Marcelo290:
He wasn't saying the blacks aren't free to live anywhere they wish, but the fact remains that many of them blacks can't afford the level of living in these posh areas, the vast majority stay in the middle and low class areas, that's the point. It doesn't still mean no blacks live there, but In comparison with the population and fact that it's a developing country is a bad omen I must say.

There is no single estate of the rich in Kenya where foreigners (white, Asians etc) are the single majority. None! All the estates we post here are majorly populated by black Kenyans. They actually have Kenyan tribal names with a few exceptions that began before independence. However, we don't deny we have poor Kenyans who cannot afford such nice places. Kenya is a pretty unequal society, but it does not mean what you're trying to portray. You may have to travel here and see just how many rich and middle class Kenyans we have

Hbuyosh:
Gosh! What have we said here that misrepresent the facts about Tanzania? We have never ever implied that Tanzanians are ugly, unstylish, poor swahili speakers etc. But is it not the truth that Kenya is wealthier and more developed than Tanzania? Are not Kenyans better English speakers than Tanzania? Even with Kenya's "inferior" quality entertainment industry (btw, they compose waaay better music than u pipo), is not the Kenyan entertainment larger than Tz, in fact the third biggest in the ssAfrica. In most aspects Kenya is better than Tanzania, and if u do not believe me, then u can read the following very unbiased comparisons on the same website, Quora... .

Look at esp Mr. Lin's comment, below Khaemba.

https://www.quora.com/How-do-you-compare-Kenya-to-Tanzania

https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-differences-between-working-in-Kenya-and-working-in-Tanzania

Well, maybe u in particular have not said anything disapproving about Tanzanians, but ask your fellow compatriots what they have been saying about Tanzanians. You can see that none of them disputed.

Hbuyosh:



Have u been to Kenya?

I have stayed and worked in Nairobi, Mombasa, Nakuru,kiisi and machakos..I can tell u this, nigeria is far better of kenya in aspect of sports, entertainments, development, technology,roads and bridges ,housing estates, high standard of living,education and many more , the only thing kenya is better off is their tourism sectors ,newly renovated airport and may be nice cbd in some parts and nothing else,I have never seen in my life were street Homeless kids dominates a city like that of Nairobi, go to ngara,park road,thika, Eastleigh, cbd and see how these guys leaves they leave worst than animals, I keep saying this, the only thing that can help kenya is when it takes back "some" of its economy controls from Indians,whites and Somalis, they don't threat u guys with respect in their countries and even your own country so y do u c them as one? . nice parts of Nairobi is so small to be compared with nice parts in Enugu,port, or even kaduna ,even these "nice" parts have very few black in it,Kenyan are too delusional for my liking they tend to claim what they are not, every nice places in Nairobi is dominated by politicians ,whites ,Somalis and Indians and even these places have at least four slums sorounding them..... I have just said the truth and nothing but the truth

Middle Class Housing in Kenya

Jay254:


Mature in deed!! with only two building that have topped up... Why can't you guys be patient for the final work, we started talking about SGR Kenya when the train started running..

Chai! That seems to be untrue .

68816419:

I have stayed and worked in Nairobi, Mombasa, Nakuru,kiisi and machakos..I can tell u this, nigeria is far better of kenya in aspect of sports, entertainments, development, technology,roads and bridges ,housing estates, high standard of living,education and many more , the only thing kenya is better off is their tourism sectors ,newly renovated airport and may be nice cbd in some parts and nothing else,I have never seen in my life were street Homeless kids dominates a city like that of Nairobi, go to ngara,park road,thika, Eastleigh, cbd and see how these guys leaves they leave worst than animals, I keep saying this, the only thing that can help kenya is when it takes back "some" of its economy controls from Indians,whites and Somalis, they don't threat u guys with respect in their countries and even your own country so y do u c them as one? . nice parts of Nairobi is so small to be compared with nice parts in Enugu,port, or even kaduna ,even these "nice" parts have very few black in it,Kenyan are too delusional for my liking they tend to claim what they are not, every nice places in Nairobi is dominated by politicians ,whites ,Somalis and Indians and even these places have at least four slums sorounding them..... I have just said the truth and nothing but the truth

Our airports are also underconstruction.

