https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhZ7v0Q7UTs





Men! One word........RUGGED!


The chap also has some superb passing skills and good technique on the ball but may suffer from the occasional lack of concentration which is common with inexperienced defenders! The man united Experience will take care of that! This guy and bailly may go on to form a solid core for our foreseeable future! Premiership won't faze this dude!

I anticipate a 1st choice partnership of Bailly and Lindelof next season with Rojo pushing for Lindelof's LCB position and either Smalling or Jones as back up to Bailly with the odd man out leaving the club. Blind and Axel can still stay as 3rd choice LCB and RCB respectively.

afrodoc2:
I anticipate a 1st choice partnership of Bailly and Lindelof next season with Rojo pushing for Lindelof's LCB position and either Smalling or Jones as back up to Bailly with the odd man out leaving the club. Blind and Axel can still stay as 3rd choice LCB and RCB respectively.

Of course, that's what everyone will be looking forward to. Am sure even Bailly is looking forward to the partnership. I hope they hit it off from the first match. It's good that he was signed b4 pre season so that he and Bailly will play a few games and understand themselves better before going in to the Super Cup. All in all, good signing.

This is the kind of defender we call KPOKIRIKPO.................nice signing from Ed Woodward

Nna eh Bailly and Lindelof combo ...........lemme pause first

afrodoc2:
I anticipate a 1st choice partnership of Bailly and Lindelof next season with Rojo pushing for Lindelof's LCB position and either Smalling or Jones as back up to Bailly with the odd man out leaving the club. Blind and Axel can still stay as 3rd choice LCB and RCB respectively.

Maybe Baily - Lindelof and Rojo at LB. The good thing I saw from the above video is that he can pass and comfortable with the ball so his partnership with Bailly means we've 2 CB that can do this well.

chrisley024:
Maybe Baily - Lindelof and Rojo at LB. The good thing I saw from the above video is that he can pass and comfortable with the ball so his partnership with Bailly means we've 2 CB that can do this well.

Yes. I was previously unsure about the links but i have watched a few more clips of him. He has pace, decent size, is comfortable with the ball and can pass out of defence with both feet. I saw similar attributes with Bailly before we signed him and if we have these 2 starting together it might be the beginning of a great partnership.I would offload Smalling who i have said several times is barely a footballer. Rojo as 3rd choice and Jones as 4th choice is not bad.
I don't want Rojo at LB, that handicaps our attack which already has problems scoring goals. We need an attaking LB who will be a consistently creative outlet and give us much needed width when our inverted wingers drift inside. I am thinking of Danny Rose, Kurzawa or Raphael Guerreiro.
The days of CBs deputizing as FBs are gone, let us banish the thought of muscle men like Bailly, Lindelof or Rojo giving us minutes at the FB positions.

This page is so bookmarked

For me, I still think we should push for a deal to bring back Michael Keane, a 3 man defense consisting of Bailly - Keane - Lindelof will be a joy to watch.
Jones and Smalling should be shipped out or sent on loan...Bailly, Lindelof, Keane, Rojo and Blind should do...
Tuanzebe looks more like a 4 than a CB, Jose should use him to shield the defense or buy an experienced CDM so that Herrera and [Pogba can join the attack more frequently.

afrodoc2:


Yes. I was previously unsure about the links but i have watched a few more clips of him. He has pace, decent size, is comfortable with the ball and can pass out of defence with both feet. I saw similar attributes with Bailly before we signed him and if we have these 2 starting together it might be the beginning of a great partnership.I would offload Smalling who i have said several times is barely a footballer. Rojo as 3rd choice and Jones as 4th choice is not bad.
I don't want Rojo at LB, that handicaps our attack which already has problems scoring goals. We need an attaking LB who will be a consistently creative outlet and give us much needed width when our inverted wingers drift inside. I am thinking of Danny Rose, Kurzawa or Raphael Guerreiro.
The days of CBs deputizing as FBs are gone, let us banish the thought of muscle men like Bailly, Lindelof or Rojo giving us minutes at the FB positions.

the thing is, Rojo cannot be in form and be 3rd choice, that would be unfair to him, what happens when the three of them are in excellent form?

I am in support of chrisley's post, it's either we have Rojo at left back or we go with 3-5-2, Rojo's form cannot just be overlooked like that, he was one of our best performers last season and was a beast in that defence

It would be great to have those 3 guys form a 3-man defense partnership so Val and whoever is at left back can bomb forward and support the attack contributing to goals and​ assists

dopeJemi:


the thing is, Rojo cannot be in form and be 3rd choice, that would be unfair to him, what happens when the three of them are in excellent form?

