imo. We're not in the same league by any stretch of imagination, so I'm not sure why you'd think we're envious of you. Envious of what? Your industry may be the 2nd biggest, but us & the world know it's not about quantity, quality is what matters. What should you have called yourselves? Erm IDK, something original perhaps? We all know Nollywood is nothing but a poor man's Hollywood, hence they always choose us over you any day.
that's the most interesting part,Hollywood's top dogs have done more collaborations with South Africa and South African actors and the first african movie to with an Oscar is a Southy one yet he claim that Nollywood is more recognized...the irony!!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:39am On Apr 14, 2017
Jayceon:
that's the most interesting part,Hollywood's top dogs have done more collaborations with South Africa and South African actors and the first african movie to with an Oscar is a Southy one yet he claim that Nollywood is more recognized...the irony!!

I had the same thought while typing that. Smh.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 11:54am On Apr 14, 2017
uzzyfire:
but all d credit and money still goes to nollywood. ghana does not have an industry, they are all incorporated in nollywood

Yes, i think we are still somehow together with them.
If not for the stupid colonial divide between we West africans where many of us are french speaking and other English speaking. We would have had a united region and entertainment industry.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 12:18pm On Apr 14, 2017
TayserMahiri:


I think yours is even more embarrassing where 2/3 (two thirds) of the Lagos population lives in slums. Taking the city alone, that is some 10 million people crammed in the steamy lagoons of Lagos. grin grin grin. That is of course in an oil rich NIgeria. And that was back in 2006, and of course now its even worse with the problems you guys have been under for the past decade, probably around 15,000,000 slum dwellers now because the city population grows at 8 % per annum. It was anticipated that by 2015 Lagos would be the third largest city in the world but it has less infrastructure than any of the world’s other largest cities. So, man, stop comparing your filthy city with Brazil, China etc. Its a filthy place.
You may have to visit other cities outside nigeria to see why everyone wonders how the people of Lagos survive.
In fact, its known as the Megacity of Slums. Sometimes I think the nigerian government deliberately hides data from nigerians to fool them of their sad reality.

http://www.irinnews.org/news/2006/09/05/lagos-mega-city-slums

If Lagos is such a slum, can you pls tell me why Nairobi still keeps on topping the list of slums in Africa and worldwide? why not Lagos?
The only slum in Lagos is Makoko (which picture is in that link). Apart from Makoko, we don't have another real slum in Lagos. And Makoko itself has been largely demolished, while the other areas like Agege, Mushin and Ajegunle which are quite close to being slums (but are not slums) have been facing serious infrastructural development and integration. If you want pictures with links can give them to you.

There is no way our govt can hide slums from us because we dont have them. If we had slums like Nairobi, we would have been attracting foreign NGOs and humanitarian aids like Nairobi, but they are not in Lagos.

Pls i dare you to show me the slums in Nigeria, bring out their pictures and let's check their development if they are qualified to be called slums, then we ascertain their population.
In a developing country's Urban area of 21 million people and not even up to 200,000 people live in slums (less than 1% of the population). Pls that is progress!

While in a Nairobi of 6 million, 3 million (50%) live in slums, not just ordinary but world renowned slums!

Slum dwelling is not a Nigerian culture and this is something you must know! Nigerians are quite proud people, instead of us to live in a slum, all in the name of living in Lagos, we rather remain in our villages or go to smaller cities and towns which are everywhere in the country.
For instance, i have never lived in Lagos or Abuja my entire life, i have only visited for few days. I have only lived in Warri, Benin and Jos (mostly my entire life). And these 3 cities i live in have over a million people each. There is so much wealth in these cities and majority of the people are middle class citizens. We have access to almost everything people in Lagos have (apart from entertainment industry). So why should i ever think of going to stay in Lagos?