68816419:

I have stayed and worked in Nairobi, Mombasa, Nakuru,kiisi and machakos..I can tell u this, nigeria is far better of kenya in aspect of sports, entertainments, development, technology,roads and bridges ,housing estates, high standard of living,education and many more , the only thing kenya is better off is their tourism sectors ,newly renovated airport and may be nice cbd in some parts and nothing else,I have never seen in my life were street Homeless kids dominates a city like that of Nairobi, go to ngara,park road,thika, Eastleigh, cbd and see how these guys leaves they leave worst than animals, I keep saying this, the only thing that can help kenya is when it takes back "some" of its economy controls from Indians,whites and Somalis, they don't threat u guys with respect in their countries and even your own country so y do u c them as one? . nice parts of Nairobi is so small to be compared with nice parts in Enugu,port, or even kaduna ,even these "nice" parts have very few black in it,Kenyan are too delusional for my liking they tend to claim what they are not, every nice places in Nairobi is dominated by politicians ,whites ,Somalis and Indians and even these places have at least four slums sorounding them..... I have just said the truth and nothing but the truth

About Somalis dominating Kenya thats just outright nonsense. No one can take you seriously on that. So now tell me exactly the population of white and Indian people in Kenya. They must be so many as to inhabit all the nice places in kenya. Why are you so bitter with kenya? If only you were that bitter with nigerian politicians and monopolists. The highlighted part is just one elongated lie. You dont beat us in sports, unless you think football is the only sport. Do you even have a rugby team? The sports we excel at in kenya we go global, not just African. We even dominate the globe in some sports. The high standard of living is another lie. We cannot argue over that sht when the HDI can tell it all. Entertainment? I shared photos of nightlife in kenya and nigerians couldn't dare to counter. You may have the artists but we have the entertainment and we do it with style. Don't try me on this one, I am a party animal ! And your housing estates are a joke. Very poorly planned and poorly finished. The only person who can tell that is somebody like fanficgirl who lives where housing is top class. We beat you on housing hands down. You do not beat us in any of those things yo listed, you just wish it. Maybe you have wide roads but our transport sector makes yours look like a bad example. Not even a national carrier airline? Nigeria is a very wide joke, with very many jokers in it.

Nowenuse:


Of course. But i have always wondered why Haitians are so dark, i heard that majority of their ancestors were from Ghana & Togo. And truly i think yes Haitians seem to wear their natural hair more. Don't u also think it's because they are poorer?

Wow, didn't know most of their ancestors are from mosern day Ghana and Togo. If they are, it would make sense why they are darker. I think that may be a part of it, but I don't think poverty is a major factor here. I think they were less influenced by outsiders

Jay254:


Do you have to give an excuse even if its lame?. We are borderd with Somalia and South Sudan but we still export to them regardless of the fact that Mombasa is still far from them..

Now that you have put aban of importation, do you know the capacity of Lagos port then and now?(still below mombasa).
Now that the ban is in place do you produce the below items?
1. Motor Vehicles and not assembly plus all the parts
2.Refined oil, (Dagote plant is still underconstruction)
3.Electronics
4.Toothpicks, Utencils,shoes...
5.Among others

Nigeria is still anet importer..

1, We produce some of the parts. Click Nnewi then you wilk understand .

2, of course, product Refined oil

3, of course, we do.

4, in larger scales

5, of course

Hbuyosh:
Gosh! What have we said here that misrepresent the facts about Tanzania? We have never ever implied that Tanzanians are ugly, unstylish, poor swahili speakers etc. But is it not the truth that Kenya is wealthier and more developed than Tanzania? Are not Kenyans better English speakers than Tanzania? Even with Kenya's "inferior" quality entertainment industry (btw, they compose waaay better music than u pipo), is not the Kenyan entertainment larger than Tz, in fact the third biggest in the ssAfrica. In most aspects Kenya is better than Tanzania, and if u do not believe me, then u can read the following very unbiased comparisons on the same website, Quora... .