I am in support of chrisley's post, it's either we have Rojo at left back or we go with 3-5-2, Rojo's form cannot just be overlooked like that, he was one of our best performers last season and was a beast in that defence

Is this Rojo united or Man Utd?
If he wants guaranteed shirt he can go to Okomu oil fc.
I don't even understand u. Are u praying that we have only 2 in form CBs at any one time so their feelings won't be hurt?
If you want to win titles you better pray MOST if not ALL your main players are on form.
Without 4 in form strikers the 99 treble would not have been possible.
Rojo should fight for his shirt next season like every other player who does not have 2 heads. If he gets it ahead of Lindelof good, if not good still. That means we have quality coming on from the bench.
What did Rojo do that Ole Gunnar and Teddy and a young Nick Butt not do 2 times over.
Look at Madrid with in form players starting and on the bench. That is how it should be, not changing our entire formation because one decent Rojo is in form.
IF WE WANT TO LEAVE THE MEDIOCRITY OF THE LAST FEW YEARS BEHIND WE NEED IN FORM STARTERS AND SUBSTITUTES.

I agree with Afrodoc2. no offence to Rojo, but it won't be bad having a strong bench that can come up and do a good job when called upon. if all three Cbs are on form and only two can be accommodated at a time, there's no problem having one of them on the bench who can come on and do the job. or better still, they all share minutes(rotation). but we all know JM doesn't work that way.


We need a strong starting 11 as well as a strong bench.

dopeJemi:


the thing is, Rojo cannot be in form and be 3rd choice, that would be unfair to him, what happens when the three of them are in excellent form?

I am in support of chrisley's post, it's either we have Rojo at left back or we go with 3-5-2, Rojo's form cannot just be overlooked like that, he was one of our best performers last season and was a beast in that defence

I could not reply you yesterday due to some other issues but you need to stop speculating and face facts! So you think a guy that loses 6 months of football would still come back and perform the way he did last season? Look Rojo tried but the essence of being at a club like man united is competition!


Mourinho always likes having 2 specialist players competing for every spot in his teams and he is not really one for 3 at the back things! By the time Rojo gets back in 2018, lindelhof may have cemented his spot next to bailly..it will be up to Rojo to prove in training that he deserves to bench one of either him or bailly! Abeg all these experimenting with positions needs to end! We have LB's and CB's so all man should fight for their right to party on the pitch and in their best positions!

Rojo is too limited attack wise to even make a Good enough LB

Nihilist:


If you like insult me, I have said my own.

Baba weyrey niwo boboyi.

chrisley024:
Maybe Baily - Lindelof and Rojo at LB. The good thing I saw from the above video is that he can pass and comfortable with the ball so his partnership with Bailly means we've 2 CB that can do this well.

Rojo isn't better than Darmian at LB - Blind is even arguably better than him on that left channel sef.

A fit Luke Shaw remains our best option in that position.

AdisaOwala:


Rojo isn't better than Darmian at LB - Blind is even arguably better than him on that left channel sef.

A fit Luke Shaw remains our best option in that position.

Actually I was looking at the probable Jose's setup considering Shaw has shown he can't stay fit unless we're getting another attacking LB of which I'll be glad to hear. For me anyone in top form or the best partnership plays.

I think Rojo is better than Darmian at the LB. He's more comfortable with the ball, passes better and has a better crossing. Darmian is even afraid to have the ball or move forward.

afrodoc2:


Is this Rojo united or Man Utd?
If he wants guaranteed shirt he can go to Okomu oil fc.
I don't even understand u. Are u praying that we have only 2 in form CBs at any one time so their feelings won't be hurt?
If you want to win titles you better pray MOST if not ALL your main players are on form.
Without 4 in form strikers the 99 treble would not have been possible.
Rojo should fight for his shirt next season like every other player who does not have 2 heads. If he gets it ahead of Lindelof good, if not good still. That means we have quality coming on from the bench.
What did Rojo do that Ole Gunnar and Teddy and a young Nick Butt not do 2 times over.
Look at Madrid with in form players starting and on the bench. That is how it should be, not changing our entire formation because one decent Rojo is in form.
IF WE WANT TO LEAVE THE MEDIOCRITY OF THE LAST FEW YEARS BEHIND WE NEED IN FORM STARTERS AND SUBSTITUTES.

I honestly don't think you understood my post

I would like to think that man management is essential to a club's success and I hope we won't have to sing "the one that got away" tune 2years from now

dopeJemi:


I honestly don't think you understood my post

I would like to think that man management is essential to a club's success and I hope we won't have to sing "the one that got away" tune 2years from now

We all understood it.
If Rojo is in excellent form but Bailly and Lindelof are playing even better I don't know what the problem is.
The competition would only make them better and keep up the form.
There is no problem having an excellent defender on the bench especially in a big club like United.
Unlike you I hope all our players are on excellent form next season so much so that team selection becomes a headache for Jose

From watching lindelhof sef you can tell he is a better defender than rojo and they are both supposed to be similar type of ruggedy babas! But lindelhof offfers a lot more, is younger, definitely stronger and is just plain crazy!


