Nok234:

http://www.ibtimes.com/russian-defense-manufacturer-ready-export-armata-tank-foreign-buyers-2096923
http://www.realclearworld.com/blog/2015/07/who_wants_to_buy_russias_new_tank_111328.html
http://tass.com/defense/842938
http://www.african-defense.com/defense-news/algeria-and-russias-long-and-continuing-military-cooperation/

Countries already expressing interest on the Armata are China, India, and Algeria.
Russia says export will begin in 2020
And you guys with your "juju of the futur" that never works, tanks Nigeria need tanks more than ever. We all now the moment the T-72 came the war against Boko Haram (that no one predicted ) had change. The Armata is build for the two convetional and unconventional warfare. It will save money to have 2 in 1. Everybody is going for multirole platform it is more cheaper to have something that makes many stuff alone.
Why the Armata because our soldier will be safe, more safe than in a T 90, they will be more motivated.
Like I said Armata is build for almost every scenario, more protection against ATGM, making it very obsolete.
For the export thing Russia will be more than willing if we have a good deal with them. I study geopolitics, and I can tell you with confidence Russia has everything to win and are more than willing to be close friends with us. I can back up evrrything I say with sources. It will take time and we are going to go off topic...

jln115:
maybe I'm blind but I don't see anybody waving..............never mind, found him

jln115:
Hope you meant the tank is becoming obsolete, since all relatively modern atgms will penetrate the Armata.

bidexiii:


we rather go for T-90S & IFV both wheeled and tracked (3rd gen equipment)

jln115:
Hope you meant the tank is becoming obsolete, since all relatively modern atgms will penetrate the Armata.

Nok234:

No infact Im talking about ATMG, With technologies like Active Protection System & Passive Protection system there are no miracle weapon in war even a Knife can kill ... But a prefere a tank than a Atmg in nearly any situation. And more Armata could shoot missiles too, it has a Radar lol the radar found in the t-50 a f...k.. AESA Radar this thing is not a tank... Is the futur !

Nok234:

https://m.youtube.com/?reload=7&rdm=2lre5x2fn#/watch?v=kedBlURaRaE
British Army on tanks And how to Be prepared for futur conflict a country that will loose one capability over another is very supid ... We have to be more multirole and have at least the capability to respond effectively against any type of scenario. Money is not something that stay when you have some buy something that will be useful for a long time and standardise the more than you can.
I said why I think Armata will be our best choice first it is nearly at the same price as T90 and by far more capable in conventional and unconventional warfare, T90 didnt scared the Abrams and the US military wanted to only upgrade it until the Armata ... Armata today is forcing all the western world to build new tanks the US will build they new tank with Germany and maybe france... And for everybody to understand why am I saying this is that for me the biggest treat to Nigeria is another proxy war that will involve superpower (France) I said it period ! Maybe big economies wont fight each other because they will be mutualy treaten but Nigeria is not a superpower yet and any big country can do something without fearing to be hit by us.
Armata will be up to date for much years than T90.

jln115:

I didn't say Tanks are obsolete(yet) but ATGMs certainly the much better investment, firstly even the best APS can't deploy vertically thus any atgm fired from either a steep hill,mountain or aircraft your fvcked, not to mention APSs are susceptible to clutter so when you are in a mountainess or Forrest terrain your fvcked.

So yeah ATGMs are a much better bet.

nemesis2u:


what is the guy doing in the 6th pic

the guy near to the AC

Nok234:

Ok I think that we are on the same subject, what im saying is that the edge ATGM had on tanks has reduce with passive/active PS but ATGM like you said are very good. (I havnt said ATGM are obsolet to but are less effective or maybe going to be obsolet against modern day tanks ). An example is with Trophy on the Merkava. No tanks were damaged during Operation Protective Edge, with the Trophy Active Protection system performing over a dozen interceptions of anti-tank weapons including Kornet, Metis and RPG-29.
For sure ATGM are very used, build it in the country will be a better investment than buy it from another country. Why I want a tank because it is more easy to buy a ATGM during a heavy fight than buy a tank when you are under fire. Im not expert in military thats why I listen to experts and they basicly all agree attack is the best defense.
And in APS Russians has the lead they are the first to devolp it and say that the APS used on Armata is the best in the world...

ssaengine:
continued...

IbnSultaan:
most NASF don't like that cool n prefer the black CT gears

jakeporeshenko:
MRAPs and light armored vehicles recently purchased by the MOD for the Nigerian armed forces.
NA now has 5 types of MRAPs, i honestly wonder what these guys are thinking, throw in the ARA from pro Force and that's 6.

lionel4power:


Its simply because there's no procurement policies involved, thats why i keep saying i don't think there's a clear master plan in place for our military. To be frank anybody can buy whatever they feel like and dump. I pity the the NA for the day they'll need the spares for all those numerous armored vehicles in their inventory.

Whenever the military does any display all you'll see is just mismatched random systems everywhere with little or no similarity. I keep wondering if they think winning wars is about having a trillion different platforms. two MRAP type is enough, two APC type is enough, Two MBT type is enough, two IFV type is enough its simple common sense, Any way thats Nigeria for you.

jakeporeshenko:
MRAPs and light armored vehicles recently purchased by the MOD for the Nigerian armed forces.
NA now has 5 types of MRAPs, i honestly wonder what these guys are thinking, throw in the ARA from pro Force and that's 6.

jakeporeshenko:
In an interview with the Nigerian Chief of naval staff by M&P

Journalist :The NNS Aradu has been lying alongside inactive for over two years now. Are there any plans to return the ship to operational capacity?



