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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 1:52pm On Jun 04, 2017 |
erico2k2: The Oba of Lasgidi is busy rebuilding his palace after it was struck by lightning sent by another certain Oba of Ife via Sango after a slight dismissive wave of hand. This Oba is also rumored to be buddies with Igwe of PHC. So we fear all una and throway plenty salute, tuales and other greetings. We won't be accepting any further bribes or making threaths of lagoon filing 6 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 2:58pm On Jun 04, 2017 |
EgunMogaji:Nah lie Oh, I must come with the developers from the east to come help build the palace and leave small thing with the Oba |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 3:29pm On Jun 04, 2017 |
erico2k2: We don't do anymore, we've learnt our lesson |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 3:35pm On Jun 04, 2017 |
EgunMogaji:ok I hear we go come collect all the developments 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 3:59pm On Jun 04, 2017 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 6:17pm On Jun 04, 2017 |
InvertedHammer: I'm guessing it will finish it in 3 hours if I find 2 of him.. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 6:29pm On Jun 04, 2017 |
spyder880: This scenario plays out when you're watching a football match and everyone becomes a coach. put them on the pitch and they're tired and can't kick a single ball after 5 minutes In the discussion, no one has mentioned foundation depth yet. 5 labourers may finish digging the foundation if they're just scraping the surface but for a standard foundation with pad footings etc, 1 labourer will finish only about 6-8m in a day and it is NOT possible for 5 people to finish 2 units in 3 days not to talk of 1 day. Let's be realistic 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 6:32pm On Jun 04, 2017 |
KolaShangOne: Good observations Sir. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 6:44pm On Jun 04, 2017 |
EgunMogaji: Oga EgunMogaji himself.. Im prostrating o.. Make I stand up? I never come back since that time. We have been hosting Abdulwastecx in Lagos.. My Amala is in the cooler I guess.. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 6:49pm On Jun 04, 2017 |
KolaShangOne: Posturing ke? When I no be Hajj This one that you escaped all my offers to have lunch. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 8:36pm On Jun 04, 2017 |
KolaShangOne:. Except the contractor is trying to kill time on the site for reasons be known to him; WHY will any one use 5 people to dig 2 units of an apartment with pad footings? Standard depths are +3ft and greater depending on the structure to be erected and soil type. Every land has a right tool for its work to be carried out with the proper manpower. What is your estimated perimeter that would make you take 5 days to excavate a foundation trench? |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by tevanso(m): 8:37am On Jun 05, 2017 |
like the other professionals have stated,different project with different challenges ,and all these are input into the total cost of a building.Never you nail anybody since u are not in the said site where the building is to be erected .Building construction is beyond what is written or paper .When u get to the site, then the reality.com.Good morning all. 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Daboomb: 8:53am On Jun 05, 2017 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 9:27am On Jun 05, 2017 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Daboomb: 5:43pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
@Egunmogagi: A single Picture speaks more, than a thousand words! Foreign Contractors continually re-invest their income/profits in TOOLS OF BUSINESS that make their job easier and faster (That is how the likes of Julius Berger, Taylor Woodrow, Peirse Construction, Guffanti, e.t.c started, until they grew to become global business) thereby creating more wealth for themselves in the future while making the service they render, more affordable to the Client... But their Nigerian version use theirs to marry more wives or buy more cars and live falshy lives when their business is still at the teething stage, only to keep heaping the pressure on the Client and claiming that the job is so difficult. Why will it not be difficult , when you want to keep doing it the manual way while failing to plough back profits? 3 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 6:11pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
Daboomb: Let me poke at the hornets nest Oga Spyder880, that your adjustable steel deck support, it's been a while that I've seen it being used Sir. Is it rusting away in storage or it's still in active duty? Thank you my Chief. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kolnel: 7:40pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
Daboomb: I quite very much agree with you But I still think the system abroad helps a lot You don't have to put your cash down to buy many stuff once you have good credit standing |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 8:12pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
EgunMogaji: That would have been a very nice way of solving many problems on site but our workers rejected it after using it on two sites. I insisted we use them as it was reducing my wood and carpentry costs, but by the time I lost 2 good carpenters who just stopped picking my calls, I had to halt the use of the metal. Another problem was freight charges for moving those metal contraptions. Vehicles charge so much to travel to some places, plus the incessant police delays as they try to figure out what it is, and how they can delay you till you settle them. 3 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 8:20pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
