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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iPopAlomo(m): 11:37am On May 18, 2017 |
Eruditor: Oga... he had six months to plan... he was announced last v year January... he had two transfer window to replace RB & LB... then a blank cheque... instead he brought in a calamity goal keeper, an inexperience defender, an injury prone midfielder, and six months into the season... a striker... Pep failed in England... simple and short... And do not being Conte into this... it's an insult to Chelshit fans... we best them 3-0 at the emirate that saw them changed their formation and turn the season around... |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Eruditor: 11:47am On May 18, 2017 |
iPopAlomo: Pep did not win anything in his first season in England. Failed is finite. Wait till his tenure is up then judge. If we judged Jupp based one season in Bayern he failed as well. Pep was tentative with his defense and rightly so. Besides he had targets but the transfers did not go through. He wanted Bellerin and Bonucci but their parent clubs did not let them go. Calm down. I have nothing against Conte. But changing a formation and changing a pattern of playing are not the same. One is harder but brings longer lasting results. I am not one to jubilate or be despondent over one season. Brendan Rodgers, Laudrup, Ranieri had one good season and got booted the next. A new formation will not make you a dynasty. Ask Carlo in CFC. 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iPopAlomo(m): 12:08pm On May 18, 2017 |
Eruditor: Pep first season in Barca... Pep first season in Bayern... Pep first season in England... Please compare and contrast... And he be like say you don dey smoke something stronger than weed... Rodgers coached Swansea, Laudrup coached Southampton and Ranieri coached Chelsea... please... don't fool yourself... all coaches/managers within the capacity of their clubs never disappointed in the first season... you think say I no dey watch football nii... I don't know where Laudrup is... but Rodgers moved on to win the Scottish premier league, Ranieri followed suit... Pep... coming in with one of the strongest sides in the premiership still struggled to make top 4... even him... can't blame his misfortune in England on his aging RB & LB... 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by raumdeuter: 12:38pm On May 18, 2017 |
iPopAlomo: Do Juventus and Milan play In EPL? I Italy they play more tactical |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iPopAlomo(m): 12:41pm On May 18, 2017 |
raumdeuter: And England... they play more technical...
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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by raumdeuter: 12:41pm On May 18, 2017 |
sod09: Racist? Jesus Sane Sterling Fernandinho Sagna clichy who played regularly for him are which race? Those are the type of statements you make when you've lost an argument |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by raumdeuter: 12:44pm On May 18, 2017 |
iPopAlomo: EPL is more physical more strenght than sense and this favors youth |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by sod09(m): 12:45pm On May 18, 2017 |
raumdeuter:these are europeans and americans what happened to kelechi,etoo,keita and yaya how many african players did he have at bayern? what future did kelechi and yaya have with city at the moment oh u agreed he is a sore loser and coward,we getting there gradually 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by raumdeuter: 12:52pm On May 18, 2017 |
sod09: What a poor argument. Pep likes non African blacks but hates African blacks. Is the color black of African different from the black of European? Sagna is darker in complexion than etoo Keita and Iheanacho joined together Aguero has no future at city, thru means he hates Argentine Joe Hart has no future at city that means he hates English players How many African blacks are currently at arsenal At Bayern Boateng Alaba Coman Costa were blacks that played under him These are the type of sentiments we hear when someone has lost an argument. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by sod09(m): 1:09pm On May 18, 2017 |
raumdeuter:wat are you saying oga dayo i asked you how many african players did papa ajasco used in bayern |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 1:14pm On May 18, 2017 |
How much assnal buy xhaka self.The guy day play like say na 89m |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by raumdeuter: 2:14pm On May 18, 2017 |
sod09:Benatia is from Morroco. He bought him for Bayern Before Guardiola how many African players did Juup use, How many did Carlo use. In current Barcelona how many African players are there, In Madrid how many African players do they use? |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Eruditor: 2:30pm On May 18, 2017 |
iPopAlomo: You are now mentioning Barca and Bayern yet the same you said anybody would have won trophies with those teams. Stop OVER glorifying trophies judge things critically. Poch and Klopp have won nothing but you and Spy praise them for having good seasons even though LFC played Carling Cup and Europa finals last time and nothing this season. United won Carling and may win Europa but you still troll them by showing them they regressed from 5th of last season to sixth - Because they were boring and drew a lot of games. In the same way, judge City from their big game performances, chances created and prospects for a new season not just based on trophies. As per Brendan (almost won a league 13/14) flopped hard the next year. Laudrup won Carling Cup with Swansea and flopped hard the next year. Ranieri won the EPL and flopped hard the next year. Carlo Ancelotti did the double and flopped hard the next year. Don't. Judge. A. Manager. Over. One. Season. One of the strongest sides? Yes. Which means there are others. Also, factor injuries into how things went. They missed Kompany, Gab Jesus, Gundögan etc at key times. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by sod09(m): 2:40pm On May 18, 2017 |
raumdeuter:you dont die easily do you always looking for excuses by comparing and contrasting. i say guardiola is a racist you dragging other teams and coaches inside |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by raumdeuter: 2:49pm On May 18, 2017 |
sod09: Someone used black players like Boateng Alaba Costa Coman, Jesus, Fernandinho, Kompany, CLichy, Sagna Sane Yaya you say it must be African he bought Benatia You no satisfy. I askd you how many Africans dey Barca Madrid Atletico, How many Africans did Van Gaal, Juup and Ancelotti use at the same Bayern That is to show how illogical that line of reasoning is Jose didnt use Asians he is also racist |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 2:55pm On May 18, 2017 |
