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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 1:59pm On Jun 03, 2017 |
eterisan:I doubt Musa had this in mind when he replaced his old firewood with a new one, and majority here seemed to agree the new firewood was performing wonders. Maybe the new firewood will catch against SA like the wonders this new one in Musa's life is doing for him |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:01pm On Jun 03, 2017 |
komekn: Is it difficult for people to understand what you are saying? There seems to be some magogo in the team selections. If he is playing regularly or if he is a bench warmer of bigger clubs that I can understand but calling Osimhen na arrange. I have begining to understand how selection plays. They call their preferred player even if na bench warmer and bring him to the National team to increace their stock while they ignore the inform players until their club throway dem because of lack of market value of the said player. The club expects you to be called to the national team to increase your stock and sell you for a big prize but no coach looks ya way hence the need to kick you out for a more valuable player. ![]() I can mention plenty players in the National team that were nothing before their stock were raised as a result of being a National team player. ![]() They use the national team to promote some players and na wetin dem wan do for Osinhem. ![]() Later dem go comdemn the once wey no use national team better dem life. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 2:02pm On Jun 03, 2017 |
Humility017:Iwobi appears to be the kind of player that needs a lot of affirmation. You know he has some show man streak in him and nothing kills a show man than negative vibes. He needs loads and loads of encouragement. I like the young man. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by eterisan(m): 2:03pm On Jun 03, 2017 |
Mujtahida:whether you are a young player or experienced you only take to the pitch if you are better than the guy you are benching nd/or if the coach trusts you to deliver with regards to tactics and game plan..this is what nacho currently lacks at city ..he is not better than those ahead of him nd doesnt fit in tactically with pep hence no trust..now my question is..is awaziem better than omeruo? Does the coach trust him more than omeruo? Can he deliver tactically nd implement the game plan better than omeruo against sa? If 2 out of those 3 questions gives a yes then he will start else he won't.. cc. Sir Icons4s, TheGoodJoe, forgiveness 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by eterisan(m): 2:05pm On Jun 03, 2017 |
safarigirl:hhahhahhahahhaha...safarigirl you nor go kill me with laugh...hahhahhahahhahhhahhaha..he get some kain positions wey the new fire go need learn to take..if u bring the old one come now no stress he go deliver but the new fire need time to learn d pattern....*covers face* chai |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:06pm On Jun 03, 2017 |
You are the gold fish in my aquarium goldfish80: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:10pm On Jun 03, 2017 |
Not Rohr's Super Eagles forgiveness: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:16pm On Jun 03, 2017 |
Honestly I've been thinking Musa's demotion even from his sub status was long overdue. But Rohr have been keeping faith in him with invitations. Only Rohr knows why. Musa has proved he still has something in him. He will play against South Africa. His new wife has nothing to do with it. But Wahala for house fit affect player if the player is the kind when no fit put behind home matter when he dey go work. Make we no judge he family matter. All we hear Na dem say. safarigirl: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:17pm On Jun 03, 2017 |
komekn: Obaobona has offended the godfathers. ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:19pm On Jun 03, 2017 |
Agu may be the joker. If he clearly outshines Onazi in camp, Rohr won't hesitate to start him. TheGoodJoe: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:22pm On Jun 03, 2017 |
I respect your approach in this argument TheGoodJoe: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 2:24pm On Jun 03, 2017 |