Daboomb: Very good points you have there Sir, and LOL on marrying more wives in this Buharinomics. What is the cost and estimated shipping cost of the mechanized excavator as shown on the pictures? Can anyone help with the cost. Let us do a little cost analysis this evening. Let us find out how economical, or otherwise of a Nigerian based builder to own, or hire this machine for his excavations. I always love to explore, and learn. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 9:46pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by melanch(m): 10:11pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
Pls, how much will it cost to build a three bedroom bungalow in lagos excluding the land cost. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 10:15pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
spyder880: And Nigerias cheap labor will always win. This we know. 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 10:16pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
melanch: Location and let's have the design. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by melanch(m): 10:21pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
segzy14:Ajah |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by InvertedHammer: 10:22pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
EgunMogaji: The landing cost of a cheap one from Harbor freight will be less than $6000 (including clearing). A lot of contractors can afford it but will never buy it. They will rather add more cars to their fleet. Then and again, if you buy it and put a lot of workers out of work, you may wake up one day and backhoe will be up in flames. Double wahala! So let them dig. There is no rush in Nigeria. African time reigns supreme. You can hurry up the excavation, start construction and oga shows up a month later to state that he/she is out of funds. So why the rush? \ 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 10:23pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 10:55pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
InvertedHammer: One of my friends told me a funny story, he said he hurried a building so fast that the owner stopped the funding, the owners demanded they renegotiate on already agreed amounts, he wanted to pay lower because he thinks he had paid too much before. 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 11:01pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
InvertedHammer: The excavating laborers can be retrained on other specialized skills/task that are less backbreaking. I know on most shows that I watch, builders and workers try to get above ground as fast as possible and followed by sealing the structure to protect them from the elements. Not all builders can afford this anyways. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by InvertedHammer: 11:56pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
EgunMogaji: Retraining is always a possibility. Who will retrain them? The contractor? Yeah right. The path of least resistance is to light up the excavator. Of course the work is tedious, but the workers are already calculating how much they will earn per partition. The fact that not everyone could dig the foundation adds more to their job security. You know we can always use a machine to dig a borehole. Yet some guys show up with veins sticking out like NEPA wires and elect to dig 250 feet with raw muscle. There are many factors in construction in Nigeria. Like Spyder880 pointed out, if you hurry the job, the owner will start having buyer's remorse and demand renegotiation. So what do you do then? \ 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by WorldAmbassador: 5:07am On Jun 06, 2017 |
kolnel:@ kolnel. I agree with you my brother. I think if the government steps in and guarantees loans for contractors and builders, they will purchase these mechanized equipment which will lead to cost savings for the clients and contractors as well. The lack of adequate collateral(and other factors) make it difficult to access some of these loans. The United States and other Western countries have a good credit system that enable the average person to buy things they cannot ordinarily afford. Oga Hajj and Oga Egun pls verify this-I stand to be corrected. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by yak(m): 5:31am On Jun 06, 2017 |
WorldAmbassador: to access loan now, banks will demand for ur grandparents' head. aside that, interest rate of 28+% is simply outrageous, to put it mildly, what kind of business wld b able to pull through? 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 7:58am On Jun 06, 2017 |
InvertedHammer:. So much for contractors. Yea Yea Yeah. Not too many considerations. You acquire an excavator at $6000. Your company resides in Lagos, you get a contract to build a duplex in PHC or Enugu at about +#12M. You have a company car for your team, you transport your excavator and all machines to the site (by road or air is your choice), you get an apartment for your team to settle in an prepare the schedule for the work at hand. What exactly is the running and operating costs of your company per annum and what exactly is your take home after all deductions? You pick a loan today at about 20.5% interest and in less than 3 months time the bank writes to inform you about an increment to 28.2% due to CBN this and that. What would you do? Let's really be realistic here. 3 Likes |
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