TheSuperNerd:
Sir TheGoodJoe.... I get your points... but Chief Icon4s just hit a major cord with that one line of his....

Mr Pep Guardiola don't seem to share same views with You about Iheanacho.... this is the key reason why Nacho must leave. Pep doesnt rate the lad. Nacho can learn all he wants at City and from one of the best which pep and his team of coaches are... BUT.... and A Big But... Nacho is not in Pep's plans.

When pep is asked, "Who are your strikers?"

Pep reasons just two players... "Gabby J and Kun Aguero"

So Sir GoodJoe... I get your well laid out points... I always do.... but the major killer point is Pep and you are not on the same page concerning Iheanacho.

TheGoodJoe:


That is what separates me from people that think football is about playing time. If you consider that Mascherano said it took him over a year to absorb Guardiola's tactics, you will understand why I said a year or two.

As you said, you do not care about the philosophy. So you are not even in the position to understand the importance.

Even German coaches held regular sessions with Guardiola to learn his methods because they knew the importance.

safarigirl:

Sir Joseph1013 (2016)

Icon4s:


Please explain to us the one or two years plan Pep, sorry, you have for Iheanacho. And please we need to see that time table you and Pep drew for Iheanacgo.

Icon4s:


Ola, O kwa ezi okwu now.

Icon4s:


I wonder how someone will see the hand writing on the wall and purposely refuse to read it. Or reads it but does not read the meaning.

safarigirl:

Sir Joseph1013 (2016)

safarigirl:
those guys were in a relationship between the ages of 18-20?

I am not saying Iwobi should turn celibate or any of that, I am saying he is a small boy. He can follow woman later this year or better still, next year when his brain haff mature small

TheGoodJoe:


You can not tell but in the last camp we did, we had journalist writing Iheanacho as one of the top performers in camp over those you watched regularly.

Is that not telling if he has dipped or not.

Is it not in the game against Algeria that despite not playing regularly, the coach of Algeria and a reputable journalist pointed Iheanacho as the reason we beat Algeria?

Do we have another striker who can put in that amount of energy? Even with their regular playing time?

TheGoodJoe:


You can not tell but in the last camp we did, we had journalist writing Iheanacho as one of the top performers in camp over those you watched regularly.

Is that not telling if he has dipped or not.

Is it not in the game against Algeria that despite not playing regularly, the coach of Algeria and a reputable journalist pointed Iheanacho as the reason we beat Algeria?

Do we have another striker who can put in that amount of energy? Even with their regular playing time?

kennysville:


God bless you front, back, left ,right and centre.

safarigirl:
no be only you no like the digs, butthwy must be said


Me sef, it pains me to see the digs, but if I were in Kelechi's shoes and I saw these digs, do you know what I would do? I would call up my agent and tell him I want to leave.

That is the purpose of the digs, let him be pissed off, let him feel sad and angry enough to want to get out of that limbo he has found himself.

If all the nice talk achieved nothing, then by all means, sling mud at him until he gets his head in the phucking game and realises the only way to stay relevant in football is to stay on the pitch

In fact, let Rohr call up Onyekuru for the France camp, throw Kelechi in the reserve team and le him know that he will only get his place back when he starts kicking balls in actual games cuz right now, he's no better than people who play football on PES

TheSuperNerd:
Rohr plans fresh Eagles call-up as Iheanacho, Iwobi and Musa warm Bench




Super Eagles Technical Adviser, Genort Rohr, is set to sub­mit his list of players to be invited for a training camp in France next month.

Rohr has been working round the clock to ensure he has the best set of players who will train in France for two weeks leading up to an AFCON 2019 qualifier at home against South Africa in June.

It was gathered that he and his assistants have been studying scouting reports which cover as many as 55 possible players, including a couple of fresh names.

However, the technical crew is having big concern over some of the regular stars like Kelechi Iheanacho, Alex Iwobi and Ahmed Musa, who are not enjoying regular first-team football at their respective clubs.

“The list of invitees for the France camp will be announced next week,” an official informed

“It is not expected to be much different from the players the coach has worked with in recent times, but we should expect a handful of new call-ups.”

It is also understood that Rohr will give more players from the NPFL a chance to stake a claim in his team.


Top of the domestic league stars on the radar are leading hotshot Stephen Odey, Alhassan Ibrahim ‘Muazam’, who has netted 10 goals for Akwa United this season, with goalkeeper Ikechukwu Ezenwa again in the mix.


Rohr has watched Odey in action for MFM FC, while his assistants have been at various league venues also taking down notes.

The training camp will open on May 24 on the French Island of Corsica, where the Eagles will play a test game with the local selection.


Source: http://www.thebreakingtimes.com/rohr-plans-fresh-eagles-call-up-as-iheanacho-iwobi-and-musa-warm-bench/

Mickael2:


I remember you said that you wanted Nacho to stay at Man City because you like hearing about nigerians playing for top clubs, so you have seen the light? I just pray GoodJoe sees it too.

The problem with this particular setup is that we can't possibly be using a bench warmer as our top striker. Forget this talk, Nacho is losing it and Iwobi too is losing it, we can't possibly play both of them against a top opposition. Nacho was missing easy chances against Senegal then he tucked home a penalty and we played out a draw but since it was just a friendly we all kept quiet, if the same thing happens against SA only then we will start complaining

binhozie:


The Algerian coach must be high on Oshogbo weed Victor Moses was the best player on the field that day Moses was in Messi mode, iheanacho missed clear cut chances mikel and etebo even played better, iheanacho and iwobi(bar one Jay Jay flick) were quiet that day, I think what actually happened was the Algerian coach said iwobi and iheanacho were Nigeria s key players before the match but during the match Moses raped them

BascoVanVeli:


Abeg spare me the political speech. Everything u said was ridiculous. How can u tell me that a STRIKER didn't dip because he ran around? We need to see him playing week in week out, there is a huge gap between training and the real match. This goes for every single sport ever created, i don't see how u can't get this.

terzurum5:

Thank you for this epic reply. Kelechi Iheanacho may not get the whole gist if we all keep positive and chain him to his comfort zone.

