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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Debroslink: 9:21pm On May 03, 2017 |
Any team that can prevent Madrid from winning the title will have all the blessings of the 201 gods of Yoruba land. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 9:24pm On May 03, 2017 |
Ibime: Oboi these guys are the inverse of Real Madrid o. Ask Barca 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 9:26pm On May 03, 2017 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 9:39pm On May 03, 2017 |
Ibime:If Juve play 3 at the back then Madrid is in trouble BBC will easily handle those crosses and Alves and Sandro should be able to handle Marcelo and Carvajal If Madrid want to win the UCL they will have to do better than crosses |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 9:45pm On May 03, 2017 |
Ibime: No be barca wey whoop madrid ass in el classico ni. Dem go see Real juventus ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chic2pimp(m): 9:45pm On May 03, 2017 |
Dayo come and see Correct defenders o ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Elnino4ladies: 9:47pm On May 03, 2017 |
Juentus is very compact. Great team. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Skimpledawg(m): 9:52pm On May 03, 2017 |
Nihilist:Abi na only me dey see am? You don dey use the name often here than before ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 9:56pm On May 03, 2017 |
bigkesh: Yeah, could be 50:50 but we go see. Madrid no dey struggle with teams we would find difficult because they have more variations to their play. They are a counterattacking team that can also control possession with Kroos and Modric if need be. They can also get goals from defence if game is tight. Any style of play, they are decently equipped. 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Skimpledawg(m): 10:02pm On May 03, 2017 |
Elnino4ladies:My money is on them for the trophy... Only if Ramos and Ororo will respect themselves |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Elnino4ladies: 10:03pm On May 03, 2017 |
pamcode: Bertrand Traore with brace |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Elnino4ladies: 10:05pm On May 03, 2017 |
Skimpledawg: I want them to win too I just love the team They didn't miss pogba at all ![]() ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 10:08pm On May 03, 2017 |
chic2pimp: How will this remind anyone of Terry or Rio 2 carry along defenders. Barzagli don turn correct defender? What you are seeing there is community defending. When you play community defence with 3 defenders average players can look good in it. Like David Luiz and Cahill You have Barzagli, Bonnuci, Chelinni, Alex Sandro Dani Alves come have Marchisio on on top How many defensive players in a team Take each one of them out from the parapo defence and see the scores like Barzagli found out in Wolfsburg or like Canavaro found out in Madrid |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pamcode(m): 10:09pm On May 03, 2017 |
Elnino4ladies:Right you are with Ajax winning 4-1. They are the only home team in european competition presently that didn’t lose at home. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Thecassanova: 10:10pm On May 03, 2017 |
Juventus is gonna win this Champions league. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Skimpledawg(m): 10:15pm On May 03, 2017 |
Elnino4ladies:You mean Adabowale' according to diggz? ![]() That one na player? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Elnino4ladies: 10:19pm On May 03, 2017 |
pamcode: Wow that is great I wish Traore all the best. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 10:20pm On May 03, 2017 |
Looking forward to seeing Traore in the final. I haven't watched his game this year. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Elnino4ladies: 10:20pm On May 03, 2017 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chic2pimp(m): 10:35pm On May 03, 2017 |
raumdeuter: Your definition of a carry along defender and mine differs. Besides you, everyone else knows Rio and Terry played key roles in their team's success. Don't get it twisted, Barza is a good defender. He beasted the Bundesliga when Wolfsburg won the title. He was the best central defender in your league that year. raumdeuter: Which Kind of crazing reasoning is this? Which great defender past or present has not benefited in one way or another from community defending? Maybe we should say all defenders are equal then since they've all benefited from parapo defending. Stick Shawcross in the Munich teams of the 70s, i'm sure He'll be as highly rated as Der Kaiser. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 10:58pm On May 03, 2017 |
chic2pimp: Please in which Bundeslia did Barzagli beast? The Austrian one or which? Barzagli who Wolfsburg bought for 11m and sold for 300K 3yrs later Below is the report from Barzagli 3 woeful years in Germany Barzagli was fortunate that his first season at the club coincided with one of the most potent three-pronged attacks in Bundesliga history—Grafite (28 goals, 11 assists), Edin Džeko (26 goals, 10 assists) and Zvjezdan Misimović (7 goals, 20 assists). Felix Magath, who was relieved from his duties at Bayern Munich, led Die Wölfe to their first Bundesliga title, pipping Bayern by two points. Not one Wolfsburg defender ranked in kicker's top 15 defenders, which was somewhat of an anomaly, since league champions generally always have at least one defender on that list. What was the end result? Barzagli was dragged all over the place as Gómez netted four times. Andrea didn't look like a €11 million-valued centre-back, but no one vehemently pointed out his flaws, since Wolfsburg were