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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:19pm On Jun 11, 2017
Diademk07:


Lmao.

So, you mean by advancing the play through the middle, Pogba wouldn't get the ball as a result?

Should Pogba have to drop deep with him before he can get the ball from him?
You are sounding like the rest of us here haven't watched Herrera play, your argument doesn't hold water because Herrera does that and more
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 1:25pm On Jun 11, 2017
patrickmuf:
You are sounding like the rest of us here haven't watched Herrera play, your argument doesn't hold water because Herrera does that and more

Well everyone knows Pogba plays as a no 6 beside Herrera except if such person wants to be dishonest.

Herrera's getting praised for his defensive performance, no?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Funlord2(m): 1:26pm On Jun 11, 2017
Heard moratas agent has called for a 2nd meeting with real Madrid's technical board for tomorrow morning after he and morata chatted with jose on friday night which in turn led him to have a solo meeting with the boards members on friday night? But this time morata will be attending the meeting?

E don be!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:28pm On Jun 11, 2017
Funlord2:


Heard moratas agent has called for a 2nd meeting with real Madrid's technical board for tomorrow morning after he and morata chatted with jose on friday night which in turn led him to have a solo meeting with the boards members on friday night? But this time morata will be attending the meeting?

E don be!
Morata will be a sound addition to the team, he has speed, good ball control, can dribble and his hold up play is very good...Snap him up Ed.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 1:28pm On Jun 11, 2017
Diademk07:


No one is saying Herrera shouldn't pass to Pogba. But it shouldn't be about Pogba dropping deep with him to collect the ball. He should be able to advance the play by making a vertical pass, even if it's just a short one.

Then advise pogba to stay up front or move upfront so that Herrera can make a vertical pass.

In one of your replies you alluded to him making USELESS forward runs only to pass sideways, why cant you think its because there was no movement forward that's why he had to pass sideway to keep possession. It always has to be Herrera who is at fault.

He can't make forward runs, he can't pass forward, he only passes sideways when pogba drops to pick the ball, and he can't dribble. HERRERA MUST BE REALLY USELESS.

Rashford's goal against Chelsea must have been a fluke. grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:31pm On Jun 11, 2017
codedguy1:


Then advise pogba to stay up front or move upfront so that Herrera can make a vertical pass.

In one of your replies you alluded to him making USELESS forward runs only to pass sideways, why cant you think its because there was no movement forward that's why he had to pass sideway to keep possession. It always has to be Herrera who is at fault.

He can't make forward runs, he can't pass forward, he only passes sideways when pogba drops to pick the ball, and he can't dribble. HERRERA MUST BE REALLY USELESS.

Rashford's goal against Chelsea must have been a fluke. grin
Don't mind the dude, Herrera is very good at through passes, why run forward aimlessly when you can spot a pass from a mile out? How many times did Xavi or does Busi goes for the hollywood pass or goes on a lung bursting run? Diakdem is just impossible
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PietroRico(m): 1:38pm On Jun 11, 2017
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 1:54pm On Jun 11, 2017
codedguy1:


Then advise pogba to stay up front or move upfront so that Herrera can make a vertical pass.

In one of your replies you alluded to him making USELESS forward runs only to pass sideways, why cant you think its because there was no movement forward that's why he had to pass sideway to keep possession. It always has to be Herrera who is at fault.

He can't make forward runs, he can't pass forward, he only passes sideways when pogba drops to pick the ball, and he can't dribble. HERRERA MUST BE REALLY USELESS.

Rashford's goal against Chelsea must have been a fluke. grin

Lmao..

Yet Pogba has no problem cutting through the lines.

Rashford's goal was from a pass hit through the entire opposition defence from the midfield. That was after Herrera made an interception. And if you must know, the best time to cut the opposition unaware is after winning a possession because they would have just lost their shape at that moment, it's similar to his pass for Mkhi's goal vs Spurs..