eterisan:Good questions. The questions can only be answered based on a TEST. Training Camp is the test because even if you have your players doing wonders at club level, I know even you would be opposed to a player walking into a match day squad without being assessed in camp. Granted Omeruo was not part of the recent training camp in France so one cannot gauge as between two of them who outperformed the other but Omeruo has this knack for making mistakes(the same south Africans skinned him and recently you saw the mistake he made in Zambia. If it were Balogun nobody would clamour for Awaziem. The fact that we are even having this debate shows how much he's fallen down the pecking order. Awaziem had good a good showing both in camp and the matches played. Omeruo can start but our hearts will be in our mouths but I'd prefer Awaziem so that he can start gathering the experience now. *modified : they still have five more days before the match to train in Nigeria. Rohr will most likely start Omeruo but unless he ups his game Awaziem is breathing down his neck. My joy is that competition is becoming fierce and only the best like cream will rise to the top. 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:26pm On Jun 03, 2017 |
eterisan: Has Omeruo been deployed on that role by Rohr? I dont thing so. What does that mean? Let me see if anyone will counter this my point. ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:27pm On Jun 03, 2017 |
So you will start an out of form Iwobi ahead of an in-form Moses Simon as Left Winger? I'm using Iwobi as an example because we have seen him in that state in the recent past. AIG07: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by eterisan(m): 2:30pm On Jun 03, 2017 |
Mujtahida:Nice reply but please can you answer the 3 questions separately let us see which u gave a yes? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:31pm On Jun 03, 2017 |
Omeruo. Two pictures here. I have seen him show glimpses of a pure central defender in some occasions and a limited defender in other occasions. Never a ball playing defender. Again it's not set in stone. The question is which role can they play best? vickylincon: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 2:32pm On Jun 03, 2017 |
forgiveness:Which position has Omeruo not played in the backline except the left back? The position being debated here is the center back ie who partners Ekong? 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by eterisan(m): 2:35pm On Jun 03, 2017 |
forgiveness:zambia away omeruo started at cb..rb..ever since...but since we have ebuehi and shehu..I do not think he is in contention for the rb slot..cb...its him against awaziem...if he loses his spot against awaziem in the absence of balogun then that means he is declining and personally I do not see that..not yet |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 2:36pm On Jun 03, 2017 |
forgiveness: First of all, I want you to name those 'better players' that have not yet been invited and We would gladly recommend them to Rohr and his coaching crew if truly they are better than the player(s) you want them to replace. Concerning the issue of replacement are you telling me that for the current Eagles team we don't have at least 2 or 3 players per position? Victor Moses, Leon Balogun and Mikel Obi who are 3 regulars are out and we are not even crying over it because we have capable replacements. Also that team is so dynamic such that most of those players are capable of playing at least 2 positions. Any of Etebo, Iwobi, Moses, Musa, Success, Simon, Onyekuru can play each other's positions fairly comfortably. Injury to any 2 or 3 and we still have a pool to pick replacements from. Our midfield boast of Mikel, Onazi, Ndidi, Shehu, Agu, Ogu and sometimes Etebo. What of the defense? Even in Balogun's absence we still have 3 good CBs in Ekong, Omeruo and Awaziem. Recall also that Ndidi can also play CB. Echiejile, Shehu, Ebuehi, Madu and the newly invited Yousef are there as wing backs. I am not saying this team is there yet but the fact remains that we are gradually getting there. If there is any player the coaches feel can add quality to the team they will invite. And if your favorite players are not there,of which I know is the main reason for this your clamour for back ups, let them keep working hard they may get their chances one day. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:39pm On Jun 03, 2017 |
komekn: Well, opinions differ, so is mine to this statement. Dominic is going to Liverpool while Tega to Newcastle. Currently, Solanke is the backbone of the U20 England team. ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 2:41pm On Jun 03, 2017 |
Joebie: Little wonder you'll prefer Awaziem over Omeruo. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by eterisan(m): 2:43pm On Jun 03, 2017 |
Joebie:Sorry for jumping into your quote, but I am glad to inform your that omeruo has played midfield this season for his team..you do not play midfield if you cannot pass the ball..so add ball playing defender to his attributes and he becomes an all rounder..just little mistakes here and there..you know rough edges.. Cut the guy some slack..he is our most capped central defender right now..most experienced central defender in the national team..longest serving central defender in the national..most successful central defender right now..*afcon* if not for injury and little errors ekong and balogun wouldn't have been ahead of him. That we are even having this debate na falling hand for omeruo. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 2:44pm On Jun 03, 2017 |