Look at esp Mr. Lin's comment, below Khaemba.

https://www.quora.com/How-do-you-compare-Kenya-to-Tanzania

https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-differences-between-working-in-Kenya-and-working-in-Tanzania

I went through the threads on quora and yes, i think i got the differences.
Kenyans tend to be more like Nigerians while Tanzanians tend to be more like Ghanaians. This is the reason why most Ghanaians think Nigerians are too rough, disrespectful and abusive

At the end of the day, Nigerians and Kenyans have something in common. LoL. We would have made a good pair if we were neighbouring countries. don't you think?

fanficgirl:

Lol they compare Kenya public sector corruption to almost Nigerian levels .
Kenyans are more aggressive (same with Nigerians).
So Kenya has bigger sprawling slums but is concentrated in towns, while Tanzania's own is spread out but alot of poverty.
Was hoping he would mention Tanzania's beaches
He said Tanzaniana are more social. It's so sad that Swahali is seen as the language of the lower class in Kenya, but its colonialism fault for that.
I wished he mentioned infrastructure.

Don't get fooled with the Kenyans with those internet links. All the comments and comparisons made by Kenyans themselves.

TayserMahiri:


About Somalis dominating Kenya thats just outright nonsense. No one can take you seriously on that. So now tell me exactly the population of white and Indian people in Kenya. They must be so many as to inhabit all the nice places in kenya. Why are you so bitter with kenya? If only you were that bitter with nigerian politicians and monopolists. The highlighted part is just one elongated lie. You dont beat us in sports, unless you think football is the only sport. Do you even have a rugby team? The sports we excel at in kenya we go global, not just African. We even dominate the globe in some sports. The high standard of living is another lie. We cannot argue over that sht when the HDI can tell it all. Entertainment? I shared photos of nightlife in kenya and nigerians couldn't dare to counter. You may have the artists but we have the entertainment and we do it with style. Don't try me on this one, I am a party animal ! And your housing estates are a joke. Very poorly planned and poorly finished. The only person who can tell that is somebody like fanficgirl who lives where housing is top class. We beat you on housing hands down. You do not beat us in any of those things yo listed, you just wish it. Maybe you have wide roads but our transport sector makes yours look like a bad example. Not even a national carrier airline? Nigeria is a very wide joke, with very many jokers in it.

In entertainment, just to Nigeria and see for your self. I just chuckled at the pictures you post became i don't think you understand what entertainment is and whom you are up against.

When i saw youy housing estate i knew you don't have much to compete with.

In sports, we have proved to be better.

forgiveness:


In entertainment, just to Nigeria and see for your self. I just chuckled at the pictures you post became i don't think you understand what entertainment is and whom you are up against.

When i saw youy housing estate i knew you don't have much to compete with.

In sports, we have proved to be better.

I know you Forgiveness. You want to start the endless debates

freshest4live:

Nairobiwalker?

lol, is nairobiwalker a singer?

Nowenuse:


genie, i hope u can now confirm that Tanzanians are far more good looking and stylish than Kenyans on average?

And yes i watch Trace Mziki, how else do you think i'd have known a lot about Tanzanian musics? Prior to that channel on dstv, we never knew if east africans even sang any modern music. East Africans should better thank their stars for Trace and that channel on Dstv.

Well, from what i am seeing i think they are. Buh that doesn't mean Kenyans have nothing to offer. They just seem not so interested in entertainment as such.
I think i once read Victoria Kimani say something about that in an interview how most Kenyans do not value entertainment.

Marcelo290:
You have got a point though, he is a plus for Nigeria anyways. If he wasn't reinvesting here, (which is still going into his pocket anyways)that would have been the problem, but with his continues monopoly, we may wake up one day and discover the country is in one persons palms, which isn't good for a developing economy... his business has spread into every sector of the country.