Cutting through the entire opposition lines is quite different from making a weighted pass to a direct team mate in front of you because you have to weigh such pass in order for it to be of accurate length to the intended player or else, you would be passing to the opponent.

Hence, while cutting through the entire opposition defence from the midfield with a forced pass isn't as difficult (you can ask Drinkwater, even Caseimiro has done that a few times), it can't be made on daily basis until you have noticed the opposition has lost their shape whereas simple vertical passes to players in front of you have to be well weighted or else you would embarrass yourself and put your defence in trouble.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 2:00pm On Jun 11, 2017
Double post.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Funlord2(m): 2:04pm On Jun 11, 2017
patrickmuf:
Morata will be a sound addition to the team, he has speed, good ball control, can dribble and his hold up play is very good...Snap him up Ed.


We still need an extra striker or 2! Too many games next season plus a lot of inexperience in our forward players! We also lack a lot of flair in our team! Time to gamble on:

1: Belotti (cf)

2:Lacazette (cf)

3: james rodriguez( lw/rw)

4: dembele the golden child From dortmund (lw/rw)

5: Ryan sessegnon from fulham (LB) [liverpool have given up]

6: veratti (cm)

7: Fabinho (cm)

8: Matuidi (cm)

9: modric(cm)

10: hirving lozano (lw/rw/cf)


One from each position would be fine Some are pure quality, some experienced, some are young, talented and possess the X factor! A good mix either way! And I'm also hoping that Andrea pereira gets a chance to break into the team..he did well at granada on loan even while playing in a poor side!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 2:16pm On Jun 11, 2017
Guys if we sign everyone what about Tuanzebe and FosuMensah? Also what are their long term positions?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 2:16pm On Jun 11, 2017
These dudes never learn?

Stop allowing a mad man drag you to play in the mud with him... He is a mad mad man for God sake! angry angry angry

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 2:19pm On Jun 11, 2017
Funlord2

Be like city are targeting Lorzano too grin

Cant we just give Dortmund good Money and take Dembele? Ramuzaki's useless team will soon come and buy him down . angry
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 2:20pm On Jun 11, 2017
MRTA7:
Guys if we sign everyone what about Tuanzebe and FosuMensah? Also what are their long term positions?

Manchester United hopefully !.... but right now we need specialists!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 2:31pm On Jun 11, 2017
I hope Sanchez leaves EPL, unless of course to Utd grin, not to City FFS!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 2:36pm On Jun 11, 2017
Diademk07:


At the start, Kante was being deployed as a holding midfielder which was never his best position. In the role, he couldn't be at his best nor offer the needed intensity into Chelsea midfield, hence the whole poor play. It's a good thing that Conte realised that soon enough. And the only wingback that added intensity on the wing was Moses.
I see, Alonso watches the ball
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Funlord2(m): 2:36pm On Jun 11, 2017
elrony:
Funlord2

Be like city are targeting Lorzano too grin

Cant we just give Dortmund good Money and take Dembele? Ramuzaki's useless team will soon come and buy him down . angry




Well the president of his present club pachuca has already said they are not negotiating with city for lozano yet but that 3 European clubs have registered an interest...lozano himself has already said if he leaves pachuca he wants to only join united and that we should bid for him!


man city are not our mates so in the event of any tug of war we will definitely back hand them into oblivion if push comes to shove for lozano unless they are willing to be maggard! Our record with chicarito also helps but it seems jose no send the chap! I like dembele and his fee may be high (£35m plus) but that boy is going places...either lozano or dembele will be fine additions as regards to young hard working flair players! Dembele is 20 while lozano is 21! These are the guys who should be on £100k a week and not lingaard and Ashley young!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 2:50pm On Jun 11, 2017
dopeJemi:


morata's deal might be announced this week, read he is flying to Manchester tomorrow

he has removed real Madrid from his twitter acc and followed Herrera, pogba and David Beckham on instagram
Not elated with Morata's coming just hope he performs well. I also think a 4-3-3 or 2 strikers forward formation will favor him than the 1 CF upfront
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 2:55pm On Jun 11, 2017
Can't we buy all we need this transfer window to last us 2 seasons?

grin grin

So we Dont spend next season shocked

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AdisaOwala: 3:12pm On Jun 11, 2017
Diademk07:


[s]Just like Casemiro, Makelele had the luxury of excellent playmakers as well and he's a better DM than Caseimiro who in turns is better than Herrera. So what are we saying?