Eruditor:All these stories hold no excuse whatsoever. I mean he is Pep Guardiola isn't he? He just has to win with his record + hype. This was what the pundits said before a ball was kicked this season... http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37040156 17 out of 33 said City would win, their only reason was Pep. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by sod09(m): 3:04pm On May 18, 2017 |
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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 3:28pm On May 18, 2017 |
Eruditor:Lets start with Conte. Changing formation is a broader way of changing pattern of play. Conte did not just change formation or pattern but also players. He dropped Iva, moves Apsi to CB, introduced Moses, and moved Hazard to CAM. He won the league from there on. Bellerin and Bonnuci? Must Pep buy other clubs stars to build his own to win? He could as well buy the entire Chelsea squad so as to win the league. Lame. Unless you want to classify Pep with the likes of Rodgers, Laudrup and Ranieri, DON'T EVER MENTION THEM AGAIN. To your first question. For me and every other football fan, Pep's first season is a failure, and rightly so. Pelligrini didn't get the sack for Pep to come and have a free season. Pep came to do what Pellegrini couldn't do- win a treble, 'just as he as aclaimed to have always done'. Pep is a fraud. Case closed. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Eruditor: 3:58pm On May 18, 2017 |
Spy360: You are trying too hard. Changing formation has nothing to do with pattern of play. Arsenal recently picked up 3-5-2 and 3-4-3 but don't play like Chelsea or Juve. Barca have used 3-4-3 even since Pep's days and they don't play like Chelsea. Mou built that team as a defend first option and that was the foundation Conte built on. That's one. Conte moved A here and B there. That is not just moot but superficial. When he moved Ake and John Terry against Watford did they not leak like a faulty tap? Yes, because personnel matters. If CFC had damning injuries and were forced to use Iva as RB they would have suffered in some games and it would not all be Conte's fault. That's how to be objective. LOL. Bellerin is a star? And David Luiz, Batshuayi and Alonso were not stars for their former clubs? Why you dey talk like pikin? I mentioned those managers to show you a successful term is not based on one stint. Heck, RDM had resigned after winning the UCL and he would have been compared with Pep but TIME, TIME is what exposed him as a dud. Pep's first season he did not win a title in England. To fail, he would have to end his tenure there today. If he does not and goes on to coach for subsequent seasons we would judge him a failure based on the integration of all his seasons put together. Pep came to change the City footballing culture, playing style, dominance and team. City want to become a juggernaut not some has been like AFC. If he had done everything in one season you are the same person that would have said he did nothing but inherit a good team bla bla - after all, you are saying it about his time in Barca. If he is a fraud, he is a better fraud than Wenger. Case closed. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Eruditor: 4:02pm On May 18, 2017 |
Spy360: The Pundits don't know anything but you do. And you would always be right because you make your own analysis based on a result you have already seen. But hardworking Pundits have to project. God punish them for being wrong. All hail Wenger. 3rd best manager according to you behind only Conte and Poch. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iPopAlomo(m): 4:56pm On May 18, 2017 |
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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iPopAlomo(m): 4:57pm On May 18, 2017 |
raumdeuter: Benatia isn't technically black... Pep don't like Black African players... not Arab Africans... Black Africans... |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by raumdeuter: 5:22pm On May 18, 2017 |
iPopAlomo: Lol this is hilarious. How many black Africans dey Madrid, Barcelona Arsenal Atletico etc How many black Africans dey Bayern before Pep came and How many black Africans dey Bayern after Pep has gone |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iPopAlomo(m): 5:25pm On May 18, 2017 |
raumdeuter: Talk about Pep... how many are in his team...?!!! And as for Arsenal... we get them before... |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by raumdeuter: 5:28pm On May 18, 2017 |
iPopAlomo: I get am before na property? Pep too had Etoo Keita and Yaya etc before. WHy should it be only Pep show us if other clubs have it so that we will know say Pep hates unless you wan say Enrique, Zidane Juup, Ancelotti, Simeone Wenger(currently) all hate black players who are playing for African countries |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 5:28pm On May 18, 2017 |
Eruditor: Lets suspend the Pep issue for now and talk about the emboldened. Like I said, a change of formation is a broader change that also covers pattern of play. Style is quite a different issue which I feel you mean when you compared Arsenal's 3-4-3 to 4-2-3-1. We changed formations and patterns but not style. ............................ Formation- from 4-2-3-1 to 3-6-1 Pattern- from overlapping FBs to WBs, Sanchez joins Ozil in CAM (sometimes joins the CF). Style- same; attacking based on passing and movement, more technical than physical. Cc Roland17, Ipopalomo, Raumdueter |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 5:32pm On May 18, 2017 |
Eruditor:So with all those expectations you claim he didn't fail? That was over 50% of pundits losing their bets over one man's head. Yet Pep didn't fail. Kontinu... 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 9:48pm On May 18, 2017 |
raumdeuter:Kane and son says hi.. with all ur bench boost, I dash you the -16 points put final baby!!!! |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by purplekayc(m): 8:08am On May 19, 2017 |
This table is really tight Seems Watford and Middlesbrough hold arsenal's fate
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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by MrDojo(m): 12:10pm On May 19, 2017 |
Na wa ooo..... una nor dey tire 4 pep mata? He had a bad season no body should deceive him/her self... but he knw he'll spend crazy to rectify the failure that is this season.... a manager does not spend over £250M to come 3rd and its nt considered a failure. .... Can't wait to see arsenal in europa next season |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 1:40pm On May 19, 2017 |
MrDojo:Why are you anxious to see Arsenal in Europa? |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 3:23pm On May 19, 2017 |
The kettle is black, but you too are black Mr Adams. Granada need you not Arsenal. |
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