"Certainly it is not our desire to have our ships lie alongside. Like the question that was earlier put to me; [b]is the provision in the budget enough to enable the navy go to sea? To refit Aradu, the nation will need over $250 million and that is not what the navy can afford for no[/b]w. We desire to have the ship at sea but as soon as the navy is properly funded and we are able to refit the vessel, of course we would readily put her back at sea. "

http://marineandpetroleum.com/content/2017-budget-cant-take-navy-sea-chief-naval-staff

jakeporeshenko:
MRAPs and light armored vehicles recently purchased by the MOD for the Nigerian armed forces.
NA now has 5 types of MRAPs, i honestly wonder what these guys are thinking, throw in the ARA from pro Force and that's 6.

Nok234:

http://www.ibtimes.com/russian-defense-manufacturer-ready-export-armata-tank-foreign-buyers-2096923
http://www.realclearworld.com/blog/2015/07/who_wants_to_buy_russias_new_tank_111328.html
http://tass.com/defense/842938
http://www.african-defense.com/defense-news/algeria-and-russias-long-and-continuing-military-cooperation/

Countries already expressing interest on the Armata are China, India, and Algeria.
Russia says export will begin in 2020
And you guys with your "juju of the futur" that never works, tanks Nigeria need tanks more than ever. We all now the moment the T-72 came the war against Boko Haram (that no one predicted ) had change. The Armata is build for the two convetional and unconventional warfare. It will save money to have 2 in 1. Everybody is going for multirole platform it is more cheaper to have something that makes many stuff alone.
Why the Armata because our soldier will be safe, more safe than in a T 90, they will be more motivated.
Like I said Armata is build for almost every scenario, more protection against ATGM, making it very obsolete.
For the export thing Russia will be more than willing if we have a good deal with them. I study geopolitics, and I can tell you with confidence Russia has everything to win and are more than willing to be close friends with us. I can back up evrrything I say with sources. It will take time and we are going to go off topic...

lionel4power:


Its simply because there's no procurement policies involved, thats why i keep saying i don't think there's a clear master plan in place for our military. To be frank anybody can buy whatever they feel like and dump. I pity the the NA for the day they'll need the spares for all those numerous armored vehicles in their inventory.

Whenever the military does any display all you'll see is just mismatched random systems everywhere with little or no similarity. I keep wondering if they think winning wars is about having a trillion different platforms. two MRAP type is enough, two APC type is enough, Two MBT type is enough, two IFV type is enough its simple common sense, Any way thats Nigeria for you.

Henry240:


Streit group have a servicing office in Nigeria. That's a very good advantage for us.

The other MRAPs from the US are donated, besides only 25 units, this is also not a problem.

Reva MRAP, we have 47 units primarily used by AFSF, a unit funded by ONSA not the Army.

CS/VP3, 120 units, Nigerian army.

Proforce ARA is not yet in service, besides that's a Nigerian company.

I'm not saying it's great, i'm not saying its bad either, all I'm saying is we are getting 177 new MRAPs, that's a good thing.

tdayof:


I still prefer having numerous aircrafts but we keep having numerous types of what we can produce in Nigeria. Let NA put up for 50 Units of ARA and you'll see Proforce increase production pace.

lionel4power:
this is not WWII where officers were still discovery what works and what doesn't.

this is 2017, the world already knows whats best so no need trying to rediscover what is best for a country. As simple as a google search can give anybody the best idea on how to effectively manage a military force. (not lime am trying to belittle their efforts). but in this day and age there are companies out there that will develop any weapon system that is tailor made uniquely for you alone.

if the ARA is good enough why not just use it to replace all other MRAP? Look at other developed countries you'll see that they have just one or two platform not in multitude.

all this redundant equipment is more of a headache than benefits.

fit example when Myamar bought the BTR 4 they purchased 1000 units In one go in 2014 so imagine the logistical simplicity.

I know in Nigeria we have multiple terrain feature geographically but atleasg two types should fill the gall. maybe one tracked for the southern part and one wheeled for the desert like north.

Henry240:


Streit group have a servicing office in Nigeria. That's a very good advantage for us.

The other MRAPs from the US are donated, besides only 25 units, this is also not a problem.

Reva MRAP, we have 47 units primarily used by AFSF, a unit funded by ONSA not the Army.

CS/VP3, 120 units, Nigerian army.

Proforce ARA is not yet in service, besides that's a Nigerian company.

I'm not saying it's great, i'm not saying its bad either, all I'm saying is we are getting 177 new MRAPs, that's a good thing.

patches689:


You need a centralized procurement office.

This seems to me like inter-staff (General v General) and inter-service (Navy, Army, Aifroce) d1ck measuring

Before new tanks, IFV's, jets or the like... it needs to be more talk of "what caliber will we all use?" then "what rifle will we all use?" then "how will we transport munitions?" then "what trucks best suit our needs?" and so on and so forth until Nigeria has one general service rifle (one specific type of AK, not just the AK family), one series of LMG, one series of HMG, one series of light/medium/heavy trucks, one light and one medium series of MRAP's, one light and one medium series of IFV's, one MBT, one 155mm gun, one MRLS etc etc etc

You have to build "the system" that is your army or else the individual components (like say, a T90) would be useless.

Sorry if I sound preachy, thats not my intention.