We have too many clean, calm, cheap, affordable, peaceful and prosperous cities in Nigeria for us to go and be living in slums in Lagos! Nigeria is unlike Kenya where everything in centred in Nairobi and everyone who wants to live in a city in Kenya must go there.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 12:40pm On Apr 14, 2017
TayserMahiri:


I think yours is even more embarrassing where 2/3 (two thirds) of the Lagos population lives in slums. Taking the city alone, that is some 10 million people crammed in the steamy lagoons of Lagos. grin grin grin. That is of course in an oil rich NIgeria. And that was back 2006, and of course now its even worse with the problems you guys have been under for the past decade, probably around 15,000,000 slum dwellers now because the city population grows at 8 % per annum. It was anticipated that by 2015 Lagos would be the third largest city in the world but it has less infrastructure than any of the world’s other largest cities. So, man, stop comparing your filthy city with Brazil, China etc. Its a filthy place.
You may have to visit other cities outside nigeria to see why everyone wonders how the people of Lagos survive.
In fact, its known as the Megacity of Slums. Sometimes I think the nigerian government deliberately hides data from nigerians to fool them of their sad reality.

http://www.irinnews.org/news/2006/09/05/lagos-mega-city-slums

Do you know the millions of people who live in slums in Mumbai and Delhi in India? What about Rio de janeiro in Brazil (the world most renowned slum)? Even Sao Paulo has slums!
It would absolutely be crazy for me to compare Nigeria with developing countries like China. But even a country like Brazil who have been independent for almost 200 years, yet Rio de janeiro has more slum dwellers than Lagos which is two times it's population.

India and Brazil may never get rid of poverty and their slums because in both countries, a large segment of their population is seen and treated as inferior 2nd class citizens. In Brazil, most of the black and mixed race people are highly economically disadvantaged and discriminated while in India, it is the caste system. People of the lowest caste will always live in slums and scheduled villages because it is even forbidden for the people of higher castes to see or come in contact with them. Both countries suffer a form of racism which is somehow supported by their govt and elites.

This is unlike Nigeria where we all see ourselves as equal citizens and development is even. So we dont have people who are condemned to slums and villages their entire lives.

Pls don't embarrass yourself next time, the whole world knows Mumbai and Rio de janeiro for gigantic slums! What about Karachi and Dhaka in Pakistan and Bangladesh? grin and all these countries gained independence before Nigeria.

China and Malaysia are the only large developing nations with large cities without slums together with excellent world class infrastructure.

Go and watch that award winning Indian movie (Slumdog millionaire) and see what a real slum is about. India even has a worldwide award winning movie about their slums in Mumbai (their largest city). (kai, Indian poverty is really worst than African poverty, just that India enjoys political stability which prevents widespread starvation and famine which comes through wars as we see in Africa).

However, if you want to dare me to this statement (i am ready, let the pictures and facts start rolling in)!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 12:56pm On Apr 14, 2017
TayserMahiri:


Please don't compare Lagos with NY. Lagos is a true mess. The best example of disorder in Africa if not the world.

Well, Los Angeles may be cleaner, finer, classier and more exotic than New york with terrible gangsters and drug pushers, but still New york remains the financial capital and power of USA. That is what Lagos is to Africa. The entertainment and financial capital of Africa.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 1:14pm On Apr 14, 2017
TayserMahiri:


Give Abuja ten more years and it will be as bad as Lagos. You guys cannot teach anyone in Africa about matters to do with population and service provision. The kenyan slum upgrade program coupled with the Counties is an excellent solution to the problem. Moving capital is usually in case of an overpopulated/ unplanned capital like Lagos or when it is not central like Dar Es Salaam.

Slum upgrade of since how many years? When we saw that many Nairobi slum dwellers were selling their newly given appartments and going back to the slums?
Were you guys sleeping when your slum population grew up to 3 million, (50% of the city)?
Abuja can never be like Lagos, because our Federal capital territory will never tolerate the creation of slums. You need to google and see for yourself how many aspiring slums and illegal settlements have been demolished in Abuja over the decades.

Nairobi is not a city planned from the scratch! So how different is it from Lagos? While Lagos on the other hand is building more cities on islands from the scratch!