Yes.
Buh i forsee people like Innoson Chukwuma rising up to Dangote.
There are still a lot of free areas for exploration by the private sector in the Nigerian economy. There is enough space in the sky for all to fly. Many are just too myopic or complacent to make such moves.

68816419:

nigga, the most important thing is having well laid tracks and trains and well functioning stations not to have stations were it could get spoilt within short period of time, kenya may have better train stations but u have worst train cars for a project with high prize tag ($3.8billion ).
now compare the trains
1-2 Kenyan trains ,3-4 Nigerian trains

You have bad attention to detail.

Darcity:

Don't get fooled with the Kenyans with those internet links. All the comments and comparisons made by Kenyans themselves.

Then why not go and paste your comparisons there

Hbuyosh:



Hey guys....Taysermahiri and Mercelo, beautiful and ugly pipo exist everywhere. I hate this discussion on appearance and complexion, depricating each other on the basis of our appearances, ending up using those terms the racist white skins use against us Africans.

It is not okay. Nigerians and Kenyans look alike to me. None can claim to have better looking people than the other, for we are all negroids.

God forbid! We don't look alike in anyway. shuuuu! what nonsense! we are different.

Marcelo290:
Suffering in Kenya is worse off and I can prove it a million times, stop claiming to know it all, did this Kenyans tell you they don't have all these problems? but look around here, do you see any of them talking bout their negative sides? that's one thing you need to learn here, we are focusing on positivity here, you are abroad yet you sound so sure of situations more than we here, I was just giggling when you said most Nigerian universities don't conduct research, keep typing trash to please them, but please, stop sounding so sure of things you don't know. I wonder how many states in Nigeria you have visited to make conclusions in some matters here.

I am having doubts about fanfcgirl.

I am busy lately, if not I would have turn this thread upside down and put the masia people to shame.

iblawi:


Please show me anyone who is fine in any of this pictures

They look like evolved apes to me. Gosh! but seriously, Kenya is synonymous with ugliness. I am just been honest, it is what I have seen, from their footballers, to sprinters, I watched the Olympics, Marathon a lot. Even the Lagos marathon were lot of kenyans participated, and I was like how can some group of people be this ugly?? Only the Ethiopian sprinters appeared good looking to me( from east Africa)

I will be very very sincere. I roll down in laughter when Kenyans talks about beauty.
Thousands of Kenyan long distance runners participated in the Lagos Marathon, and I did not see a single average looking Kenyan. Now tell me, this cannot be a coincidence, so impossible!





This is the first Nigerian to cross the line. I being so unbiased right now.



Now one idi0t somewhere will tell me this is coincidence, utter crap! I refuse to believe, my eyes have seen a lot.

look at them in groups!

TayserMahiri:


Brother, when Nigerians go to the West (and Kenya) they tend to get an open mind. Just try leaving, you will see defending mediocrity tooth and nail is a waste

Who told you Nigerians here haven't been to the West?

TayserMahiri:


Wouldnt be surprising. The roof is such a prank.

Are those mabati/Iron sheets? They'll be rusty in a year with their humid climate!

And they had the nerve to call it "kubwa!"

Nowenuse:


Quote me when a Kenyan wins Miss world, then i can give u a consideration.

Any fool or hungry blogger can write anything anywhere on net.

Evelyn Njambi - No. 5 Miss World 2016. No. 1 in Africa.

Esther Were - No. 5 Miss World 2017. No. 1 in Africa.

Now stop acting gay and become a man.

genieluv:


Yes.
Buh i forsee people like Innoson Chukwuma rising up to Dangote.
There are still a lot of free areas for exploration by the private sector in the Nigerian economy. There is enough space in the sky for all to fly. Many are just too myopic or complacent to make such moves.

