erico2k2:

I will bookmark this I will need it nxt year after I bribe EgunMogaji to apeaese Ambode and D Oba

EgunMogaji:


The Oba of Lasgidi is busy rebuilding his palace after it was struck by lightning sent by another certain Oba of Ife via Sango after a slight dismissive wave of hand. This Oba is also rumored to be buddies with Igwe of PHC.

So we fear all una and throway plenty salute, tuales and other greetings. We won't be accepting any further bribes or making threaths of lagoon filing

erico2k2:

Nah lie Oh, I must come with the developers from the east to come help build the palace and leave small thing with the Oba

EgunMogaji:


We don't do anymore, we've learnt our lesson

InvertedHammer:


Better be careful with your challenge.

There is a certain man in my village that can chop 10 people food and do 10 people work.

Using the calculation, he will do the whole work in half a day

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spyder880:


Thank you Sir, plus the unplanned inconveniences, community youths stopping work, local government and state government regulators being unnecessarily troublesome, and if you have a smaller plot where sand cannot be thrown far from the space, it could delay digging further as you have to delay some partitions, cast some bases and then come back to excavate the rest of the foundation after about a week.

KolaShangOne:


This scenario plays out when you're watching a football match and everyone becomes a coach. put them on the pitch and they're tired and can't kick a single ball after 5 minutes

In the discussion, no one has mentioned foundation depth yet. 5 labourers may finish digging the foundation if they're just scraping the surface but for a standard foundation with pad footings etc, 1 labourer will finish only about 6-8m in a day and it is NOT possible for 5 people to finish 2 units in 3 days not to talk of 1 day.

Let's be realistic

EgunMogaji:


Because I've ranted about this three years ago and beaten black and blue by Brabus, Spyder880, KolaShangOne, and AbdulWastecx (to some extent).

Building in Nigeria remains a warfare.

KolaShangOne:


Oga EgunMogaji himself.. Im prostrating o.. Make I stand up?
I never come back since that time. We have been hosting Abdulwastecx in Lagos.. My Amala is in the cooler I guess..

KolaShangOne:


This scenario plays out when you're watching a football match and everyone becomes a coach. put them on the pitch and they're tired and can't kick a single ball after 5 minutes

In the discussion, no one has mentioned foundation depth yet. 5 labourers may finish digging the foundation if they're just scraping the surface but for a standard foundation with pad footings etc, 1 labourer will finish only about 6-8m in a day and it is NOT possible for 5 people to finish 2 units in 3 days not to talk of 1 day.

Let's be realistic

KolaShangOne:


This scenario plays out when you're watching a football match and everyone becomes a coach. put them on the pitch and they're tired and can't kick a single ball after 5 minutes

In the discussion, no one has mentioned foundation depth yet. 5 labourers may finish digging the foundation if they're just scraping the surface but for a standard foundation with pad footings etc, 1 labourer will finish only about 6-8m in a day and it is NOT possible for 5 people to finish 2 units in 3 days not to talk of 1 day.

Let's be realistic

Daboomb:
@Egunmogagi: A single Picture speaks more, than a thousand words!

Foreign Contractors continually re-invest their income/profits in TOOLS OF BUSINESS that make their job easier and faster (That is how the likes of Julius Berger, Taylor Woodrow, Peirse Construction, Guffanti, e.t.c started, until they grew to become global business) thereby creating more wealth for themselves in the future while making the service they render, more affordable to the Client...

But their Nigerian version use theirs to marry more wives or buy more cars and live falshy lives when their business is still at the teething stage, only to keep heaping the pressure on the Client and claiming that the job is so difficult.

Why will it not be difficult , when you want to keep doing it the manual way while failing to plough back profits?

Daboomb:
@Egunmogagi: A single Picture speaks more, than a thousand words!

Foreign Contractors continually re-invest their income/profits in TOOLS OF BUSINESS that make their job easier and faster (That is how the likes of Julius Berger, Taylor Woodrow, Peirse Construction, Guffanti, e.t.c started, until they grew to become global business) thereby creating more wealth for themselves in the future while making the service they render, more affordable to the Client...