He should come out of his comfort zone by some of these jabs we throw at him.

I am even of the opinion that Rohr should allow Kayode who plays regularly for his team to start ahead of Iheanacho.

If he continues starting games for us, he may never get the message.

If this is seen as hatred towards Nacho, so be it.

Super Eagles can not afford to rely on a bench "warmer" (let alone someone who can't make the match day squad) though for no reason of his, for our World Cup games.

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But Mickael2 has this to say which very much correlates with some of the points stated above.

TheGoodJoe:


What part of I do not about Guardiola's playing time. Playing time is for people like you who think that guarantees development.

I am for the behind-the-scenes work. I am for the training sessions. The drills, the fitness routines. The diet, the reduction in building muscles through weights instead use aerobics workout sessions. The high intensity sessions.

These are what Nacho needs more than the game time you feel is the ultimate. After absorbing it. If there is no game time, move.

So tell me the handwriting I am not seeing.

TheGoodJoe:


The irony is that the so called Kayode also missed an easy chance but hey, it is good. He is playing regularly. Do you see the big whole in this train of thought?

As Kayode is now, take him to City and make Guardiola pick his striker. Kayode will not have a chance. But, hey he is playing regularly.

As I said, all these regular talk is just an excuse to drop the better player on the bench.

Rohr is taking the players to camp. He will watch them closely and select the best players. Let me see your el regularitos be stronger, faster, more stamina and better conversion rate.

TheGoodJoe:


It strikes me that I have to explain what I have explained.

Mascherano said it took him over a year to master it. I want Iheanacho to master the system. This will make him a better player. I am interested in a better player than a headline hype.

I quoted you on this before all these talk started. I told you I will not have problem with Iheanacho benching as long as he is learning the system.

I explained this in detail. I guess you did not pay attention. The City team is still learning. Anyone watching the team now can see the improvements.

Just like the team, the players are improving. Guardiola actually has a three years development plan. I do jot want Nacho that long without playing time. That is why I said a season or two.

BascoVanVeli:


Abeg spare me the political speech. Everything u said was ridiculous. How can u tell me that a STRIKER didn't dip because he ran around? We need to see him playing week in week out, there is a huge gap between training and the real match. This goes for every single sport ever created, i don't see how u can't get this.

Icon4s:


So because it took Mascherano over a year to master it, it will also take Iheanacho 1 or 2 too to master it. Your assumption here is highly flawed and baseless. No two players are the same and more so that do not play the same position and not have to compete with the same kind of players.

Kog45:
U nailed it my man.If i may ask does Mascherano learnt it as a bench warmer like Nacho.

binhozie:


The Algerian coach must be high on Oshogbo weed Victor Moses was the best player on the field that day Moses was in Messi mode, iheanacho missed clear cut chances mikel and etebo even played better, iheanacho and iwobi(bar one Jay Jay flick) were quiet that day, I think what actually happened was the Algerian coach said iwobi and iheanacho were Nigeria s key players before the match but during the match Moses raped them

Kog45:
No don't get people wronged,nobody was saying Kayode is better than Nacho but major issue is Nacho's development at Man City which is faulty under Pep but u are refusing to accept.

No doubt Nacho remain d top striker for Eagles coz statistics proved that but not having playing time is not good for his pedigree as Super Eagles striker.

If I may ask do u think Rohr is happy seeing Kelechi on d bench under disguise of learning or drilling under Pep or do u think Iheanacho is happy sitting on d bench or not even make a squad day match.

TheGoodJoe:


I do not care if Guardiola do not have Iheanacho in his playing plans. I said that since the beginning of the season. I am more interested in Iheanacho adopting his philosophy. After adopting them, seek playing time. Whether at City or at another club.

I always put players over clubs because a club can always buy a replacement but the players have one career.

The system will make Iheanacho a better player. Tactically and physically. After absorbing it, seek playing time and shine.

People neglect the development and just want playing time.

Icon4s:


So because it took Mascherano over a year to master it, it will also take Iheanacho 1 or 2 too to master it. Your assumption here is highly flawed and baseless. No two players are the same and more so that do not play the same position and not have to compete with the same kind of players.

Mujtahida:

Gaurdiola is not the alpha and omega in football na, so why do you press so strongly for KC to absorb his philosophy when it seems that Pep has not taken to the young man at all. I think the reason for the arguments on this point between you and other posters is that you regard preparation on the training ground aka drills as more important than playing time and that the drills should come before playing time. Others are of the view(and rightly so in my opinion) that both are of equal importance and should run concurrently. You drill, you play, you drill, you play. That's the equation that makes for robust development of a player.

joseph1013:

Dont let him deceive you. While Mascherano was learning, he was playing. He played two seasons with Pep. In 2010-11, he played 27 times. In 2011-2012, he played 31 times. I don't understand why he keeps bringing up that Mascherano example to justify Kelechi's snub. Sterling has been learning drills and is still getting worse by the day. Sane is not improving that much but is still playing g. Aguero is not a better scorer than previous seasons despite the drills but is still playing. He wants Kelechi to learning nonsense drills inside AC pitch with no plan for him to get regular minutes.