I even have some more videos but let me wait till Wednesday! Jose has scouted this boy since last summer and the amount of private jet trips our scouts have made to portugal on his behalf has left me with no other option than to say well done sirs! Another zlatan loading! Book mark away!

Funlord2:




I could not reply you yesterday due to some other issues but you need to stop speculating and face facts! So you think a guy that loses 6 months of football would still come back and perform the way he did last season? Look Rojo tried but the essence of being at a club like man united is competition!


Mourinho always likes having 2 specialist players competing for every spot in his teams and he is not really one for 3 at the back things! By the time Rojo gets back in 2018, lindelhof may have cemented his spot next to bailly..it will be up to Rojo to prove in training that he deserves to bench one of either him or bailly! Abeg all these experimenting with positions needs to end! We have LB's and CB's so all man should fight for their right to party on the pitch and in their best positions!

Rojo is too limited attack wise to even make a Good enough LB

i think Rojo played LB for Argentina in the last world cup and he did well but that is not the point

"lindelof may have cemented his spot next to Bailly" let's assume this is the case..

"it will be up to Rojo to prove himself in training that he deserves to bench one of them" let's assume he proves himself

Bailly and lindelof in superb form, Rojo too in superb form, these are assumptions, so how does he bench one of the two? when all three are in superb form

now this becomes a dilemma for the coach and this is where his man management skill will come into play, no player in superb form will be happy to sit on the bench, not forgetting the fact that Rojo is not getting any younger, I want to believe there was a time last season when we looked at the line up and saw Rojo's name and became relaxed and confident, but then again, that is not the point


now my question is, what happens to Rojo when Bailly and lindelof becomes indispensable?

I don't want another Keane and pogba situation on our hands, that is all I'm saying, if mourinho can make them all happy, no wahala

Funlord2:


From watching lindelhof sef you can tell he is a better defender than rojo and they are both supposed to be similar type of ruggedy babas! But lindelhof offfers a lot more, is younger, definitely stronger and is just plain crazy!


I even have some more videos but let me wait till Wednesday! Jose has scouted this boy since last summer and the amount of private jet trips our scouts have made to portugal on his behalf has left me with no other option than to say well done sirs! Another zlatan loading! Book mark away!

Calm down bro. August is not far and all men will be tested

afrodoc2:


Unlike you I hope all our players are on excellent form next season so much so that team selection becomes a headache for Jose

this is why I thought you didn't understand my post

I didn't say all our players shouldn't be in excellent form, i said, assuming all three are in excellent form, what happens to Rojo? the coach's ability to make all three happy will be crucial at this stage, hence the 3-5-2 I suggested which doesn't seem like a bad formation to try out considering the fact that we are still after belotti

that has been my point

dopeJemi:


i think Rojo played LB for Argentina in the last world cup and he did well but that is not the point

"lindelof may have cemented his spot next to Bailly" let's assume this is the case..

"it will be up to Rojo to prove himself in training that he deserves to bench one of them" let's assume he proves himself

Bailly and lindelof in superb form, Rojo too in superb form, these are assumptions, so how does he bench one of the two? when all three are in superb form

now this becomes a dilemma for the coach and this is where his man management skill will come into play, no player in superb form will be happy to sit on the bench, not forgetting the fact that Rojo is not getting any younger, I want to believe there was a time last season when we looked at the line up and saw Rojo's name and became relaxed and confident, but then again, that is not the point


now my question is, what happens to Rojo when Bailly and lindelof becomes indispensable?

I don't want another Keane and pogba situation on our hands, that is all I'm saying, if mourinho can make them all happy, no wahala

Mourinho that gives no _fucks? He has man managed squads with more talent and egos than ours at the moment (inter, real madrid comes to mind) to relative success in the past...and led this disjointed team to the champions league! He has the experience! Sit back and enjoy the show! No shaking

dopeJemi:


this is why I thought you didn't understand my post

I didn't say all our players shouldn't be in excellent form, i said, assuming all three are in excellent form, what happens to Rojo? the coach's ability to make all three happy will be crucial at this stage, hence the 3-5-2 I suggested which doesn't seem like a bad formation to try out considering the fact that we are still after belotti

that has been my point

If all 3 are in excellent form we stick 1 of them on the bench. That is how it has always been.
Whatever formation benefits the ENTIRE TEAM is what should be used, not switching formation to make the 3rd choice CB happy.
Whether it is 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1, 3-4-3, or 3-5-2 what matters is that it works for the entire team not to keep 1 player happy.