Without such luxury at Chelsea, we all saw how Chelsea looked in Europe cup even when Makelele was still at his best.

Moreover, I doubt if that Madrid midfield would dominate a well oiled midfield such as the Barca midfield in their prime. That Barca midfield had total control from the back to the attacking third unlike Madrid[/s].

This is what I asked you :

Was Makelele an excellent DM in your opinion??

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:28pm On Jun 11, 2017
Funlord2:



We still need an extra striker or 2! Too many games next season plus a lot of inexperience in our forward players! We also lack a lot of flair in our team! Time to gamble on:

1: Belotti (cf)

2:Lacazette (cf)

3: james rodriguez( lw/rw)

4: dembele the golden child From dortmund (lw/rw)

5: Ryan sessegnon from fulham (LB) [liverpool have given up]

6: veratti (cm)

7: Fabinho (cm)

8: Matuidi (cm)

9: modric(cm)

10: hirving lozano (lw/rw/cf)


One from each position would be fine Some are pure quality, some experienced, some are young, talented and possess the X factor! A good mix either way! And I'm also hoping that Andrea pereira gets a chance to break into the team..he did well at granada on loan even while playing in a poor side!
You are right to be honest, Modric is impossible, Fabinho for RB is okay but as CDM, no...Veratti is very possible .
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Funlord2(m): 3:37pm On Jun 11, 2017
patrickmuf:
You are right to be honest, Modric is impossible, Fabinho for RB is okay but as CDM, no...Veratti is very possible .




Fabinho would most likely play in midfield IF he joins united as he has excelled there since he moved to monaco! His right back days were more prevalent during his time at madrid!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:39pm On Jun 11, 2017
Funlord2:



Victor lindelof to join united on Wednesday for £35m.....jones and smalling can start preparing to _fuck off now!

You don come again. People always sack old players at every new signing even the the new signing has not kicked a ball. At the end we mostly fall back to the old players, just as Ashley Young has remained relevant till date.

Victor wouldn't have been bought if Rojo was fit or there was a guarantee that Bailly, Smalling and Jones will stay fit till January. That's my thought. I think Jose wants the league next season, so none of Jones or Smalling is going. Although we could free Darmian.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:46pm On Jun 11, 2017
CapitalCee:


I don't have any hard feelings, no matter the provocation, except if another club fan comes here to talk their usual hate. Moreover nobody is praising Pogba have you seen me do that? I have been his critic right from day one, Check all my points even today I still did not, I only pointed out to that hollow Chelsea fan, hard fact he needs to know. Praising Kante while denigrating our players (Pogba and Herrera) by opposition fans publiclyshould not be tolerated, as it dampens our players confidence while giving opposition players huge moral. Lampard was a laughing stock when he joined Chelsea, De Gea was an error prone, yet talented youngster when he joined we know what happened after that. In 2003 when Beckham joined Madrid, we almost signed Ronaldinho, suddenly he went to Barcelona and snubbed us, most Arsenal fans in my area then(Chelsea dint have their sugar daddy then) were laughing at me then saying we are screwed, British media was awash with how we were snubbed.what did Ferguson did? He signed a certain skinny Portuguese teenager who was all bags of tricks without end product, we know how it ended up. If Degea, like Ronaldo, like the class of 92 whom our fans backed during their early years, not only Pogba but together Rashford and Martial will all come good and rule Europe.mark my words.