champions. But this wasn't the case during the 2009-10 season, as Wolfsburg supporters found their scapegoat—an overpriced and overpaid Barzagli. The club went from No. 1 to not even qualifying for the UEFA Europa League, mainly due to Andrea's gaffes at the back. Where do you start? Hamburg scored twice in seven minutes (they ended with four), with Barzagli being caught out of position time after time. Andrea then spent a month warming the benches. In the 3-1 loss to Borussia Dortmund, he couldn't win the ball away from Lucas Barrios in a game in which Mohamed Zidan had Zizou-like moments. Wolfsburg leaked 58 goals in the Bundesliga that season, with Andrea receiving the worst kicker rating on the team for players who started 20-plus games. The following January, Wolfsburg management cut bait and sold Barzagli to Juventus for a loss of €10.7 million. Here are Barzagli's ranking during his time at Wolfsburg: Kicker Player Rankings All Players Defenders Only 2008-09 ------------------68------ 18 2009-10 -----------------186------ 65 2010-11----------------- 164--------- 54 WhoScored Player Rankings 2009-10 165 N/A 2010-11 102 N/A Bild Player Rankings 2010-11 174 59 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:00pm On May 03, 2017 |
chic2pimp: Actually false, according to kicker, Barzagli was the 18th best defender in the Bundesliga that year Wolfsburg won the league He went from the 18th best defender to the 65th best defender and 54th best defender Which Kind of crazing reasoning is this? Which great defender past or present has not benefited in one way or another from community defending? Maybe we should say all defenders are equal then since they've all benefited from parapo defending. Stick Shawcross in the Munich teams of the 70s, i'm sure He'll be as highly rated as Der Kaiser. When these parapo defenders are isolated they show their weaknesses. I am wishing Citeh will buy Bonnuci next season and Pep will use him in a high line from the half way line where he will have 40yards of space behind him 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chic2pimp(m): 11:09pm On May 03, 2017 |
raumdeuter: 2008/09 He Beasted your league. He was the best defender in a league winning side. He wasn't just a carry along as you like to say. He was the Most Vital defence cog of a Bundesliga winning side. Those are Hallmarks of a beast to me. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:17pm On May 03, 2017 |
chic2pimp: Kicker the magazine that rates Bundesliga players rated him as the 18th best defender in that 2008/2009 and the 68th best overall player Is that how you become the best in a league? Who is the 18th best defender in the EPL now? I am sure you will tell me the 18th best is actually number 1 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chic2pimp(m): 11:21pm On May 03, 2017 |
raumdeuter: Kicker Magazine? That one nah popularity contest. The groundwork showed Barza as being the best defender in a league winning team.... BEAST! raumdeuter:If ANY defender is isolated, they'll show their weaknesses as Boateng has found out quite a few times already. Isolate the pair of Baresi and Beckanbeur, let's see how they'll fair. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chic2pimp(m): 11:24pm On May 03, 2017 |
raumdeuter:Any Sikiratu,Chukwudi and mohammed can pick up a piece of paper and rank players. However the proof they say is in the punding. Was the 18th ranked EPL Defender the most Vital Defensive cog of a league winning side? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 11:33pm On May 03, 2017 |
Skimpledawg: I actually got the name from afrodoc2 . He is the originator of that name while I am just a copy cat ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon: 12:34am On May 04, 2017 |
Ibime: He was born for the break-up play, has the needed brawn to intimidate any player but the technical aspect of his game is quite suspect. His ball control is a tad poor, not top class for a pro, he exposes the ball a lot. Then his vision is on the average too. IMHO, I think his two biggest problems are maintaining composure when placed under pressure and indecision. Before he receives the ball, he doesn't have his head up. He is always looking at the ball and as result of this, he fails to analyze the field quickly. When the ball eventually gets to him, he is already lost, get two men on him and I'll bet my testicles that he'd lose the ball. That clearly played out in Juve's second goal lastnite. We don't need this nigga, he is scared of playing football. It's not always about the muscles, being technically adept matters too. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:35am On May 04, 2017 |
chic2pimp: Kicker is the most recognized in Germany and they rated Barzagli 18th among defenders Wolfsburg won the league because of their potent attack they were defensively average they conceded 1 less goal than the woeful Bayern under Klinsmann |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:40am On May 04, 2017 |
chic2pimp: any defender can look decent in community defence like Luiz Terry Cahill Barzagli even mikel played well when doing community defence under dimatteo Good defenders are known by how they perform when isolated not when the whole 6 players are bunkering 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 1:04am On May 04, 2017 |
raumdeuter: ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:43am On May 04, 2017 |
diggz: Boateng has been isolated all his career, he hardly plays in a community defence, he plays in a system which is a high line and has 40yrd of space behind him every game That was what he played to win the CL and beast the world cup final |
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