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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:23pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: Enough of this same punchline, plenty of players have had dips in their form. The problem is we can never tell if Iheanacho has dipped or not because he is barely on the field. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:25pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 11:26pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: Ighalo as we know is on a declining curve. So that is no comparison. I told you once that even playing time does not necessarily translate to improvement how much less lack of playing time. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by SIRmanjar(m): 11:26pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:28pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
Icon4s: It was people like you that clamoured we do not play Iheanacho and kept Ighalo upfront. Because Ighalo was regular at Watford and Nacho was not. That was so shallow that a journalist asked of Oliseh's decision that Iheanacho was ready for the Super Eagles after he scored against Crystal Palace? Was it not the same player or did that goal transform Iheanacho? I have repeatedly said, experience/bench warmer talk is an excuse of dropping the best for a weaker player. We need the best in terms of speed, stamina, fitness, shooting accuracy, work rate, tracking back. If with Iheanacho's benching, he can do these more than those with regular game time, why is the game time paramount? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:30pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
Icon4s: You are making game time paramount but can type declining curve. Who drew the curve? Nacho was not playing regularly but he is on an upward trajectory while the Ighalo that was playing regularly was a declining curve. How can that playing regularly now become a yardstick? Can you not see how bogus this regular time is? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:33pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
BascoVanVeli: You can not tell but in the last camp we did, we had journalist writing Iheanacho as one of the top performers in camp over those you watched regularly. Is that not telling if he has dipped or not. Is it not in the game against Algeria that despite not playing regularly, the coach of Algeria and a reputable journalist pointed Iheanacho as the reason we beat Algeria? Do we have another striker who can put in that amount of energy? Even with their regular playing time? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:35pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
When people can not answer the questions, they resort to digs. We have seen clearly now that with playing time, players deteriorate. That means, it is not a determinant for success. So quit using it as a yardstick to select players. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:38pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 11:44pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: Iheanacho at that time was not considered as a CF for the Eagles. It only made team selection sense to have had Ighalo as our CF then as he was our hottest striker. Though I never believed he had what it takes to become a goals king but he was a better choice than the others. No sane coach I repeat no sane coach would have started Iheanacho ahead of Ighalo at the time when Ighalo was having a glittering career. Though he has deeped in form which was not anticipated this early. All those attributes you listed in your last paragraph is it by being out of match day squad(warming bench is even better) that a player will achieve those? So amazing. See, Iheanacho is a Nigerian before being a Manchester City player. I am concerned with what he will deliver on the field of play and not how much of Pep's philosophy he has learned on the 'Drilling ground'. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 11:45pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: Without playing time players are even more prone to deterioration 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by SIRmanjar(m): 11:45pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:48pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
Dedebanky85: You are only concerned with Iheanacho's appearance and not his development. If you watched that game, you will see the speed of his movement. It is not who calls police first that wins the case. Let Nacho keep working hard, he will get to play with as much mobility as Gabriel Jesus. Nacho already showed sign in his last appearance. I do not know how else to say it. Gabriel Jesus already has what Guardiola wants from Nacho. Exercise patience. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:49pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
Icon4s: Based no what. Nacho was on the bench and Bony was playing. Yet Nacho outshone him and performed despite lack of regular playing time. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 11:51pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: Oh my God bros Quiet this argument abeg. If you want Iheanacho to sit on the bench his entire career na you sabi. City are planning on signing a new striker and of course you know that will mean Iheanacho may never see action for weeks and you feel happy that a player you so rated to be a world beater will continue to remain on the bench till when? I am not understanding you again this man. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 11:52pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe:Do you agree with me that Iheanacho has dipped in form? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:52pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
