Gooooaaaaaaaallllll!!!!

Messi of God.

messi 2 1..neymar was great in d build up

Theflash98:
I will rule out Bale,pogba and delete Alli...I don't think they have it takes to win world best...I would put ousmane dembele of Dortmund and rashford

True! I think Rashford and Dembele were included.

These two are still young sha, compared to them Neymar, Hazard, Griezmann whom are like 6, 7, 8 years older than them.

Chelseafan1:


Are you missing my initial point? I said Laliga is rated higher than the Epl cos they have been the better team, dominant team in the UCL over the years, why are you telling me what o already know?

Your point was that its only Barca and madrid but thats a lie, CL Atletico in the last 5yrs have done better than all EPL teams, Sevilla in the last 5yrs of EUropa have done better than all EPL teams

So whats the point

Chelseafan1:


True! I think Rashford and Dembele were included.

These two are still young sha, compared to them Neymar, Hazard, Griezmann whom are like 6, 7, 8 years older than them.

but if those guys aren't careful,I don't think they will even 1 ballon d'or cuz it seems messi and ronaldo aren't slowing down soon

Chelseafan1:


I saw an article listing the 10 possible future Ballon d'or winners.
Neymar
Hazard
Griezmann
Dybala
Bale
Alexis
Mbappe
Pogba
Dele Alli
I am not sure Thiago was included

Future? Alexis is about the same age as Messi. So when will the future come for him, Same with Bale who is barely 2yrs younger than Messi
All those will decline around the same time as Messi

Hazard is too poor to win anything he plays like he is in kindergarten

raumdeuter:


Your point was that its only Barca and madrid but thats a lie, CL Atletico in the last 5yrs have done better than all EPL teams, Sevilla in the last 5yrs of EUropa have done better than all EPL teams

So whats the point

Add Atleti, they've been better for real.

You can't say Sevilla has been better than all EPL teams since not all of them get to play Europa.

Chelsea played in and won the Europa in 2013.

Chelsea, Man utd, Man city, Arsenal have not played in the Europa since then.

raumdeuter:


Future? Alexis is about the same age as Messi. So when will the future come for him, Same with Bale who is barely 2yrs younger than Messi
All those will decline around the same time as Messi

Hazard is too poor to win anything he plays like he is in kindergarten

He wasn't too poor to win the PFA in his league almost thrice in 5 years, remove Sanchez and Bale, you think Neymar would be the only one winning it.

Griezmann myt join Man utd

If Hazard can win the UCL with Chelsea, why won't he win the Ballon d'or?

Theflash98:
but if those guys aren't careful,I don't think they will even 1 ballon d'or cuz it seems messi and ronaldo aren't slowing down soon

Nah, those two won't reign for ever and someone has to win the award every year.

Chelseafan1:
Add Atleti, they've been better for real.
You can't say Sevilla has been better than all EPL teams since not all of them get to play Europa.
Chelsea played in and won the Europa in 2013.

Chelsea, Man utd, Man city, Arsenal have not played in the Europa since then.

In the CL La Liga teams have bossed it

In Eurpa La Liga teams have bossed it

So where can EPl match them? , If Chelsea have not played Europa since then, What of the other EPl tams that play it like Spurs Liverpool EVerton etc

Chelseafan1:


Nah, those two won't reign for ever and someone has to win the award every year.

I know..if they stop when they reach 35years old...by then neymar,hazard,Bale and co would have also reached 30 years old... so them mbappe,rasshford has better chance

raumdeuter:


In the CL La Liga teams have bossed it

In Eurpa La Liga teams have bossed it

So where can EPl match them? , If Chelsea have not played Europa since then, What of the other EPl tams that play it like Spurs Liverpool EVerton etc

Doz ones are failure na.

Chelseafan1:
He wasn't too poor to win the PFA in his league almost thrice in 5 years, remove Sanchez and Bale, you think Neymar would be the only one winning it.

Griezmann myt join Man utd

If Hazard can win the UCL with Chelsea, why won't he win the Ballon d'or?

PFA is a local competition, the competition and quality of players in the EPL is even too low to make any conclusion from it. Shebi Mahrez sef dey win PFA

Its like telling us one boy was best student in Akungba or OgunPoly(EPL), So he should be one of the best in Nigeria.

If they suspend Messi and Ronaldo from the awards, Suarez Neymar Lewandoski, Griezzman will be favorites

Theflash98:
I know..if they stop when they reach 35years old...by then neymar,hazard,Bale and co would have also reached 30 years old... so them mbappe,rasshford has better chance

Hmmmm, u have a Point but then, I doubt doz 2 will shine till 35.

E no easy o.

I believe Hazard is at the peak of his powers now, if quality players are added to Chelsea next season and he produce a good performance to mistakenly....lol, win Barca, Madrid and Bayern to the UCL... ..trust me, they'll give him.

Chelseafan1:


Doz ones are failure na.

In the competition of success La Liga dominates
In the second tier competiton, La Liga dominates

Is it until they kill you with domination before you gree

raumdeuter:


In the competition of success La Liga dominates
In the second tier competiton, La Liga dominates

Is it until they kill you with domination before you gree

Theflash98:
I will rule out Bale,pogba and delete Alli...I don't think they have it takes to win world best...I would put ousmane dembele of Dortmund and rashford

Delete Rashford abeg

Alli is the real deal bro

Chelseafan1:


Hmmmm, u have a Point but then, I doubt doz 2 will shine till 35.