Eko atlantic city, Lagos smart city and Orange island are being planned from the scratch as you can see. While Victoria island, Lagos island, Lekki and Ikoyi were planned from the scratch. So in a short time from now, about 50% of Lagos would be planned from the scratch and that is how more will keep on springing up until the unplanned parts from the scratch are reduced to 1%.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 1:35pm On Apr 14, 2017
uzzyfire:
dude stop hating, its bad for ur health. do u know how dirty new York is it is infested with rats and bugs. people survive just fine bro(I'm surviving just fine) the thing is, if u are coming to Lagos, u have to know how to hustle and bustle if not u will not survive (that's y its GDP is so high) cos people are constantly working 24/7 nobody seeps in Lagos.

Lagos is not d best place to do vacation in Nigeria , u go to places like abuja, calabar, owerri if u want to enjoy ursef.(although Lagos has one of d best nightlife in Africa ) parties are always going on in Lagos


You have said it. Someone like me for instance i cannot go and live permanently in Lagos. The place is too loud and fast. I can only go for visits, entertainment events, parties and exhibitions. Chikena.

The guy thinks New york is all he sees on TV. He doesn't know that new york has dark areas and some terrible suburbs completely overtaken by gangsters and niggas.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 1:42pm On Apr 14, 2017
gallivant:
We were all learning until Nigerians got ignorant. You can't faze Kenya with slums when entire Lagos or Owerri is a slum! Get over yourselves, ask anybody in the world about Naija slum cities.You proudly deceive yourselves. cry

Are you sure you understand English language very well or you were taught in swahili all your life (hence do not understand English words well)?
Almost all of the people in Lagos and Owerri have access to tarred motorable roads, tap water, toilet facilities, drainages, sanitation and live in appartments with living rooms and bed rooms. How can that be called a slum?
Are you just commenting for commenting sake or do you really have something reasonable to say?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 2:00pm On Apr 14, 2017
Muafrika2:


You also need to examine the causes of urbanisation and the movement of people from rural to urban areas. Mostly it is in search of employment, directly linked to reduced opportunities in the rural areas.

In Kenya, some rural communities are very empowered, such that they hardly ever leave their homes for cities. I live with the Kalenjin for example. They inhabit the Rift Valley (which has towns like Eldoret). They are also the fourth largest tribal group in Kenya, but you will hardly ever meet them in low income estates in Nairobi.

Kalenjins have very good schools back in the Rift Valley. They are economically empowered with knowledge in dairy production and supply milk companies based all over the Rift Valley. Am in a small town, but there is a milk processing plant just around the corner serving this area. Kalenjins also grow tea and like milk, there are tea factories dotted all over the place. There are many teaching colleges in Kalenjin land, making it the most common profession among the people here.

When Kalenjin runners win millions in athletic championships, they bring back the money to their home and invest in their houses, farms, rental houses, etc. My landlord is one of them. The best people to have as landlords by the way.

I believe Kalenjin empowerment was so effective that our Kikuyus do not enjoy the same kind of privilege.

My own Luhya people are the opposite. No Agricultural empowerment, not enough land (after colonialists left, our politicians took the land they had stolen from our people for themselves), limited knowledge in agricultural production, no market for our goods, no colleges and no factories - it pays to have a president from your own tribe undecided

That means cities are flooded with my Luhya kinsmen looking for menial jobs. My people flood every town, including the little towns like where I live.

I hope I have demonstrated the powers behind rural to urban migration and population of urban centers at the expense of rural areas.

Ok, great, i think i get the concept. It is good for the countryside of a country to look developed.

I think, Nigeria is heavily urbanised because of our 36 state govts and 774 local govts. Every of our states and local governments have administrative capitals and headquarters where adminsitrative activities take place, leading to creation of more jobs and rapid urbanisation.

So i guess you can see the reason why our markets for entertainment, banking and other industries are very large? People in the cities always tend to appreciate the elements of modern life more creating a greater market.

I believe if your country had adopted a similar state govt system like Nigeria then your country would have been more urbanized (somehow forcefully) because there would be more administrative city centres all over the country.

