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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Obi1kenobi(m): 5:44pm On Apr 14, 2017
MtuMsuper:

That, sir, is the very definition of QUANTITATIVE Analysis.
What is this GDP?
How is it distributed?
NY city has a larger GDP than Sweden many times over, but the average Swede lives longer,eats better, is better at math and science,is bilingual, is more informed ,and has universal health care(hola Trump!) than the average new yorker. In other words, if i were a roach, i would rather be a roach in Sweden.
Thats a starter course for you now.

I get your point, but while Lagos may reflect the extreme wealth disparity of a city like New York, I doubt Kenya is anything like Sweden. Just like Nigeria, you have extreme wealth mixing with extreme poverty. So, your analogy is a false one.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:02pm On Apr 14, 2017
Jayceon:
I'm sure white South Africans also told Indians,Indonesians,Malaysians,etc to kill nigerians.face it bro...you are just a hated species world wide due to being criminals of the world even your president told the world to watch out for nigerian criminals while he was in the UK to please his masters.the truth is bitter yes I know but you just have to face the facts

Nigeria is far awaaaaaaay from being the most independent country in Africa and deep inside you know it
looooolllll do u also know that Nigerians are know for their academic prowess . u guys are just Petit whyners
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 6:33pm On Apr 14, 2017
Eastwalk:
Even on qualitative analysis as you imply Lagos GDP per capita as in per person is higher than Kenya

Lagos GDP---$91 billion
Per person-----$4,333
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagos_State

Kenya GDP per person $3,304

If Lagos is a country it will engolf Kenya in all reminifications

Pls, Kenya's GDP per capital (nominal) is below $2,000. Around $1700. That your figure $3304 is GDP per capital (PPP).
Nigeria's per capital (PPP) is twice that of Kenya.
Our economy (PPP) is ten times their economy.

Pls, differentiate the Nominal figures from the PPP figures. They are not anywhere close to Nigeria financially, no matter the measure you use.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:33pm On Apr 14, 2017
Just30:
the entire GDP of Nigeria is 270 billion dollars yet you are still quoting Lagos GDP @90 billion .
Your currency lost 75% of it's value over a period of 6 months, deal with that.
lllooooooooooooooooollllllll thus is d funniest joke iv see on nairaland, guy no matter how u reduce naija GDP it will still be bigger than Ghana and Kenya combine . so just stop all this hating, it won't get u anywhere looooollll how can u say naija GDP is 270 billion chai naija don suffer oooo

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:35pm On Apr 14, 2017
lllooooooooooooooooollllllll thus is d funniest joke iv see on nairaland, guy no matter how u reduce naija GDP it will still be bigger than Ghana and Kenya combine . so just stop all this hating, it won't get u anywhere looooollll how can u say naija GDP is 270 billion chai naija don suffer oooo

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 6:39pm On Apr 14, 2017
TayserMahiri:
Dude, Lagos is just a Mega Slum. You can fly to the moon and back but it remains that. A Mega City of Slums.

Oga, i challenged you to cite the Nigerian slums with internet references (aside Makoko). I have been waiting since. Are you telling me that all those hours you spent googling trying to find pictures of Nigerian slums have been futile?
Pls try harder.

Show me a Nigerian slum with aerial pics showing the vast slum expanse like this Kenyan slum below!

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 6:49pm On Apr 14, 2017
Eastwalk:
If Lagos with the landmass of 3,577 km 2 has 13 slums in total, is referred to as a mega....... Then I wonder what Nairobi with a much smaller landmass of 696 km 2 with 35 slums in total will be referred to shocked shocked you hypocrite http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_slums undecided
TayserMahiri:


Keep digging all the info. Its clearer now why the 15 million Lagosians live in slums due to such an expensive city. See you just explained it.

Pls, Nigeria has only one slum, which is Makoko.
Agege, Mushin and Shomolu are not slums.

No one can give me an aerial view or picture of Agege, Mushin or Shomolu to prove that they are slums.

Here is an aerial/territorial view of what a real slum looks like!

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:51pm On Apr 14, 2017
You are a special mental case
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:51pm On Apr 14, 2017
Just visit the nearest mental hospital wherever you are
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 6:58pm On Apr 14, 2017
Nowenuse:


Pls, Kenya's GDP per capital (nominal) is below $2,000. Around $1700. That your figure $3304 is GDP per capital (PPP).
Nigeria's per capital (PPP) is twice that of Kenya.
Our economy (PPP) is ten times their economy.