E no easy o.

I believe Hazard is at the peak of his powers now, if quality players are added to Chelsea next season and he produce a good performance to mistakenly....lol, win Barca, Madrid and Bayern to the UCL... ..trust me, they'll give him.

Chelsea won the league this year and Hazard couldnt even win PFA, So you think if better players are added, they wont outshine Hidden when Kante is already outshining him

raumdeuter:


PFA is a local competition, the competition and quality of players in the EPL is even too low to make any conclusion from it. Shebi Mahrez sef dey win PFA

Its like telling us one boy was best student in Akungba or OgunPoly(EPL), So he should be one of the best in Nigeria.

If they suspend Messi and Ronaldo from the awards, Suarez Neymar Lewandoski, Griezzman will be favorites

On what basis will they win it....None of these guys would win it cos of the number of goals scored like Messi and cr7....i believe the next set of winners would have to win the UCL, league matches with reasonable amount of match - winning goals and assists.

That's why i want Hazard in Madrid or Chelsea to sign better players to replace Costa, Matic and Maybe Cahill, I'll start to rate Hazard from next season in the UCL...

His UCL reign under Mou was a disaster, for the club generally.

Chelseafan1:


On what basis will they win it....None of these guys would win it cos of the number of goals scored like Messi and cr7....i believe the next set of winners would have to win the UCL, league matches with reasonable amount of match - winning goals and assists.

After Messi and Ronaldo these are the players whose teams are likely to do well in the CL. These are the ones who have been coming close behind them in the last few years.

If Chelsea does well that means they will have gotten players better than Hazard and those new players will probably win it

His CL reign under Mourinho he got to the semi finals where Hazard and Terry let their teammates down

raumdeuter:


Chelsea won the league this year and Hazard couldnt even win PFA, So you think if better players are added, they wont outshine Hidden when Kante is already outshining him

The only reason Kante won it was that, he was a beast last season with Leicester, he came to Chelsea and did well too, it was only sensible to recognise him.

Hazard was the second best. Was actually a close contest

raumdeuter:


After Messi and Ronaldo these are the players whose teams are likely to do well in the CL. These are the ones who have been coming close behind them in the last few years.

If Chelsea does well that means they will have gotten players better than Hazard and those new players will probably win it

Till then.

Chelseafan1:
The only reason Kante won it was that, he was a beast last season with Leicester, he came to Chelsea and did well too, it was only sensible to recognise him.

Hazard was the second best. Was actually a close contest

Winning this year had nothing to do with last year

Kante won it based on this years performance ONLY

Chelseafan1:


Hmmmm, u have a Point but then, I doubt doz 2 will shine till 35.

E no easy o.

I believe Hazard is at the peak of his powers now, if quality players are added to Chelsea next season and he produce a good performance to mistakenly....lol, win Barca, Madrid and Bayern to the UCL... ..trust me, they'll give him.

Yea..sure if Chelsea win the UCL..but can you know see why neymar is suffering not being the main man cause if Barca win the UCL,they will give messi the ballon d'or not neymar

raumdeuter:
Winning this year had nothing to do with last year

Kante won it based on this years performance ONLY

Nah, Ion think so, in the history of the PFA, how many DM have won it like Kante did, while some will argue that he did well than Hazard, others will argue Hazard was better.

I am not sure Kante has more than 5 assists in the league, and he has just 1 goal against Man utd yet he won.

Someone will watch this game now and say Hazard is better than Neymar in general play?

All the attacking moves till no have been going through him with Messi playing a free role

bigkesh:

Delete Rashford abeg

Alli is the real deal bro

I don't actually can win it but I don't think also can.. the best he can get is pfa

Theflash98:
Yea..sure if Chelsea win the UCL..but can you know see why neymar is suffering not being the main man cause if Barca win the UCL,they will give messi the ballon d'or not neymar

He should move na or put in more effort, if he becomes more serious and decisive for Barça than Messi, he'll win it ahead of Messi in that Barca team.

Chelseafan1:
Nah, Ion think so, in the history of the PFA, how many DM have won it like Kante did, while some will argue that he did well than Hazard, others will argue Hazard was better.

I am not sure Kante has more than 5 assists in the league, and he has just 1 goal against Man utd yet he won.

He is a defensive midfielder, He is judged by the way he covers his defence. not his goals and assist. So maybe defenders and keepers too should be judged by goals and assists


The people that say Kante is better are more than those who said Hazard is better

raumdeuter:
Someone will watch this game now and say Hazard is better than Neymar in general play?

All the attacking moves till no have been going through him with Messi playing a free role

he just ended one Villarreal defender career now...believe me,he just need to know when to improve his goal scoring ability

raumdeuter:
Someone will watch this game now and say Hazard is better than Neymar in general play?

All the attacking moves till no have been going through him with Messi playing a free role

That is what Messi does whenever Neymar is playing, especially this season, look at the El classico, since he knew there was no Neymar, he took it upon himself to initiate all attacking moves.

raumdeuter:


He is a defensive midfielder, He is judged by the way he covers his defence. not his goals and assist. So maybe defenders and keepers too should be judged by goals and assists


The people that say Kante is better are more than those who said Hazard is better

Well, they are both Chelsea players, 1st and second still close, the fact that, Hazard was named second best outta over 2000 players in the country is enough.