elot:
During the delay, the wallet keeps rolling moy that i dont have the login details. We have yo wait for tge transaction to be concluded by blockchain otherwise, notjing can be done, so full acccess was allowed by blockchain after the money has been successfully removed, meanshile. I cannot see this since yhere is no full access from my end,we were monitoring the transactiin through him like i said earlier, so i tried login in again yesterdsy ehrn he told me it has left his account.quote author=mesmer post=56852064]
Oh please! Spare us the BS ... You couldn't login into the wallet during the delayed confirmation problem but suddenly after initialize told you the coins have been reversed, suddenly you could successfully login to the said wallet. What a "miracle " to assertain there is only $4 in the said wallet. I'm not calling you a liar but you need a better convincing to do.
why did you provide Tabbaz a login details that doesn't contain the said transaction and let him verify it himself? My point is, kindly provide him the login details of the real wallet that the transaction was made from and let him see for himself if there is a problem login into the wallet or not. That way you can proof it to the house that you really are clean not by providing him a different wallet instead. Just airing my thought. Peace.

mesmer:
@elot after all said and done but you still didn't answer my question which is, "why did you provide Tabbaz a login details that doesn't contain the said transaction in question? You answer is because you couldn't login into it right? "
Then send him the real login details that contained the transaction I.d in question and let him verify the transaction out. It's as simple as that. Abi problem dey that one?

elot:

That was the wallet I gave Tabbaz, and the last transaction with Initialize was there, but the one that has problem has been deleted from the history, he was even the one that has the hash of the transaction. And has been monitoring it from his end, but after a while, he said it's been deleted off bitcoin network that money will be reversed soon, the group members can testify to this, and truly when he called me that the transaction is no more appearing In his wallet history, that I should try to log in into my wallet to see that it has been reversed, and I tried and was able to but the transaction has been erased like he said, only the one he bought like 35 minutes b4 the last one was on the history if the wallet that I have Tabbaz

mesmer:

I don't know of the the deleted part of the transaction if that is possible on the blockchain... I may be wrong though. I was yapping on that cus Tabbaz stated that he couldn't see the same transaction in question.
Whichever way it's, business ethics is important and you ought to have done what's right by sending him the Bitcoin worth as at the time of reversal cus if he has his money earlier, he would have bought the Bitcoin from another person and he would have made some real dough on the coins due to massive appreciation of Bitcoin these past couple of days.

elot:

Bit I just told i that there was no bitcoin reversal back to my wallet, and the transaction was only deleted.
He has the transaction screenshot on his phone , he can compare with the wallet I gave to Tabbaz, it's simple, atleast the transaction screenshot that he has with him contain the the wallet where bitcoin was sent from, u all can confirm that from him

elot:


See, initialize is just a troublesome person, he is one of my regular buyers and he is the only one that is always calling me out here, no stress anyway, the story is this:
He bought that said amount actually but we all know how blockchain is with their double spend palava, and immediately he paid, i sent him Bitcoin, but he called my attention to the transaction that it's showing double spent( which means that I must have sold that particular amount unknowingly) it's a very simple thing that when this occur, blockchain will hold the wallet and transaction may not be able to take place on such wallet until that excess amount that was overspent during their network issue is removed/reversed back to them,
We were both monitoring it through him because the wallet was held and I cannot use it , when I log in into it, it keeps rolling without showing any balance nor history, so it's not usable.
Then, I quickly created another wallet in other to continue business, and myself and Initialize has transacted several times after that, pending the success of the delayed transaction.
Until yesterday morning when he called to let me know that the transaction has been reversed and that I should send the BTC back with yielded profit, then I checked if I can access the balance on the wallet which was successful, but only to meet a $4 balance and all excess has been removed, and the last transaction on the wallet was the day that the thing happened, then, nothing else can be done than to refund him , but he said that I have made profits from his money that I should pay him by bitcoin, then I said to him that, there was no bitcoin in the wallet to be sold or funded, he started his normal call for group and Nairaland support,
I have no other way to proof to him than to send the wallet details to Tabbaz to see for himself if any reversal waa made to the wallet or if the wallet has been used after that day and Tabbaz checked and told us all that no reversal and no transaction occurred in the wallet.Had it been there was a reversal of coin back to the wallet, why won't I sell it to him?, but the balance was $4, NO REVERSAL, ONLY DOUBLE SPENT WAS REMOVED
I think that should settle the case, then I did the calculation with him back door, then refunded him immediately, though he still insist I should not Send back naira that he needs that value of coin, but I told him no reversal was made back to the wallet, therefore, there is no way I can send him Bitcoin. Fine, I maybe at fault by sending a double spend but not 100% my fault, if I didn't see such available as balance in my wallet, I won't sell,.
Issues like this has happened between many members here but they do settle it amicable without calling anybody out, but Initialize is found of calling me out and many pple here knows it in the group, that has been his ways anyway, am not surprised and few minutes after he must have regained himself back, he will call me back door to arrest situation and we always move on, this one is just one of those days and it's nothing serious to me because, I see it as a foretold attack .
Initialize remain my brother, I have refunded him his naira value without delay, so businesses continues.