Pls, differentiate the Nominal figures from the PPP figures. They are not anywhere close to Nigeria financially, no matter the measure you use.
You see, the point am making is that GDP(your fake and questionable one, and others) is a measure of CONSUMPTION and/or PRODUCTION. GDP is not a measure of wealth and / or happiness. Nigeria is happier than S Korea but less materially prosperous. In Nigeria's case its heavily distorted by oil production and a highly exclusive and elitist financial sector based in Lagos. HDI and development Indicators on the other hand measure overall quality of life and wellbeing.
You better back up your figures on PPP vs Nominal GDP ,quoting wikipedia will get you a serious ass whooping - not credible,but useful.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 7:11pm On Apr 14, 2017
Obi1kenobi:


I get your point, but while Lagos may reflect the extreme wealth disparity of a city like New York, I doubt Kenya is anything like Sweden. Just like Nigeria, you have extreme wealth mixing with extreme poverty. So, your analogy is a false one.
All right then jedimaster , i was merely trying to debunk the obscene and lewd line of the Lagos GDP vs kenya/ghana combination, not trying to swing my luminous sword.
Lagos GDP, looks like a muscular body builder with huge head,arms and torso ,but the legs of a chicken. This so called big GDP is based on a large financial sector and other related fields, but the average Lagosian has an extremely high cost of living tp bear, and no social services or utilities worth boasting of. Ancient Rome did a good job by the standards of the day in providing water fir its residents, and even attempted urban renewal at a scale Lagos or even any other modern city today would envy.
We all have a long way to go.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 7:13pm On Apr 14, 2017
Eastwalk:
If Lagos with the landmass of 3,577 km 2 has 13 slums in total, is referred to as a mega....... Then I wonder what Nairobi with a much smaller landmass of 696 km 2 with 35 slums in total will be referred to shocked shocked you hypocrite http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_slums undecided
TayserMahiri:
Dude, Lagos is just a Mega Slum. You can fly to the moon and back but it remains that. A Mega City of Slums.

Look at internet pictures of Mushin and Agege which ignorant people classify as slums. These places are just low income areas. They are not full blown slums like Kibera or Mathare in Nairobi (that attract world NGOs and humanitarian aids).
In Mushin and Agege, people (not the govt) build modern appartments and storey building houses with toilet facilities and running tap water. They are not full blown slums. Makoko is the only full blown slum that ever existed in Nigeria.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 7:19pm On Apr 14, 2017
ZarZar:


Which awards did they win? grin Because I have no interest in reviewing some indomie award winning pile of trash on a reel.

From the best and biggest movie awards in Africa.
AMVCA.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 7:25pm On Apr 14, 2017
Jayceon:
I'm sure white South Africans also told Indians,Indonesians,Malaysians,etc to kill nigerians.face it bro...you are just a hated species world wide due to being criminals of the world even your president told the world to watch out for nigerian criminals while he was in the UK to please his masters.the truth is bitter yes I know but you just have to face the facts

Nigeria is far awaaaaaaay from being the most independent country in Africa and deep inside you know it

Why were Zimbabweans and Somalians also gruesomely attacked too? Or you think the world did not see it?

You lazy xenophobic asses were complaining that somalis have taken over your street retail markets.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Obi1kenobi(m): 7:25pm On Apr 14, 2017
MtuMsuper:

You see, the point am making is that GDP(your fake and questionable one, and others) is a measure of CONSUMPTION and/or PRODUCTION. GDP is not a measure of wealth and / or happiness. Nigeria is happier than S Korea but less materially prosperous. In Nigeria's case its heavily distorted by oil production and a highly exclusive and elitist financial sector based in Lagos. HDI and development Indicators on the other hand measure overall quality of life and wellbeing.
You better back up your figures on PPP vs Nominal GDP ,quoting wikipedia will get you a serious ass whooping - not credible,but useful.

Was even supporting Kenya here, but you're spewing nonsense. If you have different stats, post them here. And the Wikipedia stats are quoted directly from various sources: the IMF, World Bank, and even the bleeping CiA. The links are right there in the Wiki articles. Cook up your own stats and publish if you disagree with those bodies. Don't come here and distort reality just because statistics are inconvenient for you.