Kenya can never go into full blown industrialization without urbanisation and some of your sectors like your entertainment, fashion and banking sectors may never achieve their full potentials because these sectors feed more on urbanization.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:22pm On Apr 14, 2017
Nowenuse:


Ok, great, i think i get the concept. It is good for the countryside of a country to look developed.

I think, Nigeria is heavily urbanised because of our 36 state govts and 774 local govts. Every of our states and local governments have administrative capitals and headquarters where adminsitrative activities take place, leading to creation of more jobs and rapid urbanisation.

So i guess you can see the reason why our markets for entertainment, banking and other industries are very large? People in the cities always tend to appreciate the elements of modern life more creating a greater market.

I believe if your country had adopted a similar state govt system like Nigeria then your country would have been more urbanized (somehow forcefully) because there would be more administrative city centres all over the country.

Kenya can never go into full blown industrialization without urbanisation and some of your sectors like your entertainment, fashion and banking sectors may never achieve their full potentials because these sectors feed more on urbanization.
Government does that too. Many small towns have suddenly become administrative centres and there is alot of construction going around. Land has also become abit expensive in the rural areas too.

I love the idea of devolution of government for the fact that communities that have no chance of ever having a president (and the benefits accruing) can at last have a little share of resources normally withheld. They can be educated on things like farming, etc But hopefully it won't result to another wave of migration into the towns from the villages. Communities are better when they stay within their traditional settings.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 2:24pm On Apr 14, 2017
ZarZar:


Kwaaaaaaa! Do they know our entertainment industry boasts Grammys & an Oscar award? grin
Jayceon:
the sound quality is horrible,always sounds like someone is jumping up and down a corrugated iron
Muafrika2:


Errm

I hear that that happens. Many of their (3 - 6 hour long) movies are shot within 3 days shocked

I still love them though. The end result is totally hilarious grin

Up to 8 Nigerians have won Grammys. Almost anybody wins that these days.

Pls, you guys should tell me of what use is an industry that produces 1 or 2 quality movies once in a decade?
An industry that cannot captivate the entire Africa producing movies that relate with the African masses?

Most of those South African movies, (i agree they are of good quality) but they are usually produced once in a decade and they are mostly centred on South African history of Apartheid (which only Black South africans can relate with)
While Nigeria on the other hand mostly produce movies (drama styled) always with intriguing and captivating story lines which relates better with the daily family, communal and social lives of the average African! That is why we still make more sales on the continent! Just like the Telenovelas have dominated most of the world as the preferred drama series.

However, many of our producers have started diversifying and are now producing historical movies like 'Sarafina'. Checkout these Award winning movies 'Black November, 76, Oloibiri'. Other movies like 'Higher a man, The wedding party, 30 days in Atlanta' e.t.c.

You guys should leave the old nollywood movies and check out the New nollywood movies which are now making sales of millions of dollars in weeks after production and are now featuring renowned American artistes and keep on dominating the African movies awards, while South African movie producers are still waiting to gather enough money to produce another Sarafina-like movie in the next 10 years. Pls, the world has gone past your apartheid movies which come once in a decade. tongue

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:34pm On Apr 14, 2017
Nowenuse:


Up to 8 Nigerians have won Grammys. Almost anybody wins that these days.

Pls, you guys should tell me of what use is an industry that produces 1 or 2 quality movies once in a decade?
An industry that cannot captivate the entire Africa producing movies that relate with the African masses?

Most of those South African movies, (i agree they are of good quality) but they are usually produced once in a decade and they are mostly centred on South African history of Apartheid (which only Black South africans can relate with)
While Nigeria on the other hand mostly produce movies (drama styled) always with intriguing and captivating story lines which relates better with the daily family, communal and social lives of the average African! That is why we still make more sales on the continent! Just like the Telenovelas have dominated most of the world as the preferred drama series.

However, many of our producers have started diversifying and are now producing historical movies like 'Sarafina'. Checkout these Award winning movies 'Black November, 76, Oloibiri'. Other movies like 'Higher a man, The wedding party, 30 days in Atlanta' e.t.c.