eterisan:I have modified my first reply. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 2:44pm On Jun 03, 2017 |
eterisan: Thank you my brother. The thing is there are too much sentiments here. They just like this player(s) and dislike the other(s) |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Dedebanky85: 2:45pm On Jun 03, 2017 |
Every National team selection has a pattern. Coaches don't just bench existing players merely because a new entrant is in-form. France played a friendly yesterday and Giroud still started ahead of Mbappe and Lacazette. In terms of National teams chemistry is very limited due to shorter training camps. So coaches tend to stick with existing starting 11. That's why I know I can confidently select my 11 for June10. Akpeyi; Shehe RB, Elderson LB, Omeruo and Ekong CB; Ndidi DM, Onazi CM, Etebo AM; Iwobi RW + free roamer, Musa RW+LW, Iheanacho ST. Free Roamer means, he'd not be pinned to that RW all game. He'd interchange with Etebo and Musa a lot. I'm 98% sure that this is the team. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:47pm On Jun 03, 2017 |
eterisan: You are making it look as if Omeruo will walk into the starting eleven of FC Porto. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:51pm On Jun 03, 2017 |
Dedebanky85: If the French Manager's strategy relies on long balls to a Tall forward who can control the ball, Mbappe will not easily displace Giroud. However, if the coach will want to play a false nine system, it will be madness starting Giroud ahead of Mbappe. Sometimes, it has to do with a working strategy and tactics. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by eterisan(m): 2:53pm On Jun 03, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe:you are changing the debate please don't... But IMO he would at least be 4th choice cb not playing team b...I asked 3 questions above..can you do us all a favour and attempt to answer so we close the debate? Before it gets stale...I suggest everyone should answer those questions honestly...whoever..omeruo or awaziem..gets majority 2 yes outta the 3 questions wins..its very simple..no point belaboring on the issue.. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:55pm On Jun 03, 2017 |
eterisan: The question is, is Omeruo a better choice for the set-up Rohr wants to use in th next game. Definitely Omeruo is a ball playing defender but I doubt he is a better baller than Awaziem. The reports from Camp will give a better picture. For now, I believe Rohr intends to build a possession-heavy side that requires ball playing defenders and Awaziem has my pick. Especially after spending time with Lopetegui at Porto, a coach I admired his possession-heavy style when he coached Isco, Thiago Alcantara, Morata and Sarabia in the Junior levels of Spain. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:58pm On Jun 03, 2017 |
eterisan: My own is simple, using Porto B is point does not add unless Omeruo can displace him there. You threw in that and I called you on that. Concerning your questions, the reports from Camp will give a better picture. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 2:59pm On Jun 03, 2017 |
eterisan:I have modified my answer but to answer your questions Awaziem on the strength of his club and training is in my opinion better than Omeruo (if I recall even this season he scored own goals twice) far as trust is concerned I'd say yes for Rohr to trust Omeruo more despite the fact he switches off. For the game plan, it depends on what the game plan is and I am not privy to it(all of us na speculate we dey speculate) Never forget that Oboabana and Omeruo were rookie defenders at our Afcon 2013 and they manned the defence admirably well to the extent we won the tournament but where is Oboabana today and is Omeruo at the same level he was at then? Someone is coming right behind him. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by eterisan(m): 3:04pm On Jun 03, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe:TheGoodJoe I m your fan..but I will strongly disagree with you on this...just answer simple question is awaziem better than omeruo? Does rohr trust him more? Do u think awaziem can implement the tactical plan agaisnt sa better than omeruo? As a city fan..why do you think maffeo, adarabioyo,denayer nd angelino will likely not get shots at first team football and become regular starters? don't view things through the tainted lenses of youth over experience.. Of which that is not even the debate becos omeruo is young |
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