Exactly, l don't think Dangote has dominated every top aspect of the economy as some insinuate, though l understand where Marcelo is coming from, it's just that his projects are more intimidating and his ambition is something else. Dangote even bought the best gas firm from Holland, which means when his refinery begins operation, these guys may have no choice but to place their headquarters in Lagos under Dangote, and even build more gas plants across the nation. The guy is not afraid of doing big things, and today he is thinking of becoming the largest exporter of rice in the world by 2021, and has started making plans to that effect and still thinking of buying Arsenal. Even with the restrictions on Zimbabwe, Dangote visited Mugabe and had talks of building a 400 million dollar cement plant there, Lol.

NairobiWalker:


Evelyn Njambi - No. 5 Miss World 2016. No. 1 in Africa.

Esther Were - No. 5 Miss World 2017. No. 1 in Africa.

Now stop acting gay and become a man.

The second lady looks ugly to me!!! Are they Kenyans BTW

Marcelo290:
Suffering in Kenya is worse off and I can prove it a million times, stop claiming to know it all, did this Kenyans tell you they don't have all these problems? but look around here, do you see any of them talking bout their negative sides? that's one thing you need to learn here, we are focusing on positivity here, you are abroad yet you sound so sure of situations more than we here, I was just giggling when you said most Nigerian universities don't conduct research, keep typing trash to please them, but please, stop sounding so sure of things you don't know. I wonder how many states in Nigeria you have visited to make conclusions in some matters here.

The girl matter tire me o. She just dey talk Weytin she no know.

Someone just posted a link here showing site engineers waking up from slums. If you know where site engineers wake up from here in Nigeria you should know the difference is clear. Poverty in kenya is like forever.

TayserMahiri:


I noticed the number of bad stories in Naija blogs have dramatically increased lately with the latest immigration from Naija. Either the Naija guys residing here don't want other Nigerians coming over, or they just want paint a bad picture after being surprised by the level of advancement here.

.....yet they keep coming. Pathetic people.

TayserMahiri:
Middle Class Housing in Kenya

If site engineers wake up from slums then who are the middle class/average kenyans

68816419:

I have stayed and worked in Nairobi, Mombasa, Nakuru,kiisi and machakos..I can tell u this, nigeria is far better of kenya in aspect of sports, entertainments, development, technology,roads and bridges ,housing estates, high standard of living,education and many more , the only thing kenya is better off is their tourism sectors ,newly renovated airport and may be nice cbd in some parts and nothing else,I have never seen in my life were street Homeless kids dominates a city like that of Nairobi, go to ngara,park road,thika, Eastleigh, cbd and see how these guys leaves they leave worst than animals, I keep saying this, the only thing that can help kenya is when it takes back "some" of its economy controls from Indians,whites and Somalis, they don't threat u guys with respect in their countries and even your own country so y do u c them as one? . nice parts of Nairobi is so small to be compared with nice parts in Enugu,port, or even kaduna ,even these "nice" parts have very few black in it,Kenyan are too delusional for my liking they tend to claim what they are not, every nice places in Nairobi is dominated by politicians ,whites ,Somalis and Indians and even these places have at least four slums sorounding them..... I have just said the truth and nothing but the truth

You do know Somali is one of the poorest tribes in Kenya? Know about the North Eastern province of Kenya? You do know Kikuyus are waay wealthier than the Somalis. Almost all the rich Kenyans are either Indians or Kikuyus, fact. Saddens me you have stayed in Kenya for long but you spreading bullshit information. And all those nice estates you will find more Kikuyus, Luhyas, Luos in them than say a Somali guy. And arent Somalis black and Kenyan? You can state Asians in your argument but adding Somalis to the list and say ignoring Kikuyus shows how desperate you are mate. If you have lived in Kenya then you know Kikuyu got more share of the economy than the Indians. Even your landlord in Nairobi is 80% a Kikuyu etc. And yes there are poor Kikuyus and stuff, but generally Kikuyus are richer than all tribes in Kenya and they are black. But you are so desperate to show how Kenya is controlled by whites and Indians. If you know about Kenya, then you know that Kikuyus(black bantus) have more control of the economy than the Indians. And bruh, Somalis are waaaaaaaaaaaay poor if you compare them to Kikuyus. And the whites, what do they control exactly?