You guys should leave the old nollywood movies and check out the New nollywood movies which are now making sales of millions of dollars in weeks after production and are now featuring renowned American artistes and keep on dominating the African movies awards, while South African movie producers are still waiting to gather enough money to produce another Sarafina-like movie in the next 10 years. Pls, the world has gone past your apartheid movies which come once in a decade. tongue

Which Nigerians won Grammys? And don't tell me about Nigerians who made their music abroad. When we talk about people who've won Grammys in SA, we're talking people whose music was made at home. In other words, strictly South African music, in both sound & production.

The rest of your post is a joke grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:39pm On Apr 14, 2017
Nowenuse:

However, many of our producers have started diversifying and are now producing historical movies like 'Sarafina'. Checkout these Award winning movies 'Black November, 76, Oloibiri'. Other movies like 'Higher a man, The wedding party, 30 days in Atlanta' e.t.c
Are you sure? I've noted them. I'll try them some time
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:40pm On Apr 14, 2017
ZarZar:


We all know Nollywood is nothing but a poor man's Hollywood, hence they always choose us over you any day.

No one could have put it better. I said sometimes back that the poor house-helps and such are lucky to have Nollywood. Poor Man's Hollywood is the most comprehensive description. cool

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:50pm On Apr 14, 2017
TayserMahiri:


No one could have put it better. I said sometimes back that the poor house-helps and such are lucky to have Nollywood. Poor Man's Hollywood is the most comprehensive description. cool

Nigerians like to celebrate mediocrity. Captivating Africa my ass! Most of their movies revolve around witchcraft & slapstick comedy. That kind of thing gets old after a while because not everyone is illiterate & backwards. Some things should either stimulate your mind & make you think or at least inspire.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 2:59pm On Apr 14, 2017
GERALD710:

Last I checked, 67% of Kenyans are Bantu.So are 70% of Ugandans.
Chad is not considered to be part of Central Africa(from our point of view, it is in the West)
Last I checked ,the Azande ,a Bantu community are the third largest ethnic group in South Sudan
Most of Cameroon is Bantu, well over 80%
Somalia, which is in the Horn has Somali Bantus, as well as Swahilis and the Bajuni population which overlaps into Kenya
Pygmys form no more than 2% in any of the nations in Central Africa namely the Congo,Rwanda and the DRC, 98 TO 99%of the population is Bantu .In fact, the Congo (DRC)has only around 500,000 pygmys out of a population of well over 50 million. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congo_Pygmies
Rwandan Pygmys are 1% of the population, known as the Twa.
In South Africa, Last I checked, 80% of the population is Black, almost all Bantu. Can you add up the population of 80% of South Africa, 90% of Namibia, All of Angola,All of Zambia,All of Zimbabwe,All of Mozambique, save for the Whites,all of Swaziland and Lesotho,95% of Tanzania,98% of DRC, 70% of Uganda, 67% of Kenya, 98% of the DRC, 99% of the Congo,All of Rwanda and Burundi, All of Gabon,all of Equatorial Guinea save for a few migrants, and over 80% of Cameroon, all from one subgroup.
And btw, last I checked,West Africans are a patchwork of different ethnic subgroups many of whom have little in common and quite often hate each other(Northern and Southern Nigeria for example.Northern and Southern Chad,Northern and Southern Mali etc)While East Central and Southern Africans do have Bantu common roots.
Bantus are recognised as the largest African subgroup on the continent. Whether I go to the Zulus of South Africa or to the Azande of South Sudan,we use the word mtu to mean a person(and apparently the word goat in Zulu and Swahili is the same too.Mbuzi)
Swahili is spoken by 200 million people in East Africa alone!! That is Kenya, Uganda,Rwanda,Burundi,South Sudan and Tanzania. It is the official language of all three nations and has also been adopted by Rwanda,Burundi and South Sudan.Luganda is NOT an official language of Uganda.It never has been.It is indeed widely spoken in Southern and Eastern Uganda but go to the North and West. It is absent.Swahili on the other hand is present in every corner of Uganda.
The 200 million people you mention, do not include the Eastern DRC who also speak Kiswahili(Joseph Kabila feels quite at home in any part of East Africa.It is also why Congolese refugees face little hostility across the region), Malawi, where there are Swahilis,Mozambique, Comoros and Part of Zambia.