Meanwhile, yesterday was so busy for me, had to complete a task that's why I could not come online to do this.
Thanks to u all for ur time
God bless
Elot

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elot:

That was the wallet I gave Tabbaz, and the last transaction with Initialize was there, but the one that has problem has been deleted from the history, he was even the one that has the hash of the transaction. And has been monitoring it from his end, but after a while, he said it's been deleted off bitcoin network that money will be reversed soon, the group members can testify to this, and truly when he called me that the transaction is no more appearing In his wallet history, that I should try to log in into my wallet to see that it has been reversed, and I tried and was able to but the transaction has been erased like he said, only the one he bought like 35 minutes b4 the last one was on the history if the wallet that I have Tabbaz

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Tabbaz:


oh..ok. it means I got you wrong when you said you could not login. I thought the wallet where the transaction was done is still not accessible

Ok fine. we have plenty gurus in the house that will enlighten us

If there is double spent and the transaction is removed from the wallet history. will there be a trace of the transaction in the wallet at all?

make gurus in the house epp us with the answer as this is the only thing that may clean ELOT off this poo to some extent

legalwealth:


Do you still need Payoneer fund?

Singapore1:

Same here
My landlord has been giving me one kind look
He's like "this yahoo boy, you no go pay abi"

djlaqua91:


I have come across a case like this. The transaction evidence was completely wiped off from the wallet history.

NB: not taking sides cos Elot still F up though

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elot:


See, initialize is just a troublesome person, he is one of my regular buyers and he is the only one that is always calling me out here, no stress anyway, the story is this:
He bought that said amount actually but we all know how blockchain is with their double spend palava, and immediately he paid, i sent him Bitcoin, but he called my attention to the transaction that it's showing double spent( which means that I must have sold that particular amount unknowingly) it's a very simple thing that when this occur, blockchain will hold the wallet and transaction may not be able to take place on such wallet until that excess amount that was overspent during their network issue is removed/reversed back to them,
We were both monitoring it through him because the wallet was held and I cannot use it , when I log in into it, it keeps rolling without showing any balance nor history, so it's not usable.
Then, I quickly created another wallet in other to continue business, and myself and Initialize has transacted several times after that, pending the success of the delayed transaction.
Until yesterday morning when he called to let me know that the transaction has been reversed and that I should send the BTC back with yielded profit, then I checked if I can access the balance on the wallet which was successful, but only to meet a $4 balance and all excess has been removed, and the last transaction on the wallet was the day that the thing happened, then, nothing else can be done than to refund him , but he said that I have made profits from his money that I should pay him by bitcoin, then I said to him that, there was no bitcoin in the wallet to be sold or funded, he started his normal call for group and Nairaland support,
I have no other way to proof to him than to send the wallet details to Tabbaz to see for himself if any reversal waa made to the wallet or if the wallet has been used after that day and Tabbaz checked and told us all that no reversal and no transaction occurred in the wallet.Had it been there was a reversal of coin back to the wallet, why won't I sell it to him?, but the balance was $4, NO REVERSAL, ONLY DOUBLE SPENT WAS REMOVED
I think that should settle the case, then I did the calculation with him back door, then refunded him immediately, though he still insist I should not Send back naira that he needs that value of coin, but I told him no reversal was made back to the wallet, therefore, there is no way I can send him Bitcoin. Fine, I maybe at fault by sending a double spend but not 100% my fault, if I didn't see such available as balance in my wallet, I won't sell,.
Issues like this has happened between many members here but they do settle it amicable without calling anybody out, but Initialize is found of calling me out and many pple here knows it in the group, that has been his ways anyway, am not surprised and few minutes after he must have regained himself back, he will call me back door to arrest situation and we always move on, this one is just one of those days and it's nothing serious to me because, I see it as a foretold attack .
Initialize remain my brother, I have refunded him his naira value without delay, so businesses continues.

Meanwhile, yesterday was so busy for me, had to complete a task that's why I could not come online to do this.
Thanks to u all for ur time
God bless
Elot

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Tabbaz:


chai! blockchain no dey try on that aspect then..they suppose to show when it went out, and when they remove it due to double spent. I guess that's another aspect their programmer need to look at

chiefkpokp:


you had admitted to your fault on the (blue Text)
The bolded states that you both did calculations behind closed doors, and you refunded him back his naira, even tho he rejected the naira.

[b]If am to judge, I will only sentence him for his fault only

this case is like, you paid someone 32000naira for 100$ to be sent @320/$ rate, and along the way the 100$ got trapped for days, and its got reversed back, at the time $rate has increased to 400/$, since the both party monitors the progress of the funds, and the sender decided not to go on with the deal, but wants to refunds... would its be wise to refund the exact amount (32000naira) that was paid to him, and then if there is need for him(sender) to compensate for the inconvinience its may cause?

on the other hand,if the $rate had decreased to 220/$, at the time of reverser, will the receiver accept refunds of 22000naira as agaiinst 32000naira?

If i were you elot, at the time of this refund, I would have ganish the refund with some $$$ or Naira for inconveniences....