Don't know what oil production has to do with anything either. For one, we didn't deny your rights to utilize any God-given resources you have. Secondly, Oil if anything has been a curse to us. Nigeria was the fastest developing country on the planet before we discovered oil. Oil made us a lousy bunch of losers and destroyed our competitive confederacy with a lose attachment to the centre into a unitary governance style that allocated money from the centre. Our agricultural and industrial base was gutted as we stupidly tried to run a large country with a large population with less oil money than tiny Qatar or UAE.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:28pm On Apr 14, 2017
Nowenuse:


From the best and biggest movie awards in Africa.
AMVCA.

Let's not forget that these awards have alot of rigging and corruption especially where Nigerian entertainers are involved sad
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:35pm On Apr 14, 2017
Reality check to the guy who would rather bury his head in the sands. I hate to post this.
`But you can fool yourselves. Its free to do that

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:38pm On Apr 14, 2017
Obi1kenobi:


Was even supporting Kenya here, but you're spewing nonsense. If you have different stats, post them here. And the Wikipedia stats are quoted directly from various sources: the IMF, World Bank, and even the bleeping CiA. The links are right there in the Wiki articles. Cook up your own stats and publish if you disagree with those bodies. Don't come here and distort reality just because statistics are inconvenient for you.

Don't know what oil production has to do with anything either. For one, we didn't deny your rights to utilize any God-given resources you have. Secondly, Oil if anything has been a curse to us. Nigeria was the fastest developing country on the planet before we discovered oil. Oil made us a lousy bunch of losers and destroyed our competitive confederacy with a lose attachment to the centre into a unitary governance style that allocated money from the centre. Our agricultural and industrial base was gutted as we stupidly tried to run a large country with a large population with less oil money than tiny Qatar or UAE.

You Sir, is very sensible
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 7:44pm On Apr 14, 2017
TayserMahiri:
You are a special mental case

Hahaha, you have taken to insults because you know that you cannot prove anything.

I dared you and still daring you to give me aerial or territorial pictures of Nigerian slums (aside Makoko) which have internet citations!
Since you tried but failed to do it, you have gone into your default (factory settings) mode of insults. You will soon auto-destruct if you are not careful.

I have observed that a lot of you are just stark jealous and hate-filled souls. You guys loose sleep over Nigeria, hating us and our progress for no just reason. Is it our fault that we are emerging and taking our rightful place as the powerhouse of Africa?
If you guys want to challenge us, merge yourselves together and become as big as us.

There are a lot of cons we suffer in being a large nation but we also enjoy advantages too. When we suffer the cons you people will go mute but when we start enjoying the benefits, you are always looking for ways to pull us down or rubbish us, claiming that our population gave us the advantage.

Just accept the fact that Nigeria is better than you guys in city building and urban lifestyle and it will not kill you.
Lagos an urban area of 21 million and there is only 1 full blown slum (Makoko), making less than 1% of people in the city. The slum is even half demolished. That is very great for a developing nation. Even Brazil (Rio de janeiro) with half of Lagos' population has the world's most renowned slum, the same thing with Mumbai (India's largest city).

For instance, i would easily admit and applaud the fact that South Africa dominates the entire continent in satelite television (DStv) which has given birth to many other ventures like Africa Magic (which now hosts the biggest movie awards in Africa), Big brother reality TV show (the most watched reality TV in Africa) and many more.

If it is Kenyans and SAns, many of them would rather die than accept the fact that Nigeria dominates the Entertainment, Fashion, Religious, Banking and Financial industries of Africa.

Envy and hate-filled lots!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 7:49pm On Apr 14, 2017
TayserMahiri:
Reality check to the guy who would rather bury his head in the sands. I hate to post this.
`But you can fool yourselves. Its free to do that

No one can see anything from your pictures. No names, citations and co. They are not clear or precise.
Pls use google or any other site which presents it clearer like this! (Unedited)

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:51pm On Apr 14, 2017
I just tuned on to see its Chibok Girls 3 Rd Anniversary. Its time to celebrate Nigerians
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:55pm On Apr 14, 2017
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 8:01pm On Apr 14, 2017
TayserMahiri:
Reality check to the guy who would rather bury his head in the sands. I hate to post this.
`But you can fool yourselves. Its free to do that

Since you cannot, let me help you.
See what the lowest income areas of Lagos (Nigerian cities on average) look like (which ignorant people like you call slums).