You are welcomed Sir

Ajigbijigbijigbi

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 3:50pm On Jun 11, 2017
AdisaOwala:


This is what I asked you :


Well, my argument was about the 2 playmakers in the form of Modric/Kroos that covered up Casemiro's weakness in the midfield department. So you're the one veering off point.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Funlord2(m): 3:51pm On Jun 11, 2017
elampiro:


You don come again. People always sack old players at every new signing even the the new signing has not kicked a ball. At the end we mostly fall back to the old players, just as Ashley Young has remained relevant till date.

Victor wouldn't have been bought if Rojo was fit or there was a guarantee that Bailly, Smalling and Jones will stay fit till January. That's my thought. I think Jose wants the league next season, so none of Jones or Smalling is going. Although we could free Darmian.



Either one of jones or smalling MUST leave united this summer! You think we have time To be garnishing their wages that we could as well use in tying down our better youth prospects to longer term contracts or even for paying better players to come and play for us than to be wasting it on paying for crutches, tablets, injections and walking sticks for these 2 jokers?


Jose has given them All enough opportunities in his 1st season and as usual they both failed spectacularly! Dharmian even improved towards the end of the season and he has now accepted his fate as back up to Valencia or shaw! Make you dey there...who wants to be a bench warmer in the season before a world cup if not an otondo? Till you see them handing in transfer requests na that time your eye go clear!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 3:53pm On Jun 11, 2017
chrisley024:
I see, Alonso watches the ball
With his slow paced style?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:55pm On Jun 11, 2017
Funlord2:




Either one of jones or smalling MUST leave united this summer! You think we have time To be garnishing their wages that we could as well use in tying down our better youth prospects to longer term contracts or even for paying better players to come and play for us than to be wasting it on paying for crutches, tablets, injections and walking sticks for these 2 jokers?


Jose has given them All enough opportunities in his 1st season and as usual they both failed spectacularly! Dharmian even improved towards the end of the season and he has now accepted his fate as back up to Valencia or shaw! Make you dey there...who wants to be a bench warmer in the season before a world cup if not an otondo? Till you see them handing in transfer requests na that time your eye go clear!

Jones and Smalling will both remain. Mourinho will not take that gamble. Moreover, Jones did very well in the matches he played except that injuries didn’t allow him to start the season or end it. Smalling may have redeemed himself in the Europa final.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:17pm On Jun 11, 2017
Oasis007:


grin

You've relegated Smalling and Jones to squad Players. Best Combo according to Elampiro?!

All the defenders will rumble, and the best will come on top. There will be plenty matches to play and there will be injuries. Even Bailly had his poor time, before Jones and Rojo combo which brought confidence to our defence in November and December, Bailly was making mistakes. Towards the end of the season, those mistakes started surfacing again.

I think those people who are saying sell this, sell that are making a mistake.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PattyCake: 4:17pm On Jun 11, 2017
PietroRico:
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You know that page is just trolling and Morata must have had a laugh so good he had to drop a like...Bale Rodriguez and Morata...Who is that fool that wrote that Shìt drunk...Veryfunny joke.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PietroRico(m): 4:23pm On Jun 11, 2017
elampiro:


All the defenders will rumble, and the best will come on top. There will be plenty matches to play and there will be injuries. Even Bailly had his poor time, before Jones and Rojo combo which brought confidence to our defence in November and December, Bailly was making mistakes. Towards the end of the season, those mistakes started surfacing again.

I think those people who are saying sell this, sell that are making a mistake.
Jones remains, but smalling needs to go.
Let TFM and Tuanzebe take his squad role.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:24pm On Jun 11, 2017
AdisaOwala:


Rojo isn't better than Darmian at LB - Blind is even arguably better than him on that left channel sef.

A fit Luke Shaw remains our best option in that position.

Rojo is also good going forward when compared to the other guys, particularly Darmian. Rojo plays the LB like it is too small for him while others make the position too big, even Luke Shaw of last season.

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