Funlord2:




Mourinho that gives no _fucks? He has man managed squads with more talent and egos than ours at the moment (inter, real madrid comes to mind) to relative success in the past...and led this disjointed team to the champions league! He has the experience! Sit back and enjoy the show! No shaking

Okay oh

We are going into a league season, with some cups by the way.. Not a 2 months tournament.
There will be more than enough games to go around, especially in that cb position.

After we bin smalling though

afrodoc2:


If all 3 are in excellent form we stick 1 of them on the bench. That is how it has always been.
Whatever formation benefits the ENTIRE TEAM is what should be used, not switching formation to make the 3rd choice CB happy.
Whether it is 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1, 3-4-3, or 3-5-2 what matters is that it works for the entire team not to keep 1 player happy.

I wouldn't like to use the term "to make the 3rd choice CB happy" I'd rather say "to maximum the team's strength" which I like to believe is the same as "whatever formation benefits the entire team" like you said

we good doc

dopeJemi:


I wouldn't like to use the term "to make the 3rd choice CB happy" I'd rather say "to maximum the team's strength" which I like to believe is the same as "whatever formation benefits the entire team" like you said

we good doc

No yawa. The good thing is we all are expecting excellent performances from the defence. Lets hope Rojo comes back 100 %.
Next thing for Jose to fix is the midfield. I also noted you mentioned 3-5-2, i agree that is something JM should consider for some specific situations

patrickmuf:
For me, I still think we should push for a deal to bring back Michael Keane, a 3 man defense consisting of Bailly - Keane - Lindelof will be a joy to watch.
Jones and Smalling should be shipped out or sent on loan...Bailly, Lindelof, Keane, Rojo and Blind should do...
Tuanzebe looks more like a 4 than a CB, Jose should use him to shield the defense or buy an experienced CDM so that Herrera and [Pogba can join the attack more frequently.

Tuanzebe is a defender, not a CDM.

If we could criticise Fellaini of lacking the technical ability to contribute in the control of the midfield, I don't see why Tuazebe should be any better. Some people often talk about how Caseimiro helped to complete Madrid's midfield but he's got two pass masters in the likes of Kroos and Modric in front of him. In fact, Madrid would even look much more better if they could get a more technical CDM who can help to build up the play from the back without the need of Kroos constantly dropping too deep to get on the ball. That was exactly what Bastian offered Kroos at the worldcup and he looked far better than he ever did at Madrid although he has been good for Madrid but not on the worldclass level he looked at the worldcup.

On the other hand, we have no playmaker such as Kroos and Modric who can dictate the play and help us to control the midfield yet we want to add a typical defender as our CDM? What are we becoming?

Personally, I would love to see Tuanzebe grow as the centre back he is because he's done nothing to impress me as a CDM. Yes, he's got quick feet but he has got neither the passing range, ability to switch play nor the ability to pass through the line. He also offer little in our build-up play just like Herrera.

That's why I would prefer that Donny Van de Beek lad. He's the only one I can think of, apart from Motta and De rossi but the latter are ageing already. Another is Oriol Romeu, he doesn't have the passing range and he is not playmaker like those aforementioned 3 players (Beek, Motta, De Rossi) but he's got the composure in the midfield and the ability to pass through the lines. As for Fabinho, I think the RB position is still likely his best position because he isn't composed enough to play in the midfield. I saw him against Juve and City and he didn't impress me as a holding midfielder but he's got the creativity and marauding runs to operate as a fullback.

There's also Badelj but the only weakness is his defensive play which is still a major suspect in his game.

afrodoc2:


No yawa. The good thing is we all are expecting excellent performances from the defence. Lets hope Rojo comes back 100 %.
Next thing for Jose to fix is the midfield. I also noted you mentioned 3-5-2, i agree that is something JM should consider for some specific situations

recruiting players for that midfield position is going to be a major problem in the transfer window, there are not many available good midfielders out there, we are being linked with fabinho, I haven't watched really watched him play so I don't know if he is what we need in our midfield

I wanted nainggolan but I just realised he is not a DM, I always thought someone of his nature and style plays as a DM, he has that look

read mourinho is after matic, I pray they remain rumours

who we go kan sign?

Diademk07:


little in our build-up play just like Herrera.

k.

this is a big lie from the pit of hell

At least the chap knows what it means to win things...and all this for £30.7m? This is looking like another bargain!


http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/10911555/manchester-united-agree-fee-with-benfica-for-victor-lindelof