Last I checked MPESA is in every country in East Central and Southern Africa except the Horn(Ethiopia due to Government monopoly, Eritrea and Somalia due to turmoil)
Ever heard of Vodacom??(Not Vodafone,Vodacom)
It offers MPESA in all the above nations except CAR and I believe Angola.Whether you go to Mozambique
http://allafrica.com/stories/201305280313.html
Lesotho
http://www.vodacom.co.ls/ls-personal/m-pesa/m-pesa
or the DRC
http://www.nation.co.ke/business/eMoney/Safaricom-MTN-partnership-Africa/1625712-2694198-yc82wo/index.html
MPESA is there.
MPESA is also found in Egypt and Romania
https://www.mobileworldlive.com/money/news-money/vodafone-to-launch-m-pesa-in-egypt-romania-report/
as well as India
https://www.mpesa.in/portal/
And Afghanistan where they use a different name(M-Paisa, generally the same meaning) but the same platform
https://www.roshan.af/en/business/m-paisa/
So MPESA has not just spread across East Africa(BTW,it is available on MTN Uganda and Rwanda as well) but has gone to even India and even Romania.
MPESA is indeed becoming a global force.

Ok
Let me correct some wrong points and misconceptions of yours.

1) Chad has never been part of West Africa, they belong to the Community of Central African states, they never belonged to Ecowas. Dont forget that the Sara people who are the largest ethnic group in Chad are also a major ethnic group in CAR.

2) West Africans do not hate each other. Our only differences are political and not racial or ethnic. We never had an ethnic genocide (Hutu-Tutsi) like you Bantus did in Rwanda. You Bantus have killed yourselves more than us.
See the extreme poverty in Central Africa today because of wars. So i wonder where the Bantu brotherhood is. Xenophobic set of humans.
I am a northern Nigerian and i love Southern Nigerians as much as my own people. The only difference between us are political, colonial and religious difference. The fact that we are from different language groups is very inconsequential to us.

90% of Malians are as black as i am. The problem with the light skinned northern minority berbers is that they refused to go to school and integrate with the govt in the south. Black Malians were not the ones who colonized the berbers, the french people were, why don't they take their grievance to France? Those people see themselves more like their counterparts in North Africa and they will continue to be isolated as long as they choose to isolate themselves. (for me, i wish they and their deserts would be given independence to join Algerian deserts).

3) We west Africans love and respect each other so much. Our countries will never think of Warring each other like your Bantu brothers of Congo, Rwanda and Burundi or your East African cousins of Ethiopia, Eriteria, Somalia and South Sudan. Every issue we will have is internal and thank God for a united ECOWAS which helps us speak with one voice as one people.

As for your Mpesa. Ok, can you give an official link showing the population of members it has on the continent and it's total net income? Cos you obviously did not understand what i meant by penetrate. Mpesa is in Ghana for instance but barely 1% of the population know about it or use it.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:12pm On Apr 14, 2017
Nowenuse:


Pls i dare you to show me the slums in Nigeria, bring out their pictures and let's check their development if they are qualified to be called slums, then we ascertain their population.

Lol, A nigerian daring me to post their slums haha. You guy must have guts !Here are a few. Let me know whether we can go through them one by one so that you may tell us where you live in one of these. 15 million souls in nigeria live in one of these.
1. Premium Ilaje Toilet and Bathroom. Notice where all the waste goes. grin
2. Ilaje Supermarket grin
3. Ilaje Baby
4. Shomolu

What is the Nigerian standard for slum? Pray tell us before I continue adding. You asked for it, don't call me a hater

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