Manchester United reveal tribute to fans electrocuted in Nigeria tragedy BY CIARAN KELLY Man Utd fixtures includes a poignant gesture ahead of the Reds' game vs Swansea on Sunday. Manchester United's players will wear black armbands against Swansea on Sunday in memory of the seven fans killed in the Calabar tragedy in Nigeria. More than 80 football fans were watching the Reds' 2-1 win over Anderlecht in a viewing centre last week when a high-tension electricity cable fell on top of it. Nigerian police have confirmed that seven people were killed and 10 more were seriously injured following the mass electrocution before half-time. Initial reports had suggested that 30 fans had died in the centre, which is said to have been constructed mostly with corrugated zinc. United issued a statement on Twitter in the aftermath of the tragedy last week. “Our thoughts go out to the United fans, their friends and families affected by the tragedy in Calabar, Nigeria, yesterday," it read. Source: http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/manchester-united-fixtures-nigeria-fans-12959301 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:52pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
Icon4s: Stop saying no Sane coach. Say lots of coaches who lack foresight will not notice a monster was growing in City. Nacho was ready but Oliseh lacked the foresight to pick the best. He relied on playing time. When Nacho scored against Crystal Palace, with few minutes of play, Oliseh said Nacho was ready. He lacked understanding. His sanity messed us up. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:54pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
Icon4s: Who dipped his form, you? Iheanacho has not dipped form. He is learning a different system. Put him in a direct Pellegrini system and he will flourish. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:55pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
chrisooblog: Sterling's case is the worse of the lot. Completely overhyped but somehow he is regarded as part of the 'future' of city, it's absurd. Sane I can understand, but Sterling is a total fail 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:59pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:00am On Apr 29, 2017 |
Icon4s: Which kind of quit this argument? Please. I said a year or two. Does that in any way look like forever to you? Unlike you, I even pointed a time-table. Before Nacho entered City, I pointed a reason. Work with the best. To Become the best, you challenge the best. Anyone Guardiola and the City crew want to bring, let them bring the person. I welcome it wholeheartedly. As I said, most are not thinking of his development. They just want playing time which has proven to fail. Let the person come and let the young man work very hard. When he gets his run, he will shine. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:02am On Apr 29, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: I thought you once said the coming of Jesus will only affect WFs like Sterling and Navas and not iheanacho. You talk as if you sleep and wake up with pep where as you do not know his plans and directions. That man does not have plans for a Nigerian by name Iheanacho. Idealogies like: 'Nigeria does not produce world class players so no need investing so much on Iheanacho he is not likely to produce the desired results. Jesus is a Brazilian and they are known to reach the various Zeniths of world football and so he is a better prospect '. I have just given you an hint of what those Europeans think about us. Sorry it seems Pep does not share same believes with you on Iheanacho. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:05am On Apr 29, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: This is the height of your insincerity in this matter. 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 12:06am On Apr 29, 2017 |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:09am On Apr 29, 2017 |
Icon4s: Explain the insincerity. I have given you a clear point. It is a different system. You see Nacho running to the box during build-up, if that was Pellegrini's system, the ball will goes towards that direction. In Pep's system, the ball goes back. Sometimes to the midfield and sometimes to the defence playing the highline. When Nacho gets the ball, he is most times with limited support and has to battle instead of striking. When he suits the system he will shine. Put him in a direct system and he will flourish. Simple. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 12:09am On Apr 29, 2017 |
Icon4s: ![]() ![]() Sir Joseph1013 (2016) 5 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:12am On Apr 29, 2017 |
Sir TheGoodJoe.... I get your points... but Chief Icon4s just hit a major cord with that one line of his.... Mr Pep Guardiola don't seem to share same views with You about Iheanacho.... this is the key reason why Nacho must leave. Pep doesnt rate the lad. Nacho can learn all he wants at City and from one of the best which pep and his team of coaches are... BUT.... and A Big But... Nacho is not in Pep's plans. When pep is asked, "Who are your strikers?" Pep reasons just two players... "Gabby J and Kun Aguero" So Sir GoodJoe... I get your well laid out points... I always do.... but the major killer point is Pep and you are not on the same page concerning Iheanacho. Icon4s: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:12am On Apr 29, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: O you said a year or two. You even drew or pointed out a time table. You now the Manager of Manchester City FC right? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:13am On Apr 29, 2017 |
Icon4s: I do not care if Guardiola do not have Iheanacho in his playing plans. I said that since the beginning of the season. I am more interested in Iheanacho adopting his philosophy. After adopting them, seek playing time. Whether at City or at another club. I always put players over clubs because a club can always buy a replacement but the players have one career. The system will make Iheanacho a better player. Tactically and physically. After absorbing it, seek playing time and shine. People neglect the development and just want playing time. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:17am On Apr 29, 2017 |
Icon4s: That is what separates me from people that think football is about playing time. If you consider that Mascherano said it took him over a year to absorb Guardiola's tactics, you will understand why I said a year or two. As you said, you do not care about the philosophy. So you are not even in the position to understand the importance. Even German coaches held regular sessions with Guardiola to learn his methods because they knew the importance. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:17am On Apr 29, 2017 |
Well.... time will tell.... I await the summer. But your points are well noted. TheGoodJoe: |
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