Look well, you can see that some of them can even afford Satelite televison and Air conditioners. You can see the tarred roads at their doorsteps. They all have toilet facilities and live in concrete built houses with some form of sanitation.
Nigerians don't live in full blown slums. It is not our culture and the govts will never allow it. That is why Makoko people had to build theirs on water and Makoko was originally a small fishing community of few fishermen and never started as a slum!

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Eastwalk(m): 8:03pm On Apr 14, 2017
Nowenuse:


Pls, Kenya's GDP per capital (nominal) is below $2,000. Around $1700. That your figure $3304 is GDP per capital (PPP).
Nigeria's per capital (PPP) is twice that of Kenya.
Our economy (PPP) is ten times their economy.

Pls, differentiate the Nominal figures from the PPP figures. They are not anywhere close to Nigeria financially, no matter the measure you use.
Of course, i was only comparing their economy as a country to Lagos as a single city in Nigeria. thanks for the correction now noted.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:05pm On Apr 14, 2017
Moment of silence for the Chibok Girls
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:13pm On Apr 14, 2017
Nowenuse:


Why were Zimbabweans and Somalians also gruesomely attacked too? Or you think the world did not see it?

You lazy xenophobic asses were complaining that somalis have taken over your street retail markets.
go and ask them why they were attacked cause quite frankly I don't give a fück.Speaking of the world watching...do you think the world don't know of tribal killings that go on inside Nigeria? Did white South Africans also tell you to slaughter each other over some trivial nonsense like tribe? Nobody has killed nigerians like how you have been killing each other

I'm lazy and xenophobic yet my country is 1000x better than yours...come again!!!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ABOKI9ja: 8:17pm On Apr 14, 2017
ZarZar:


Lol @ Beyoncé vs Rihanna. Really? grin TBH, the only Nigerian movie I can say I enjoyed was one called Baby Oku or something like that. The rest bored me because they either had people turning into snakes, a girl that's always in tears or some women fighting over a yellowbone prince/guy. The story lines are always predictable. Hence I think they're made strictly for dummies grin Another annoying thing about them is those songs they play in their movies, not even using people with good voices.
I think Nigerians want always be ourselves, we don't really Copy things we Create things in our own way. Leadership fails Nigeria but with time everything will be perfect cool cool cool
We might have Beefs but we having the same feelings for Our Dear Nairaland (greenLand)

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by naijalander: 8:23pm On Apr 14, 2017
There are no tribal clashes in Nigeria only disagreements between individuals that the media reports as tribal. Ethnocentrism in Nigeria does not go past nepotism and the frequent stereo typing , a Yorubas guy will never attack an Igbo over being Igbo and an Igbo knows he's got money at stake by attacking a Northerner over his tribe.

Ethnic clashes when investigated always end up being disagreements between people that has nothing to do with ethnicity. Nigerians are not as tribalistic as South Africans and or Kenyans.





Jayceon:
go and ask them why they were attacked cause quite frankly I don't give a fück.Speaking of the world watching...do you think the world don't know of tribal killings that go on inside Nigeria? Did white South Africans also tell you to slaughter each other over some trivial nonsense like tribe? Nobody has killed nigerians like how you have been killing each other

I'm lazy and xenophobic yet my country is 1000x better than yours...come again!!!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ABOKI9ja: 8:25pm On Apr 14, 2017
ZarZar:


You guys always start the comparisons imo. We're not in the same league by any stretch of imagination, so I'm not sure why you'd think we're envious of you. Envious of what? Your industry may be the 2nd biggest, but us & the world know it's not about quantity, quality is what matters. What should you have called yourselves? Erm IDK, something original perhaps? We all know Nollywood is nothing but a poor man's Hollywood, hence they always choose us over you any day.
we prefer to build our own Nation than Some people from another race to build for us. Surely, we are in Tough time but things will be ok and Normal

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:29pm On Apr 14, 2017
ABOKI9ja:
we prefer to build our own Nation than Some people from another race to build for us. Surely, we are in Tough time but things will be ok and Normal

And who is letting people from another race build a country for them? Humour me
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by owbabs: 8:35pm On Apr 14, 2017

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