But their Nigerian version use theirs to marry more wives or buy more cars and live falshy lives when their business is still at the teething stage, only to keep heaping the pressure on the Client and claiming that the job is so difficult.

Why will it not be difficult , when you want to keep doing it the manual way while failing to plough back profits?

EgunMogaji:


Let me poke at the hornets nest

Oga Spyder880, that your adjustable steel deck support, it's been a while that I've seen it being used Sir.

Is it rusting away in storage or it's still in active duty?

Thank you my Chief.

Daboomb:
@Egunmogagi: A single Picture speaks more, than a thousand words!

Foreign Contractors continually re-invest their income/profits in TOOLS OF BUSINESS that make their job easier and faster (That is how the likes of Julius Berger, Taylor Woodrow, Peirse Construction, Guffanti, e.t.c started, until they grew to become global business) thereby creating more wealth for themselves in the future while making the service they render, more affordable to the Client...

But their Nigerian version use theirs to marry more wives or buy more cars and live falshy lives when their business is still at the teething stage, only to keep heaping the pressure on the Client and claiming that the job is so difficult.

Why will it not be difficult , when you want to keep doing it the manual way while failing to plough back profits?

spyder880:


Very good points you have there Sir, and LOL on marrying more wives in this Buharinomics.

What is the cost and estimated shipping cost of the mechanized excavator as shown on the pictures? Can anyone help with the cost. Let us do a little cost analysis this evening. Let us find out how economical, or otherwise of a Nigerian based builder to own, or hire this machine for his excavations. I always love to explore, and learn.

melanch:
Pls, how much will it cost to build a three bedroom bungalow in lagos excluding the land cost.

segzy14:

Location and let's have the design.

EgunMogaji:

melanch:


Ajah

InvertedHammer:


The landing cost of a cheap one from Harbor freight will be less than $6000 (including clearing). A lot of contractors can afford it but will never buy it. They will rather add more cars to their fleet.

Then and again, if you buy it and put a lot of workers out of work, you may wake up one day and backhoe will be up in flames. Double wahala! So let them dig. There is no rush in Nigeria. African time reigns supreme. You can hurry up the excavation, start construction and oga shows up a month later to state that he/she is out of funds. So why the rush?
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InvertedHammer:


The landing cost of a cheap one from Harbor freight will be less than $6000 (including clearing). A lot of contractors can afford it but will never buy it. They will rather add more cars to their fleet.

Then and again, if you buy it and put a lot of workers out of work, you may wake up one day and backhoe will be up in flames. Double wahala! So let them dig. There is no rush in Nigeria. African time reigns supreme. You can hurry up the excavation, start construction and oga shows up a month later to state that he/she is out of funds. So why the rush?
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EgunMogaji:


The excavating laborers can be retrained on other specialized skills/task that are less backbreaking.

I know on most shows that I watch, builders and workers try to get above ground as fast as possible and followed by sealing the structure to protect them from the elements.

Not all builders can afford this anyways.

kolnel:


I quite very much agree with you

But I still think the system abroad helps a lot

You don't have to put your cash down to buy many stuff once you have good credit standing

WorldAmbassador:
@ kolnel. I agree with you my brother. I think if the government steps in and guarantees loans for contractors and builders, they will purchase these mechanized equipment which will lead to cost savings for the clients and contractors as well. The lack of adequate collateral(and other factors) make it difficult to access some of these loans. The United States and other Western countries have a good credit system that enable the average person to buy things they cannot ordinarily afford. Oga Hajj and Oga Egun pls verify this-I stand to be corrected.

InvertedHammer:


The landing cost of a cheap one from Harbor freight will be less than $6000 (including clearing). A lot of contractors can afford it but will never buy it. They will rather add more cars to their fleet.

Then and again, if you buy it and put a lot of workers out of work, you may wake up one day and backhoe will be up in flames. Double wahala! So let them dig. There is no rush in Nigeria. African time reigns supreme. You can hurry up the excavation, start construction and oga shows up a month later to state that he/she is out of funds. So why the rush?
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